predominantly muslim ethnic minority in china. the u.s. has recognized them as a target of genocide, the treatment comes up in many conversations in foreign policy circles in washington. certainly on the debate stage. suarez, who is the miami mayor said, of course i am aware of the suffering of the uyghurs in china. i did not recognize the pronunciation my friend used. that is on me. that's all for us tonight, thanks for joining us, for more breaking news, cnn tonight with abby phillip starts right now. good >> evening everyone, tonight we start with a dissection of the tape that maybe central to the central case against former president donald trump. the tapes that he responded to today, we will get to in just a moment, but first let's start here. >> where starting right at the beginning. >> we're going to try to [inaudible] they were trying to do that

before you are even sworn in. to overlaps turn your election. >> with molly, let me see that. i'll show you an example. he said that i wanted to attack iran. isn't it amazing, i have a big pile of papers. this thing just came up. look. >> from the start, this explains why trump allegedly flashed a classified document to people who did not have a clearance. to counter, general mark milly claimed that trump was itching to attack iran. speaking of clearance, in that clip, he asked an aide to hand him papers. it's unclear who exactly, dead and whether that person had a security clearance either. >> they presented made this, it's off the record, but they presented made this. this was him. this was the defense department in him. >> it is yet another instance in the tapered trump recognizes a document. and the first time that he hints at it sensitivity. >> we looked at and, this was

him, this was not done by me. this was him. all sorts of stuff. pages long. look. wait a minute, let's see here. [laughter] i just found, isn't that amazing? this totally winds my case you know. except it is a highly confidential, secret, this is secret and so. >> and there it is again, another apparent acknowledgment that whatever he is holding is quote, highly confidential and, secret. so in other words, not declassified. >> hillary would print that out all the time. [inaudible] [laughter] >> she would send it to anthony weiner. [laughter] >> the irony of trump and his allies joking about hillary clinton's server is rich considering? [crowd chanting] >> i'll tell you what, for what

she has done, they should lock her up. >> she wants to stay out of jail. she doesn't want to go to jail. she should be in jail. she should be in prison. she has to go to jail. we made a special prosecutor to look into hillary clinton. special prosecutor to filler this deal out. special prosecutor, here we, cabaret? >> i don't think anyone could forget that. but that was then, and this is now. >> i was just say, we were talking about. it and you know, he said, he wanted to attack iran. [inaudible] >> so again there, appearing to acknowledge the presence of the documents. and a reference to a plan to attack iran. >> i was just saying, because we were talking about. it and he said, he wanted to attack iran. he said [inaudible]

this was done by the military, and given to me. i think we can probably [inaudible] >> we will have to say, we will have to try to figure out. >> declassify them. since i'm president, i can declassify them. no i can't. but this is [inaudible] isn't that interesting? so cool? >> this is key. what you just heard there is an acknowledgment by trump that he understands the declassification process. that he did not declassified documents. and, once again, acknowledging the sensitivity of these documents. it is also worth noting that those around him, acknowledging to that they probably shouldn't be seeing those documents either. >> bring some folks in please. >> the coats are not a part of the legal, case but it's worth noting that not after this was

recorded, trump called for a -- further restrictive voting large but that is not here or there. today, trump did respond, twice, to this tape. he said that the top on the tape was all bravado. but he also said this. >> i had a whole desk full of lots of papers, mostly newspaper argue tickles, copies of magazines, copies of different plants, having to do with many many subjects. and what was said was absolutely fine. and very perfectly we did nothing wrong. >> you are not concerned then, with your own voice on those recordings? >> my voice was fine. what did i say wrong about those recordings? i didn't even see the recording. all i know is that i did nothing wrong. we had a lot of papers, a lot of papers stacked up. in fact, you could hear the russell of the paper. >> i want to bring in john bolton, former trump national security adviser, and former u.s. ambassador to the united

nations. thank you for being with us here tonight, what was your reaction upon hearing this tape? >> it sounded exactly like i've heard donald trump talk in similar settings, and the fact that he really, out of his own mouth, admitted both to having a classified document, to saying that he could have declassified it but did not. before he left the white house. and that he still had it. my first thought was, imagine our jury hearing that at trial. and if there are more pieces of evidence like that. the sooner this case goes to the jury, the better. i think that's gonna be this positive factor here, really whether we see this case tried before the november 2024 election or after. >> you said before including on this program, that trump was prone to bluster and embellishment. as you heard the audio did this ring alarm bells to you about how serious this is, and do you

