in a cnn exclusive ukrainian president zelenskyy says the war will not be over until ukraine

takes crimea back from its russian occupiers. zelenskyy also taking a swipe at vladimir putin, calling him weak, just as putin is about to make his first appearance since the revolt on the world stage. a violent holiday, a mass shooting at a block party in baltimore kills two people, dozens more hurt. police this hour still searching for at least two shooters. plus, if it seems like the crowds are really, really, really a lot in the airport, well, travel records have been broken. you're right. the tsa just screened the most passengers ever for a single day, right now we're tracking the july 4th travel delays. i'm sara sidner alongside john berman, kate bolduan is off. these major stories and more all coming into "cnn news central." ♪ this morning one-on-one with

president zelenskyy. in a cnn exclusive zelenskyy says vladimir putin is weak and calls out the russian president's vulnerability. his words will be fresh in putin's mind as he makes his first appearance on the world stage since the wagner mercenary revolt. ukraine's leader tells cnn's erin burnett the world will not end as long as crimea is occupied by russia. his quote, we cannot imagine ukraine without crimea. crimea is also the center of a stunning new assassination claim. russia overnight accused ukraine of trying to kill the russian-backed crimean leader. in another development new details on the trip cia director william burns recently took to kyiv. zelenskyy saying his talks with him should always be behind the scenes as burns reveals the war is now helping the u.s. recruit more russian spies. several developments to cover for you now, we begin with zelenskyy's reaction to putin's power.

>> mr. president, you know, you recently said that you have dealt -- and i will quote you the way it quoted -- with different putins, it's a completely different set of traits in different periods. now, of course, he's faced a rebellion, an attempted coup from yevgeny prigozhin. have you seen any changes in -- in how you think he's acting, in his behavior since the attempted coup? >> translator: yes, we see the reaction after certain wagner steps. we see putin's reaction, it's weak. firstly, we see he doesn't control everything. wagner is moving deep into russia and taking certain regions shows how easy it is to do. putin doesn't control the situation in the regions, he doesn't control the security situation. all of us understand that his whole army is in ukraine. almost entire army is there, that's why it's so easy for the wagner troops to march through

russia. who could have stopped them? we understand that putin doesn't control the regional policy and he doesn't control all those people in the regions. so all that vertical of power he used to have just got crumbling down. >> do you believe he's fully in charge of the military right now when it comes to your front line and this counteroffensive, do you believe putin is fully in charge of the russian military? >> translator: i don't think he fully controls all the processes. he gives orders to the commanders. it's understood. they are scared to lose their jobs, but he doesn't understand and doesn't control the middle layer of the russian military, nor the lower ranked officers and soldiers. >> you can watch erin's full interview with zelenskyy wednesday night at 7:00 p.m. eastern. john? >> so zelenskyy also told erin he was, quote, surprised when his most recent meeting with the head of the cia made headlines.

a u.s. official told cnn that william burns visited kyiv last month, but it's clear this morning that zelenskyy felt that sit-down should have stayed secret. cnn national security reporter natasha bertrand joins us now. this gets to sometimes how difficult it is to actually be allies, natasha. >> that's right. there are many reasons, of course, why zelenskyy would not necessarily want these meetings with the cia chief to be public. remember that russian president vladimir putin has made it a point to repeatedly say that the war in ukraine is a cia u.s.-backed, western-backed operation and that russia is essentially fighting against the u.s. and nato. so the fact that he is meeting with the cia chief really on a regular basis of course he would rather keep private. look, the cia director william burns he has traveled to ukraine many, many times since the war began, including as recently as january that we know of, and his main goal every time he goes there we are told is to essentially reiterate that the u.s. is committed to sharing

intelligence with ukraine about russia's moves on the battlefield and zelenskyy and the ukrainians tell the u.s. and william burns and u.s. intelligence officials the information that they need in order to better prosecute the war against russia. what we're learning of course is that bill burns when he went to kyiv, he did have these conversations with zelenskyy and he also said separately over the weekend that this is actually right now a boone for the cia in terms of recruitment from russia because of the dis affectment that so many russians are feeling with vladimir putin's leadership and the war he's carrying in ukraine. here is what he said during a conference in england this weekend. >> disaffection with the war will continue to gnaw away at the russian leadership. that creates a once in a generation opportunity for us at cia. we're very much open for business. >> reporter: so the ukrainians have limited how much intelligence they share with the

