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good evening. former president trump turns up the gaslight claiming the damning tape of him showing off classified material at his golf club is normal. exclusive reporting. rudey giuliani talking to federl investigators. we begin with the forger pres former president running a play he has used time and time again. trying to do damage control today after we played an au audiotape that cnn obtained in which he is boasting about and seemingly showing off a classified war plan he was not allowed to have to people not allowed to see it. the audio was recorded with his knowledge at his bedminster golf club in july of 2021 and is expected to be evidence at his upcoming trial. i want to replay a portion of it for you now before showing you his remarks today about it so there's no doubt whatsoever
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about what he is now trying to g gaslight away. >> this wins my case. it's highly confidential, secret information. look at this. this was done by the military, given to me. i think we can probably -- >> i don't know. we will have to see. >> declassify it. as president, i could have declassified it. now i can't. this is classified. >> we have a problem. >> isn't that interesting? >> the former president acknowledging it's classified information, secret, highly confidential, he says and acknowledging he did not declassify it and cannot. according to the special counsel's incitement, he is speaking with a writer working on mark meadows' memoir and two staffers. it is speaking to fox today in new hampshire, the former
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president suggests what you heard was not what you just heard. >> what did i say wrong? i didn't even see the recording. i did nothing wrong. we had a lot of papers, a lot of papers stacked up. you could hear the russell of the paper. nobody said i did anything wrong. other than the fake news which is fox, too. >> first of all, audio is not something you can see. it's a recording, you hear it. putting that aside, he goes on to talk about what's on the audio, which he says he has never seen, but his argument is one of his favorite go tos, what you heard is not what you heard. his campaign spokesman continuing the gaslighting. the audiotape provides context proving that president trump did nothing wrong at all. that's from a spokesman. it was followed by another statement from the former president speaking about himself in the third person, quoting now, as we have been saying from the moment president trump rode down the golden escalator, the president did nothing wrong.
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not only did the former president say he didn't do what he was caught on tape doing, according to him he has never done anything wrong since 2015. despite being caught on tape this time and indicted, despite being caught on tape asking georgia officials to find him 11,780 votes, which he was not entitled to in the 2020 election, and facing another possible indictment, despite having been recorded asking the president of ukraine for help smearing joe biden in exchange for military aid and being impeefd, despite having been found liable for defaming a woman he was found liable for sexually abusing in the 1990s, all that but to believe the former president and his supporters, there's nothing to see here. in other words, we're back to one of his oldest tropes. joining us now kaitlan collins, also former fbi deputy director andrew mccabe. this is just right out of his playbook. it would be funny if it weren't so serious. >> it is. if you listen, he is not
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disputing what is at the heart of this. he is trying to talk about all the paperwork that he had, kind of throwing everything in there. maybe this is a defense tactic. it's not totally clear to me. >> he claimed in the past there were articles and things he had on his desk. >> right. articles, newspaper clippings, newspaper notes are not classified material. what he says on the audio is, this is like highly classified. then he says, it's secret. then he says, look. i think he is not saying there that it's some magazine clipping. yes, he does keep a lot of those often if you see his desk, they were piled high with this. what i was struck by with his defense of what he was saying in saying he hadn't seen or heard the audio, but saying he did nothing wrong, is what he is saying and what his campaign is saying is not actually a dispute of what we can hear on the audio. you can't dispute the audio. that's why his attorneys when they found out about this several months ago knew that this was going to be a problem. it does undercut their defense,
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which is that he declassified things before he left the white house or after he left the white house. >> not just him saying that. a lot of his surrogates around him were on television saying that time and time again, he just declassified these things. he acknowledges he couldn't and didn't. >> that's the most damning part of this. that's the most difficult. they have not only said that in public, but they say that in legal filings. that will be tough for todd blanche and whoever else joins his legal team as they are taking this to trial. >> andrew, the former president is claiming the papers we hear and him looking for are articles. not only does that not align with the words he is using on the tape about being secret, highly classified, but there are witnesses in the room. how likely is it that jack smith talked to others in the room? >> i guarantee it. i can't guarantee it. it's about as close as i can come tie guarantee. i'm quite sure they identified and interviewed and possibly even brought to the grand jury any number of those four
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witnesses. i would exbekt you will see those witnesses at trial as well. if any of those witnesses take the stand, they will be asked things like -- they will stop the tape at a particular point and say, okay, at that moment, when he made that comment, what was in his hand? they will describe the document that was in his hand. did you see what was on the page? could you see if there were classification marking snz was there a cover sheet with a colored border around it? any of those things that any of us know as indicators of classified material. his defense of it was just a fist full of newspaper articles would fall apart. i should say even if that's his defense, essentially i was actually holding something that was not what i said it was, that puts him in the unenviable position of telling the jury, essentially, you hear me on that tape lying. that's what i sound like when i'm lying. that is never a good impression that you want to leave with the jury.
