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connecticut becoming the first state in the nation to give up to $3,200 to children born into poverty. starting july 1st, all newborns who are covered under the state's medicaid program are eligible for this investment. now, these funds are estimated to grow over time to up to $24,000, which the kids can access once they turn 18. governor ned lamont says the goal is to lift residents out of poverty. thanks for joining me, i'm christie romans. "cnn this morning" starts right now. ♪ good morning, everyone. we are glad you're with us, something very exciting happened last night in baseball. >> i'm so excited. >> we'll get to that in a moment. >> spent three hours talking about -- >> you just did? >> no, you and me.
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>> i'm very excited. >> we're allowed to do that? >> wait, there's news too. >> very excited. there's other news going on in the world. we're going to talk a lot after baseball this morning. let's get started with five things to know. transportation secretary pete buttigieg tells cnn that today, one of the busiest travel days of the holiday week is going to be a major test for the airlines. the industry has been roiled in chaos all week. united says they are all hands on deck trying to get the airline out of a multiday meltdown of their schedule. also this morning, russian president putin is set to speak this hour as fallout continues from rebellion. today there are serious questions bouncing over the whereabouts of a top general who reportedly knew about the planned insurrection. also, parts of the titan submersible have been rekcovere from the ocean floor. madonna, forced to postpone her world tour following a health scare that has landed her in the icu. we've got the latest in her
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recovery. and in the most important story of the day without any question, history on the diamond for the first time in more than a decade. there has been a perfect game in major league baseball. ♪ i love this for more than just the fact that it is the first time in 11 years that it's happened? >> felix hernandez. >> why do you love it? >> because baflseball is such a beautiful and wonderful game. it's happened only 24 times in the history of major league bas baseball. >> you don't know. you can't expect it. in oakland, worst team in baseball. no one's going to their games
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anymore. you never know what you're going to get. >> very harsh to the oakland a's ooh. >> i think their fans would agree. >> he did it for his uncle. his uncle died two days ago, and he said this was all for his uncle. i love that part of the story. i also love this. >> okay. >> who's that? >> why? >> who is that? >> are you intimidated? >> who is that phil mattingly? scholar athlete. >> that was really the peak of my baseball career. it was photo day. that was the most action i think i got during my career at ohio state. i like your wristband too. >> you have not aged. >> in case i was sweating during the team photos. >> you're going to see that a lot in the next three hours. >> i appreciate everyone not mentioning that in the morning meeting. >> it wasn't even my idea, blame the control room. >> i always do. this morning, more than 120
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million americans under alerts for air quality as thick smoke smothers the nation. that's a third of the entire u.s. population from indianapolis to washington, d.c. take a look at these live pictures. this morning chicago and our nation's capital have been ranking as the most polluted city ies in the world. minneapolis, cleveland, in the top ten. at the same time, a deadly and record breaking heat wave is scorching the south and expanding with more than 80 million people facing extreme heat. let's start off with our meteorologist jennifer gray tracking it all for us. >>st it going to be a while before we start to see relief from this. we are seeing the red and purple dots all around chicago, detroit, even spreading into portions of the mid-atlantic, even the northeast. new york city even under a moderate level for that unhealthy air quality, and so these are some major cities across the midwest and even into
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the northeast. this a story we have heard before. we said that this could happen again, and it is. chicago, st. louis, cincinnati, new york, philadelphia, d.c. could all suffer from poor air quality today. new york city not technically under that air quality alert, but very, very close. so you will have some hazy skies. chicago, d.c. taking the top two spots for the poorest air quality in the world right now, for any of the major cities across the world. nothing to brag about there. we have visibility that's very, very low. less than 1 mile in cincinnati. the forecast moving forward, we do have some thick smoke across chicago as we saw, but it will start to dissipate throughout date today and even into tomorrow. you can see these blue colors still indicating smoke in the atmosphere. this is most likely higher level smoke. you'll notice it in your sunrises, sunsets, things like that. it won't be as oppressive as we've seen with that lower
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elevation smoke. the heat is a huge story. heat is trapped under this what we call a heat dome across the south, and we still have excessive heat warnings in effect, heat advisories could still break records for today. temperatures are going to be very, very hot, especially spilling farther to the east, places like louisiana, mississippi, alabama. we're looking at temperatures feeling like the triple digit today. actual temperatures will be in the triple digits for some places. dallas another day in the triple digits, 102. we start to see temperatures fall in some of these locations, still above november and still very hots but at least we're seeing temperatures trending in the right direction. it's going to be another dangerously hot day today. this heat wave still going strong. >> jennifer gray, appreciate the update. thank you. we also have politics this morning, a lot of politics. presidential election after all, there's new polling in that 2024 race. i'm going to caveat this
