new "wheel of fortune" host. seacrest will also serve as a consulting producer. he released a statement tuesday saying, quote, i'm truly humbled to be stepping into the footsteps of the legendary pat sajak. the host announced this mornnthe will be retiring after 41 seasons on the show. say jack and vanna white will the longest serving hosts in the game category. this fall, students from pre-k through 12th grade will be required to do two to five minutes of mindful breathing practices. mayor adams say the new program is intended to improve students' physical and mental health. >> thanks for joining me. i'm christine romans. "cnn this morning" starts right now. good morning, everyone. we're so glad you're with us. another busy morning on a lot of

fronts and a lot of people stuck in airports. >> which i think would be a huge problem because it's a big travel weekend and week and we're going to get into all that. breaking news, trump investigations, seems like a daily thing at this minute. >> we'll get to that. let's get started with five things to know for this wednesday. hours from now, investigators are going to interview georgia secretary of state as part of this federal probe into 2020 election interference. cnn has learned that fierce trump ally rudy giuliani was recently interviewed by the feds in the same case. donald trump, this morning, with a new defense about the audio of him talking about those secret documents. a senior russian general reportedly knew about the plans to march on moscow and rebel against russia's leadership. now how much support yevgeny prigozhin may have garnered within the top ranks. gridlock plaguing the east coast as storms rip through the country. the faa implementing multiple

ground stops leaving thousands stranded. dan on fire, america blanketed in smoke. from the great lakes to the northeast, tens of millions under air quality alerts. ryan seacrest takes the wheel. literally. he will step in to pat sajak's shoes of "wheel of fortune" starting next year. "cnn this morning" starts right now. ryan seacrest has a million jobs. >> i know. he's so good at all of them. i love this. >> super annoying. i'm grad you're like -- >> are you jealous? >> kind of, yeah. i would like to do "wheel of fortune." >> thanks so much -- >> you don't want to sit here with me at 6:00 in the snorng. >> stop. my favorite part of the day. >> can i say, i'm glad my husband is traveling and flew out on monday and back friday, what a nightmare. >> yeah. it feels like it developed very quickly. >> totally.

>> huge problem we're going to get into. this morning, the travel chaos continues at airports across the nation with a crushing wave of flight delays and cancellations before the busy july 4th weekend. severe storms and staffing shortages created a nightmare since saturday. this morning, more than 1,000 flights are already delayed or canceled. across the country we're seeing scenes like this, the newark new jersey airport where people have been stranded for days sleeping on cots, sleeping on the floor. the misery became even worse last night when thunderstorms forced ground stops at newark and two other major airports in the new york city area. >> there were a lot of kids. they didn't have no pampers. long lines. kids that were crying, sleeping on the floor. old people too sleeping on the floor. >> elderly couples behind me. these people can barely walk and now they're standing in line for ten hours. we're going to drive to minneapolis because they can't get us out until friday. >> people sleeping in cots,

openly weeping at cafe tables. it's like -- it's a human tragedy. really. >> in total, this week, roughly 34,000 flights, that's a huge number of flights that have been delayed. more than 7,000 canceled. jason carroll live at laguardia airport in new york. good morning to you. one of three airports you've got newark, jfk, laguardia, huge airports, they all had ground stops last night. what a mess. >> reporter: it is a total mess. here's how i would sum things up. just about a half hour ago, i spoke to a family right here at this terminal. they were supposed to take a flight to florida or spirit air. they came here this morning all excited and was told their flight was canceled and they would not get another flight until july 3rd. their holiday ruined and that is the scenario being played out over and over all across the country. air travel to the three major

new york metro airports grinding to a halt tuesday night putting a huge strain on domestic air travel, right on the brink of the fourth of july holiday. >> they pulled us back to the gate and said everybody off. >> no sleep. it's certainly been a test of patience. >> reporter: the faa says a ground stop for all flights going to all three airports is due to the thunderstorms in the new york area blocking arrival and departure routes. this video shot by one passenger arriving in new york monday night shows the severity of those storms. >> i'm traveling to maine for a work trip and unfortunately every flight has been delayed. i don't have my luggage. it's been over two days and i still haven't even seen maine. >> reporter: the problem started days ago when storms hit near major airline hubs in the mid-atlantic and east coast. that coupled with air traffic control staffing shortages, created a ripple effect

