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♪ and just like that, two hours down, one to go. 8:00 a.m. on the east coast. we are so happy you are with us. there is a lot of news -- >> i know, because of the baseball. >> yeah. you are pretty cool, too. >> oh, thanks. perfect game. perfect pitch for the yankees. we will tell you about it in a little bit. but we are two hours away from the supreme court expected to hand down major decisions that will affect the entire nation. the justices saved some of the biggest and most consequential opinions for last. what is left from affirmative action to student loan relief for millions of americans.
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>> we are hearing this morning presumed human remains were discovered inside the wreckage of the doomed "titan" submersible. medical experts set to analyze the potential remains. the latest on that investigation into the catastrophic implosion. plus -- >> i believe women should be every place the decisions are being made and that's just -- we are just not there yet as a country. >> our conversation with melinda french gates as she vows to get more women elected to public office. this hour of "cnn this morning" starts right now. ♪ it is decision day. take a look. we will pull up live pictures. there you go. sun rising over the supreme court this morning. huge decisions are come down two hours from now. the justices have left some of the most consequential cases for
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last. can a person's race be used as factor in college admissions. will the court allow president biden's student loan forgiveness program to go forward and a web designer who refused to create a gay website o so many big decisions like they always do. they leave them until the end. i find it interesting about all three of those cases is just how many people they directly affect immediately. >> it's so true, poppy. and we will know within the next 48 hours likely just what the justices say and do that will affect so many people. i'd like to pick up with the important racial affirmative action on campus because that's going to have so many practical consequences in classrooms across the country, and also goes to a very big large question about american
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identity. let me just play that out, given that in some ways it goes all the way back to brown v. board of education in 1954. the question is whether admissions officers on campuses can take into account an applicant's race with other factors in deciding who gets coveted seats on campus. and since 1978, in a decision by the name of bachky, the supreme court said that admissions officials can look at race but they can't do quotas. that decision has always been controversial, but yet it's the model for what our higher education system has done. and the justices appear to have a majority to roll that back. it wouldn't be just rolling back the 1978 decision and the 2003 decision that really robustly affirmed the idea that race-conscious admissions are
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important for campus diversity. it could be undercutting in some ways the promise of brown v. board of education from 1954 and integration. let me sketch out the counter idea. it comes from chief justice john roberts who said in the education context the way to stop discriminating on basis of race is to actually stop discriminating on basis of race, stop racial discrimination by stop looking at apkants' race. he has been strong about this principle that we have to move away from considering race because that will actually help america move forward. the other idea, the one that's prevailed since then, is the idea that you have to take into account race to actually end racism and to fulfill this very important ideal of campus diversity that will then play out, poppy, in businesses, the military, and education across the country. >> joan, i think poppy makes a
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good point when she talks about the wide scale of people that these decisions could affect. one of those issues is religious liberty as well. what's your sense of kind of how that's going to play out? >> that's another one where we've seen a pattern wrong the justices, phil, where they have been more open to claims from religious conservatives. in these cases we have a christian website designer who does not want to make wedding websites for same-sex couples and then we have a former postal worker who was disciplined after he refused to work on sundays. and i think in both those cases the justices are going to be sympathetic to those claims. the question, phil, will be how wide will they sweep. >> all right. joan, as always, big day, days ahead, thanks so much. we want to bring in cnn political analyst, national politics reporter for "the new york times," elie hone ilg, cnn
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analyst and senior correspondent at "the grio." natasha, we ended our last segment with you talking about -- we were talking about the issue of equity, the biden administration, and one of the things that i think they point to regularly put the first black woman on the supreme court and that is progress, that's them saying they are delivering on that agenda promise. this is a supreme court which they don't control but i think the idea of affirmative action being front and center now, everything that joan just said, and you made the point of the issues the administration may not be getting at are the ones that touch people's day-to-day lives. this one of those issues that connects whether you are for it or against it. what's your sense how this plays out? >> it's a huge issue. we have seen the experiment of this before in california in 1996, affirmative action was taken away from public universities and within a year you saw 50% drop in black and hispanic students going to these
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selective public universities. and so there is sort of this obsession with if you take race out, then everything will be about merit and that's not the reality in college admissions. we have policies around legacy admission. if someone in your family went a university, you get a bump that process. even if you take race away there may be complaints or lawsuits as universities trying to implement race-neutral policies. so again it's far from over even if you take race out of the decision-making and admissions. >> we heard joan talking about the precedent that was set a long time ago and affirmed powerfully in 2003. it was justice o'connor in 2003 when blaet that in greta versus bollinger. she said, yes, race is important. there is a diversity, a compelling state interest to preserve it so the court has a
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role, et cetera. at the end of that opinion she said there needs to be a sunset, say 25 years, when we have to come to terms with the fact and she pointed to the 14th amendment that said that we have to do away with government imposed discrimination. we are very close to that 25 years she was pointing to. the question now is what does this court do because it's a completely different court than when she wrote this. >> yes. that change has come up with this court. when you think about voting rights and the roberts court on voting rights, there was a question around that kind of imposed formula was necessary to make sure that the kind of government way of eliminating discrimination was still needed, right. and so i think this court is wrestling with the continued question of how to -- how to deal with continued discrimination and i think for folks who really prioritize this as a way to, you know, kind of feel equity in the country, this is the court that has kind of stepped away from those values.