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literally every day until november of next year. polls are a snapshot. polls do not tell the whole story. we are a long way from the first caucuses. we are a very long way from election day. >> were you raising the roof john avlon? i haven't introduced you yet. >> you guys should see what he just did. >> it's the raising of the roof. in the critical battleground state of pennsylvania, president biden, president trump just about even. in wisconsin the latest poll, critical poll this that state finds biden leading trump 52 to 43. that polling comes as donald trump continues to maintain front runner status in the gop primary despite those growing legal threats. chris christie slamming trump last night to our kaitlan collins on cnn calling him a grifter for using fund-raising donations for his legal defense. >> he's going to middle class
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men and women in this country, a and they're donating 15, 25, $50 because they believe in donald trump. they're not giving that money so they can pay his personal legal fees. he's a billionaire. he's a billionaire self-professed billionaire. >> why do you think he's not using his own money to pay for his legal fees? >> because he's the cheapest person i've ever met in my life. >> joining us former federal prosecutor john avelonavlon, ambassador to the youth for raising the roof. cnn political analyst for cnn, and jessica washington, senior reporter for the root. jessica, i want to start with you. we have seen chris christie level a number of kind of different attack lines at former president trump over the course of the last several weeks. this is one that i found interesting because it gets at the core of his supporters themselves, and this idea of you continue to hit a button that
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oftentimes you hit a donation button and it's a repeat donation. you don't even know it's repeating month after month after month. he's taking their money. he's not using it for his campaign. that would seem to resonate to people that don't necessarily like that. do you think it does ? >> i think it's difficult. it's hard to imagine a situation where trump's base leaves him over something that chris christie says, particularly calling him a grifter. these are not new attacks against donald trump. this has been going on since the 2016 election, even before then. i think it's difficult to imagine that chris christie is going to be able to hit that note with his supporters. >> there's something else that i thought was interesting if we can play a little bit more of his interview. this is when he's talking about mistakes he made last time around in terms of not going afternoon trump early enough and what he thinks the other candidates need to change this time. here it is. >> this isn't new, the boxes
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thing. we would get on trump's plane and the first thing that would happen when he sat down is keith would go and get that box and put it in the seat next to trump, and trump would open the box and start going through the papers. when they call up his beautiful mind boxes, the staff called him i. knew exactly what they meant. it was like a security blanket for him. >> sorry, that was not what we're looking for, but let me -- what he did say is we didn't go after trump enough. we allowed a certain air to settle in that became impossible for us to change or overcome. do you think that he will convince more of his rivals in this primary to go after trump in the way he is? >> yes, i think he's opening the door. i think he's got the charisma of common sense in his convictions and that authenticity reads in politics and all these other candidates tiptoeing around donald trump, that projects weakness. you need clarity. you need to play offensive politics. it's always the best defense. donald trump understands it.
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others thing you can co-op part of the base. the reason i was raising the roof, i think we do spend too much time on -- i think christie has done himself really a lot of favors beginning with the cnn town hall by reminding people he's actually a pretty unique political talent. he speaks clearly. he cares about policy and he's telling truth. that itself has a charisma. >> elliott, we talk about the legal issues constantly. we don't talk about them through the lens of puncturing kind of the core base of trump support. i don't think anybody's naive enough to think that would happen. i think the trump team knows that as well. as cases, plural, county to unfurl, more reporting comes out to go with the indictments we've already seen, if you're an independent voter, if you're a republican who's maybe not totally sold on the former president, even if you like the policies, what r you thinking about as you're seeing the legal issues in terms of severity? >> i see someone get indicted
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and think, wait a second, perhaps this individual isn't the best standard bearer for the political party i might belong to, right? >> it's a novel -- it's a novel concept. >> having sort of lived in that world for quite some time to me it seems undeniable. but i certainly could not tell people how they ought to vote. now, i think if you break the cases up into a few different buckets, a number of them involved people, so let's take new york and new york, the district attorney and atlanta, these are people who ran for office committing to prosecute the former president. and to some extent there was more of a political pal hanging over the cases. >> which has been a criticism. there's some merit to that criticism. >> it's an entirely valid criticism, when a prosecutor runs for office attacking an individual they intend to prosecute.