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>> liz cheney spoke to nbc news about this. i want to play a bit of that. >> we have seen now with the audiotape that is out today as well that there's just simply no question that he is unfit to be the president of the united states. >> obviously, she's not in line with the former president's supporters. how is this being viewed by people around the former president, by his backers? >> people view it as problematic. the other way that i think -- when people are shocked when republicans don't come out and say what liz cheney says or don't criticize the conduct that's underlying it is they have seen trump survive scandal time and time again. he has been fine. i think that's why you hear republicans be hesitant to come out. there was a congressman from tennessee on earlier today.
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he was saying -- he called it biz bizarrewo world. for trump, his polling, he does okay. he was saying just how mystified he is by that. not in a critical way. i think that's how republicans see this. as trump was flying back from new hampshire today, he had two reporters on the plane with him. he said to her, explaining the comments on the audio saying it was bravado as he was talking to the people in the room. it reminded me of "access hollywood" when he was saying it's locker room talk. it gave republicans this defense to use. they came out and used it after being a little bit quiet for a bit. i think that is part of the mentality and how republicans stand up for him. they see that he has weathered other scandals. >> extraordinary he was trying to impress a ghost writer for mark meadows for a book no one will ever read. what does this tape and other known evidence indicate about the strength of the case?
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>> for all indications, the case is incredibly strong. we knew that already with the indictment, which is very detailed. it is not detailed with allegations. it's detailed with actual statements of fact. things that can be backed up by pieces of evidence. this recording just adds a level of reality for those jurors. imagine you are sitting in the jury box and that recording is played, you are essentially listening to the defendant say, in his own words, that -- you are listening to him commit the offense that he has been accused of. he is in possession of national defense information. he is in knowing possession of national defense information by his own description on the recording. it's clearly national defense information. it's allegedly a memorandum of options to attack another nation. then he commits the offense of sharing it, either by description or actually be
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showing a bunch of people in the room who don't have access -- don't have lawful access to that material. it's just a vivid and unmistakable impression that they will go away with, that they have kind of heard, at least in one instance, the former president doing exactly what's been alleged. >> as you know, walt nauta, the president's body person, he was supposed to be in court today. what happened? >> he didn't go to court because he never made it there. there's been a lot of flight cancellations. he reportedly sat on the tarmac for several hours yesterday. never made it down to miami to get arraigned. remember, two weeks ago when trump was arrested and arraigned in miami, walt was supposed to be as well. he is a co-defendant for the former president. he wasn't because he didn't have a florida-based attorney which you need to have your rights read to you to plead not guilty. he didn't have that. he still doesn't have that based
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on what where he know. >> he doesn't have a florida-based attorney? >> based on what we know so far. it's not clear this would have gone forward today. i do think this is an indication of something we have been talking about, which is the judge here and what the time lines are going to look like. is it going to get delayed. after that happened today, his flight was delayed or never made it there, he was never in florida, his attorney was there, the judge said, you have to be here july 6. that's your next date. you have to have a florida attorney here with you. >> appreciate it. kaitlan collins will be here later. joining me now is harvard law professor lawrence tribe. professor, you hear the former president saying this is much ado about nothing. nothing wrong with it. how problematic do you think it is for his defense? >> i think it essentially destroys any defense he could have had. makes it clear that he knew that he had no longer any authority
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to declassify documents and classified or not, this, for all appe appearances, was not just a document that was top secret, it was operational contingency plans for attacking iran. he was just showing it to people. i think it's clear that jack smith, who always dots his is and crosses his ts is going to be able to show that it was exactly what donald trump claimed it was. his defense, if you want to call it, that i was bragging and lying, which may be his defense, or maybe he will say it was a planted map or maybe something else, you never know. he is green lighting all over the place. there's going to be evidence from the people in the room where it happened that this is what it appears to be.
