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marching on moscow. and a major supreme court decision today. the high court just rejected a legal theory backed by donald trump that would have radically changed u.s. elections. we're following these major developing stories and many more all coming in right here to cnn "news central." cnn has exclusively obtained and audio recording of donald trump post-presidency discussing classified materials that were in his possession. the tape is a crucial piece of the justice department's case against trump and we know this because it's quoted in the federal indictment, but now we're hearing parts of that 2021 conversation that were not mentioned by prosecutors. cnn's paula reid has been tracking this story for us. paula, what does trump say in this meeting that we should point out he knew was being recorded? >> reporter: that's one of the
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most remarkable aspects of this tape, boris, is the fact that the former president knew he was being recorded, he was being recorded by his own aides at his request, and yet here he can be heard casually discussing retaining some of the nation's secrets even after he left the white house. here he appears to be trying to argue his case before two autobiographers working on a book about mark meadows and two of his own staffers at one point saying, look at this, look at this, these are the papers, as he tries to move a point about general mark milley and who if anyone wanted to attack iran. it shows that he is preoccupied with his image, with convincing these autobiographers of his side of the case, while appearing allegedly to brand i wish some of the nation's secrets. let's listen to him in his own words. >> these are bad, sick people. >> that was your coup, you know? against you. >> well, it started right at the beginning.
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>> right when milley is talking about, oh, we're going to try -- no, they were trying to do that before you even were sworn in. that's right. trying to overthrow your election. >> well, with milley -- let me see that. i will show you an example. he said that i wanted to attack iran. isn't it amazing, i have a big pile of papers this thing just came up. look. this was him. they presented me this, this is off the record, but they presented me this. this was him. this was the defense department and him. >> wow. >> we looked at some. this was him. this wasn't done by me. this was him. all sorts of stuff. pages long. wait a minute. let's see here. >> yeah. >> i just -- isn't that amazing? this totally wins my case, you know. >> uh-huh. >> except it is like highly confi confidential. >> yeah. >> this is secret information. but look -- look at this.
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>> following his indictment the former president told fox he's breath bear that he didn't actually have that documents, it was a pile of papers, magazine clippings but there for the first time you can hear him saying these are the papers, that's a quote not included in the indictment or our previous reporting and it undercuts this argument that what he's shuffling through is a bunch of random documents. ultimately it is expected to be up to a jury to decide what exactly they're hearing here. >> really stunning audio. paula reid, thank you so much. jim? all right. joining me now to talk more about this cnn anchor of "inside politics," dana bash. let's set aside the legal consequences of this given what the president said on tape. speak just politically for a moment here because the president speaking at a minimum dismissively about highly sensitive documents, which he describes as such and sort of makes jokes about it as his staff laughs along with him
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here. you've seen some republicans who have said this is a problem by and large brushed it off. does this move any of them further in the direction of saying, here was a president, former president, who just didn't care about the consequences of this? >> you know, on "inside politics" today i interviewed tim berchett, a republican congressman from tennessee who last week, i believe, told our colleague manu raju that if donald trump is convicted of what he was indicted for then he should not be president again. today when we played some of this audio that you just played just a minute ago, his answer was that it's still the same on being convicted, but when listening to him, it's trump being trump. oh, this is typical donald trump. and it was very instructive to me because that's what he's hearing from his constituents in a conservative district in tennessee, which is not unlike the kind of constituents and voters who are the most important to the republican
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presidential nominating process in iowa, in new hampshire and beyond. so that's a long way of saying in the short term it doesn't look like it's moving the needle. the long term when it comes to a general election, if he becomes the nominee, that's a completely different question. >> we saw asa hutchinson here last week, one who has been critical of the former president saying that similarly he often hears from voters that they see trump as being picked on by these cases. >> exactly. >> that's primary voters, not independent voters in a general election, could be a different result there. when you speak to trump campaign officials, et cetera, do they express any acknowledgment of the irony that here is someone who ran for president in 2016 criticizing hillary clinton's handling of classified information and now seems to have had no -- at least no greater concern, right, about the sensitivity of these things, or is that long forgotten? >> i think you must have missed the funeral because irony is dead. >> see that every day. >> i'm making a joke, but it's