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that's fair game for them to pick on. the documents case, the possession of documents at mar-a-lago i see as being in a different class, one, because the proof is straightforward, and two, because the former president is on the record not saying you're going to convict him, but he's on the record saying he possessed the documents and he's on the record saying he's aware of their sensi sensitivity. i think as a criminal matter it's far more straightforward. >> you know, let's not forget about the common sense of this though. having an indicted standard bearer is not good, particularly if the indictments go cut across some of your core values. fiscal responsibility, national security, caring about the country, patriotism, and yet, donald trump is undeniably sticking. that said, there is erosion, even in cnn's last poll, that people -- some republicans are saying that's too much. 26% say he should not -- he should drop out of the race because of the indictment, and it's likely to get worse, not better. >> 26% of republicans. >> correct. >> and a majority of independents say that as well. says a lot.
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>> you appoipointed to me -- >> i was pointing to you because i was hoping they would show the picture of you in the uniform again. >> that i agree with. that's what i want to talk to you, stay with us, we have a lot more to get to. i think we've got some yankees at the table and baseball fans at the table for only the 24th time in 150 years, baseball fans witnessed perfection. es ta ruiz stands in his way. >> all right donaldson has it, there it is, perfection for domingo german. >> that is yankees pitcher, domingo german. sat down all 27 oakland a's he faced, throwing only 99 pitches on his way to immortality. he's only the fourth yankee to throw a perfect game, and the first to do so sing felix
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hernandez in 2012. carolyn manno joins us now. this is great. i woke up this morning after day after day after day of looking at my phone alerts about the yankees angry most mornings when i wake up very, very early. i was thrilled. can't get enough of it. >> john avlon is grinning from ear to ear and probably wanted to tell this story. her german has had an up and down year. to hear him say he thought this could be a possibility early on in this game was really surprising. on his mind was his uncle who he was really close with. he had been emotional in the cl clubhouse this week. the yankee's ace was masterful. 72 of his 99 pitches were for strikes. you could see the 30-year-old picking up steam as the game went on,. the crowd was on its feet.
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he said he felt a kind of pressure he has never felt in this last inning. the key he said was not to overthrow. just stay within his range. so much pressure, but so rewarding and as john avlon i think just wants to comment on this. you know -- >> we'll allow it. >> it's crazy that the yankees have been so good and so bad, and when they need pitching they don't get it. >> the yankees actually scored runs last night. >> this is everybody. >> this is don larson, david cohen, david wells. it's against oakland. my kids waking up this morning are going to be thrilled. they've never seen perfection. we haven't had it in recent years. this is absolutely extraordinary. >> especially for a guy like this who has had such a tough time this year, facing a suspension, coming back, having terrible outings. to see this moment, his team rallying around him. for him to be able to hold onto
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it until the end, it made you smile. >> i don't think it made you smile. i think it made god smile. when have this scrappy upstart third place new york yankees, we need this. 27 world championships is just not enough. >> not enough. >> not at all. not at all. >> in baseball is the very contained and careful elliot williams, the prosecutor who isn't going to go outside of the lane or be hyperbolic. does exactly that. and that's why we love sport. >> just putting it out there. god is a yankee fan. i don't make the rules, phil, i don't. >> this is fun. >> it's a great story. thanks so much, appreciate it. the u.s. coast guard making a grim discovery, fiending huma remains amid the wreckage. and vladimir putin speaking in moscow this morning as questions remain about the whereabouts of one of his top generals following that revolt against the kremlin. that's coming up next. stay with us.