nationwide. on tuesday, more than 7,000 flights were delayed and more than 2,000 canceled. on monday, nearly 9,000 flights were delayed nationwide. the frustration is palpable at newark and laguardia airports. >> he yeah. five hours on the plane, took us off. the pilot timed out. two more crew members timed out. started pushing back each flight 45 minutes, 45 minutes, lost another pilot to time out. finally canceled the flight around 7:30. >> reporter: passengers were subjected to impossibly long lines and were left desperately trying to rebook flights with few options. >> our rebooking that they gave us by default is for july 2nd. >> our flight got canceled. >> talked to other passengers, even when they tried to book it all filled. >> reporter: the process leaving this passenger defeated. >> people have planned these vacations for like a long time.

it's been a long couple days. >> reporter: many passengers angry with the airlines for not offering more support, particularly united airlines, which saw the most delays. >> i will never fly with united again. >> reporter: united airlines ceo scott kirby blamed the faa for the delays saying in a memo to staff, the faa failed us this weekend. >> reporter: the question now is, when will the faa and these airlines get back on track? the weather is supposed to be better tomorrow and friday. that will certainly help, but airline industry experts are recommending that anyone who is scheduled to travel over the next few days, call your carrier first. guys, back to you. >> jason carroll, thank you very much. well, this morning, we are tracking really significant developments in two federal investigations into former president donald trump. there are new signs prosecutors are nearing charging decisions in the 2020 election

interference probe. hours from now, special counsel jack smith's team will speak with georgia secretary of state brad raffensperger for the first time. raffensperger is a republican who pushed back against trump and famously when trump demanded this. >> so, look, all i want to do is this, i just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have, because we won the state. >> sounded will never not be surreal. we have new cnn reporting that federal investigators interviewed rudy giuliani as part of the same investigation. multiple sources telling cnn that meeting took place in recent weeks, but declined to say what specifically investigators focused on in the interview. this comes as there are new developments in the classified documents case. trump trying out new defenses after the audio of him seeming

to show off documents he called secret. went to bring in sara murray. sara, you broke the giuliani news and you have been all over the different elements -- >> this is what sara murray does. >> it's annoying to compete against to some degree. >> he's jealous of ryan seacrest this morning and sara murray's reporting. >> i frame them in the same way in terms of talent level. the election interference, i want to start there. the meetings we've seen there, and i think the developments that lead a lot of people to think something is coming in terms of a potential indictment, what do we know right now? >> i think what we've seen is a very steady stream of witnesses going before the grand jury, but also investigators calling these people in for interviews, some new witnesses that they have never talked to before, and it is, as sources familiar with the investigation say, we do appear to be getting closer to some kind of charging decisions. we don't know what that will look like. in the case of rudy giuliani, this is interesting because he's, obviously, a prominent figure who is around donald

trump, around the 2020 election, and he was subpoenaed months and months ago for information about the payments he received around 2020 and it's only recently he went the and talked to federal investigators. we don't know exactly what investigators asked him about, but we do know that other witnesses have been asked about what former trump attorneys were up to who were spreading election lies. we also know that prosecutors have been very focused recently on this fake elect tore scheme and rudy giuliani played a key role in overseeing these ehe tors across seven battleground states. it's hard to know what is happening here in the late stages, but it does feel like we are in the late stages of this investigation for jack smith around january 6th, guys. >> what's really interesting in the other jack smith probe, on mar-a-lago documents, is that trump is now responding to this audio that cnn obtained, right, we played it for everyone this week, and his surprise, his response i should say has been unsurprising. >> yeah.

