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thousands of flights were canceled across the country. >> it was bad. we were frustrated because we've been awake for 24 hours. >> i will never fly with united again. >> united ceo says the faa, frankly, failed us this weekend. >> you have airplanes and crews all over the place and not at the airports they're supposed to be. my voice was fine. what did i say wrong? i did nothing wrong. >> this is another example of trump's success with flat out lying. >> that is part of the mentality in how republicans stand up for him. they see how he's doing in the polls and weathered other scandals. >> the question is, is he the
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strongest to win the election? i don't know that answer. >> a cnn exclusive, rudy giuliani talking to federal prosecutors about attempts to overturn the 2020 election. >> investigators have been looking recently into the fake lector scheme and giuliani played a role in overseeing the lectors around seven battleground states. >> clearly there has been an uptick in investigative activity over the past few weeks. "the new york times" reporting a senior russian general had advanced knowledge of prigozhin's planned rebelp i don't know. >> the times report is working to determine if general sergei surovikin was in the planning. >> there is no doubt that prigozhin was alone. ♪ i want to ♪ >> pop star jason derulo joins "cnn this morning" with his new book. >> in the book i say, i believe in you, so you should believe in you as well. i wanted to write this book for those dreamers out there that were very much like myself, that was looking for a way forward.
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cannot wait for that. >> were you doing like a shoulder shimmy during that? >> i dance to jason derulo. he is the soundtrack of my 30s, something like that. >> okay. we're going to talk to him later. he's got a new great book out. we want to focus on big news on several fronts, importantly, travel. this is a big travel weekend coming up and there is travel chaos mounting at airports across the nation. with a crushing wave of flight delays and cancellations before that busy july 4th weekend. severe storms and staffing shortages have been creating a nightmare since saturday. a ground stop just announced at boston logan airport because of thunderstorms. that comes after all flights were halted at all three major airports in the new york city area last night. this morning, more than 1500 flights are already delayed or canceled across the country. we're seeing scenes like this one at the airport in newark where people have been stranded for days, sleeping on cot, sleeping on the floor, travelers
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tell cnn the situation has been desperate. >> there are people sleeping on cots, people like openly weeping at cafe tables. >> a lot of kids, they didn't no pampers, like i said, long lines, kids that were crying, sleeping on the floor. old people too. sleeping on the floor. >> there's elderly couples behind me. these people can barely walk and now they're standing in lines for ten hours. >> in total, this week, about 34,000 flights have been delayed, more than 7,000 canceled. let's go to jason carroll who joins us at laguardia airport, one of the three big new york area airports that had a ground stop last night. how about this morning? >> well, look, we've seen a couple of planes taking off and landing here at laguardia, but there's, poppy, going to be a lot more of that to make up for what happened out here yesterday and the day before. this, as thousands of passengers all over the country, are still dealing with severely delayed or canceled flights.
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air travel to the three major new york metro airports grinding to a halt tuesday night, putting a huge strain on domestic air travel, right on the brink of the fourth of july holiday. >> like, pulled us back to the gate and said, everybody off. >> no sleep. it's certainly been a test of patience. >> reporter: the faa says a ground stop for all flights going to all three airports is due to the thunderstorms in the new york area blocking arrival and departure routes. this video shot by one performing arriving in new york monday night shows the severity of those storms. >> i'm traveling to maine for a work trip and unfortunately every flight has been delayed. i don't have my luggage. it's been over two days and i still haven't even seen maine. >> reporter: the problem started days ago, when storms hit near major airline hubs in the mid-atlantic and east coast.
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that, coupled with air traffic control staffing shortages, created a ripple effect nationwide. on tuesday, more than 7,000 flights were delayed and more than 2,000 canceled. on monday, nearly 9,000 flights were delayed nationwide. the frustration is palpable at newark and laguardia airports. >> yeah. five hours on the plane, took us off. pilots timed out. two more crew members timed out. started pushing back each flight 45 minutes, 45 minutes. lost another pilot to time out. finally canceled the flight around 7:30. >> reporter: passengers were subjected to impossibly long lines, and were left desperately trying to rebook flights with few options. >> our rebooking that they gave us by default is for like july 2nd. >> our flight got canceled. >> talking to other passengers they're saying when they tried to book it, all filled. >> the whole process leaving this passenger defeated. >> people have planned these
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vacations for like a long time. sorry. it's been a long couple days. >> reporter: many passengers angry with the airlines for not offering more support. particularly united airlines which saw the most delays. >> i will never fly with united again. >> reporter: united airlines ceo scott kirby blamed the faa for the delays, saying in a memo to staff, the faa failed us this weekend. so what is clear is that it's going to take a little while for this system to right itself. already this morning, the faa is reporting you can expect possible delays in some of the following places, new york city metro area, orlando, boston, minneapolis, and south florida. phil? >> jason carroll, long day and week ahead. thanks so much. also this morning we're tracking very big developments in two federal investigations into former president donald trump.