now believe that the he did have in his possession, that document that he claimed to have? >> you never can tell with trump, but presumably the witnesses saw the document, they didn't just hear the papers russell. and perhaps they had to look at it, and perhaps the trump staffer sides. i'm very interested in the list of 84 potential witnesses that the special counsel has filed. that's gonna be enormously interesting, if any or all of that is made public. and i think that in each of these things that are revealed, i hope that is not a leak from the special counsel's office. i don't know where it came from, i hope it did not come from there. as this unfolds, i think the public will get a more profound sense of the danger, potentially cause to american national security. by trump's obsession with having these things because as he says in that, excerpted shows cool to have. it. >> and you hear him on the tape

as well joking about hillary clinton's emails, a scandal that he is branding bragging that he had his own set of documents that he never declassified. what are your thoughts on, frankly, the hypocrisy of that? >> that is par for the course with trump, he just does not think that rules apply to, him i think a lot of people have said that. it is true. and in the past, let's face it, he has gotten away with a lot of things. he's been able to fight in litigation to delay the outcome, to just wear people down, to impose costs on them. the question here is whether the special counsel can outlast. him he has tried to take some measure of control of the schedule. proposing a december trial date. as i've said, i think that is the dispositive question actually for the election, will trump's case go to a jury before the election? >> and given the seriousness of the allegations, if he is

convicted by a jury, do you think that the penalty for that should be actual jail time? >> obviously, he will appeal and that will take some time. here i think that it is unlikely that a former president would be actually put in jail. i can't imagine what the secret service would think of that. and what it would do to their job. there comes a point where the penalty just makes him into a martyr. i do not think that we should be at this point, considering whether or not to pardon trump. and i would rather see what the conviction, convictions are for. which counts of the indictment, even before getting to the question of incarceration. i think the analogy to the nixon pardon is misplaced, since nixon resigned the presidency before he got a pardon. which trump has done nothing

to. so i'd rather let the trial play out, and see if the jury comes back with it. >> so seeing where trump's allies are today. saying that this tapers proof of his innocence. is there any version of this where, even joking about using state secrets to when. let's say it was all a joke. is exoneration? >> absolutely not, this is another example of trump's success with flat out lying. and that's what this. is and they know it. and their hope is that enough people won't pay attention. that they will buy that he is being persecuted yet again. a cold show that most republicans think that this prosecution is politically motivated. and they will take trump's word for it. that's why i stress the importance of actually getting the case to trial. i think it is very hard to say if trump was convicted of the 12 jurors, whoever they might be, our agents of the deep

state. and that somehow the deep state, in front of a trump friendly judge so far, they managed to find 12 people that were instructed by the deep state to convict him. i think being convicted by a jury of his peers would be a devastating blow. but if it doesn't happen before the election, it is just speculation. >> some of his rivals running against him in the 2024 field, are basically saying that he shouldn't be tried it all just because he is a former president, and just because he is a candidate. what do you think about that? >> i think that disqualifies those people from being president. and i would say the same for any of them who say that he should be pardoned. part of the equal application of the law is that everybody has to be held to the same standard. and frankly, i'll just show my biases here, when it comes to national security information. i can't think of a higher duty for the president. a higher example of leadership

to set for everybody below him in the executive branch that deals with classified information. then to handle it carefully. which trump has flouted. he did for four years in office, he's done it since then. and i think that there is something to be said to show the people that you are held to high standards because everybody else's, including the president, and when you fail to uphold those standards, you pay the penalty. >> all right, former united nations ambassador, john bolton, thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> coming up next, donald trump's former impeachment attorney will respond to the tape. and how trump's lawyers may try to defend it. plus, a busy night here tonight. not one, but two presidential candidates. isa hutchinson, and will, heard join us live next. and vladimir putin's russia, launching a deadly attack in ukraine. as the nation reels from a rebellion. cnn's at the site of the strike,

