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. stunning revelations in the revolt on russia. a new report says the wagner group leaders intendeded to capture top kremlin officials and now there are questions about whether putin's generals knew there was a mutiny coming. president biden lays out his bidenomics plan. but with inflation and interest rates still elevated, will voters buy what the president is selling? well the delays and cancellations keep adding up as do frustrations among air travelers across the country. ahead, what you need to know before the july 4th holiday. we are following these major developing story and more all coming in here to cnn news
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central. we have new reporting on the short lived russian revolt and prigozhin's plan much more elaborate than previously known. western officials telling the wall street the wagner leader planning to capture two of putin's top ranking military leaders. the defense minister and chief of russia's general staff as these new details are coming to life, president biden was asked if the recent events have weakened putin. listen. >> he has become a bit of a fly around the world. and it's not just nato. it's not just european union. japan. you know, it's -- >> do you think putin is weaker today than he was before all those events? >> i know he was. >> cnn chief international security correspondent is live for us in kyiv.
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let's begin with prigozhin's plan. do we have confirmation that officials at the kremlin were tipped off that something was coming? >> not quite as acute as that. european intelligence official i've spoken to says they're aware of hints that there may have been prior knowledge amongst the russian security or military establishment. that perhaps people know, perhaps they kept it to themselves, didn't pass it on wondering if it would succeed and maybe some were looking for the dent in putin's prestige. it is still early. there's still a lot of fog around these matters and "the wall street journal's" reporting talks about part of this plan being to capture the defense minister and the ukrainian chief of staff as part of an opening phase of this plan. indeed, we've also heard from the national guard head saying that there were leaks from the prigozhin camp ahead of this mutiny. all of this adds to the
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possibility that because we know sergei was in the southern city that prigozhin advanced upon, they may have hoped to try and capture him. we know according to prigozhin, he fled the city, he says, as a coward, quote, on the late part of friday. so these things beginning to fit together perhaps but no evidence in "the wall street journal" reports or that i've heard of the specific plot to capture. frankly, if they're going to take down the putin administration as some key officials as a by-product. >> there's also intense scrutiny on another key official at the kremlin. "the new york times" reporting that sergei serovan had advanced knowledge of last weekend's mutiny. what does it say about support for prigozhin and his attempted coup in the kremlin? >> it's important with all these reports just to remind everybody that we're into a golden moment
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here frankly for western intelligence to try and a, find out what happened and who's turned on who, but also not be that worried and just put out a whole lot of stories which could set ally or enemy against each other in the kremlin. "the new york times" clear that sergei who ran the ukraine war earlier this year and was replaced and is known to be close to prigozhin, had foreknowledge. that doesn't necessarily tally with his appearance on friday on television telling people to stay down, stand down, to not join the prigozhin revolt. we think the air force who were involved in trying to stop wagner's advance on moscow. so things to try and work out there, but i don't think he's been seen in public since the deal was struck with prigozhin to send him to belarus. so this is all part of what i'm sure ukrainian officials here are delighting in beginning to see and that's kremlin officials, military establishment members, questions each other, turning on each
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other. wondering who's loyalty they can now count upon and possibly try to exploit this chaos for their own personal political or even financial advantage. remember this is a pretty clept craddock government so people will be trying to get what they can out as they begin to see the facade of putin's total control tumbling. >> such a fascinating point. especially as accusations mount about prigozhin's own profiteering in this war. thank you so much. >> i like that description of g? let's talk to someone who knows. steve hall. good to have you on today. >> good to be here, jim. >> so throughout this war, u.s. intelligence has been very forward leaning in terms of what it shares publicly. it did so to exploez russian invasion plans. part of the invasion. it's done so to diffuse false
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flag operations and now you have this. i wonder do you see a sdeliberae effort here by u.s. intelligence to sew discord inside the kremlin? >> no. i can be that direct about it because of course it's probably within the realm of the certain to say it would certainly benefit the united states and nato if there was more instability, more insecurity inside of russia but right now, the u.s. intelligence community is focused on collection. certainly we're prohibited by law and you simply cannot impact the u.s. audience on that. not to say that the yukrainians or others couldn't try to spin the situation to increase the problems in moscow. but if this reporting is accurate, i think we're dpgoingo see more reporting coming out outlining what happened over the coming weeks. it outlines that prigozhin didn't just wake up and said i'm going to head to moscow and head north. he must have at least had or
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tried to obtain a wink and a nod from people inside the kremlin. the belarus angle on this is also fascinating and now begins perhaps to take on a different meaning as to why he went there. it's going to continue to come out i think, jim. >> set aside the belarus question for a moment if we can. describe your sense of what this means for putin's leadership right now because it almost doesn't matter who actually was involved. to some degree, if putin thinks they were involved or wants to demonstrate he's now in control, are you looking at the groundwork being laid for a purge here? one to eliminate potential enemies, but two, to show he's still the boss? >> yeah, a lot of layers to this, jim. let me try to provide some context. so first, yeah, i think putin is probably going to have to do some things to shore up at least the perception of weakness.