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there are new signs that prosecutors are nearing charging decisions on the 2020 election interference investigation. that, of course, separate from the documents investigation where indictments are already brought. hours from now special counsel jack smith's team will speak to georgia secretary of state brad raffensperger for the first time. raffensperger is a republican who pushed back when trump demanded this -- >> so look, all i want to do is this, i just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have, because we won the state. >> we also have exclusive new cnn reporting that federal investigators interviewed rudy giuliani region as part of the same investigation. multiple sources tell cnn that meeting took place some time in the last few weeks, but they declined to say what specifically investigators focused on in the interview. this comes as there are new developments in the classified documents case as well. former president trump is now trying out a new defense after
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cnn obtained the 2021 audio of him seeming to show off those documents that he called secret. >> i had a whole desk full of lots of papers and mostly newspaper articles, copies of magazines, copies of different plans, copies of stories, having to do with many, many subjects, and what was said was absolutely fine and very perfectly. we did nothing wrong. >> you heard him talk about plans there. the former president later told semafor he was talking about where golf course and building plans that he had were, and he also defended saying this on the audiotape like this, quote, i would say it was bravado, that's how he described it, if you want to know the truth, it was bravado. i was talking and just holding up papers and talking about them, but i had no documents. i didn't have any documents. closed quote. with us, cnn political commentator and former trump white house director, and national analyst and politics reporter for the new york sometimes and elie honig, legal
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analyst and former attorney for the southern district of new york and jessica dean. it's very good to have all of you. let's start under the law. >> my head is spinning from trump's newest defenses. >> where we ended on trump's newest defenses. >> they are contradicted by and serious tension with the tape we heard. first of all golf course plans. he's not talking about -- >> and building plans. >> he's not talking about anything to do with golf course or building. look at the context of these recordings and see they're very clearly talking about an issue with general mark milley, the plans to attack iran. nothing to do with golf courses. it's simple it almost sounds sill throw rebut it. the second argument is one we contemplated yesterday. he may say i was bluffing. this is what i do. i was shuffling papers around. again, though, there's a certain tension with what he says. he says look, look here, look at this. so even if he is bluffing, i want to make this point, if doj
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cannot recover the document, what he says on the tape is important and relevant to his intent to the fact that he's giving out information that's classified and sensitive. >> that's a key point right there. if he is talking about and acknowledging the existence of classified plans to strike iran that is a violation of handling classified information. you hear the papers rustling so it's hard to believe and the aide comes -- >> cites a four-page document they appear to be discussing in this meeting with the biographers. >> right. by the way, i was just having advised trump struck by the fact he's leaving into this, bravado defense now. >> that surprised me too. >> i would never have been able to convince him to say something like that. it's almost -- >> why? >> not somebody who tends to admit fault within his own character or his need to look macho and look powerful in that he's somebody who might feign those things for the way he's perceived. i was struck by it. it signals to me his defense
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team was like, you stepped in it. we have to walk this back so far. this is the only thing he could come up with. he didn't give them a lot of angles to work with. >> listen to them, clearly, according to you surprising. >> quite surprising. >> i wanted to ask you, our political director david chalian flagged this for us a couple days ago and i've been fascinated by it, i would never listens to your podcast -- >> it's really good. >> it's very, very good. but this sound in particular that i want to play and talk about on the back end. take a listen. >> you know, is anyone above the klaw? no. there are is some i dells above the law and the ideal we look at our politicians and we go, all right, we're not going to start this back and forth, but we start jailing our political opponents. >> yes. >> i think that's where we're headed and that scares me more than whether or not trump should have given back a piece of paper. >> that's critical. first off ignore the accent. that is an evangelical pastor in
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des moines, iowa. capture something i think is very easy to not understand if you aren't talking to supporters or republican primary voters on the ground, why? >> i mean, i think it's the sentiment that really brings people back to donald trump, if you're one of those republican voters. this is a pastor in suburbs of des moines, big evangelical church and hosted ron desantis. he described himself as 51-49 desantis over trump. when asking about the federal indictment, the weekend after that, saying how come that is not itself disqualifying for you, they see donald trump as a figure that has pushed them culturally, as a culture warrior, he has done too much for them to give up is what the pastor was saying, and he found the kind of what he thought the indictments were doing was kind of a liberal attack on that figure. so what he is laying out there is a way to excuse any of the kind of factual claims that come out of these indictments.