i think we've seen donald trump offer a lot of different explanations for why he just happened to have all of these classified documents around. take a listen to his latest explanation for what may have been going on in that audiotape where he seems to be pretty vividly describing a classified document to a bunch of people who don't have security clearances. >> i had a whole desk full of lots of papers and mostly newspaper articles, copies of magazines, copies of different plans, copies of stories having to do with many, many subjects, and what was said was absolutely fine and very perfectly. we did nothing wrong. >> trump also said it was just bravado and there was no document. the indictment makes clear, doesn't say maybe he showed this document to people, it describes trump as showing a classified document to people. we'll see what other explanations he provides between now and the trial. guys? >> sara murray, thanks so much. former president trump did not only speak to fox, he also

spoke to abc news on his plane yesterday. this is how he defended the tape. quote i would say it was bravado if you want to know the truth. i was talking and just holding up papers and talking about them, but i had no documents. i didn't have any documents. shelby was on the plane joins us with max rose former congressman from new york and joey jackson, our legal analyst and criminal defense attorney. you were on the plane. i was surprised to read donald trump describing himself as acting with bravado. other than that the response is unsurprising. >> i think the other thing you played that fox news clip where he's offering up an explanation of i just have all of these documents on my desk strewn across and what was interesting is when we were interviewing him, he had a stack of papers know him and it was newspapers and copies of his speech and printouts of articles that his aides wanted to make sure they got on his desk and he took a

stack of those, a chunk of those papers, and put them on his desk as he was talking to us, and kind of physically demonstrated how he was -- look, i was just taking these papers, it was not documents. one of the notable things we asked what he meant when he told fox news he had plans, and he told us that what he means by plans is, he had golf plans, and he had building plans, physical plans for the construction of golf courses and buildings. >> you're laughing. i don't understand why that doesn't pass muster. >> it doesn't scare with you? >> first of all, this does bring us back and at this point this guy is collecting indictments like they're beanie babies in the '90s. it's difficult to sort through everything. but it does also bring us back to what he said after the call regarding ukraine. it was a perfectly fine phone call. and now he's rolling out that same line here again. i think we're focusing on the

wrong line. he does reconfirm, yet again, that these documents were classified and that he did not have the authority to declassify them. let's assume he's telling the truth, which he, obviously, is not, he still says he has classified documents that we do know the federal government is demanding that he return. these are not just your run-of-the-mill classified documents. these are the highest level of classification regarding the highest level of military secrets that we have, and if i were his lawyers, i would defer to our legal expert, of course, i would be cringing that he's still talking about this case in this regard. >> when you're in a hole you stop digging, right. the reality is, and what makes lawyers uncomfortable, is that you advise your client not to speak and this is the very reason. you have shifting narratives, you're saying things that ultimately are going to be used against you to bury you. you don't do it. i don't mind so much from a legal perspective when you talk about it's a witch hunt and this is outrageous, out of context,

but when you start getting into the it details it becomes a problem. trials are about narratives, right and his narrative, which one is it going to be? is it a, b, or c? we tell jurors, this is going to, i think we can confidently say, he's not a guy that wants to take a plea, there's a lot of explaining to do. when you tell jurors dwrurs common sense and good judgment, does it comport with reality that you're referring to things that are secret and classified, but they just happened to be newspapers and then you get on a plane, excuse me, and you have props next to you and you explain to media and the press this is just like it was. it has to pass credibility. the issue is whether it will do that. >> here is what his former attorney parlatore said last night explaining where he thinks trump's defense could go in this. here he is. >> well, certainly you can hear the rustling of papers there,

but as to what he's specifically holding, the tape is, in my opinion, is unclear and you can, when you hear the sound of his voice, he does seem to be acting with a bit of bravado and playing to the crowd. >> trying to make it sort of a gray thing there, not black and white. what i think is interesting, congressman, is that, you know, it's been interesting to follow because of your party versus who you represented in your district in new york. a lot of trump supporters. how do you think this and these varied explanations play with them? >> that actually depends upon how his opponents in the republican primary act. and that 's why this has been insane. they are defying every law of political reality. imagine in 1999 if george bush gets caught with classified documents that harm our national security. could we ever imagine john mccain coming to his defense?