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not. that is part of a larger discussion about our kind of body politic right now, that, yes, i mean, people who are fair-minded, sort of objective viewers or consumers of this information will see it like that. i mean, of course. actually, what's interesting about -- one of the many things that's interesting about hearing the audio that when we saw the transcript we didn't see -- in the indictment they took the hillary clinton part out of it. so the fact that he's even -- there's even an acknowledgment -- i think it was one of the staffers who mentioned her name first -- in this discussion i think answers to your question which is, no, they don't see the irony. >> just before we go, no time to play the audio but you're aware of kevin mccarthy's interview where he granted -- he said i'm not quite -- i'm paraphrasing here, not quite so sure donald trump is necessarily the strongest gop nominee in 2024. were you surprised to hear that from him? >> i was, and apparently so were
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a lot of trump supporters. our colleague kristen holmes is getting great reporting, said her phone is ringing off the hook by people saying they are upset about it. it would not surprise me, jim, to see or hear some clarification from the speaker in the near future. >> a clarification, also known in washington as a walk back, but we will see what he says. i think you have anniversary tomorrow, work anniversary, is that right? >> i might. >> it's a big one. >> just a few years. >> just a couple years. we all love big ones. dana bash, legend at cnn. >> thank you. >> thanks so much. >> indeed she is. today vladimir putin praised his russian forces for stopping a, quote, civil war when a mercenary group led by yevgeny prigozhin threatened to march on moscow this weekend. russia also announced charges would be dropped against the wagner fighters. belarus's president helping to negotiate a deal to end this rebellion. today he detailed those talks at length. alexander lukashenko saying at one point putin told him prig
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would not respond to his, putin's calls. lukashenko also revealed that he got prig on the phone and that -- told prigozhin that he would be crushed like a bug if he continued on to moscow. >> translator: the most dangerous thing as i understand it is not what the situation was but how it would develop and its consequences. this was the most dangerous thing. i also realized there was a harsh decision taken to destroy. i suggested putin not to hurry. let's talk with prigozhin, with his commanders. >> we have cnn chief international security correspondent nick paton walsh live for us in kyiv, ukraine. i do want to talk to you, nick, of course, about this russian revolt but before we do that there are some breaking details about a russian strike on a civilian area in eastern
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ukraine. what do you know at this point? >> reporter: well, that drama around moscow of the civilian toll that putin's unprovoked invasion of ukraine continues to enforce. hit by one, possibly two missile strikes. the images you are seeing right now are of a pizza restaurant in the city center, it has a clothing and jewelry shop near it, too. it appears to have been hit by this strike. there may be casualties, injured, possibly dead, possibly as well. you're seeing there local people clearing through the rubble, a search and rescue operation there frantically under way. a local official posting on facebook simply the word tragedy. we don't know if this was specifically targeted, it is popular with locales, can be busy at earlier times during the day, off duty military there often as well. russia notoriously clumsy and bad with targeting of heavy weaponry but also, too,
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occasionally finding its target. we will learn about that more in the hours ahead. essentially the possibility of a loss of life here and, again, many thinking this is russia losing nearby in bakhmut to ukrainian advances and lashing out on civilian areas nearby. a common tactic but one that appears to have taken possibly innocent lives or caused injury in the last hours or so. >> terrible pictures of that restaurant coming into us here. talking about this revolt led by yevgeny prigozhin, we've heard from lukashenko that prigozhin is in belarus, but do we have any specifics on that, nick? >> reporter: no we don't. we don't even have yevgeny prigozhin saying he's there himself, although he does appear in his last statement to be going along with the narrative we're hearing from lukashenko and from the kremlin as well. we've had the split screen bizarreness today, vladimir putin in moscow standing in front of troops, land troops who frankly did very little to stop
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the wagner advance on saturday, but telling those troops, thank you, your duty and courage has saved russia and saved russia from civil war indeed. and then going on to talk about how, in fact, the wagner group had been given over a billion dollars over the past year by the russian state, by putin himself. a bizarre self-own of the role of prigozhin over the past year by putin casting a very different narrative from what we've heard over the past days, some that some will even grasp. belarusian president lukashenko goes on to talk about the conversation he had with prigozhin where he essentially in what he referred to as an expletive laden situation got him to turn the tanks around and come to belarus. he is a thorn in lukashenko' side, prigozhin, and that threat possibly moves slightly away from putin, not gone away. the charges have been dropped against him but a bizarre series of explanations we're getting