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it did not matter that donald trump -- he was kind of acknowledging there the possibility of guilt, the likelihood of guilt. that was irrelevant, frankly, because he felt that what would come after that, that what would bring the next year, the way it changes the tone of the race, that that that inherently should be a higher priority than the facts of the case. that is one that flies in the face of the rule of law, flies in the face of tradition that we have seen over the years, but for the people who are in the wool kind of trump cultural warriors or backing desantis who has embraced that type of message that's where they've landed on this. >> there's quite a bit of truth in there. i think regardless of what a person did, there will be a natural reluctance, i'm thinking about this from a jury perspective, a natural reluctance to lock up the former president and that will be an issue because your guest on the podcast really reflects on something a lot of people feel. again, putting aside the merits of the case which i think are strong you have to be worried
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about that. >> someone who seemed worried for a few minutes yesterday was kevin mccarthy. here's what he said. >> could he win an election? >> yeah, he can. >> is he the strongest to win the election. i don't know the answer. but can anybody beat biden? yeah, neighbor can beat biden. can biden beat other people? yes. biden can beat them on any given day. >> striking aside from the fact that he said that, joe kernen didn't ask him if he's str strongest. kevin mccarthy offered that up. >> it's the first time we've heard him kind of open up in that way. look, trump and his allies sincerely believe they helped hand kevin mccarthy the speaker's gavel. go back to january when it was vote after vote and twisting arms, they believe like he owes them, and he's been pretty in lockstep with them for all of it. so to hear this yesterday i think it caught a lot of people's attention. it certainly caught the trump campaign's attention, the former president's attention, but it
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caught the attention of the rest of the 2024 field. as i was saying earlier, they are waiting for cover. they are waiting for the rest of let's call it the establishment, but we're not using it in the traditional sense, but the house speaker, people on the hill, you know, trump still has such a lock, especially on the house side, with the house gop, and they are waiting for a break there. all of those candidates where they can get a little light, a little light between the house gop and trump and even some people in the senate. the senate, you know, you hear more from gop senators, they're clearly ready, a lot of them like tim scott. they know him well. they're ready for somebody else, more so on that side than they would be in the house. it was interesting to hear that and see how quickly he started to kind of walk that back. >> like three and a half hours. it wasn't a step by step. it was a hammer. >> it never happened. >> yeah. >> didn't happen. thank you. stick around. more with you. smoke from the canadian wildfires, it is back, this time
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causing chicago to experience the worst air quality, the worst air quality in the world. how long until conditions are expected to improve, next. >> officials learning a russian general may have known about the wagner boss yevgeny prigozhin's plans ahead of his revolt against russian leadership. what that could mean about vladimir putin's support within his own ranks. that's next. "cnn this morning" brought to you by -- there arare places you'd like to be. like here. and here. not souch here. if you havchronic kidney disease, farxiga can help you keep livinlife. ♪ farxiga ♪ and faiga reduces thrisk of kidney failure, which can lead to dialysis. farxiga can cause serious side effects including dehydration, urinary tract or genital yeast infections in women and men, and low blood sugar. ketoacidosis is a serious side effect
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of americans from the midwest to the east coast are under air quality alerts this morning as canada experiences its worst wildfire season on record. smoke from the raging fires is drifting south. this is what chicago's skyline looked like yesterday. the city had the worst air quality in the world at one point. smoke covered most of this major bridge that connects upper and lower peninsulas in northern michigan and nasa released satellite image yesterday showing the smoke is now reached europe. here it is off the coast of spain and portugal on monday.