that would be political malpractice. the more that these opponents in the republican primary fail to actually say anything, the more actually that the base rallies around donald trump because it doesn't seem like he did anything wrong. you know, the other thing here is that, as his base feels as if he is being ganged up on, they do gravitate towards him. that's actually a natural human emotion, and that's why it's so important here, both from the democratic perspective as well as in this republican primary, it be established just how serious this is. this isn't a matter of politics or morality, this is a matter of national security. >> can you take us inside the plane. for people being on a plane with the former president as he is the leading political candidate in a primary who has been indicted twice over the course of the last several months, what was the atmosphere on the plane and what was it like talking to him? >> he was in a very good mood

throughout most of the day. he was traveling to new hampshire. he had two events there. he was received very well. he opened up his volunteer office headquarters in new hampshire. i was told on the way back if he was in a good mood he might play music. he did that. when we sat down for the interview and started talking about these legal issues, he at first seemed interested in playing ball and wanted to get his message out and wanted to get his explanation out, so much so, that at one point he looked at us and say are you understanding this? when he eventually cut the interview short because he didn't like a question and i think just decided he was done answering the legal questions, he looked at his aides and said, make sure they get this right. i think that's notable because even while he is saying he did nothing wrong and this is all a witch hunt, he's also in some

sense, he really wants reporters to get his side of the story out. he really wants to talk about whatever the latest explanation is. >> i'm just going to guess that playlist is the same playlist. >> "ymca". >> yes. >> tried and true. rallies, mar-a-lago. >> why break a good thing? >> good thing is one way to describe it. stick with us. we're coming back to all of you. there's more stories on that front to get to, but also this, a senior russian general reportedly knew about the wagner group's rebellion plan against russia's military leadership. how much support did yevgeny prigozhin have inside the top ranks? trump and desantis attacking each other, deepening their rivalry in new hampshire. that's ahead. more sweating all night... ...or blasting the air conditioning. because the tempur-breeze feels up to 10° cooler,r, all night long. for a limiteted time, save $500 on all-new tempur-breeze

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past weekend. this as "the new york times" reports american intelligence officials report a senior russian official had knowledge of the group's plan to rebel. they're working to determine how much help the wagner group had, including from russia's top commander in ukraine. joining us now to unpack these developments, cnn military analyst and retired air force colonel sed ric leighton. i appreciate your time. i want to start with the first thing that i thought when i saw this news alert last night, which is, this would seem to be a great story for u.s. intelligence to try to get out there to cause some issues within the ranks at a very uncertain moment. i want to get into the details of what this might mean, but your read on that, whether or not this was an intentional effort to try to drive more uncertainty at an uncertain moment in moscow? >> yeah, good morning. i think that's a distinct possibility. what you're looking at here is a very paranoid group of people in russia and the russian leadership right now, and this

just feeds into that paranoia, and i think it's entirely possible that leak was done in a way to fuel that paranoia in a very consistent fashion. >> now on the actual details itself, the general that was identified in "the new york times" story is somebody who is known to have a relationship with yevgeny prigozhin, but he's also, i think, a respected and to some degree considered by u.s. officials to be one of the more competent military leaders in what has been a rather incompetent operation over the course of the last year and a half. what's your sense of what this would mean, if it is true, inside the russian military leadership? >> well, it would be a real blow to the russian military leadership because the gentle is known not only for his toughness, but also for his competence. as you mentioned, he was the one who would view russian forces from the region before the

ukrainian forces moved into the city of kherson and was able to accomplish that, in spite of shortages and the logistic problems that the russian military had. so the general is a pretty unique character, brutal but competent, and respected by his troops. very similar to prigozhin in that regard. >> when you saw i think one of the telling things about the weekend is when the general had a video kind of urging prigozhin and wagner forces to pull back, sitting there kind of with a submarine gun in his -- sub-machine godunp and appearedo be somewhat of a forced message, what was your thought? >> i think the general is a very interesting guy in the sense that he looks to which way the wind is blowing. he, you know, has very astute political antenna. he has had to have that to survive the russian military service that he's had throughout the years.