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>> and tonight, the fallout continues over the audio first heard here on cnn, of former president trump discussing secret documents that he said that he had never declassified, trump responding today insisting that he did nothing wrong, then he later say that it was all provider. but, does the tape put his legal defense on the back foot? joining me now to discuss all of this is the lead counsel who

represented trump in his second impeachment trial, david schoen. david, thank you for being here tonight. so, trump today told reporters that he had, quote, a lot of papers and different plans on his desk and later told reporters on the flight to new jersey tonight that he was talking about plans to a golf course. do all of these shifting explanations help him or hurt him in this case? >> well generally i think shifting explanations probably do not help and i would say that one would be hard-pressed to say that having a tape like this is better for the defense then works for the defense, but maybe there is this theory by which it is. however, i do not like the way that everyone is convicting him already based on the tape. any criminal defense lawyer who is handled a lot of cases knows that taped can be valuable for the government, but they can also are not magic. there are ways to cross examine

tapes and part of this thing is, i know ambassador fold and make the point that it is going to come down to what the witnesses say. you can be sure each of the witnesses who are present to have them interviewed by the government and they know what those people intended to say. so that is going to give some sort of flavor to what happened here. but, it is not quite as simple as people think. it is a serious matter, but every criminal case almost every criminal case has serious issues that have to be fought and there are some defenses to this. they have to fit within their defense theory, part of the problem right now is that he does not really have a real criminal defense lawyer on this team, he is going to have to have that. >> to that point, what do you think that the trump will eventually get a lawyer willing to take up this case given how he conducts himself as a defendant? is it difficult to get a lawyer to want to take up, not only the case and the difficult issues that arise, but also trump who is out there talking about it every day? >> first of all, i do think there are great lawyers who

will take this case. he has lawyers now willing to take the case, i think chris caused by all reports as a pretty smart guy, but he needs a criminal defense lawyer, somebody who knows how to fight a criminal defense case in a hard way and knows how to deal with these kinds of issues. but i think you will find that. many people would be more than willing to do it. i do not find him to be a difficult client, as odd as that sounds. in every conversation i've had with him he has been gracious with me and he is always accepted my advice and been very flattering. i do not find immediate difficult client. i don't like clients talking about cases, but he is donald trump, he's going to talk about what he wants to stop about and people understand that. one thing that we have to take a step back and take a broader look at this case, i know ambassador fulton kind of alluded to it, but rooms that you have millions of people who believe that this never should've been brought as a criminal prosecution. never underestimate the value of a jury nullification. so no matter what is on any

tape, some of the people, the reaction will be listen, can you imagine what conversations hillary clinton had about the documents that she had or can you imagine when biden was taking those documents with him, conversations that he might have had? it might not get past that discussion -- >> you know, it is an interesting point. but in this case trump was the one who recorded this conversation, he had his team recorded. so that is why he is on tape. to the point about hillary clinton's emails scandal, he is on this tape acknowledging that he has documents that he shouldn't, he is joking about the hillary clinton case. how does that play with a jury? >> i want to make one point here that i think is being missed a little bit, at least from my perspective. i do not think in the tape that he said he had documents he should not have had. he said that clearly he had documents that were classified, it could have classified -- them >> he said they were secret. >> right, in their theory of defense as i understand it, remember that they believe that, under the presidential records act, he had the exclusive rights of determining which documents were personal and

which were presidential. irrespective of whether the document was classified. so if you follow that theory of defense, one of the problems they have to prove under the statute that he is charged with is it a person unauthorized to have the document. if they believe, and they think that they can prove that they were authorized to have the document, whether classified or not, because the president had the exclusive right without judicial review of determining that something is a personal document, and he believed this to be a personal document, let's just say for arguments sake, because he felt he had been in the past under siege and people are told lies about him he wanted to be able to defend himself. in this case he thought that general milley was doing a disservice to the country, he wanted to the country to know -- so i'm just giving you a scenario. >> i hear what you are saying, but i think we should also tell the viewers, just so that they understand, what you are describing is something that is a totally untested legal theory that will have to be worn out and it is made more difficult as former attorney general bill

barr has pointed out that these are documents that were created by the government and also classified, he acknowledges that part of it, that they were classified. so in order to then go and say, while they are personal now, that would also have to be proven in court. so i take your point that they are going to make that case, but i think that we should just be clear that this is not a, something that will just be accepted by a judge because it has not been tested. >> of course, it has not been tested. i will tell you one thing to keep your eye on all times is the third prong, the willful -ness prong. in the statute, willful-ness means as it does broadly in other statutes, it means that the person acted knowing that here she did something the law prohibited. if you follow that series through, and he believed he had to write to these documents, he's entitled to a jury charge that the government has to prove that he understood or believed that he did something law prohibited. but president trump, from what we are hearing so far, that was not the case. they are at least entitled to that defense. >> we will see. you are right that is entitled to the defiant, but it's

complicated by the fact that he says that they are secret, i did not declassify them when i could have. david, we have you on because you understand the mind of a defense lawyer and you also understand trump so we appreciate you joining us tonight. >> thank you very much. >> coming up next for us, just days after vladimir putin faced an armed rebellion, russia striking a restaurant inside of ukraine. cnn is there tonight. plus, presidential candidate and former cia officer will hern joins me on the unfolding crisis in russia, and response to that audiotape of his 2024 rival.