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when we think about the conservative cart largely, there is a question of legitimacy. they have seen the public sentiment shift on this court. when you have the voting rights decisions, specifically kind of shift that, i think it opened up a new space -- >> just -- >> to natasha's point. there is a couple of questions that affect folks like lives in a tangible way. >> right away. >> right. and those are the things that really color how people view the court -- >> and i should -- >> student loans and college admissions, those can completely undo or upend that kind of legitimacy or kind of confidence question in the court even as we have had these decisions that may have gone different than folks expected the last couple of weeks. >> i didn't mean to jump on you there. justice o'connor told her biographer that that may have been a misjudgment three years after michael brown was killed. essentially, maybe it needs to be more than 25 years, maybe we
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haven't progressed as much as we hoped. >> you think? how long was slavery? 25 years seems like an arbitrary number with when my father is still alive and he desegregated a school? syracuse, new york, upstate new york. our sense of what it takes to create equity, to sort of have this starting line that is equal is not reality for so many people and this idea that, you know, somehow there is not merit in considering race and considering the whole story again just doesn't reflect the reality of people's lives. >> also say when you get in these question how long do we leave programs and provisions in place, you have a national tension. the voting rights case, that's a case where the supreme court said we no longer need to have certain areas of the south run their -- >> shelby? >> yes. justice ginsburg this the famous line, said getting rid of these protections because everything is okay now, is like getting rid of an umbrella in a rainstorm
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because you are not getting wet. i think we will see some of that play today as well. >> i think what's important from a political perspective we have seen in the last -- ask wisconsin supreme court voters whether or not these cases have a tangible effect. supreme court has been a central issue since 2016. no question about it. but individual decisions have had a major effect on voters and we have seen it play out. these are cases where it could. we had chris christie on last night. the republican kind of primary field is kind of working through itself and the reality remains donald trump is still the frontrunner by a significant margin and i want to play something that chris christie said to our colleague kaitlan collins last night and get your reaction to it. >> we didn't go after trump early enough and we allowed a certain narrative to set in about donald trump that then became impossible for us to change or overcome. and so, look, he has been a major world figure for the last
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eight years and so we're not going to be able to knock down his numbers or shake some of his support. i have been in the race for three weeks. in three weeks. but we have, you know, seven months until the first people vote and my message will be heard by then. >> that intervies so interesting and kaitlan did a great job with it. go watch because i think it lays out so many that's kind of swirling around the 2024 gop presidential field right now and where these tension points are, right. so you have something like ron desantis that isn't going to directly go after trump as much as he, you know, as much as chris christie, who every answer, right, this is what he is building the whole thing on. i was there at faith and freedom which was evangelical voters, a cattle call -- >> it's not a pejorative term, by the way. >> no, there are no cows. but everybody parades through. chris christie spoke and it was
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a very trump-friendly crowd and they booed him as i know you guys talked about and but it was worth noting that behind me a couple of people were like, yeah, yeah, so there are sprinkles of that throughout. it is telling to see chris christie now talking about this, here we are in 2023, he was in the 2016 cohort. for him to say we didn't go after him soon enough, remember everyone thought everyone else was going to take trump out. >> and no one did. >> and no kwun did, and here we are. is it too late? i think that's the question. i think that's what chris christie's getting at. >> he is pinning the whole candidacy on it. is it? >> it was a fabulous interview. at one point kaitlan asked about what about people like asa hutchinson or will hurd who are not going after him? do you think chris christie can convince candidates like that? >> he has to if it he is trying
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to create that permission structure he is talking about in order for talks to talk about donald trump in a more explicit way. there are not enough republicans who are anti-trump because the republican party remains a kind of pro-trump electorate. there are not simply enough republicans -- those folks have left. they have been voting for democrats. the party has shifted in the last ten years where it was forcing those candidates -- there are pockets that exist within the party. it's not folks -- to be able to win the nomination, i was talking to the "times" chief polling advisor about this and he said specifically he was like you have to combine anti-trump wings to be able to overtake his coalition. and that requires some folks who are in the more moderate camp that may speak to an asa hutchinson or chris christie and also requires the folks voeding for ted cruz or ron desantis this time around and anti-trump