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one of russia's top generals who reportedly knew about that mercenary rebellion over the weekend in advance is apparently missing this morning. cnn asked the kremlin about general sergey surovikin and where he was, they told us no comment. just yesterday "the new york times" reported that he knew that the plot -- about the plot
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as well as u.s. intelligence knowing and trying to figure out if he actually helped plan it. there have been reports from russian hillmilitary bloggers a journalists that the general has not been seen in days, that he might be under interrogation, and that he hasn't been in contact with his family. nic robertson has this reporting. he's tracking the latest developments and joins us now. nic, cnn also reached out to the russian defense ministry, is that right? >> reporter: we did and they said that can't speak about it. no comments were the words the spokesman gave. today we're expecting president putin to speak to a business development forum in russia. i think we can look at this as another kremlin-esque victory lap where putin does a victory lap where he claims security services came together, everyone did marvelously well, people supported him, people supported the kremlin. the reality is there are big questions out there, not only
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the whereabouts of sergey suro surovikin, who knew prigozhin when they both served in syria for the russian military, prigozhin back then was providing services for the russian military, surovikin was a russian military commander. they knew each other back then. in fact, prigozhin thought surovikin was one of the p best, if not the best general, the only one worthy of a star in the russian military. but this is where the mystery deepens over the weekend. the last we've seen, and you're seeing him here now, surovikin speaking to the camera looking incredibly uncomfortable, appearing perhaps to read from a prompter or a message held up in front of him telling prigozhin to stand down. this is, you know, sort of questionable at best, and it becomes more questionable when you realize a second senior russian officer made a similar on-camera to prigozhin at the same time. this guy was the deputy head of
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russian military intelligence, and guess what, they're both filmed against a very similar background. the wall looks almost identical. so it just raises more questions. were they under duress, were they being held when they made those? these guys don't always appear on camera all over the place, but surovikin in that video looked under duress, and he is somebody who's been fairly close to prigozhin. prigozhin certainly thought he was. >> wow, nic, thank you very much for the update this morning. crews have recovered what they believe to be human remains from the site of the titan submersible wreckage. the coast guard releasing a statement saying the remains were part of the debris and evidence crews brought back from the sea floor. the ship delivered pieces of the submersible to appear in new finland, maryland. five people died when it catastrophically imploded on a trip to see the sunken titanic.
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paula newton is live in ottawa this morning. you've been covering this story. what do we know about the latest in that ongoing recovery and investigation? >> you know, phil, we found out so much yesterday, and obviously the headline for the families is these presumed human remains, which i will say the u.s. coast guard says u.s. medical professionals will now conduct a formal analysis. no doubt, phil, you know, in equal measure, a grim finding but one that may bring a sense of are relief to the families who are trying to figure out exactly what happened and crucially if their family members knew what was going on and if they suffered. really difficult questions for the friends and family. there are multiple investigations underway. and to that end, we saw those large piece s of debris from th titan come ashore at st. john's. the u.s. coast guard cheommente but so did the canadian transportation safety board. they say their investigators have finished collecting relevant documents and the
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relevant interviews with those on board that support the polar prince. the investigation team has taken possession of the vessel's voyage data recorder which has been sent to the engineering laboratory here in ottawa for further analysis. they also say the key here is those pieces of debris that were brought up by the rov, the remote operated vehicle, that they have inspected those. they have cataloged those, but now they are in possession of the u.s. coast guard. what does all this mean? multiple investigations. i want to be clear that the transportation safety board is only talking about safety trying to figure out what happened, making sure it doesn't happen again. in parallel perhaps, criminal investigations both on this side of the border in canada but also the united states, but as i say, phil, a day which was good news for all the investigators involved. one that the grim findings bring it home for the families, profound grief there. >> no question about it. thanks so much. madonna is postponing her
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this morning music icon madonna is being forced to postpone her world tour due to a health scare. her manager said on social media that she spent several days in the icu battling a serious bacterial infection, a source says she is now out of the icu. that's good news skand she's recovering. meg terrell joins us with more. glad to hear she's on the mend. but really scary. >> absolutely. we don't have a lot of details about what happened. we know it was on saturday she developed this infection and went to the icu. as you said on her road to recovery and her manager saying on instagram they expect her to make a full recovery, so that's good news. without knowing a ton of details. the experts i've been talking with, doctors in infectious diseases note that it's one of the most common reasons to go to the icu, severe bacterial infection. it does happen more in people who are elderly or have
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underlying health conditions or are immunocompromised. the word that kept coming up is sepsis. that's something that a severe infection can lead to. it's a life-threatening reaction to that infection. it can cause dangerous drops in blood pressure, it can cause your organs to shut down. that is a concern that maybe this is possibly what happened. we don't have the information, but obviously going to the icu means it was extremely serious and potentially life-t life-threatening. >> you mentioned her manager saying she would have a full recovery, and again, with the caveat that we don't know a lot of the specifics here, which is exactly why i'm going to ask you specific questions. if you're reading this story and seeing kind of the dynamics that led to the icu, you're sitting there saying this sounds terrible. is full recovery in the types of infections when you were talking to experts something that is normal, something that is usually what happens? >> yeah, they noted there can be a broad array of reactions to something like this depending on the person, depending on the circumstances of infection. they said some people do have a full recovery in days to weeks. other people still don't get back to their baseline at a year
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after being hospitalized in the icu. it really depends on the person, so everybody obviously is really rooting for madonna. >> she's been such a picture of health, like she exercises a lot clearly and so lopehopefully ths all going in her favor as she fights this off. thank you very much. >> thanks, guys. bud light says it's ready to move on after slumping sales . also, president biden laying out bidenomics, he says the media came up with the term but now they're embracing it. what does it actually mean? the details ahead.