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>> and tonight, just days after vladimir putin was challenged in an armed rebellion, ukrainians in the city of kramatorsk are cleaning up after an attack by russian missiles that destroyed parts of that city center. officials say that at least four people were killed and dozens more were injured, but they are still searching the rubble for more victims and officials say that russians deliberately targeted crowded parts of that city. kramatorsk is in the eastern

part of ukraine, just outside of areas occupied by russian troops and ben wedeman is there tonight. >> it took place at precisely 7:32 in the evening, we do not know what it was that struck, but it was clearly a very large missile by -- given the level of damage here. right behind me was a very popular restaurant and given the time of the strike there are probably many people inside. a witness inside the restaurant says that it was crammed with people when the missile struck. he saw rescuers pulling dozens of people out. slabs of concrete, claps-ing at the center of the restaurant. medics and firefighters continuing to pull people out hours after the strike and removing damaged cars from surrounding streets, clearing the way for more rescue work. air raid sirens warning of another strike, pausing the

search and rescue and moving along crowds looking for loved ones. >> ben wedeman, thank you very much. and a big question tonight is if putin will escalate the strikes like we saw against kramatorsk in the wake of prigozhin's insurrection cnn's erin burnett is in eastern ukraine for us. aaron, what are you learning? >> yes abby, of course right here in dnipro, another city in eastern ukraine, behind me it is pitch dark. this is a city of 1 million people and it lies in complete darkness, the street lights are off and even hear, sirens multiple times -- flying over the city. that horrible strike in commodores, a very real fear across much of ukraine, eastern ukraine here that this could happen anywhere to anyone and that is the fear tonight about what putin might do. today had a chance to speak to the foreign minister here in ukraine --

about whether ukraine knew about prigozhin's rebellion and what it actually means for the war on the front lines. here's part of what he told me. >> do you have any intelligence pointing to an insurrection like we saw? >> no, we did not have any specific information with the timeline of possible implementation of bogosian's plans. but, for us it has always been pretty obvious that it is just a matter of time when someone in russia will dare to challenge putin because we saw how's power and authority is shrinking and how russia is entering a very difficult turbulence. so prigozhin is just the first one who dared, but i have no doubt that others will follow one way or another. >> at the it is interesting that the minister told me that he does believe putin is still

the center of power in moscow, but he thinks that that is changing. they expect that there will be more instances, more people, not just prigozhin. they expect more of this to come. also though he said that if the rebellion had just lasted another 48 hours, 48 more hours, he thinks that that could've changed morale on the front line and really change the war. he said it would's been a force measure event, but for now ukraine is continuing to fight along the front lines, oregon boat ramp up in strikes, and is trying to take back territory and punch back on the counter offensive here in the south of ukraine. back to you. >> erin, thank you for that. joining me now from the state of new hampshire is former texas republican congressman will hurd, he is seeking the gop nomination in the 2024 race and he is also a former cia officer. congressman, thank you for joining us. look, you have been critical of biden's silence as this unfolded over the weekend, although many other experts did commend is distance, basically saying that the united states should stay away from appearing

to be involved in an internal russian dispute. so what was so wrong about biden's staying out of it? >> well, anytime that you have chaos and uncertainty, it's actually an opportunity. and what we should have been doing is working with our allies to double down on our support to ukraine in order to end this war quickly. that was the saying that i was critical of and this is an opportunity for us to make sure that the ukrainians have all the resources that they need and to stop worrying about this notion of escalation on our side, this notion that, if we provide more support to help the ukrainians, that we are going to see an escalation from the russian side. i think that the events of this weekend is an example of how, when vladimir putin was faced

with somebody coming down the highway trying to get him, what did he do? he actually capitulated. this is a lesson that we should take into account when it comes to supporting our friends in ukraine. >> the counter point to that is that this uprising, if you call it that, basically ended within hours. and putin today remains in power. so wouldn't the u.s. have, weighing in on this, have risk really moving too fast before the situation had revealed itself? >> look, the u.s., we've already made our decision that we are supporting ukrainians and we should be doing as much as we possibly can. this is an opportunity for us, we should have been ready if it happens again. i'm not talking about supporting prigozhin and his efforts, i'm talking about supporting ukrainians and doubling down on protecting themselves to be ready to protect against further missile strikes on their country. we have got to remember that it is a fraction of the cost for us to be helping the ukrainians solve this problem.