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for different reasons that aren't ideological. you have to cobble together a coalition that overtakes him. that means being anti-trump by itself is not enough because they don't have enough of those people in the republican party. and so i think we can kind of overcomplicate it a little bit. the republican party is not anti-trump. and for top down, they know that. and so when you're at the revenuesrnc, they will say that openly it has to include some part of donald trump because the voters want that. >> that's the loyalty pledge? >> exactly. thus, the inability to talk about him directly. thus his ability to skip out of the debates. that's based on the fact that he has an electorate that is largely with him. >> dude, you should have a podcast. >> he does, right? >> all right. everybody stay with us. we got a lot more coming up. the "titan" submersible wreckage recovered. what officials are looking at.
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a week after coast guard officials he determined the "titanic"-bound vessel suffered a catastrophic implosion killing all five people onboard crews recovered what appears to be human remains and large portions of that "titan" submersible. those remains will be examined by medical professionals. in the united states, paula newton from ottawa. good morning to you. tragic day. they knew it was coming. to actually discover human remains, what can you tell us? >> yeah, absolutely, poppy. so many significant developments. as you highlight, very tough for the families. yet a measure of comfort knowing
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the remains were found and that will help in the investigation. i also want to point out there are several investigations here. we got a statement from the transportation safety board headquartered in ottawa. they gave us details on the investigation. they said investigators have finished collecting relevant documents and completed the preliminary interviews with those onboard the support vessel "polar prince." you remember that is the mother ship to the "titan." the investigation team has taken possession of the vessel's voyage data recorder and sent to the tsb engineering laboratory in ottawa for further analysis. given the large pieces of wreckage that the coast guard has that they have reviewed those, they have catalogued them and they now are in possession of the u.s. coast guard. this is going to be a complicated investigation. but the fact that they have such large pieces of wreckage, they have the data recorder, they also have human remains which will be very important to the families so they actually
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understand a tiktok, a minute by minute of what happened and that their family members didn't suffer any pain. all of that so important. i want to highlight several investigations, not the least of which may be criminal investigations which are yet to come, although that is not a sure thing. most of the u.s. -- what the u.s. coast guard is doing and transportation safety board in canada make sure that submersibles are safe and whether or not more regulation is needed. >> thank you for the reporting and the update. all right. parts of paris are burning for a second night after a 17-year-old was shot and killed by police. how the french government is reacting to the protest and violent clashes. live in paris next. so you only pay for what you need. that's my boy. ♪ stay off the freeways! only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪
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40,000 officers as more unrest is expected. melissa bell is live in paris with more. melissa, clearly they expect more. what are you hearing right now about how this goes forward? >> reporter: phil, what we are seeing in nanterre, the neighborhood to the northwest of paris, where first of all this tragic killing took place on tuesday morning, young nael was just 17 years old. what's emerged is video evidence showing the moment the police stop happened and showing the contradiction with tpolice's initial version of events. that fueled that anger. the young boy was killed really instantly, pronounced at an hour after that stop. that has fueled that anger that you are seeing now beginning to bubble up. there is a march going on in that suburb of nanterre that was called for by nael's mother on this just a few days after the kill and after two very violent
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nights where you are quite right, phil, the violence has only increased. that march really an expression of the anger. you have to understand that here in france, the system, the way the state is made, it chooses not to look at questions of race, ethnicity, and becomes very difficult and has been traditionally over the years to investigate any incidents. i am afraid here the french police have had form of traffic stops and identity checks that go wrong. that is what you are seeing now in that suburb of paris, pent-up anger that authorities fear had spill into tonight for yet another night of rage and destruction, phil. >> all right. melissa bell, keep us posted. thank you. music icon madonna forced to postpone her world tour because of a health scare. her manager revealed on social media she spent several days the icu with a serious bacterial infection, but he says she is expected to make a full recovery. that is good news. a source says she is out of the
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icu. her celebration tour was scheduled to kick off july 15th in canada before heading to the united states and europe. her manager says they will announce a new start date and reschedule shows as soon as they have them. any moment we will have the new weekly jobless claims. economic data. kwa this they show and impact on the economy. plus -- >> i vote in any election on both sides of the aisle. sometimes i vote republican, sometimes democrat. i don't want to be pegged as one or the other. i think that the best policy is made when we reach across the aisle. >> philanthropist melinda french gates on her shift towards politics and who she is focusing on getting elected to public office.