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>> bidenomics is about building an economy from the middle out and the bottom up, not the top down. and there are three fundamental changes that we decided to make with the help of congress and have been able to do it. first, making smart investments in america. second, educating and empowering american workers to grow the middle class, and third, promotpro promoting competition to lower costs. >> let's bring in christine romans. it's really interesting, it now has the name, sort of how obama care got the name. this is bidenomics. but it is meant to be the opposite of reagan-esque trickle down. >> building the middle class from the middle out and the bottom up and really focusing on that part of the economy, and that's the way they've been framing it. and the president yesterday saying rightly, more than 13 million jobs have been added since he's been in office. there is record low african american unemployment, record low unemployment rate for hispanic americans and a record labor force participation for women, the president saying half
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of the labor force are women and two-thirds of the smart was a little -- joe biden, you were there. all these things are true, and the white house this week put together this sort of framing of it, average job creation per month to show just what's been happening in the rock and roll job market that we have right now. of course it's distorted a little bit. >> i was just going to say covid. >> covid hit here, and so millions of jobs are lost, and then the economy bounced back -- the economy bounced back and millions have been added. when you look, you look at the job creation we've had. we had a very, very strong job market. on that the white house is definitely right. >> i think it's so interesting that the numbers tell the story but the majority of the people aren't buying the story. >> that's right. so you look at these -- you look at these investments, once in a generation investments over the past couple of years, infrastructure, bipartisan infrastructure there. the semiconductor industry really much needed advances in there, clean energy credits, high speed internet access, lower costs for seniors, and then you look at the polling,
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and so there's this disconnect, and i think that's why they're trying to brand bidenomics and go out on the road and really sell it here. one of the reasons i think it doesn't resonate is because inflation is the thing that every week people are still feeling. inflation is down 11 months in a ro row, this is year on yooer consumer prices. prices are up from last year, people feel that. >> swith an inflation picture like this and people not thinking he's doing a great job in the economy, they're still pushing the economy as a huge focus. >> presidents get too much credit and too much blame. when you're trying to take part credit for one part of the economy. >> they've got a long runway before the election. the ceo of anheuser busch says the company is ready to move forward after boycotts over its partnership with a
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trans influencer tanked its sales. they launched a new ad yesterday focussing on the people who helped make the company's beer. bud light lost its top market after partnering with dylan mulvaney. cnn business and politics correspondent vanessa yurkevich is here. i've been fascinated by the tangible impact this has had on the business of anheuser busch on bud light specifically. the ceo saying they're ready to move forward, how? >> this is the ceo of anheuser busch trying to move the conversation away from the controversy and back to the beer and the people that make the beer. 65,000 employees that help to bring bud light to americans across the country. this controversy really had financial impacts on the company and some scary impacts. there were bomb threats and harassment against employees at breweries. sales of bud light tanked 24% in the week ending june 3rd and bud
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light is no longer the best selling beer in america, a title they've held if more decades. cr the ceo went on cbs mornings and talked about how he plans to move the company forward. listen. >> as we move forward, you know, we want to focus on what we do best, which is brewing great beer for everyone, listening to our consumers, being humble in listening to them, making sure that we do right by our employees. take care and support our partners and ultimately make an impact in the communities that we serve. >> and part of that support is financial support to all of the people, all of the distributors, all of the farmers that are helping to bring bud laight to america's tables, and part of this is giving actually distributors about $0.20 to $0.50 per case because of the loss in revenue that they're seeing, including to help support them on fuel costs and also really looking to beef up their marketing around the
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employees trying to move the conversation away from the controversy. but this has lingered for months now. this wasn't something that happened on social media and stayed there. this has had significant impacts on the companies, and people on both sides, conservatives and the lgbtq community are upset with the company saying they haven't done enough in their respective ways. >> i know you can't separate the cultural from the business, but i find it are from a business perspective to be fascinating. i feel like we've seen things like this happen and it doesn't have a tangible bolt ttom line impact. this had a tangible impact, and they're trying recover from it. thanks so much. "the wall street journal" is reporting that the chinese spy balloon that floated over the u.s. earlier this year and was shot down, it's actually carrying american made equipment to spy on americans. also, philanthropist melinda french gates focusing and putting a lot of money behind getting more women elected to public office. she joins us to tell us about