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i i think putin is now weaker than anytime he's been in his career there, if you can call it that. he may push back and try to identify who is doing what during that coup attempt. the internal security service which has primary responsibility has a busy couple of weeks and months ahead as they begin to sort this out. but keep in mind that in the western context, we don't think of each other as usually trying manipulate and try to find out whose side people are on. in russia, that's almost at the wher genetic level that happens. so there's going to be a lot of testing and to figure out who supported who, but in a russian context, that's not as big a deal. but there is no doubt putin is in a weakened state. >> you mentioned the belarus angle here because there was some doubt earlier in the week as to whether he was there. there are some satellite images and his jet being on the ground. tell us why you think the
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belarus piece is important before we go. >> >> this is fascinating because i think myself and certainly some other russia watchers as well had looked at lukashenko as nothing more than a governor. it's not really a sovereign state given the power that russia inserts over belarus but if you start asking who benefits from what, why did prigozhin go to belarus? what would lukashenko have gotten out of that? it's clear putin wants to get him out of the as soon as possible but why not just kill him because putin usually does that. everybody wins. putin gets him out of the country, prigozhin gets to live and lukashenko gets a guy who knows how to run wagner and if the wagner guys end up in belarus, then there's leverage against moscow for lukashenko in future because the russian army is really busy in ukraine these days. it's possible he could have said it gives me future leverage
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against putin. >> that's some g"game of throne" level stuff. thanks so much. president biden betting on the economy for his re-election bid. the president delivering a fiery speech this afternoon in chicago making the economy a center piece of his 2024 campaign. this so-called bidenomics strategy stresses the need for policies that benefit the middle class as well as blue collar workers. jeremy diamond is in chicago for us. the president is leaning into this more aggressively with his messaging now. >> he certainly is. and that's because this is the central political challenge he faces heading into re-election. despite the fact that the president's advisers believe that the economy is heading in the right direction, inflation is significantly cooling, the jobs market is keeping a pace and they feel increasingly confident that we're headed for a soft landing rather than a recession. americans in poll after poll
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don't seem to feel it. instead, they are saying they believe the economy's in bad shape and they blame the president. so today, you heard the president make perhaps his most forceful pitch yet on the economy talking up how he believes his policies have benefitted the country since the covid pandemic, taking credit for that economic progress. also putting it in contrast to trickle down economic policies. from start to finish we heard that bidenomics was just as much in contrast to trickle down policies to what it actually is. here's the president earlier today. >> it's about the future. another way of saying restore the american dream. because it worked before. it's rooted in what we've always worked best at in this country, investing in america. investing in americans. because when we invest in our people, we strengthen the middle class. 40 years of trickle down limited
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that dream. for those, except for those at the top. too many for too long -- >> and the president also made very clear that he is not declaring victory yet as it relates to the economy. he touted the significant process but said there's more work to be done and made clear as he continues to invest, to implement these pieces of legislation that he got over the first two years in office, he believes as americans see those benefits, they will begin to also see what he described as a strong economy. >> thank you so much. let's bring in jeff zellny and kristen holmes to talk more about this. i think we heard jeff the president kind of emphasizing in his speech today inflation is half of what it is a year ago but actually most americans, they're not sharing in the optimism that i'm sure that he and his political team would like for them to. there's a cnn poll shows three out of four americans believe economic conditions are poor. the same poll shows americans blame the president.