so when i saw that video, it was very -- my reaction was similar to yours. i looked at it and thought, yeah, it there's something not quite right about that. the fact that that video came out very early in this whole process was basically friday morning our time when we saw it, and that was quite early before the columns of the wagner group moved up to moscow. it was clear and figured out that the rebellion, this mutiny, wasn't going to succeed, and he put his foot forward in that regard and it was clear he wanted to play both sides in this issue, i think. >> the video coming out before we saw anything from sergei shoigu, before we saw anything or heard anything from president vladimir putin. colonel leighton, thanks very much. >> you bet. all right. haze from canadian wildfires

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welcome back to "cnn this morning." more than 80 million people from the midwest to the east coast are under air quality alerts this morning, as smoke from burning canadian wildfires once again sweeps south. chicago is currently the third most polluted city in the world. here's a live look at the windy city with detroit and milwaukee. air quality alerts issued for seven states including illinois, michigan and maryland as well as partial parts of states including kansas, ohio, pennsylvania, and new york. let's go our meteorologist jennifer grey. it was so surreal to experience here in new york city a few weeks ago and people are feeling it across the country again. >> yeah. they really are. the smoke is really going pretty far down to the south. a live look at pittsburgh, where they are under very unhealthy air quality. you can see all the red and purple dots that indicate unhealthy to very unhealthy.

at one point yesterday chicago did have the worst air quality in the world. this is all going to sink down to the south. we have poor air quality alerts in all the states you just mentioned. you can see those yellows and oranges. the smoke is really going to be bad for one more day, and then start to dissipate. that's the good news. look how far south it's sinking, all the way down into portions of the mid south, the southeast, could have hazy skies. definitely improving by the time we get to tomorrow. we have excessive heat warnings and advisories where the feels like temperature could be 110 to 115 for a lot of areas across the deep south. we're going to stay in the triple digits for portions of texas, louisiana, into the southeast, as that heat expands, poppy. >> jennifer grey, thank you for walking us through it. this morning, new video shows the moment police in france shot and killed a 17-year-old during a traffic stop, but first, we want to warn you you might find the next video disturbing.

you can see an officer pointing his gun through the window before a gunshot is heard and the car takes off and crashes. the officer accused of shooting the teen has been detained on suspicion of culpable homicide. two passengers were in the car at the time of the shooting. one fled while the other was arrested and later released. the shooting is triggered violent protests, cars and trash cans set on fire, bus stops destroyed. demonstrators also set off fireworks near the police station. riot police used tear gas to break up protesters and about 31 people have been arrested. trump and desantis have held dueling events in new hampshire and didn't take long for the jabs. >> he's holding an event right now to compete with us. there's only one problem, nobody showed up. >> just a little preview of what's to come as the republican field takes shape. and first, house speaker kevin mccarthy questioned whether trump was a, quote, strong enough candidate, then he backtracked quickly.

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. if i tell you i'm going to do something, i'm not just saying that for an election. >> he's holding an event right now to compete with us. there's only one problem, nobody showed up. >> florida governor ron desantis and former president donald trump trading jabs at each other during dueling rallies in new hampshire. the two 2024 candidates crisscrossed the state targeting each other as they talked to voters. jessica dean is at the table with us. good morning. >> good morning. >> there were people at desantis -- >> i was going to say it. >> just let -- just let the reporter report on it. >> he's having a hard time letting go of the reporting. >> he's a reporter at heart. >> kidding. yes. >> yes. well people were at ron

desantis' stop as phil noted. they were in the state of new hampshire. of course to remind everyone, a key early state with its own personality. phil, you talked about this yesterday morning and heard you say you have to do retail politics in new hampshire. they expect you to talk to them. they really expect you to interact with the voters. ron desantis was there going up against this kind of collective wisdom he's not the best retail politician, and so he's now for the first time we're seeing him take questions from voters and talk about that, interact with them from the stage, he's been talking to them, take the questions from the stage, and then, of course, you have former president donald trump who is also in the state. this is the first time they were circling each other in this tiny state of new hampshire. desantis, going more indirectly at trump saying he wants to break the swamp, not drain the swamp, trump had a chance to drain it and didn't it. you have to break it. here's what -- >> break not drain. >> let's hear what the former president said.