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adrian broadist joins us from chicago. we went through it here in new york and it was surreal. >> i remember those images. some folks were questioning if it was a filter on social media, but no, that was reality, and here we are in chicago, at least yesterday, holding a record nobody wanted for the worst air quality in the world. right now, the air quality index is hovering around 178, so that's still considered healthy. it's a little bit better compared to these images we see from yesterday, but we are still not out of the woods. the air quality alert doesn't expire in the city until midnight all because of those canadian wildfires. the higher up you go here in the city and across the great lakes, quite frankly, you see the smoke. some people were captivated by these images, but they are staying inside because that's
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the guidance right now from health experts and they know this is temporary. >> it's shocking, but it's caused by nature right now, so it's not a long-term impact and i was out here yesterday, it wasn't nearly the same. i'm imagining that this is a short-term impact. >> city officials are encouraging folks to bring this back. i keep it handy. my mask. we remember all of these from the pandemic. if you can avoid being outside, stay inside on days like today. poppy? >> adrian, thanks very much. appreciate it. all right. nfl running back leonard fornette says he's okay, after his suv caught on fire while he was driving on a tampa freeway. the free agent running back says it was, quote, one of those days. not one of those days. it's not clear what sparked the fire. luckily he's okay. rescuers say the former bucs player was able to pull over and exit the vehicle safely. the 28-year-old released by the
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buccaneers per his request. he says the g.o.a.t. tom brady's retirement was a factor in the decision. television and radio host ryan seacrest adding a new title host of "wheel of fortune." sony pictures said seacrest signed a multiyear agreement to be the new host of the award winning game show and also serve as a consulting producer. he released a statement saying i'm truly humbled to be stepping into the footsteps of the legendary pat sajak. sajak announced he will be retiring in 2024 after hosting the show for 41 seasons. he and his co-host vanna white stand as two of the longest serving hosts in the game show category. are you okay? >> look, to some degree, it's immense jealousy that ryan seacrest' resume -- imagine his resume, probably the bullets is like 700 pages long and all massively successful shows he works on. my question, as are noted,
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dedicated wheel, as a wheel sa vant, to some degree, your view of the transition between sajak to seacrest? what is necessary to make that work, as a die hard? >> you know, polling -- i'm kidding. no. >> i am as well. >> i mean, it's super exciting. as someone who watches those shows and has -- i remember coming back from school, it was like the back-to-back programs, so i feel like the fact that, you know, "wheel of fortune" is like a part of the american culture identity, i'm glad it's got new life. >> to some degree that's important. i don't want that to go away. it's been an unsettled last several years. >> yeah. if i lose "wheel of fortune" i might lose it all. >> it's holding us together. >> this is it. this is the last thread. >> thank you. noted wheel sa vant. >> thank you. >> new reporting from "the new york times" a senior russian general had acknowledge of plans to rebel against the kremlin.
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what it could mean about putin's next steps coming up next.
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welcome back. "new york times" reporting the top russian general knew, had knowledge, of yevgeny prigozhin's plans to launch an insurrection against russia's military leadership before it was put into action. that is really significant. the "times" cites u.s. officials briefed on american intelligence on this. that general is sergei surovikin, commanded russian troops in ukraine for a period of time and the day of prigozhin's march towards moscow, he's the one who posted this video to telegram urging the wagner leader to stand down and turn back. according to the "new york times" u.s. officials are trying to learn if surovikin may have helped prigozhin's rebellion. this raises so many questions over how much support prigozhin may have and had within russia's military leadership. the kremlin calls this speculation and rumors. that's a quote from them this morning. joining us the former secretary of defense mark esper. it's good to have you. this is a new name to many people waking up this morning.