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two-thirds disapproving of his handling of the economy. is this going to be tough for him really focusing on the economy here in his message? >> it's something of an optimism gamble, i think. they believe the polls are a snapshot in time and people have moved on a bit beyond that. because of lower gas prices, lower grocery prices in some respects but there is still the specter of inflation hanging over the economy which also hangs over his re-election bid. without a doubt. so it's a bit of a gamble as i say, but he's going to own the economy when you talk to his advisers either way so they're trying to brand it to remind people of everything he's done. there was no new policy here today. they're just trying to remind people of the infrastructure law, the broad band that comes with that. the bridges. other things you'll see. it's just one more attempt to really brand what they have been doing. but sure, thest a bit of a gamble, but an adviser explained it to me as an optimistic one. >> i think on the economy, it's sort of we're out of this maybe acute zone but it sort of feels like chronic economic pain for a lot of americans.
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i wonder kristen when you're out on the campaign trial, what you're hearing from voters on this topic. >> well it seems i hear mostly from that three-fourths of people who don't feel any kind of economic relief. they tell me that the economy is a huge issue for them and i cover mostly republicans and mostly donald trump and what i'm constantly interested in is the fact that so many voters have a very short memory except for when it come to the economy. and they remember that they felt like they were more comfortable under donald trump, under a republican president, and they talk about that. when you talk about this optimistic gamble, the real end game is what's going to happen in november of 2024. in the summer leading up to that. you can remind people of the policies you put in place time and time again but if people aren't actually feeling that with their wallets, they're not going to vote that way. that's just rhetoric. that's what they're used to. they're used to hearing these promises and stump speeches but
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they want to feel they can go on that vacation before the election. >> maybe they aren't feeling it in their wallets or psychologically. i think we see that a lot, jeff, when it comes to people on both sides. >> we do. a president has little direct control over gas prices, over some prices and even some parts of the economy. but they are blamed for it. it's uncloear if they get to tae credit for it or not, but what the house is trying to do is trying to start this campaign almost a year ahead of time. history will show how people feel about the economy going into the summer before an election, what their views are. i'm struck to the degree i hear voters talking about the economy as much social issues. that's really driving the republican campaign. so as the economy continues to slightly improve, inflation sort of stays down. unemployment is low. the stock market is up. the republican campaign is
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driven by something else. of course during a general election campaign, the economy will be front and center, but the white house is trying to make the bet there will not be a recession next year. still an open question, and that prices will continue to come down. as we head into the fourth of july weekend travel here, a lot cheaper to fill your car up with gas and that is one of the metrics here. we'll see what it is next year. >> i want to note one thing you mentioned talking about the social issues and the economy. it has a different feel already than it had during the midterms in 2022. we are just out of them and that was very economy centric. people were really feeling the pain. especially leading up to the midterms. i don't get the same sense that the economy is as front and center as it was then. there's a lot of focus on the social issues, but i do think it really is as you said, it's unknown right now how this is going to play into 2024 in that presidential election. until going into that actual election. >> 4lots of bets going to be mae on that. boris?
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>> it is nasty out there as we take a look at live pictures from a hazy chicago. more than 80 million americans under air quality alerts as smoke from wildfires in canada continues to spread south. we're going to show you the worst hot spots. plus, travelers stuck in airports after thousands of delays and consolations and the fourth of july holiday isn't even here yet. also, georgia's secretary of state and rudy giuliani taking center stage, both of them speaking to federal investigators looking into donald trump's effort to overturn the 2020 election. cnn news central returns in moments. stay with us. that's my boy. ♪ ststay off the freeways! only payay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪