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first let me say public office is really important to have more women and people of color in state legislatures, in local city councils, and also at the federal level because when you get women and people of color in these state houses, they make new policies for society. they change society. >> that is philanthropist melinda french gates. she's of course a cofounder of the bill and melinda gates foundation. that foundation has given away more than $70 billion in grants. a long-time advocate for women and girls, she is now focused on getting more women elected to public office. french gates explains why in a recent op-ed, quote, only one in
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three state legislatures in the u.s. is a woman, and at the federal level it's closer to one in four. there is evidence that women govern differently, working more collaboratively across party lines and introducing legislation on issues that have his torically gone unaddressed. i spoke with her about those efforts, also her concerns with ai and life after her very public divorce with bill gates. >> so you start this op-ed in time writing in 1976 annabelle clemente brian ran on the slogan a woman's place is in the house and the senate too. why is so much of your effort and your money going to getting more women elected? >> well, because i believe women should have their full power and influence in the united states, and in 2019 i made a billion dollars commitment to ensure that really starts to happen more, with more momentum, and
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i'm just seeing that we aren't there yet. down, too often we have decisions being made for women, not by women, and as she said and also as ruth bader ginsburg said, i believe women should be every place that decisions are being made, and that's just -- we're just not there yet as a country. >> what's interesting about your effort is you're really keenly focused on state legislatures, why? >> well, i'm focused on making sure that women have their rightful place at all levels of governing, but state legislators are particularly important. there are 7,000 seats at the legislative level at states. they control $2 trillion in resources, and they make really important policies and laws that affect everyone in their state. so really focusing there where there's so many seats, but also for those women who do want to go on and be in the halls of congress it's a great training ground. >> democrats and republicans you want to help across parties?
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>> of course. we need our government to represent all of us, and we have different points of view depending on what state you're in, depending on your political leanings. so absolutely, both sides of the aisle. >> former republican congress congresswoman liz cheney was quite blunt speaking in new york this week, here's what she said. >> what we've done in our politics is create a situation where we're electing idiots. [ laughter ] [ applause ] and so i don't look at it through the lens of like, you know, is this what i should do or what i shouldn't do. i look at it through the lens of how do we elect serious people, and i think electing serious people can't be partisan. >> i'm wondering if you agree, if you think that electing more women helps solve that problem? >> i think we need to make sure that everyone in this country's voice is represented, so whether
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that's a female, whether that's a male. we have to realize we just aren't there yet. one this three state legislators are women. one in four are women in congress, and yet, we're 50% of the population. how can we have 16 million black women in this country but zero black senators? so we know that point of view isn't being represented, and we need to do more to make sure that women are represented. >> i obviously couldn't help notice you wrote this, this was published really at the one-year mark of roe versus wade being overturned. was that a coincidence? >> not at all a coincidence. i mean to have a law on the books for almost 50 years around women's reproductive rights and then have it rolled back, and when you really go and talk to and do the research about what do americans believe, they believe that law should be in place. so to me it was a decision,
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again, where a decision made for women, not by women. we should never roll back a law like that that has to do with women's health. that's a very private, hard, emotional decision. the government shouldn't be involved and hasn't been involved in 50 years, so why would we change that? >> this reminded me of something you said a long time ago when i spoke to you. you said that your mother taught you set your own agenda or someone else will. does all of this really stem from that, set your own agenda or someone else will. >> yes, because the agenda being set by the united states is being set by a group of people that doesn't represent all of us, and what we know is that women when they come into halls of power, they introduce new pieces of legislation that have historically not been there because they have a different lens on society, and so this is about making sure we set the agenda for all the american people.