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and a weekend that has shaken putin like never before. >> you can see some of it, too, in the expression on his face as he's speaking about. nick, thank you so much for that report for us in kyiv. i want to turn to nic robertson, he is in london, he is our cnn international diplomatic editor. part of this agreement here was that the wagner fighters were supposed to turn over their equipment to russia today. what are you learning about what is happening? >> reporter: yeah, this is what the russians have said, they're offering, of course, an amnesty to all those prigozhin fighters who were on the march towards moscow. they're saying that there will be no charges against them, but they're under instructions to dump their weapons and turn them into russian military bases. we don't have any images from the russian authorities who you would expect to want to put -- make some of that public as they're trying to show that they're doing a good job here. we also know from the belarusian
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president, lukashenko, that if the wagner mercenaries want to go there to his country to belarus they can do that, but they can't take their weapons with them. indeed the legal system inside belarus wouldn't allow them to have weapons in the same way that they can inside of russia. interestingly the belarusian president also said that he -- well, he actually described prigozhin as some sort of hero. he said those wagner mercenaries have a lot of experience in the front lines, there's something that they could teach the belarusian military, said he wouldn't mind having a unit of the wagner mercenaries in his military. it is all very bizarre he said he's got a guarantee from prigozhin if he comes he and any of his fighters won't kill anyone in belarus. he said if they do that then all bets are off. >> it is interesting times as we see and wait for him to pop up if this narrative is true. nic, thank you for the report from london. still ahead, the supreme
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a major decision today in the supreme court with national implications for elections. justices issued a mris ring defeat to a republican-led effort that would have radically changed how elections are governed in the states. in the 6-3 ruling they shot down a controversial legal theory that said the judicial branch should have no oversight in reviews of election rules. this is known as the independent state legislature theory. it was notably a theory championed by former president donald trump and his supporters as they tried to overturn the 2020 election results. here with us now ariane de vogue. the implications for this beyond an effort in 2020 to overturn an
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election for just how election are governed by the states is enormous. >> the supporters here of president trump and others they made this broad -- [ inaudible ] -- this was extremely broad, it was considered sort of this dormant legal theory that was brought back up and critics said, look, if this goes into effect it will upend elections as we know it because it could lead to rogue state legislatures moving in, right, and different rules between federal and state elections. so then what you had is chief justice john roberts today saying, no, and he was joined by his conservative colleagues cavanaugh and barrett and the liberals and ty totally jected a broad reading of this. this is what he said, he said state courts retained the authority to apply state constitutional restraints when
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legislatures act under the power conferred by them under the elections clause. that was a sigh of relief today. >> under this it would have been possible for the state legislature to get a majorities of one party and basically write the rules so much in your favor, which we've seen attempts to do, you do say that there was a caveat contained in this decision. describe what that is. >> even roberts said, he said, look, state courts don't have free rein here. federal courts can oversee it if they want to. if they want to step in. so that would add an extra layer to litigation. you think of elections, you go to a state court someone would take it to federal court. but the most important thing that this court did and decided to do this now is to try to get rid of chaos, the thought of chaos, coming in with these state legislatures and that's what they did in this opinion today 6-3. >> another election coming up and someone running in that election who tried to use this to his advantage in 2020. ariane de vogue, thanks so much. boris?
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2024 republican presidential candidate and miami mayor francis suarez found himself in an awkward position during a radio interview on the hugh hewitt show. he was asked a foreign policy question about china but he appeared completely unaware of the issue. listen to how it went down. >> will you be talking about the uyghurs in your campaign? >> the what? >> the uyghurs? >> what's a uyghur? you gave me homerk, hugh, i will look at -- what was it, what did you call it a weeble? >> the uyghurs, you really need to talk about the uyghurs, mayor. >> i will search uyghurs. i'm a good learner, i'm a fast learner. >> cnn chief national affairs correspondent jeff zeleny is here with us, also notably a fast learner. jeff, not a good look for mayor suarez, but he has issued a statement. >> he issued a statement claiming he didn't quite hear