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hazardous. that's when officials say you should stay indoors at all costs. we have live pictures from chicago where you can barely make out the skyline and this is the scene today in st. paul, minnesota. it is shrouded in gray. chad myers joins us now live. how long are you expecting this wave of smoke to spread across the midwest? >> certainly it doesn't get better today and tomorrow. you can see that there's not a cloud in the sky between chicago and cleveland but you can't see the ground because this is the smoke that the satellite is seeing right now. cleveland, ohio, this is what it looked like two days ago. looking across to downtown. now i take you to what it looks like live. and i know it's live because i've seen birds fly through the picture but that's because they're less than a mile and a quarter away because that is the visibility right now in cleveland. when i'm looking at these purple air numbers, you can look at them online. one of the worst places is
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granger township in, around cleveland. 328 parts per million is your number right now. that is certainly hazardous for you to be breathing out there. i had a meter last time we did this. the meter here in atlanta was 80 parts per million outside but it was six on the inside so a 12 fold better air quality on the inside. that's why they say stay inside if you absolutely can. all these areas here in kind of this orange, maroon, purple and red, that's the air quality index we're seeing now. this is what it looks like from one of the computer models. where is the smoke worse? champaign, no picnic. i'm going the move this ahead until tomorrow. you'll notice some of the orange begins to go away but we're still left with all of the yellow here. it begins to mix around again. and we see some thunderstorms in the mix on the west side. those thunderstorms will absorb some of those smoke particles
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and rain them out. that's helpful. by sunday, it gets a lot better but it's not going to take much to be a lot better than that. it is ugly out there from detroit to chicago down to st. louis and champaign all the way to pittsburgh and even into west virginia. some of it slides to the northeast for tomorrow. we'll keep watching that. >> and it is getting worse, chad. as you were speaking, we got an update on the numbers. it went from being 80 million americans to more than 120 million. definitely something to keep an eye on. thank you so much. >> when you add in those big cities, that's what happens to the numbers. >> thanks. jim? well, air travel troubles plaguing some of the nation's busiest airports and they're not close to over. heavy storms moving across the country particularly in the northeast. they have caused major problems on airlines forcing thousands of flight cancellations and delays. scores of passengers at newark international airport, they got stuck overnight.
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had to sleep on cots lined up along along terminal corridors. situation no better in new york and boston where severe weather forced a total ground stop. jason carroll is watching the situation from laguardia. we had a flight aware picture up last hour that showed all the jets parked on the taxi ways of laguardia. are they still stuck there? any movement? >> reporter: i mean, you know, pick an airport, jim. you're going to find in the tristate area whether at laguardia or jfk. you're going to find some problems. here at the arrivals and departures board, sort of a mixed bag. we've seen a number of flights actually taking off but cancellations as well. here's some updated numbers for you at laguardia. 164 cancellations. newark, 165. jfk at 97. those numbers are up slightly from what we saw when we were
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out here this morning. and with numbers like that, as you can imagine, no shortage of people who are still even at this hour still trying to figure out what their next move is going to be. >> you have to sleep on the benches because our flight got changed four times. at one point, it was canceled. >> i was supposed to fly out sunday evening and that was the first canceled and i was told i would be on a flight monday. that was canceled and i was on the phone for a number of days told i was put on a flight today and just i don't know, they never found my ticket voucher for it. >> we were supposed to go to a family reunion today in denver and we arrived to the airport in about an hour before our flight, we just saw on our boarding passes that our flight was canceled so we didn't even get notified in any way. there's basically no flights for days. >> you know, transportation secretary pete buttigieg has weighed in on all of what's been
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going on and says that actually things are better this year. the system reacting better this year than it did last year. i put that to some of the passengers who are still out here and stranded and they're just not feeling it. what they are feeling is higher prices this year versus last year. less services it seems like this year versus last year. so in terms of the system here a lot of folks feeling it simply is not working as it should. jim? >> a lot of finger pointing going from airlines to unions to the faa for blame. thanks so much. >> jim, we're seeing new photos of the titan submersible debris as it was returned to land. you can even recognize the profile of the craft from what they are pulling in. ahead, we'll have more on what is next in the investigation.
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the probe into president trump's plan to overturn the 2020 election is ramping up and cnn has exclusively learned that investigators recently interviewed ruiz giuliani. he was one of trump's key operatives and one of the most vocal proponents of baseless election conspiracy theories. kaitlyn is here for us. obviously, giuliani was a very big player. one of the biggest.