one of the other criticisms i have of the biden administration is tony blinken on sunday said that the united states goal is to help the ukrainians push the russians out of the territory that they have gathered, and that they have invaded since 16 months ago since back in february. i hope he misspoke, i've not seen any clarification of that. we should be supporting the ukrainians, to include crimea and donbas and if that is a biden position, i think that is the absolute wrong position. we should be helping our friends liberated their entire country. >> congressman, i do want to turn back to the united states. you have been, obviously a fierce critics of trump's handling of these classified documents. i wonder what your reaction was when you listened to the audio tape of him discussing it out

bedminster? >> look, it is sickening to hear the former leader of the free world being callous and disregarding his responsibility to protect secrets that men and women, people like my old colleagues that have put their lives on the line in order to collect. the fact that he was sharing information that is in the hands of our adversaries and could lead to the loss of life of the men and women in the armed services who are trying to protect us and ensure that we enjoy the freedoms we enjoy. it is unfortunate and, again, you are innocent until proven guilty, and president trump continuing to lie and jobs to kate about what he actually knew and saying that these documents were fake, it did not seem, based on the reaction of the people he was talking to, that they felt that that was just some kind of newspaper article. we are going to find out the details as this case progresses. but it was just a slap in the face to all the men and women

who put on a uniform or go into dangerous places in order to protect american security. >> i want to ask you about one of your other candidates who are running in this 2024 field, ron desantis. he is in new hampshire today as well. he was asked by a voter in new hampshire that trump violated the principle of a peaceful transfer of power on january six. listen to what he said. >> so, i was not anywhere near washington that day. i have nothing to do with what happened that day. obviously i did not enjoy seeing what happened, but we have got to go forward on the stuff. we cannot be looking backwards

and be mired in the past. >> congressman, does that answer satisfy you? >> no, of course, and that answer did not satisfy the person that asked the question. and here is one of the issues. if you are going to be running for president of the united states you should be clear on what your answers are to these events, and not be afraid to call it for what it is, and yes i actually believe that we should be articulating a vision of the future, but we should be clear about what happened in the past. donald trump lost the election was not stolen, it was not a tour that happened on january six, it was an attempt to stop the government and overthrow the government. we should be able to be clear on those things and not for frayed to speak up when you have the opportunity. we need leaders that are willing to be bold, that are going to be honest, and treat the voters with respect and that requires answering questions truthfully. >> congress men will hurd, it's

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>> how speaker kevin mccarthy is playing clean up this afternoon following these comments, which incited outrage across the maga world. >> it makes it complicated if he has got all of these trials and all of the stuff overhanging. >> it makes a complicated, but

it also helps him. >> can he win an election? >> yes i think you can. the question is if he is the strongest, i do not know that answer. >> just hours after that interview, mccarthy tried to walk those comments back saying that trump is stronger than he was in 2016, with me now is republican asa hutchinson. he assumed this agrees, he's running as president and as served as arkansas's governor. governor hutchinson, what does it say about your party that the house speaker cannot simply suggest that a former president who is twice impeached and roth lost his reelection has been indicted in a multiple times, may not be the strongest candidate for your party? >> well, speaker mccarthy is of course trying to hold his coalition together and whenever you look at what he has said, eagerly spoke with a quiet truth that there is an understanding among the republicans that we are in great shape for 2024 unless donald trump is leading the ticket, and that could cause us to lose both of the white house, but also look at the races down-ticket. we need independent voters, we need the suburban moms, we have to be able to go after those and if somebody is leading the trick it, that energizes the other side. you cannot -- you cannot only lose the white house, but you can also lose a

lot of other elections from senate to house members on down the ticket. so this is really important that the base, as they are doing and understands that we have got to have a leader that represents tech character, integrity, national voice, and someone that can reach out beyond simply the republican base. so that is what this 2024 election is about, in part, and i think it is very important and what speaker mccarthy said,