>> somebody said how come you only attack him? because he's in second place. why don't you attack senators bec -- attack others? because they're not in second place. soon i don't think he will be in second place and i will be attacking somebody else. >> this is what we see develop. trump and his campaign going directly at saptsdesantis as we there. desantis will go after him but only when asked directly. from the stump he doesn't name him in a stump speech. he will say things like i want to break the swamp, not drain it, others have gone before me, that sort of thing. when voters or the media will ask him directly about trump that's when he will take him on. i expect to see that expand until maybe we see these two on a debate stage in a few months? tbd. >> how do you break a swamp? >> that's a great question. >> i want to make sure i wasn't missing something -- >> it's a different verb. >> to that point, are they going to be on a debate stage

question? >> that's a good question. i don't think trump or at least some members of his team see incentive for him to be on a debate stage. so to be determined, but i would not be surprised if trump bows out of the stage. i think his big argument is why would i give these guys a chance to go directly at me when i'm so far ahead? >> isn't a bad argument when you're plus 32 in every poll. >> to that point, a lot of trump supporters up in arms over what house speaker kevin mccarthy said about is trump strong enough or the strongest to win. let's play it. >> could he win an sfelection? >> yeah, he can. the question is, is he the strongest to win the election, i don't know that answer, can anybody beat biden. yeah. can biden beat other people? yeah. biden can beat them. it's on any given day. >> you served in congress. >> did you start your stop watch when you saw that sound? how long is this going to take.

>> sometimes politicians make the mistake of being honest. in so many ways, this trumpian base is so fervent and passionate that the second that you criticize him as a republican, the backlash can actually be extraordinary. what i think some of these republican officials fail to acknowledge, though, is that actually is not the majority of even the republican primary base. maybe it's a third, but in politics, passion is often stronger than numbers. i have no doubt that kevin mccarthy's office, both his government office as well as his political office, is getting e-mails, text messages, phone calls, letters from both people they know and people they never heard of, and that's why he backtracked so quickly. >> and mccarthy, trump actually had mccarthy's article on his desk on the way -- on the plane home which i thought was -- >> that is -- >> about the backtracking one.

>> interesting. >> it is interesting because the whole field is counting on some cover, right, from people like kevin mccarthy, to say look, everyone supports trump, this would be like a republican talking point, everyone supports trump, however, who can win in a general election? that's what ron desantis, that's cate he's certainly making and these other contenders want to make as well. it was interesting to see him say that. of course, backtrack. >> can i ask, what are we not seeing? shelby is always good at answering this question. >> see if i can do it. >> poppy has done me out, the bar is low at this point in time. when you're on the trail, there are narratives that are set and top line things that we're always talking about right now as we wait for this to kind of fully kick into high gear. what are you kind of observing like stands out to you that maybe we're missing right now. >> i think the thing that has stood out to me the most is that the voters i've watched are truly interested in learning about the other candidates.

they're not deadset on trump. look, there is a part of that primary electorate that is never going to move, right. those always trump people are immovable. however, i think even people who, perhaps, feel like they think they want to support trump are out there and very curious about these other candidates. there is trump fatigue out there. it's just, can they find someone they believe can win? >> interesting. >> they want a winner. >> they want a winner. >> thank you very much. jes, shelby, max. stay close. the supreme court rejecting a theory that would have reshaped american elections. we'll tell you what it means for you and your vote ahead. plus this -- ♪ ♪ i want to ♪ ♪ want me ♪ ♪ girl you got me ♪ >> it's the reason max rose is here. singer jason derulo will join us on set. his secrets to success and why you should sing your name out loud. poppy harlow. >> do it, phil.