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what do they want to know from him? >> what do they want to know from him, right? giuliani was there orchestrating these court cases, the fake electors, he was trying to reach out to state legislatures. and so this is a really intriguing development in the special counsel's investigation into swjanuary 6th, donald trum and the top people around him. they've interviewed many, many people. brought lots of people into the grand jury. they had subpoenaed giuliani several months ago for at the very least, documents. then it seemed to be on hold. the special counsel's office came in. now he's sitting for this voluntary interview. the circumstances of that are really atypical. what is the reason that they want to talk to him and that he would be willing to at this stage of the game. what would he have to say that he hasn't said publicly on television or in press conferences before so a really interesting development, how it fits into this. it could be quite a notable thing for the special counsel
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investigation. >> how intriguing, right? today, the special counsel's team also speaking with georgia secretary of state, brad raffensperger. one of the targets of course his trump's pressure campaigns after the election. that phone call we've all heard. >> right. brad raffensperger is the secretary of state who donald trump called and was recorded saying i want you to find those votes in georgia for me to win the state, which was impossible. that was not something that could be done. he didn't win the state and then afterwards, raffensperger wrote about this in his book. he said i felt then and still believe today that this was a threat. coming from donald trump. the very sort of thing he might want to be telling the special counsel's office sitting down with him and all of this comes at the same time where we know there's quite a focus on what feels happening in individual states. the battleground states trump wanted to declare he won even when he hadn't. there's been a lot of investigation not just around
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the fake electors, but other parts of what was happening in those states. so how this all comes together, there could be developments soon. >> really important moves and the importance of which we may be finding out soon. thank you for the great reporting. boris? >> she is already the most decorated american gymnast of all time and she may be making a comeback. is simone biles returning to competition? new details on that. first it was netflix. now costco says it is cracking down on membership sharing. we'll tell you why when cnn news central returns. at mint mobile, we like to do the opposite of what big wireless does. they charge you a lot. we charge you a little. they put their names oarenas. we put ours on my lower back. so natally when they announced they'd be raising their prices due tonflation, we decided to deflate our prices
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now to some of the thead leans we're following. simone biles just signed up for a competition. will she compete? the 26-year-old newlywed is listed as an entrant for the u.s. classic in august but her registration is not a guarantee she will participate. she famously withdrew from some events during the tokyo olympics because she was suffering from a mental block where she lost track of her position midair. also, the hollywood actors union was just put on notice by some a list stars who warn they're prepared to go on strike if they don't get the contract they say they deserve. more than 200 actors signed a
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letter to the screen actor's guild leadership urging them not to settle with studio executives. members have already voted to authorize a strike if a new deal is not reached before their current one expires just two days from now. and costco says if you do not have a membership card, don't use someone else's. get your open or shop somewhere else. they'll now ask for a photo id at checkout to make sure customers are not sharing cards. the company said they've noticed non-members are sneaking in then paying in self-check out lanes. netflix maybe? >> please send me that password when you get a chance. zblnchs a multinational investigation is underway to find out what led to the implosion of the titan submersible. today, we got a new look at images showing the debris from the ocean. workers unloaded piece of tarped
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panels off the horizon atlantic, the craft on the mission. you're going to be speaking to one of the engineers warning about potential problems on the submersible. >> yes, and this is where the investigation sadly begins, boris, as people and experts like this engineer i'll be speaking with start to assess and dig through what in fact went wrong here and these are some of the same people that did warn oceangate back in 2018 that this could very well result from the expedition that the submersibles were going on had they not stuck to proper protocols and regulations which they said they were skirting. let me read to you what the forensic engineer i'll be sb interviewing said. he said they were avoiding u.s. regula regulations by deploying the vessel in international waters and thus by circumventing coast guard rules where these regular
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laces would have been in force. he said this to the "new york times," this letter that dozens of experts signed was basically asking them to do what the other submarines do, especially the passenger ones. and that's what really stands out. that there's always risks that go with these type of expeditions but the fact there were passengers, civilians going along with these expeditions is why so many experts in the field were concerns and voiced their alarm with the heads of the company that they should actually be doing more to stick to the regulations that their competitors were doing. >> it will make for a great conversation. thank you so much. we're going to be watching for that at the top of the hour on the lead with jake tapper. a former nfl quarterback, ryan mallet, tragically passed away in an apparent drowning as rip currents claimed the lives of a dozen people in just two weeks along the gulf coast. ahead, urgent warnings from
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warnings about rip curbs or riptides after a former nfl quarterback drowned off of a beach in florida just yesterday. former new england pat re on ryan mallet went under water and was not breathing. this comes as the currents are climbing lives up and down the florida gulf coast. nick valencia joins us from fort myers beach. to authorities have as theory as to why or just more people in the water?