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the add all levels of government. >> i believe women should be every place the decisions are being made and that's just -- we are not there yet as a country. >> back with us, natasha, jessica, christine, good morning again, guys. i was struck by a lot of things. i wasn't surprised that she took sort of this mission of politic. what was notable, she said it's no coincidence she wrote this op-ed making had announcement one year to the mark after roe v. wade was overturned. >> absolutely. >> it's about policy. >> yeah, it is about policy. a lot of women are uncomfortable with the idea that people that don't have our lived experience are making laws about our bodies and dictating what we can do. it's not necessarily as she said about where you fall, but making sure that women are in the room with these decisions. globally, we are not leaders. america is not the leader in terms of promoting women at the
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national government level. we rank 66th in the world. there are no black women in the senate despite is the fact that there are millions of black women in the country. >> no black or indigenous women elected governor, as she points out. >> that's right. we are playing catch-up where women were left out of the democratic process so long. organizations like she should run exist or the campaign school at yale because there is a political ambition gap. it's not that we are not qualified, but someone has to cultivate that interest, that sense we can do it. >> also make it possible, right? like there are so many impediments to women, especially women with young children, being able to run. >> creating the conditions in terms of -- and i don't want to take a side here, but men are convinced that they are qualified for literally everything -- >> you can side with women me day. >> that's not a feeling. >> research has -- >> there is also not kind of the
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mental aspect or how people feel or think about things, real life. if you are having kids, like it is a lot -- i am sorry, it just is. i don't know if i am allowed to say it is. you guys carry a lot more weight and there is a perception of you have to do x, y and z and that gets in the way to some degree. >> yeah. look, being on the hill, you know this, so much of their lived experience like what you are talking about impacts the bills that they are going to put forth, what they get behind, and if you don't have that lived experience it takes groups or people coming to you and trying to plead with you to do x, y or z. so more women across the board is a better thing. representative government should be representative of the country it serves and we are seeing more of it, but to natasha's point, we don't have a black woman in the senate. kamala harris was there. now vice president, obviously. we are seeing more. but, you know, i think about katie britt, the senator from alabama, she has young children.
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tommy duckworth, young children. it is hard on fanny packs and people -- families and people to serve. that goes for dads, too, but also to run. running for office is tough. and they come after you and it's not always an enjoyable experience. >> i don't cover the hill. you guys do. but we sometimes see people who are business leaders, right? ceos, et cetera, then go on to run for the senate, et cetera. there is always been a dearth of woman leading businesses. the number i think is 10.5 of fortune 500 companies run by women. >> there are more ceos maimed jim -- >> that's a fact. we talked about this for. jim or john or something. there are more jjohns. that a real shame. you are seeing better representation now and that pipeline i hope will get better. but it's -- it's just shocking to me that covering biankaing
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for 25 years, you know, 25 years ago we were like, wow, we have a pipeline of great women managing directors and we are going to have all these ceos someday and there is like one. >> jane frazier. >> yeah, one. there is one. that was 25 years of trying to develop women. so we have a lot of work to do. >> this is why affirmative action exists. we talk about in the context of race, but gender applies, right? in the workplace, letting women know that they are qualified or cultivating that talent pipeline when you look at research it starts to fall off as girls go from school to college and hen into the workplace. they start off thinking i can do it, and then there is this messaging that feeds into lack of -- >> listening to them, katie porter, for example, we just had nancy mason last week, a single mother of teenagers and those lived experiences inform how they legislate. >> not to change the subject, but you have economic data. you have been excited to talk to you about it. we were looking at our phones during the break. so tell me about the economic data. what do we get? >> first quarter gdp 2%.