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tell us about him and the significance of this reporting. >> sure. let's go back to the past weekend, right. so prigozhin launches his tirade against putin on friday, saturday he has troops moving towards moscow. i don't believe he started that on his own. i think he thought there was support within the russian military to include surovikin, as one of those supporters. by the time saturday plays itself out, he realizes that support does not materialize and thus he has to cut ta deal where he leaves for belarus. the important thing to understand all these men have known each other many years. prigozhin and surovikin go back to the syrian civil war where surovikin is credited for turning the tide in the regime's favor. surovikin is considered a brutal but competent commander. he is thrown into the fray last fall in ukraine and put in charge of all russian forces to stop the ukrainian counteroffensive. he is successful in doing so, but then, is relieved about two or three months later by
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gerasimov and, of course, it's gerasimov and -- who is the chief of the general staff and sergei shoigu, the defense minister, who both prigozhin, surovikin, and many on the far right in russia, believe have completely mishandled the conduct of this war and response -- are responsible for its failure. you can see the lives of these men, their careers and their gripes against the defense ministry all kind of aligned here. i think we'll learn about more people who were kind of in this circle of hardliners on the right within the russian military. >> we also, by the way, have not seen prigozhin, though two planes linked to him were seen at a bela russian air base outside of minsk yesterday. how does this play? >> if i was prigozhin i would stay away from dark alleys and high rise buildings and escape to africa where he still has support among wagner forces located there. but i think that will play out
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over time. i think what putin has to do, he has to be careful not to make any major moves because if he starts going after prigozhin now or starts some type of purge in the russian military, that is the inclination, to find a head, if you will, it would undermine his narrative that this was all about the west and not about an internal revolt or rebellion. he has to be careful about the external narrative and how that plays to the russian people. keep in mind, when this kicked off, nobody came to stand for putin. nobody -- prigozhin was welcomed in rostov, right, but nobody in the military stood and stopped prigozhin. no russian citizens came out in the streets to support putin. that says a lot. i'm sure that's on putin's mind as well. >> the former editor of a russian newspaper wrote this in "the new york times," it's fascinating, quote, took the ultimate insider to show the crack in the system. those fissures aren't going to shake mr. putin out of power now, but he understand they, and he have been exposed. not once has he mentioned mr.
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prigozhin's name in his speeches since the threat of the coup. he goes on to say the other name putin never mentions the opposition leader who posed such a threat, he put him in jail, alexei navalny. what do you make of putin's response, what he has said, maybe more importantly, not said? >> he's trying very hard to steady the country right now. you see in his remarks there's a degree of anger, but at the same time, trying to walk this fine line. he knows that there are various factions within the country that are questioning his leadership, particularly since prigozhin came out publicly and said that this war is all a lie, that it was never about a ukrainian threat, it was all about russian generals wanting to plunder ukraine. yesterday he comes out with this ceremony, the pageantry of his office, and he compliments and awards the security services, the people he needs to lie on to stay in power, to make sure he has them locked down as well. i think he's in a tight spot right now, and at the same time, he's fighting the war in
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ukraine. he has to be worried about this counteroffensive really kicking off hot and heavy pretty soon. >> there's been a development, turning the page, to how former president trump your former boss, is defending having what is alleged to be the secret classified documents on his desk in bedminster showing them to people who don't have any qualification to see them and him having them, by the way, out of the white house after his presidency. here's how he's defending it now. listen. >> the voice was fine. what did i say wrong in those recordings? i didn't see the recording. all i know is i did nothing wrong. we had a lot of papers, a lot of papers, stacked up, in fact you could hear the rustle, and nobody said i did anything wrong. >> he talked about them about being building plans and golf course plans. do you believe him? >> look, i think the context of everything we've heard on the tapes suggests that the documents are real, that he knew
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what he was doing. if the allegations by the special counsel are true, it would be clearly unauthorized, illegal, irresponsible, dangerous, if you will. i go back to the standard we hold of all of our service members. if an airman or marine or young soldier or sailor were caught retaining or, you know, took classified documents and were unauthorized using them and handling them, then they would be court-martialed. this case is playing out right now in massachusettss where that young airman took documents from the massachusetts national guard retained them and shared information. that's the standard we hold our service members to, and there's that basic principle in our judicial system that nobody is above the law. by the same token, you're innocent until proven guilty. this needs to play out. clearly the document or whatever the witnesses say about that document, will be pivotal i think in how this plays out? >> you mentioned service members, there have been multiple service members who have gone to jail for actions akin to what is alleged here. i thought it was interesting
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your former colleague john bolton said it's unlikely the former president if convicted will actually end up in jail. what do you think? >> well, who knows. i think the legal process has to play itself out. that's always been my view, let the legal process play itself out and see where that culminates at and what the state of affairs at that time. it's too hard to look -- too hard to see that far into the future right now. >> secretary esper, thanks for your time this morning. >> thank you. phil? >> all right. the supreme court rejecting a push to give state lawmakers nearly unchecked power on deciding elections. why this is a loss for those 2020 election deniers coming up next. made with only haas avocado and sea salt. ingredients like these make the subwbway series elite. that avocado's - got bravado. try the subway series menu. their tastieiest refresh yet.