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>> reporter: it is just a very active season so far. and the death of ryan mallett really underscores the dangers and how deadly this season has been with the message from florida state officials being if could could happen to a former athlete, it could happen to anyone. rip currents pull you out to shore in deeper water and as water gets trapped between the sand bar and the beach creating river like streams that travel at a high rate of speed and they could be a challenge for even the most accomplished swimmer. i mentioned how deadly already. 11 deaths this season with seven of them happened in panama city beach in the last weeks of june. and to give you a sense, just in the last ten days they received 70 calls for distress swimmers, half of them happened on saturday. and there are county officials that are not taking any chances when it comes to this warning the public. the bay county sheriff's office releasing these photos to ill state the power of these rip
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currents. they form dredges under water, deep in the sand, just showing how pouf these rip currents are and have been this season. it is that time of the year and people come out with family and friends like here in fort myers. and the bottom line from florida officials if they want you to be aware of rip currents this season. jim. >> thank you so much. and be aware of what is the right thing to do. i've been caught in one with my kids. you doan swim against it, you swim out and down the beach. it exhausts everyone. something for all of us to keep in mind. >> it really is? just in cnn, president biden has started using a c pap machine after reporters asked by strap marks that they saw on both sides of his face today. and if you use a cpap you know what we're talking about here. a spokesperson said, quote, since 2008 the president has disclosed his history with sleep apnea ain thorough medical
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reports. he used a cpap machine last night which is common for people with this history. elizabeth cohen is joining us live on this story. this is something that a lot of people struggle with and this is something that certainly could improve the health of people with this condition. >> it can. in fact it might be more of a story if he wasn't using a cpap machine. a machine continuous positive airway pressure is a great way to treat it. it pushes air in to keep those airways open. brianna, it is not great that 30 million americans have sleep apnea. but only about 6 million have been diagnosed with the condition. so it is a good ing this to treat it. sleep apnea could sometimes be a silent problem. people don't realize that they have it and it could cause big, big problems. brianna. >> yeah, we're talking about people who are waking up dozens and dozens of time per minute,
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right elizabeth? >> sometimes. that could absolutely happen and that could mess with your heart, that could mess with your blood pressure and people need to be evaluated and see if they need a cpap machine or some othertreme. b so again, in many ways it would be' bigger story that he won'woasn't using the cpap machine. >> this undergurds health more than we could understand. but i think we're starting to. you could talk about some of the issues who people who just have sleep apnea might be por likely to face if they are not getting treatment? >> right. so there is a double issue with sleep apnea. not only are you not getting enough sleep and that could cause terrible problems for your
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heart, that could cause increased incidents of all sorts of heart issues or stroke, not getting enough sleep is bad for your mental health and for everyone system in your body. but in addition they're not taking in enough air. so it is -- there is quite obvious. if you're not getting enough oxygen, that is bad. when you're awake you could do something about it, but when you're asleep you wake up. so it puts people at a higher risk for all sorts of heart issues, it puts them with breathing and respiratory issues and if you have it, it needs to be treated. >> it is good he's getting treated. maybe it will make people think, hey, do i need to be treated which could be wonderful as you mentioned. elizabeth cohen, thank you. >> this morning more than 50 million people in south korea woke up a year younger. we'll explain how when we come back. $700 dollars just by switching. ooooh, let me put a reminder on my phone.
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it is a wish that so many of us share. hoping to wake up a few years younger. for people in south korea, that is exactly what happened. and it is not some new kay beauty trend. today a new law went into effect in south korea adopting the international age system that is used by most of the world. that system refers to age as the fub of years since a person was born. but up until now, south korea had been using korean age, they were counting babies a year old on the day they were born and adding a year every january 1st after that. some south koreans use calendar
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age which is a mashup of the two. so for example, gangham style singer was born on december 31st, 1977 and considered 45 by international age and 46 by calendar year age and 57 by korean age. so now he is technically 45 and we used size as a excuse for brianna to show off her gangham style. >> see, i'm doing it. >> i'm not going to tell you what my international age is. >> mine is always 29. >> that is what my mom always said. that is a good one to go with. >> show the dance again. >> you show me the dance. >> for another time. "the lead" starts right now. ♪ a rare event in russia. putin taking on the crowds. "the lead" starts right now. this
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