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hugh hewitt on the radio this morning but he did go on to say he is well aware of the suffering of the uyghurs in china. of course, this is a persecuted minority group in china which is widely discussed, it's a hallmark of the u.s. foreign policy, china of course a central part of any presidential election. when you're running for president you're running to be the commander in chief, it's a job application and today he failed, no doubt. he is not the first and only candidate to make missteps like this. it's why running for president as a mayor, as opposed from federal office, can be more difficult. look, it is a one off, but it's hard to imagine that he will be able to sort of move beyond this in the sense of being a serious candidate. if he makes the debate stage of course things like this obviously will come up, but he said weeble. of course, uyghur is the term. >> on to two other republican candidates, perhaps the top two in the field, donald trump and
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ron desantis, both holding dueling campaign events today in new hampshire. >> they were, that of course also created some controversy. the former president was speaking to the federated women's republican organization of new hampshire, governor desantis scheduled something at the same time. so this women's group said that, look, the governor should not be essentially trying to compete with attention for this, beyond all of that, i think the substance of what the governor said was actually quite interesting. he went after the former president approximate draining the swamp. he said he will not -- the swamp he said was not drained. he said he will break the swamp. so that was sort of interesting as well. he also wag standing behind a backdrop that says "restore sanity." that is a new phrase that he -- a new billboard, if you will, or so for the desantis campaign, but for trump's part he did not specifically go after desantis, but, look, they are head to head in competition, but trump certainly has a stronger showing in new hampshire now. >> is it likely that they're
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going to cross paths at all? >> it's not. they will speak around each other, sort of to each other but they are not expected to cross paths. >> surprising that desantis will take on that women's group which is venerated in new hampshire especially as he is so far back in the holes. i do want to ask you about a surprise visitor at the white house today, too. >> interesting lunch today at the white house. former president barack obama who used to have weekly lunches with his former president. i'm told by advisers to both men it is a chance for them to catch up, also a chance to sort of boost enthusiasm for the biden reelection bid. i'm told that obama is likely to do some fund raising help later this week on the digital side, sending out a message. my guess is we will see a picture or perhaps a video from this lunch, but this is all coming as the end of the second quarter fundraising period ends this week. but pretty unusual, doesn't happen all the that often that the president has the former president open who used to have his job over for lunch at the white house. no word on what was served just yet, but we will find that out.
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president vladimir putin is praising his forces for stopping a, quote, civil war. ukraine is taking it all in. it's foreign minister speaking exclusively to cnn's erin burnett. here is part of their conversation. >> but for us it has always been pretty obvious that it's just a matter of time when someone in russia will dare to challenge putin because we saw how his power and authority is shrinking and how russia is entering very difficult turbulence. so prigozhin is just the first one who dared, but i have no doubts that others will follow one way or another. >> and joining us now is democratic congressman seth moulton, he is a member of the armed services committee. he's also a marine veteran who served four tours in iraq. congressman, thank you so much for being with us this
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afternoon. you heard those comments from minister kuleba talking about another rebellion perhaps coming for putin. do you think that there is merit to that or do you think that's just wishful thinking? >> no, i think that's absolutely what's on the horizon. i mean, look, we've seen as secretary blinken said the cracks in putin's armor here and he's really only found a temporary solution in my mind for prigozhin and his 25,000-man army. i mean, it's great to give them a vacation in belarus which is essentially what they're getting, but these are 25,000 viciously trained men who know only fighting and they're going to grow tired of that after a while. they're going to want to do something next. don't think there aren't other people, the kind of people who support prigozhin across russia, who also want to see putin go. so, you know, the beauty of democracy is that we have under our constitution is if you don't like the leadership, you get to challenge that leadership every
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four years. they don't have that system in russia and so this kind of revolt is probably how putin's reign will end. >> so prigozhin is out at least out of the position he was in before. he's not completely out of the picture for sure here. wagner handing over its weapons to russia. putin does seem to be consolidating his power or at least trying to over factions in the military. what does all of this mean for his grip on power politically? can he manage to hold on? >> look, he's held on for a long time so we should never underestimate vladimir putin, but the reality is that a lot of people in russia are frustrated with him, they're frustrated with this war. that's why prigozhin was able to get halfway to moscow in the first place. i mean, this isn't just prigozhin. there are a lot of russians who see the casualty numbers, who recognize that they have no voice in their government, no voice in their democracy.