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>> would jack smith have -- is it possible jack smith would not have included this if he didn't have people in the room who could back up what was actually on these papers he was rustling about? >> not only possible, it's likely he wouldn't have included it if he didn't have that kind of backup. he is essentially -- there's so in ways it could be used. it can be used as an exit ramp if aileen cannon slow walks the case or makes some impossible rulings. he can be indicted in new jersey, because this show and tell of very dangerous national security information, defense information occurred at bedminster. they can use it to prove trump's state of mind in a prosecution in florida. it is also important, quite apart from how it's used legally, it's important in the way that liz cheney said. it shows to anybody who cares
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about this nation or about the constitution or about preserving the republic, that this man is a clear and present danger to the security of the united states of america. he and the people around him think it's cool to show people how we would go about attacking a nation like iran if push came to shove. just step back for a minute. what does that say about what it would mean for him to have continued access to top secret materials about how we would respond to a crisis in the middle east, to something in the taiwan straits? this man is a clear danger to the country. quite apart from how people will react to the trial. after seeing and hearing this evidence, the only way that a juror could possibly vote to acquit him is by basically saying, i don't care if he is
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guilty. i'm committed from the start to go with this leader. he is my leader. hopefully, a fair jury will prevent anyone from being on there who either is pre-committed to vote to convict or pre-committed to vote to acquit. this is going to be devastating evidence, but quite apart from that, if the country hears this as it is beginning to on cnn and other networks, it's going to begin seeping in, this man cares about nothing but himself. he is willing to sacrifice the country to hold power. i don't think there's going to be a majority in even a very red state that says it's fine to do that. >> about the venue, is there a scenario or any scenario under which judge cannon could block prosecutors from introducing the tape in court? or is it virtually guaranteed? >> we have seen in the past that there's no predicting what she
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will do. she may be in that sense really a loose cannon. there's no legal basis on which she could exclude it, because it certainly bears at least on his state of mind. it doesn't have to have happened in florida in order to prove that he knew what it meant to have this kind of material and he knew he had no right to hold it. he said, i no longer have a right to declassify it. clearly, admissible. if she were to mistakenly exclude it, then they could indielt him in new jersey, because her only ground for excludeing it would be this is a new jersey matter, not a matter for florida. >> you mentioned the jury earlier, the trial likely will be held in an area favorable to the former president. how concerned do you think the special counsel's team should be? >> i think they should realize that the process of jury selection could be very important, because it only takes
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one juror to result in a hung jury, a mistrial. it's really important to realize that the process of jury selection has to be meticulous. we really have to pick people who take their oath seriously to follow the law and to follow the facts. it turns out in this country, people do take their oath seriously, even if they are part of a politically committed group, committed to a particular person. i think that although it's a concern, i'm also willing to believe that the jury system is going to work. there is the backup of going to new jersey. and he could be indict and i'm sure he will in d.c. for the plot to overturn the election. he has it coming from all sides. the main thing is the country sees this evidence and has got to know that this is a dangerous man to put in charge of our most
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appeals court judge michael ludig who warned the former president and his allies are a clear and present danger, his take on the legal theory that was central to at tempt to overturn the presidential election and might have had a significant impact for 2024. first, new cnn reporting on one of the lawyers who took part in the effort, rudy giuliani, who we learned has met with federal investigators. sa what do we know about this interview? >> reporter: my colleague and i know that he went in and spoke to federal investigators recently who are still investigating january 6 and efforts to subvert the peaceful transition of power. what we don't know is what the focus was of the meeting, this discussion with investigators. there are a number of elements around january 6 that rudy giuliani was involved in that could have been the focus. we know witnesses have been asked about the activities of top lawyers surrounding donald trump who were spreading
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baseless claims of election fraud. we know he is one of those folks. we know giuliani had previously been subpoenaed by the feds who were looking for documents related to payments he got around the 2020 election. of course, have reported that investigators have been looking into this fake elector scheme. he played a role in overseeing the electors across seven battleground states. those are areas they could have focused on, but we don't know what the subject was. >> did he have to answer questions? could he just plead the fifth? >> certainly, no one is forcing him to answer questions. this is a meeting he goes into with prosecutors. this isn't an appearance before the grand jury from what we understand at this point. it does seem like there was likely back and forth. we don't know exactly what the focus of this meeting was with investigators. >> does it indicate anything about what stage the investigation is at? >> it's interesting because it's late in the game for investigators to be talking to rudy giuliani. he was a prominent player.