u.s. because, of course, of that major pentagon leak that we saw earlier this year where all of those classified documents and information including information about ukraine's war planning ended up online but the u.s. has not curtailed its intelligence sharing with the ukrainians, they have said they are going to give ukraine the support that it needs in order to be as successful as possible on the battlefield, john. >> all right. watching this closely. natasha bertrand, thank you so much. joining us now for more on this, ellen fark can us, the executive director of the mccain institute. thank you for coming in this morning. i want to start with ukrainian president zelenskyy's words to erin burnett. he said that the war is not going to be over until ukraine can take crimea back from its russian occupiers. russia has been in there since 2014. what does this tell you about just how long and protracted this war may be? >> well, share ration i mean, it

tells us obviously that it has been long and protracted and it's in our interest to stop the -- you know, the bloodletting and to bring this to an end as fast as possible. interestingly when he says that he wants to reclaim crimea, it doesn't mean that he has to do it by military means, but he has to make enough military progress to either break the russian military and cause them to flee, which i don't think they will flee crimea, so ultimately really the second option is at the negotiating table. and that has to be his best hope. but we're far from that right now, as you can see on the battlefield there's not enough progress being made and they need air cover, the ukrainians do, and they need longer-range missiles, the so-called attack ums we have yet to provide them. >> we saw this attempted mutiny and zelenskyy came out and said, look, from my view putin looks really weak. do you agree?

>> well, yes, it definitely demonstrated that putin was weak, he was unable to stop a military force basically from getting close to moscow. having said that he's clamping down now so it doesn't mean we are going to see a swift change in the government and it could take a while for putin to really ultimately lose all of his power, you know, there will be a day when vladimir putin will no longer be ruling russia, but we don't know when that day will come. he's definitely weakened and people will take advantage, but i will just caution one more thing, sara, is that behind the scenes the ukrainians and others are warning about the zaporizhzhia nuclear plant, that the russians are planning another, you know, sabotage similar to what they did when they blew up the dam also in southern ukraine. so i'm very worried about that. also in light of what your earlier reporting was saying about how much control putin has and how much the military has, i'm worried about what's

happening there. >> i want to ask you about that control. we know that two generals now have sort of disappeared from public view, including, of co course, a third person, the head of the wagner mercenaries, yevgeny prigozhin. what do you think putin is up to now in russia when it comes to his military brass? is he purging? what is he doing now to try to strengthen his ability to fight this war in ukraine and to keep power? >> i think he's -- he seems to be hesitant to purge his minister of defense and the chief of armed forces and that's because these two men have been loyal to him all along and that's the most important thing for putin is this loyalty. the other thing is, of course, he doesn't want to show that prigozhin was right and that he somehow caved to prigozhin because prigozhin's number one demand to vladimir putin was that he replace those two men. so i think that putin will be trying to figure out how he can purge below those two.

there have been reports of other military -- members of the military who were close to prigozhin, so he will be looking to see if those individuals had communications with prigozhin in the run-up to the revolt and he will put them in jail or perhaps worse. >> can i quickly ask you your thoughts on the cia chief going in-person, meeting with zelenskyy, and the words that he used about, you know, basically the door is open for us to create russian spies. how significant is this moment? >> yeah, i mean, it's really startling and good for him. i would say, sara, that, yes, these meetings probably shouldn't be public because, as zelenskyy said, they create a narrative that's not helpful, but, you know, the cia director is absolutely right, there must be a lot of disgruntled russians and now that they see that vladimir putin is weaker than they thought, they will probably look for ways to exercise their

freedom of operation, if they're greedy they will inform to the cia for money, if they are patriotic and they are upset with how the government is running russia then they will inform for that reason. >> evelyn farkas, thank you for that analysis. that was great this morning. thank you. former vice president pence responding to reports that donald trump pressured the arizona governor to find fraud in the 2020 election. how pence is now describing those calls. florida governor ron desantis under fire from inside his own party for this aggressive video that goes after donald trump's stance on lgbtq rights. and new details about the convicted arms dealer who was set free in the prisoner swap for wnba star brittney griner, now he's running for office. ♪ tourists tourists that turn into scientists. tourist taking photos that are analyzed by ai.