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a big revision. a stronger first quarter than we had thought because the consumer, the consumer, look at that, 2.6% in the fourth quarter, slow down to 2%, but we thought this would be 1.3. so this is stronger. consumer and exports. so the economy is still pretty stable leaning towards strong here and then jobless claims low. 239,000 first time unemployment benefits. what that means in english, there aren't a lot of layoffs. you hear about layoffs in tech, in banking and media, but we are not seeing it and people are actually going and filing for unemployment benefits. this is a strong job market. good news for main street. a headache for jay powell and the fed. they have to keep raising interest rates for -- >> give me your favorite saying about the recession. >> is this what recession feels
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like? bartender, pour me another. >> i love it. run-dmc helped usher in the golden age of hip hop. hall of famer darrell dallas mavericks mcdaniels next. i wish i would have introduced the fresh food a lot sooner. after farmer's dog, she's a much heaealthier weigh. she's a lot more active. and d she's able to join us on our adventures. get started at betterforthem.com
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♪ ♪ you know it. i don't have to tell you. you know it. one of the most iconic and earliest mainstream hip hop hits by run-dmc. what about "walk this way" the collaboration with aerosmith. run-dmc gave them a second life, arguably, changed american music forever with that one. ♪ walk this way ♪ ♪ talk this way ♪ ♪ walk this way ♪ ♪ talk this way ♪ ♪ i told you to walk this way ♪
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>> that because one of the first hip hop groups to be inducted in the rock & roll hall of fame. run-dmc defined hip hop. and american culture, for that matter. tonight darryl "dmc" mcdaniels will take part in the main event in cleveland to honor the music genre's 50-year anniversary and the new in depth exhibition of hip hop called holla if you hear me. i was looking, ll cool j stuff there. the some of the items that be will on display and joining us president and ceo of the rock & roll hall of fame greg harris and hip hop icon, the hip hop icon, co-founder of run-dmc rock & roll hall of famer darryl "dmc" mcdaniels is also the author of darryl's dream which poppy and i will be reading to our kids soon. thanks for joining us. darryl, i want to start with this because i was watching your acceptance speech or induction speech when you were inducted in the hall of fame and a lot of the notes that you guys made
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resonated with me. the idea of hip hop itself and where it has come over the course of 50 years, like the genesis of it i think d.j. back to school party with his sister or something like that. the evolution of it. what stands out in your mind when people ask you how did hip hop get to this point? >> well, hip hop is just basically music. it's a culture. we was inspired by rock, pop, pop, funk, so r&b, jazz. so grand master kaz probably the greatest rapper ever. he said this. hip hop isn't anything. we reinvented everything. so we were those kids watching ""soul train"," "american bandstand." so we was influenced by rock and roll. and if you listen to hip hop before it was recorded, before rap "rappers delightning" and the
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early songs, the live performances of grandmaster flash, the funky four plus one, the treacherous three, the cold crush four, the fantastic five, every emcee, every emcee prophesied this is from '73 to '79 before "rappers delight," every rapper said these words. one day my name will be found in the hall of fame. so it was a prophetic creation that came from the spirit of these young boys and girls in new york city, more importantly the bronx, who the world thought had nothing, but inside of them was this beautiful music. >> you know, i am so glad you said that because i was touched when i was reading that you talked about growing up in new york city and you said, when the reality of the struggle of life brought hell, music brought heaven. >> music brought heaven.