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is the most significant case for america's democracy since our founding almost 250 years ago. >> just think about such a well-known republican former federal judge like michael ludsic saying that, praising the supreme court's decision to reject a fringe gop theory that could have transformed america's elections. yesterday the justices voted 6-3 to reject the independent state legislature theory that would have given state lawmakers enormous power over federal elections. judge ludsig who advinesed former vice president on his actions on january 6th calling the ruling a win for democracy. some of former president trump's allies tried to use this fringe theory to overturn the 2020 election which is being investigated, that effort. it all ties together.

let's bring in our supreme court analyst live in washington, joey jackson back at the table. joan, this is huge. explain why this matters for every american who votes. >> it really does matter because it gets to the core of who will decide whether election rules are fair. in north carolina the question was, was this redistricting map fair or was it a partisan gerrymander that impinged on voters' rights? we're going to have many cases in 2024, just as we had in 2020, about fairness at the ballot box, and it comes down to who actually will oversee that, and as you said, this case tested whether state legislatures would have complete, independent control, over those rules or whether state court judges interpreting the protections of their own state constitutions could review those, and what supreme court ruled, is that state courts have a duty here. chief justice john roberts

pointed to the history and tradition of judicial review, not just at the federal level, dating all the way back to marbury versus madison, but state level, saying federal courts must not abandon their duty to exercise judicial review when state legislatures act pursuant to their election clause authority, they engage in law making subject to typical restraints on the exercise of state power, such power, so this was a really important decision that actually plays right to what our democracy has always practiced, it was that this very extreme theory had been put forward in 2020 and it was a chance that it could actually affect what happened in 2024, but the chief got six votes to stop it. >> yeah. you know, joey, joan makes a great point, the most extreme was cast aside. if you read the fine print of the decision, however, there are

some elements in there that even gave some of those celebrating yesterday some pause about what it may mean going forward. what are they? >> i'm confident and here's why i will, phil, and i think this is what judge meant when he talked about democracy. legislatures, every state has them, and state legislatures you're elected by the public. as a result of that those state legislatures you want them to make important decisions, but you want them making decisions within the confines of the law. what this opinion essentially said was that the state legislature should not have unfettered discretion to do what it wants with respect to the electoral process, and it has to be checked, right, by the state court system. why should we be in a scenario where we have the state legislature making a decision that cannot otherwise -- it would be immunized, right, from all attack, and so essentially what's going to happen now, is that if they overstep, phil, an poppy, you're going have the state courts that can now come in and otherwise assess the misstep and right the wrong.

i think that's the significance. >> joan, one of the things that i think is giving some supporters this decision pause is what roberts wrote in that opinion about federal courts. rick hassan, election law expert at ucla, writes moore, cate -- the case has killed off the independently legislature theory but it gives the courts a license to do mischief. explain. >> that's exactly right and that's good to focus on as we go forward because while the supreme court said states can have the power to review, they do not -- state courts do not have free reign and what professional hassan and others have suggested is maybe this might give, frankly, federal courts and the supreme court itself free reign. what the opinion said is that state court themselves cannot go beyond the ordinary bounds of their judicial roles, but the people who will be deciding that will be federal court justices and ultimately the u.s. supreme court. so this is all going to end up

back in their hands when we have election rule controversies. >> it's fascinating. so many people thought this case would get dismissed because of issues about how the north carolina supreme court changed, but you had people like judge ludiq and others, saying it has to be decided, so important in the special counsel's investigation. >> so true. >> yeah. and joan and joey have done great coverage. the acute nature of things we're watching play out in real-time at this point. joan, busy week for you, joey jackson, thanks, guys. flights, delays and cancellations worsening at new york city area airports after severe storms, the hardest hit destinations straight ahead. good fortune seems to follow ryan seacrest everywhere. his next hosting gig has everyone's heads spinning. ♪ you spin me round ♪ ♪ voltaren. the jojoy of movement.

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thousands of flights were canceled across the country. >> it was bad. we were frustrated because we've been awake for 24 hours. >> i will never fly with united again. >> united ceo says the faa, frankly, failed us this weekend. >> you have airplanes and crews all over the place and not at the airports they're supposed to be. my voice was fine. what did i say wrong? i did nothing wrong. >> this is another example of trump's success with flat out lying. >> that is part of the mentality in how republicans stand up for him. they see how he's doing in the polls and weathered other scandals. >> the question is, is h