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welcome back. live look at our nation's capital this morning. voting rights advocates are celebrating the supreme court's 6-3 decision in a case that could have changed the way u.s. elections are decided. here's retired judge michael lutic. >> ford versus harper is the most significant case for america's democracy since our
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founding almost 250 years ago. >> that case was just decided by the high court on its face it was about a legislative map drawn by north carolina republicans, but it also had the potential to change who runs elections, who sets election laws, and even upset fundamental checks and balances in the u.s. government. how did it have so much power? some in former president donald trump's orbit, like john eastman, were pushing for something called the independent state legislature doctrine that goes like this, under the elections clause of the u.s. constitution, quote, the times, places and manner of holding elections for senators and representatives shall be prescribed in each state by the legislature thereof. proponents say state houses should be able to then set the rules in federal elections with no check, no balance, no check from state constitutions no check interest state courts, no check from state commissions, no balances. it wasn't just the maps at stake. this had the potential to stretch all rules in federal
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elections. let's talk about the consequences here. good morning. 6-3 roberts writes the opinion. there's an important part of the opinion here as it pertains to federal courts that gives people pause, but overall, is this a win for democracy? >> without question. had this gone the other way, it would have changed everything. i mean, i think judge lutic is correct, the way we vote and checks and balances. what it would have meant had it gone the other way, state legislatures can hold elections however they want and there's nothing that state courts, including state supreme courts, can do about this and to think about what the consequences of that could be, just think back to 2020 and what donald trump and rudy giuliani and john eastman were pressuring state legislatures to do. so this was a big win for democracy, no question. >> i mean, i don't think that can be overstated. i think this was the fear for folks looking at this case as kind of the thing that could shift all of 2024, and the question is why were folks like
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john eastman so invested in this independent state legislature theory? because politically there's a republican party that has been kind of forced into viewing itself as a minority party and so you have people who are looking at state legislatures because that allows them to circumvent popular opinion and allows them to be reliant on things that happened back, where power is locked in from gerrymandering. we think about wisconsin where democrats have been able to win back power through winning that state supreme court race, after 10, 15 years of basically being shut out. that's a 50-50 state where political voice has almost immediately changed because those maps are going to change. that's the power that really lies in those state legislatures and in this question here, and that's what moore versus harper returned back to kind of our foundational principle of democracy, rather than allow state legislatures to be fully unchecked. >> a win for democracy all agreeing here, but what it would have effectively done is eliminated any neutral or by
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tors from the process, whether the state supreme court, having it in the hands of political appointees within the state houses, but i would caution, you know, this is a good ruling, good precedent. there's still efforts under way, whether it's, you know, partisan secretaries of states trying to be elected in swing states, the trump team has been very -- has, you know, quietly been trying to push some of these officials because there are still going to be efforts in the future to undermine the integrity of elections. >> important to note that the coalition here, chief justice roberts, justin kavanaugh, amy coney barrett joining with the three liberal justices. >> largely thinking this should have been dismissed because the makeup of the north carolina -- >> procedural -- >> i will -- >> we have to go but judge luttiq told anderson this decision was needed by scotus for jack smith to be potentially successful in bringing charges in the election interference case, so it all ties into what's going on right now. thank you, guys. >> thanks. alyssa, elle, thanks for joining us. appreciate that.