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rock and roll brought us heaven. soul brought us heaven. jazz brought us heaven. rhythm and blues brought us heaven. >> greg, acan i ask you, the event tonight, there is a bunch of stuff that happened around the 50th anniversary. i think it's a big event in new york and a month or two as well. what does tonight represent. what should people be looking for? >> it's the 50th anniversary of hip hop and it's -- this is the premier exhibition that's going to celebrate that. we are going to cut the ribbon on this thing tonight. it will be open all summer at the rock & roll hall of fame in cleveland. and there is a major significance in this. we are the premier music museum in the world. we have been open 28 years. we had 14 million visitors have journeyed to cleveland to experience this. hip hop is, as darryl said, hip hop is the, you know, powerful, powerful synthesis of so much
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that came before it. but it's the most important cultural art form in music that has bs made today. it really resonates around the world. and this is going to tell that story. by the way, on the hall of fame reference, not only were the other artists talking about it when run-dmc made one of the earliest videos, it was about being inducted in the rock & roll hall of fame -- >> yes! >> didn't exist. >> crazy! it didn't exist. we had larry from "the david letterman show" saying, you guys can't come in here. this is a rock and roll museum. that was in '85. and then '86 it came to fruition. >> so this exhibit, like this is for anybody that loves hip hop, they are going to see their favorite artists, special stuff from the vault, special art facts. they will feel that connection. that's what music does, connects us. people that don't know hip hop that well will learn about it and feel it and understand how fits into the continuum of rock
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and roll and it's all one big family. >> understand this though. i have been traveling this world forever globally. people say, when stephen tyler took that mic stand in that "walk this way" video and knocked down that video, that happened in the world for real. that's what music does. >> i love that. let's open it up to the table here. >> on that note, if i could, darryl, honored to talk to you. when you all dropped "raising hell" in the mid '80s that was the first album that blew up and hit the suburbs and spoke to kids like me. did you had understand at that moment how much of an impact that record >> noing, not really because the reason why are the raising hel" is one of the best if not the best hip-hop album ever, we
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were trying to get the approval of the deejays, rappers before us. we wanted cool moe d to say we love you guys. love what you're doing. we had no idea it was going to take the world by storm. >> you got through to me, too. >> when you looked back at the scope of a long and storied career, for you what's the highlight, the peak moment that defines your relationship to hip-hop? what's the moment you're most proud of? >> i think the moment we're most proud of, representing hip-hop. i'm not a pioneer, a legend. i'm a participant in hip-hop. i think moment besides being inducted into the rock and roll hall of fame was 1985 when we were called to participate in live aid. bill graham said i will not
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participate and work with y'all if you don't have run dmc here and a lot of people on the board of live aid said why do you want those guys here? rap is a fad, they're not going to be here in three years. but for us to be chosen to participate in live aid, with tina turner, mick jagger, it showed the world that we were a legitimate form of entertainment, like everybody else. >> darryl, for the young people who have something to say who fever perhaps they can't break in the industry, they're commenting on social issues, they have substance but feel modern day hip-hop wants them to be something else, what would you advise them? >> here's advice to them, study david bowie, bob dylan, janice joplin and run dmc. look at what we did, look at
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what the world is doing, and do whatever it is you like doing. play that beat, write that verse, do that dance, paint that painting. that's what you have to do. >> we need to learn to manifest like darryl. >> yes. >> it didn't exist yet and yet you manifested the rock and roll hall of fame. >> exactly. just get up and create, it's art. it's for everybody. >> made our morning guys, just like that darryl mcdaniels, greg harris, thank you. darryl, huge congratulations. what a career. >> thank you. rock on. >> rock on indeed. guys don't forget pick up darryl's dream we're going to get it for our kids. pick up his new children's book and watch tonight. >> i'm so fired up right now. this also fired me up. something happened that hasn't happened in 11 years, perfection. see the moment the yankee star
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can we talk about perfection? every professional athlete strives for it, rarely achieved, wednesday night, domingo german was perfect. >> ruiz stands in his way. grounded to third, donaldson has it. there it is, perfection! >> amazing that was -- amazing that that was the last play. >> last play. the 24th person ever to throw a perfect game in a major league
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game, did it against a team that hasn't been no hit since 1991 and owes a lot to the team around him. especially anthony rizzo you see the diving stop in the fifth. he becomes the first dominican player to retire 27 straight batters and the fourth yankee pitcher to do it. i love it. >> i love it too. favorite story of the day we agree on this one. i love this, simone biles is coming back after withdrawing from the tokyo olympics. she's set to compete in the u.s. classic in august outside of chicago. >> it's been used as a soft launch for comebacks in the past. biles has won 7 olympic medals, including four golds over the course of her career . >> and we want to end the show today saying good-bye to one of our teammates, one of the
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favorite people in the studio. cameraman mike stein, he can't come on camera because he's running the camera we're using right now. he's been at cnn for more than 20 years. he's retiring today. we wish you lots of love and good fortune and lots of sleep in the near future. also mike is a huge new york rangers fan. can you see the screen? look up -- mike look up, that's your name and jersey. look at that. >> that's in our studio. what you're seeing there is a rangers jersey in our studio, retired. not an islanders or devils jersey. >> they just announced their 2023/2024 asked so mike you may be able to catch a few of those games now. thank you for all you've done. cnn "news central" starts now.
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