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there has been a stream of witnesses going into the federal grand jury. we know prosecutors have been trying to tap new witnesses to come in for interviews to check the box, make sure they covered all the bases. we have gotten indications from people familiar with the investigation that we could be nearing a charging decision in this case. of course, special counsel jack smith hasn't announced any charges. we will have to wait and see how rudy giuliani could fit into this. >> thank you. michael ludig testified last year before the january 6 select committee. he is the one whose legal argument was used by mike pence. he predicted more legal troubles ahead. i appreciate you joining us. i want to discuss today's key
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supreme court election ruling in a moment. first, how big a deal is it in your view that rudy giuliani met with federal prosecutors? >> i'm just learning of that tonight. it's obviously significant. it's hard to assess just how significant it is. for the past few weeks, at least, it seemed that jack smith and the department of justice are nearing charging decisions for january 6. it makes perfectly good sense to me that they would want to talk to mr. giuliani before making those decisions. >> in your recent "new york times" op-ed which was a blistering indictment of the republican party support of donald trump, i'm wondering why you think a grand jury will
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indict him. >> we know that the grand jury was impanelled a long time ago. it has been working dutifully for many, many months now. ever since jack smith came on board as special counsel, anderson. the department of justice seems to have picked up the pace in that investigation. one just has the sense that we are nearing the time when charges will be brought or not brought, for that matter. >> the supreme court today rejected the so-called independent state legislature theory. can you just explain how this theory tracks with the actions then president trump wanted then vice president pence to take on january 6, actions which we should remind people you personally convinced the vice president not to take. >> anderson, the moore versus harper is the most significant case for america's democracy
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since our founding almost 250 years ago. >> wow. that's saying a lot. >> it is, indeed. we can -- i can explain that to you if we have time. today's decision was a reverberating, resounding victory for america's democracy. to your specific question, the independent -- so-called independent state legislature theory of constitutional interpretation was the centerpiece of the former president's effort to overturn the 2020 presidential election. in particular, that aspect of the plan that called for the various legislatures in the swing states to transmit to congress for counting fake elect
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t electoral slates that would vote for donald trump over joe biden, even though joe biden had won the popular vote in those respective states. the former president and his allies had argued for this independent state legislature theory, even before the 2020 presidential election. in december of 2020, the supreme court actually declined to take the case, which would have settled the issue prior to january 6. i always thought that the court had an obligation to take the case at that time, but it did not. once it did not, i and other people who follow the supreme court, knew that the court would take the case sooner rather than later. and it took moore versus harper,
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sooner, and decided that case today. >> do you believe -- i guess, what impact do you think the supreme court ruling today could have on the special counsel's investigation, for instance, of the former president? >> as i said, we know that the independent state legislature theory, which was decided today by the supreme court, was the centerpiece of that effort to overturn the 2020 presidential election. so jack smith and the department of justice are scrutinizing that plan, the centerpiece of which was the independent state legislature theory. as i thought about it this afternoon, after this morning's decision, if i were jack smith or the attorney general of the united states, i believe i would have needed today's decision from the supreme court of the
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united states in order to proceed with charges against the former president and his allies and in connection to the january 6 events. >> when you testified before the january 6 select committee, you said donald trump and his allies are a clear and present danger to the democracy. they would attempt to overturn the 2024 election in same way they tried in 2020. do you still believe that danger exists tonight and in the months ahead? >> as of tonight, the danger is neither clear nor present with the decision today repudiating the independent state legislature theory, anderson. when you couple today's decision, repudiating that
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theory, with congress' reform, if you will, of the electoral count act, at the end of its last term, those two accomplishments, if you will, all but ensure that no president, let alone the former president, could attempt to overturn the 2024 presidential election in the same way using the same template that the former president used in 2020. >> judge, i appreciate you being with us. thank you so much. >> thank you, anderson. it's a pleasure. the former president and ron desantis trading jabs at events in the first republican primary state today. we are in new hampshire with details.