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th ♪ ♪ you heard the song. impossible to escape in 2009. poppy was at the clubs. >> i was cool back then. >> the chart-topping debut single from the 19-year-old son of haitian im grmigrants, here the song we are talking about. ♪ ♪
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>> that was several songs. the same element constant, jason derulo sold over 250 million singles worldwide, earned 12 billion global streams and an unstoppable social media following, 110 million followers across all platforms. now he is adding author to his resumé, sing your name outloud 15 rules for living your dream. the one and only jason derulo joins now. a hell of a resumé. making me feel inadequate here. that's the reason you wrote the book. >> yeah, part willy. i looked at my life and tried to figure out what it was within music. when i made the biggest leaps of success, what it was in those moments that i was to go differently and what made me the one that kind of stuck out amongst the crowd. and i started it utilize those
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same idealisms in businesses. i utilized the same in social media and social media exploded. and i was just like, wow, this is the exact same thing in every facet. i was like, i got to write this book because there are a lot of dreamers out there giving up their dreams for grad school or something their parents want them to do and they feel like it's too late. i started different things within my 30s and they are still flourishing, right. so it's the same things that not me successful. so i was like, i got to write this book. >> you talked about routine. i thought this was interesting, getting you through some of your hardest moments, because now we see this. we see the celebrity with how many, 110 social media followers. but you privately had some really hard times and routine helped you get through them? >> yeah, for sure. some of my lowest lows, the
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routine got me out of themt. when i broke my neck in 2014, i wasn't able to tie my shoes, take a shower. it was supposed to be a happy time. i was getting ready for a large tour and, you know, it was one of the pinnacles of my life. and it quickly shattered when i broke my neck. and my routine got me out of the situation. waking up in the morning at the same time. eating at the same time. working tooy my music sen hours in the day and then going to the gym and bed at the same time. within that routine all of a sudden seven months later when i was healed i had this incredible album which ended up being one of my best-selling albums, six plat numbs singles. so i got used to winning the day as opposed to how am i going to get through seven months. >> how important are the people
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around you? in terms of your co-pilots and the people around you, i'm thinking, you know, because i think of who you have done songs with, written muss music witnoo dogg, lil wayne. >> it's a beautiful thing. should learn from the people around you. there is the cliche, they say you are the sum of the three people you hang with most. >> do you believe that? >> i do. certain people in your life can say things that either bring you down or bring you up, right. and i think you need to choose those people very carefully because words make a difference. the things that you say about yourself make a difdifference. if someone is constantly beating you down and saying you can't, can't, can't, and you should go one direction and you are trying to go this direction you start to believe those things and think i should go the easier
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route. you need people picking you up, lifting you up and making sure that you a believe in yourself as much as you should belief in yourself. >> could we talk about the music industry now. what i think is so fascinating is what a.i. is doing to music. we covered it on this show, drake, what that all means. where do you fall on this? i am sure a.i. has made jason derulo's voice in songs. do you own that? >> so not yet. i think they are still figuring it out. it is illegal to take someone's likeness. you can't just do that, right? but a.i. hadn't figured out how to do emotion as of yet. these songs that you are hearing with other people, it's still someone's voice and someone has to write that song and someone has to do the voice and a.i. changes the voice into the artist. so it's still somebody really talented that's doing it. so it's not to the point a.i. is
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taking over to the point of us actually feeling something. >> do do you feel though that you need to get ahead of it? i think for -- the progression, evolution of music in the business, from streaming what we have seen, illegal downloads and i think artists felt like they were behind the ball -- >> phil and i are preparing to be replaced by a.i. and wondering if you are, too. >> basically. >> i think we appreciate realness, i think, you know? and until proved otherwise, until a.i. can give heart, i think we are safe. >> and then you are the son of haitian immigrants. >> uh-huh. >> seeing what haiti is going through right now and has gone through for years, really since the earthquake and politically there, your thoughts on where you are. >> haiti is everything for me. so my next chapter in my life is really about building up myself
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so i can continue to build up where i am from. i am, you know, as you know, from haitian parents and, you know, they worked really hard to get to a point, you know. and every time i go back to haiti, my heart is just broken, you know, over and over and over again every single time i go back. there is just the strongest people in the world. i just feel like they are the most resilient people on the planet. but we just need a break, you know? and i want to be a smart part of that break if i can be. so everything that i am doing as of now, the end goal is to change where haiti is at. >> it really is a -- spent almost a week in rural haiti with some of the most remarkable people for a cnn report and it really is a magical place. >> it is. >> it deserves a lot. >> absolutely. and such incredible beaches and amazing food. and i want the world to
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experience that part. we always talk about like the down parts of haiti. >> you're right chblt but there are so many amazing things tabot it. and if people went more, you know, they would realize the beautiful side of it, you know. we have some of the most beautiful beaches in the world in haiti. >> congratulations on the book. >> thank you. >> great message. >> send you out with this song and his new book "sing your name outloud 50 rules for living your dream." we'll be right back. ♪ ♪
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