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my opinion, in a criminal trial. i mean, you take a look. who knows? but it certainly looks that way. >> trump, of course, now finds himself in that exact situation. he was charged with 37 federal counts for allegedly mishandling classified documents after leaving office. he pleaded not guilty. this morning former vice president and presidential candidate mike pence admits he called then arizona governor doug ducey after the 2020 election, but claims there was, quote, no pressure from trump to ask for ducey's help in overturning the election results. cnn previously reported trump repeatedly pushed pence to help find evidence of voter fraud and stop the certification of biden's win. cnn's kristen holmes joins us now. once again a former president and former vice president and two current presidential candidates face questions about the last election, kristen. >> reporter: that's right, john. here is what we knew, we did

know that former president trump had talked to then arizona governor doug ducey, that was made clear to us, doug ducey confirmed that at that time. we learned over the weekend from sources who learned about this from ducey himself that privately he said that trump had pressured him to find results of fraud or evidence of fraud to overturn the 2020 election. we also learned from sources that pence had called ducey on multiple occasion toss talk about the 2020 election. we were told by sources close to pence that there was no pressure involved in that, that he was trying to see if there was any evidence of voter fraud so that he could then report it up to president trump. take a listen to what pence said about these calls. >> i did check in with not only governor ducey but other governors in states that were going through the legal process of reviewing their election results, but there was no pressure involved, margaret. i was calling to get an update, i passed along that information to the president and it was no

more, no less than that. >> reporter: and, john, as we know and we've reported this multiple times and it was very public at the time, former president trump was putting an enormous amount of pressure on then vice president pence to try to find any indication of fraud to overturn the 2020 election results. obviously we know about this other call to the georgia secretary of state raffensperger, that was recorded, this call with the arizona governor was not recorded at the time. raffensperger has met with jack smith the special counsel investigating trump's actions around the 2020 election. he has not reached out to doug ducey about their interaction. john? >> important to note that. kristen holmes, thank you so much for that reporting. sara? >> republican presidential candidate and florida governor ron desantis is facing criticism this morning after his campaign shared a video slamming donald trump for vowing to protect lgbtq rights. transportation secretary pete buttigieg who was the first openly gay cabinet member reacted on cnn. >> and i'm going to leave aside

the strangeness of trying to prove your manhood by putting up a video that splices images of you in between oiled up shirtless body builders. i just don't understand the mentality of somebody who gets up in the morning thinking that he's going to prove his worth by competing over who can make life hardest for a hard-hit community that is already so vulnerable in america. >> cnn's jeff zeleny is live in washington, d.c. it isn't just the democrats who are coming after desantis for this ad that was put out, is it? >> reporter: good morning, sara. no, some of the republican rivals, including former new jersey governor chris christie has come out trying to referee this or actually try to rise above it. let's start at the beginning here. if you may have missed this over the weekend the desantis campaign sent out really a copy of a tweet of this video that was going back to 2016 when then candidate donald trump was

speaking out positively about supporting lgbtq rights in the wake of this shooting at the pulse nightclub in orlando. of course, where scores of people were killed. so that was one of the comments, he was saying he would support the rights. and then this went on. what is happening here is governor desantis is trying to run to the right of donald trump, he's trying to appeal to some social conservatives in this republican primary. he's also trying to get attention, perhaps first and foremost here in this long summer where he's having a bit of a slog here trying to overtake or even compete with the former president. we heard chris christie with dana bash yesterday trying to rise above all of it. >> it is a teenage, you know, food fight between ron desantis and donald trump and i don't think that's what leaders should be doing and it certainly doesn't make me feel inspired as an american on the fourth of july weekend to have this type of back and forth going on at