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they can't even complain out loud if they don't like the fact that their sons are being killed in this illegal war. so this is the beginning of the end for putin, we just don't know how long it will take to actually get to the end. >> how do you think the u.s. and its western allies should be looking to capitalize on this moment? >> well, on the one hand we need to continue supporting ukraine. ukraine is mounting a counteroffensive that we've helped them train and prepare for. on the other side russia just lost 25,000 front line troops. they're clearly facing some instability. the troops who are remaining on the lines for russia in ukraine now realize that if there is a revolt you might get a vacation in belarus, it's not the worst ending. all of these things are bad for russia as ukraine is counting its counteroffensive and we should make sure that ukraine capitalizes on that counteroffensive. but the other thing we have to be doing, brianna, is not just
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capitalizing on the situation, but recognizing the dangerousness of this situation. that nuclear-armed russia is facing significant instability. that's not good for world peace. we've got to make sure we have a close eye on what's going on with russia because if there is a transition in leadership, it might very well be a bloody one and we have to make sure that nothing gets out of hand. >> just moments ago we heard from the state department spokesperson, matthew miller, saying that the u.s. is going to announce, quote, actions against the wagner group. later this week, not for ukraine actually, but for africa. obviously wagner's reach is quite broad and in africa they run mining operations an weapons tracking, quite luke tifl in a way that is very important to vladimir putin. what do you want to see from those actions? >> well, look, i mean, a lot of us right now are thinking of
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wagner group as sort of the present day heroes because they're taking on putin, but these are very evil troops. i mean, these are people who have been beheading ukrainian troops, these are many of them ex-convicts. prigozhin himself is a notorious criminal who leads this whole organization, and because of that history unsurprisingly they've been war criminals throughout the world and many of the things that they did in africa was not just being mercenaries for russia, it's being war criminals for russia and they need to be held accountable for that. so i think what the state department is saying is let's not forget that these are really evil people, too, the same people who were taking on putin, and we need to hold them accountable for their actions all across the world. >> congressman seth moulton, thank you for making the time. obviously a very uncertain point in this war and we appreciate you being with us.
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>> good to see you, brianna. >> good to see you. jim? we do have breaking news just into cnn. a russian strike has hit the center of kramatorsk, this in eastern ukraine, confirmation that two people have been killed this according to ukraine's minister of internal affairs. the city counsel said on telegram, quote, they hit a catering establishment. search and rescue operations are currently under way, catering establishment meaning a restaurant. an iowans tells cnn up to a dozen people are being pulled from the rubble there. the area hit was a plaza with several restaurants popular with residents as well as the military. ben wedeman is live at the site where these strikes took place. it's not the first time russia has struck civilians. tell us what we know about this strike. >> reporter: what we know, jim, is that this area behind me, which includes this very popular
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restaurant, popular with military, popular with local residents, was struck at 7:32 in the evening. probably when the restaurant was at its fullest. now, the damage would indicate it was a very large strike, perhaps more than one missile, we believe, and as you said, according to the interior ministry -- there's the air raid siren going off -- the interior ministry, two people killed, one of them was a child, in addition to 22 people wounded. now, i managed to get inside where they're trying to dig people out and it's a desperate effort. there are huge slabs of concrete that have fallen, there are dozens of rescue workers, they've brought in a crane to try to lift some of the huge concrete blocks. they've brought in spotlights as well to try to find these people because there's no question there are more people under the rubble as a result of this strike. jim? >> ben, i know it's early, you
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say a missile strike. i mean, of course, the question arises if it was a missile you would need to enter coordinates, that would indicate that this was a deliberate strike on this particular target. it's early. you've covered a lot of these strikes. can you tell from debris you've seen, the size of the strike, what the weapon might have been? >> reporter: no, it would be pure speculation. so we simply don't know. but like i said, it's not just the restaurant itself that got struck, the entire area, windows are shattered, cars have been ripped to pieces. i saw a motor block about 15 yards from the restaurant itself. so the damage is fairly extensive covering a large area, but at this point, no, we don't know what it was. there was no air raid siren preceding this strike, but this is often the case because kramatorsk is compared to kyiv, compared to many other cities in ukraine, is fairly close to some
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of the areas where the fighting is most intense. bakhmut is just an hour's drive from here. so it's not unusual for this thing -- sort of thing to happen, but this is probably a serious incident in terms of the number of casualties, jim. >> yeah, sadly so. having heard that air raid signal while you've been on the air with us, secondary strikes not uncommon as you know better than us, please keep yourself and your team safe and we will continue to follow with updates, ben wedeman in kramatorsk, ukraine, another strike on ukrainian civilians. still ahead on cnn "news central," we're learning new details about the shocking partnership between the pga tour and saudi-backed liv golf. stay with us, we're back in just moments. my most important kitchen tool? my brain.