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our democracy should represent us, and it does not today. >> so in all of my years of interviewing you, you have never endorsed publicly, am i right, a candidate? >> i think that's right. >> does this -- does that change now, melinda? >> no, i have given personal resources and continue to give personal resources to many candidates on both sides of the aisle, but i don't endorse a specific person. >> can i ask you why, if you're really putting a lot more money and energy behind politics and getting women elected and behind causes that you're passionate about, roe versus wade being overturned as an example, why not publicly endorse if there are candidates in this next cycle that you think are necessary in office? >> because i vote in any election on both sides of the aisle. sometimes i vote republican, sometimes democratic, i'm a very independent voter, and i don't want to be pegged as one or the other. i think that the best policy is made when we reach across the aisle, and so i think if i come out for a particular candidate, they're going to say, oh, she
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always supports republicans or she always supports a democrat, and that's just not true. >> so many people are focused on artificial intelligence now, and you've been warning for years not just about what is ahead with ai but about bias built into ai, and you've equated it to the bias built into the constitution, right? who was the constitution written by. how nervous are you that that could be playing out again when it comes to ai? >> i'm very nervous because we don't have enough women, again, who are computer scientists and who have can expertise in artificial intelligence, and without that, we will bake bias into the system. again, the system needs to take all people's points of view and see society and quite frankly, see the world writ large as it is. when you have women at any of these places, when you're creating something, when you're making this decision, when you're setting a law, you're bringing that perspective of society that is just so vitally
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important. >> you have, melinda, described this moment in your life as incredibly joyful. so many people in america and around the world have gone through painful divorces. can you talk about a little bit about your journey in finding this joy? >> i think, you know, you have to look for it every day. even when you go through a painful time, which i did for several years, you gather these moments of joy during the day and then you reflect on them at the end of the week. and so i happen to be in a situation now in life where i have a granddaughter. my three children are out of the house now, and so i just really surround myself with family and friends who bring me a lot of energy and joy so when i do go out in the world and do this kind of work or i travel to places that are very difficult, i can lean into that joy and lean into that network of family and friends that support us. >> i think, poppy, we talked
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about this a little yesterday after the interview and i'll acknowledge candidly i went back and was watching the feed in our system just because i was very interested in the actual interview itself, but you mentioned it yesterday, and i want to follow up on it because your perspective on the non-endorsements, particularly when you take a very straightforward line on roe versus wade, and i've seen a lot of people with a lot of money in politics try and strike this middle ground and within a year or two, their grand efforts have completely faded away. what was your -- >> why doesn't she endorse? i think you heard her say there because she's not just a democrat, not just a republican, she's an independent, but you could still endorse certain candidates. i think she doesn't want to alie alienate people. i think she believes that she can make change without publicly saying who, not just with money but with resources, with the writing that she does. but it was really interesting. it's just been fascinating over the last decade to watch her evolution in terms of such supportive women and girls as
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you heard the timing of this was not a coincidence at all. i think you're going to see and hear a lot more from melinda gates on this front. maybe one day she will endorse. i did ask are you going to run, is she going to run? >> not a chance. >> that seemed pretty obvious. thank you. it was a terrifying emergency landing in charlotte where a delta flight touched down without its landing fweer. we gear. we're going to show you that moment and what it was like for the passengers inside. n, try downy free & gentle downwny will soften your clots without dyes or perfumes. we're going to show you that moment a and what it was like f the passengers inside. and gentler on your skin. try downwny free & gentl . this thing, it's making me get an ice bath again. what do you mean? these straps are mind-blowing! they collect hundreds of data points like hrv and rem sleep, so you know all you need for recovery. and you are? i'm an invesr...in invesco qqq,
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