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that lead has flipped. the former president is ahead in the first republican primary state by double digits. today, he attacks desantis on a number of fronts. the florida governor touted his record while criticizing that of the former president until it came to an audience question about january 6. >> reporter: former president donald trump, the current gop frontrunner speaking at a luncheon with the new hampshire federation of republican women. >> thanks to the republican people of the great state of new hampshire. >> reporter: attacking his chief rival, florida governor ron desantis. >> somebody said, how come you only attack him? because he is in second place. why don't you attack others? they're not in second place. soon, he won't be in second place. >> reporter: desantis taking a less direct approach. >> the question is -- i remember these rallies in 2016. it was exciting. drain the swamp.
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i also remember, lock her up. lock her up. right? then two weeks after the election, doforget i said that. no, no, no. one thing you will get from me, if i tell you i'm not going to do that, i'm not just saying that for an election. >> reporter: desantis urging voters to look forward not backward. declining to criticize the former president when asked. >> some people think that trump's actions on january 6 and beyond violated the key principles of america and the constitution set forth by our founding fathers. do you believe that trump violated the peaceful transfer of power? >> here is what i know. if this election is about biden's failures and our vision for the future, we are going to win. if it's about relitigating things that happened two, three years ago, we're going to lose. >> reporter: desantis taking
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questions from the audience. a tradition of the primary process after not doing so on his first swing through the state. >> what's your administration going to do to protect our second amendment rights? >> great question. thank you. >> reporter: the competing event prompting the republican women's group to criticize desantis for drawing attention away from the luncheon with trump. some members of the group objected to the statement. >> he is holding an event right now to compete with us. >> reporter: as the republican primary heats up, kevin mccarthy not saying whether he believes trump is the strongest candidate for the party to nominate in 2024. >> can trump beat biden? yeah. it's complicated if he has trials and all of this stuff over -- >> it makes it complicated. it helps him. >> is he the strongest to win? i don't know that answer. >> reporter: those comments sparking outrage from trump allies and advisors who believe the former president helped
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mccarthy claim the speakership. >> has speaker mccarthy said anything else since he made those remarks? >> reporter: anderson, after we reported how angry trump's allies and advisors were, mccarthy appeared to play cleanup. he said trump was stronger today than he was in 2016. and attempted to say this was the media driving some sort of wedge between the speaker and the former president. of course, as we played for you that sound, it's mccarthy himself who says that he does not know if trump is the strongest candidate in 2024. hard to see how that was the media playing that out. >> thanks so much. we take you to eastern ukraine where ra russian missil hit a restaurant packed with customers. ou only pay for what you need. that's my boy. ♪ stay off the freeways!
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in vladimir putin's grip on power. tonight, cnn reporting, two planes linked to prigozhin are spotted at the air base in belarus. both landed there this morning. the boss arrived today. prigozhin's plane hasn't been seen since saturday. more from ben wedeman in eastern ukraine. what is the latest? >> reporter: basically, they are still digging through the rubble looking for survivors. the numbers we have now are four dead, including a teenage girl, and 47 wounded. among those wounded -- we must warn you, this is graphic video. we can't independently verify it. it's video of an 8-month-old baby who was in that restaurant injured. we understand the baby was taken
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to the hospital. the condition isn't too bad. this gives you an indication of the terror of what happened in that restaurant. it was full of people. the strike happened at 7:32 in the evening when it was full of people. we understand there might have been a party in the basement. it was a scene of utter pandemonium. they are basically working around the clock trying to find more people, because they believe there are many more people under the rubble. >> could you talk more about the area that was hit? from what we are seeing it's a civilian area, not military. >> reporter: it's the middle of the city. this is a restaurant called the ria. very popular. we were having lunch there yesterday, full of people. yes, there were soldiers. there were civilians. there were children. there were all sorts of people. it's a very busy, very popular place. in that area, there's a post
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office. there's a jewelry store around the corner. one of the biggest supermarkets is just a few minutes down the block. this is a mixture of stores, restaurants, residential buildings. there's nothing military in that area. it's completely -- it would seem completely random. but the fact that it's popular with soldiers makes you wonder. this evening, president zelenskyy in his nightly address said it was struck by an s-300 missile. that's a russian missile normally used -- it's a surface to air missile. they are using it frequently, however, to target cities and towns near the front line. it's not particularly precise. so this may have been simply a random missile fired into a very busy center of a civilian city. >> ben wedeman, appreciate the
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reporting. thank you. at footnote, the man on the ground, we don't know the extent of his injuries or what happened to him. back to our top story. the former president talking about the classified document. it's the latest recording of him that has people talking. it's not the first. details coming up. ing teeth for. it changes how you eat, how you feel, and d how you enjoy life. it changes your smile and how others smile at you. clearchoice network doctors have changed over 100,000 lives with dental implants, and they can change yours, too. because a clearchoice day changes every day. schedule a free consultation.