i think he is just speaking the truth as, everyone knows it. >> well, he spoke the truth for a few hours at least until he walked those comments back. but they came on the heels of this, which is this newly-, surfaced audiotape of former president trump discussing his handling of classified documents. do you, as someone who is,, running against him, plan to really bring this up to the voters and convince them that this should be something that is not an asset for trump in this primary? >> well, i do and it is important and whenever you look at the fact that you have a future, somebody who wants to be commander and chief, and cannot protect our nation's secrets. whatever happens in the criminal case, it is important to understand that that is a legitimate concern about electing our next president. somebody who knows how to handle classified information, our nation's secrets and not use bravado or not use them as

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♪ >> we have done in our politics is create a situation where we are electing idiots. [applause] and so i do not look at it through the lens of, is this what i should do or should not do, i look at it through the lens of how do we elect a serious people? i think electing a serious people cannot be partisan. >> we are back now with a gop presidential candidate asa hutchinson. some laughs in the room for that, but she is making a serious point due. you think it is a fair one? >> well of course i disagree about the characterization, i've been elected governor twice in arkansas and i look at my colleagues across the

country, they really have a public minded in his, they are very bright and incredible -- >> something tells me she was not talking about you. >> i know that, but by making the point that there are really good people that serve. even if you look at the ones running for president there are 12 republicans running, most of them are serious candidates that bring great credentials. i think her point obviously is that we need candidates and we need elected leaders that have courage, that stand for convictions, that speaks the truth, and do not always listen to the loudest voice in the room. that is what i believe the american people want and need, and also it reminds me that our founding fathers understood that we are all humans who are flawed, and so that is why there is a system of checks and balances. that is why we have the different branches of government, the united states supreme court today really affirmed the check and balance of a judicial -- judicial where they can overrule legislative laws that

are unconstitutional. that is a foundation in our country, those checks and balances are important but in this election we do need serious candidates. people of courage and integrity and that is why i think iowa and new hampshire is going to do a good job of sorting through that. >> we will see how this unfolds for you as well, governor asa hutchins, thank you very much. another presidential candidate has an awkward moment on the campaign trail today, a long history of campaign gaps. we will have that for you, next. our heritage is ingrained in our skin. and even when we metamorphosize into our new evolved form, we carry that spirit with us. because you can take alfa romeo out of italy. but you best believe,

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>> now caps on the campaign trail are not actually uncommon. they fall into a few different

camps here. there are the physical gaffs. verbal gaffes. >> and then we go to washington d.c. to take back the white house. [screaming] >> and then there are misstatements, miss pronunciations. all that part for the course. it is difficult to run for president, or any office, and you are expected to know about a lot. so today, yet another candidate heard that the hard way, listen to republican miami mayor and republican frances soares on the hugh hewitt radio show earlier today. >> will you be talking about the uyghurs in your campaign? >> the uyghurs? >> what is a uyghur? you're giving me homework. >> you really need to know about the uyghurs mayor. >> i will search uyghurs, i am a good learner, a fast learner.

>> the uyghurs, not the weevils, are the predominantly muslim ethnic minority in china that united states declared as the target of a genocide. something that i think a person who wants to be president might be expected to know. but suarez did release a statement after the fact that he was well aware of their suffering and he took a shot at to china. and he also said that he did not recognize the hosts pronunciation. it's hardly the first time that a candidate has made headlines over global issues, take 1976 as an example. >> there is no soviet domination of eastern europe -- >> i'm sorry, could i pause? did i understand you to say sir that the russians are not using eastern europe as their own sphere of influence and not occupying most of the countries there and making sure with our troops that it is a communist zone? >> now forward did not back

down there, but more recently one of the more infamous ones is this. >> what would you do if you are elected about aleppo? >> about aleppo, and what is aleppo? >> you are getting? >> no. >> okay, also during that campaign, libertarian gary johnson could not name a foreign leader that he admired and he could not name the leader of north korea, so cnn's own allison camerota asked him to explain. >> i just want to ask you about some of the foreign policy flubs that you've had publicly lately. first there was the aleppo moment where you didn't know what aleppo was, and then you couldn't name your favorite foreign leader. so what's going on with you and foreign affairs? >> but i guess because you can -- you can dot the i's and cross the t's on foreign leaders and geographic