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now to some of the headlines that we are following this hour. summer is off to an especially deadly start on the u.s. gulf coast where strong rip currents are endangering beachgoers. ten people have drowned in less than two weeks between panama city beach, florida and fort morgan, alabama. the national weather service says a high risk for rip currents continues through tonight. also a new study with a chilling warning about how humans are impacting our planet. researchers say people are extracting so much ground water that it's actually tilting the earth's axis. the study says our planet is shifting about 1.7 inches per year, which is contributing to the rise in sea levels. authors say that of all the factors that affect the earth's axis, redistribution of groundwater is having the largest impact. and there is a real travel nightmare that is happening today across the country in
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american airports. severe weather being blamed for delaying more than 2,000 flights, nearly 1,500 had to be canceled. powerful storms ripping through parts of the mid-atlantic and the northeast, home to many of the country's busiest hubs. boris? new details today on the couldn't version business deal that has enraged some professional golfers and sparked a congressional investigation. cnn has just obtained a copy of the framework agreement that combined the pga tour's business rights with those of the saudi-backed liv golf series. cnn's don riddell joins us now live. don, what are you gleaning from this agreement? >> boris, this framework kind of outlines largely what we already knew, the framework that details a long-term strategic partnership, a for-profit limited liability company that will be set up between these three entities, the pga tour, the dp world tour and the public investment fund of saudi arabia which owns the liv series.
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you can tell from the language in this framework that they haven't got very far, for example, they've referred to this new entity as newco which i assume is short for new company. that is not what it will be known as when we get thuly under way. jay monahan who has been taken ill recently will be the ceo, the saudis will hold the position of the chairmen of the board. what's most revealing here is what we still don't know. so the players who have been asking all the questions, the loyal players, guys like rory mcilroy and rickie fowler, sorry, lads, we still don't have the answers to the questions you want. we still don't know what the fate of the team golf series on liv will be. we don't know how and if players -- the rebel players who left, will be allowed to come back on to the pga tour. and we don't know how much money the saudis are going to be putting in. that still has not been figured out. but everybody has questions, we have questions, boris, the players certainly do and so do u.s. lawmakers. july 11th is when they're going
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to start poking around, that's when this will go to the senate subcommittee on investigations and i guess everybody is hoping at that point at least we will learn a bit more. >> fascinating that jay monahan will stay at the helm, considering he drew so much fire for some of the contradictory statements he had made about liv golf in the past. don riddell, thank you for the reporting. jim? new today an experimental medication has been shown to cause 24% weight loss on average. that the most weight loss seen yet in a whole new class of drugs that is revolutionizing the field. we will have the details on this medication next on cnn "news central." every day a coconfident day... a never-hide-my-y-smile day... a life-of-the-party day... a take-on-the-world day.y... a believe-in-myself day... a flash-my-new-teeth day. because your clearchoice day is the day you get your confidence back for good.
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there is more news today on a new class of weight loss drugs that could mean big changes for the treatment of obesity. and diabetes in this country at a time when the cdc estimates more than 40% of adults in the u.s. are obese. cnn's medical correspondent meg terrell joins us now. tell us where we stand on these drugs, and, i mean, i'm also curious how widely they're used at this point. >> reporter: yeah, you know, they are starting to get increasingly widely used. we hear a lot about drugs like wegovy and ozempic and increasingly we're starting to see data on even next generation drugs that are showing even greater magnitudes of weight loss. and doctors say this is important because obesity is related to health conditions like heart disease, stroke, type 2 diabetes, certain types of cancer, and doctors i've been speaking with have been saying
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they hope that these weight loss medications can be used to potentially prevent some of those health conditions, although that needs to be borne out in clinical trials. what we are seeing in trials already though is the sheer magnitude of weight loss that some of the medicines can produce. wegovy, already on the market, has shown in trials it produces about 15% weight loss over about 68 weeks. there is another drug called mounjaro, already approved for diabetes and is awaiting approval for weight loss, but already used off label that has shown 21% weight loss over 72 weeks. but now in new data that came out from this diabetes conference that happened over the weekend, and into yesterday, we're seeing a new drug that produced 24% weight loss over just 48 weeks. so that's an even shorter period of time, and as they moved into larger trials, they're expecting potentially even more weight loss. now, they also saw additional benefits from the medicine in this study. a number of patients could stop taking blood pressure medication, for example. and a lot of patients who started out with prediabetes actually got back to normal blood sugar levels by the end of
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the study. there is a lot of hope for this next generation of drugs. >> that's interesting. so not just the weight loss, but some of the health consequences of the weight loss or of being obese seems to be addressed by this early on. there is a lot more to discover. meg terrell, thanks so much. coming up, former president donald trump on tape, talking about holding documents, physically holding them, documents that he says he did not declassify. why this audio could be a critical piece of evidence in the case over his alleged mishandling of classified information. stay with us. ooooh, let me put a reminder on my phone. on the top of the pile! oh. only pay f for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty.y. liberty. liberty. ♪
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