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the audio recording exclusively obtained by cnn of president trump boasting about a secret document that he wasn't allowed to keep or share with those without proper security clearance is just one of many recordings of him which have made headlines over the years. with a look at the tapes here's our randi kaye. >> i'm automatically attracted to beautiful -- i just start kissing them. it's like a magnet. >> reporter: donald trump caught on tape saying crude things about women in 2005 during an interview with "access hollywood." broadcast just weeks before election day in 2016. >> grab them by the [ bleep ]. you can do anything. >> reporter: days after the recording surfaced trump, then the republican presidential nominee, apologized. though "the new york times" later reported trump told a republican senator that he
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wanted to investigate the recording because, quote, we don't think that was my voice. also before the 2016 election trump was recorded in his office by his then lawyer michael cohen. the two were discussing how they would buy the rights to former "playboy" playmate karen mcdougal's story. she claims she and trump had an affair which ended in 2007. trump has denied the affair. but listen to him on tape. >> i need to open up a company for the transfer of all of that info regarding our friend david. i've spoken to allen weisselberg about how to set the whole thing up. with -- >> so where are we on -- >> funding. >> yes. >> reporter: before election day trump's friend david pecker, whose company published the "national enquirer," paid mcdougal $150,000 for the rights to her story, then buried it, in what's known as a catch and kill scheme. months before the 2020 election president trump was recorded on
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a phone call with ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy. according to a white house transcript trump pressured zelenskyy by asking him to investigate trump's 2020 opponent, joe biden, as well as biden's son hunter, who once had business in ukraine. later trump repeatedly referred to the call like this. >> we had a perfect phone call with the president of ukraine. >> reporter: a whistleblower inside the white house shared details of the call with members of the intelligence community. congress investigated. in the end that recording led to trump's first impeachment. trump denied any wrongdoing. in 2020 journalist bob woodward recorded interviews with trump for his book. those interviews later made public revealed that trump knew for months how dangerous the coronavirus was and how it spread but intentionally concealed that from the public. >> i wanted to always play it down. i still like playing it down. because i don't want to create a panic. >> it goes through air, bob. that's always tougher than the touch. >> reporter: after the 2020
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election trump was recorded yet again. >> it's just not possible to have lost georgia. it's not possible. when i heard it was close, i said there's no way. >> reporter: that's trump on the phone with georgia secretary of state brad raffensperger. trump called him following his loss in the 2020 election. >> i think it's pretty clear that we won. we won very substantially georgia. >> reporter: that wasn't true. trump lost georgia by 11,779 votes. on the recording he's heard asking raffensperger to find enough votes to give trump a win. >> i just want to find 11,780 votes. which is one more than we have. because we won the state. >> reporter: raffensperger didn't play ball. trump is now under investigation by georgia's fulton county district attorney for his actions on the phone call in question. randi kaye, cnn. >> one late note on this latest tape talking to abc in semafor
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on the way back from new hampshire the former president insisted he was not showing off classified documents in the clip. quoting him now, "i would say it was bravado, if you want to know the truth. it was bravado." he goes on to say "i was talking and holding up papers but i had no documents, i didn't have any documents." that's his latest explanation. next, a blistering report by the department of justice that answers the conspiracy theories about how jeffrey epstein died. details ahead. tourists that turn into scientists. tourists photographing thousands of miles ofof remote coral reefs. that can be analalyzed by ai in real time. ♪ so researchers canan identify which areas are at risk. and help life underwater flourish. ♪ >> woman: why did i choose safelite? i love my electric car, so when my windshield got cracked,
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