all. >> reporter: and the back and forth was sort of bizarre. you have to see this video to really understand it, but it was a spliced copy of some comments from the former president mixed with some images of brad pitt and others from videos. so you can see it on the screen there. just kind of a bizarre thing that voters clearly are not basing their votes on, but the florida governor is trying to run to the right of donald trump on this matter and others, but, sara, it really raises the question here by doing so really a homophobic comment with the log cabin republicans, the republican groups saying this is nonsense and it's hurting the candidates for a general election when they need to reach out to some of those moderate and independent voters as well. >> yeah, very interesting to note. and we are playing the ad silently on our screen. you can see all those images there. >> reporter: right. >> thank you, jeff zeleny. the search is on for multiple suspects involved in a

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on our radar this hour, nearly three dozen people were injured when an suv plowed into a roadside bar and restaurant in new hampshire. it happened sunday afternoon in the town of laconia. police say a three-car crash in front of the building sent one of the vehicles crashing into the restaurant.

none of the injuries are believed to be life-threatening. now to houston, a young man who was missing for more than eight years has been found alive. rudy ferrias was just 17 years old when he disappeared in march of 2015 while walking his two dogs. texas center for the missing says he is recovering in the hospital. it is unclear where rudy has been or what his injuries might have been in that hospital. now, in new york buffalo bills safety damar hamlin will hold a cpr training class at yankee stadium today. for the last few months hamlin has been a multicity tour to distribute medical equipment and promote techniques that help save lives. we all know why. the 25-year-old went into cardiac arrest after making a tackle during a game in january shocking everyone watching, it happened on the field. first responders performed cpr on hamlin who had to be revived. john? >> good on him for using this moment to spread important potentially life-saving

knowledge. new developments this morning in the shooting at a baltimore block party. it left two dead and 28 injuries. the two killed were a lee a gonzalez and kilas vagmemi. police are searching for at least two suspects. gloria pazmino is in baltimore with the latest. good morning. >> reporter: good morning, john. what unfolded on saturday night was a scene like many other around the country right now. we are in the middle of the holiday leading into july 4th and people had gathered here for a block party. this was supposed to be a celebration of community and the families that live here, but it became deadly shortly after midnight. that's when police say shots rang out, two people are dead including an 18-year-old woman and a 20-year-old man. 28 people were hurt by gunfire. many of them teenagers, some as

young as just 13 years old. now, as you said, police have not identified a suspect or house spects yet, however, they believe there are multiple people behind this shooting. now, we heard from mayor scott earlier this morning, he was encouraging the community to come forward and share any information that they might have about this incident. also critical about guns all around the country, not just here in baltimore, saying that this is a problem across the entire country. >> we will not rest until we find those who cowardly decided to shoot up this block party and carry out acts of violence which we know will be illegal guns, but we -- no further updates will be given, a press update later today with any new things, but as of right now we are still investigating, going through every single lead, every minute, every second of footage, everything that we have to find

out who decided to disrupt this peaceful event in this way. >> reporter: and, john, i was here yesterday speaking to people who live in this neighborhood who told me it was an absolutely chaotic scene when they heard those gunshots. people running for cover, trying to take shelter, running for their lives. people here are shocked, they were scared and they're sad that this community has been impacted by gun violence. john? >> gloria pazmino on the scene, great to have you there. thanks for being with us this morning. sara? 90 million americans are facing severe weather threats heading into the independence day holiday. powerful storms are expected to spread from mississippi to massachusetts bringing wind gusts, hail and possibly tornadoes in some areas now. a record number of travelers pass through u.s. airports on friday but the weather has created travel nightmares for those wanting to spend the holiday away from home. so far 86 flights have been

canceled today, but that number is almost certain to rise as storms start to pop up across the country. pete muntean is live at reagan national airport where i'm pretty sure he has a private room where he stays. we also have cnn meteorologist allison chinchar. allison, looking at that mad and as things happen where do we expect the storms to pop up? >> there's going to be two separate areas of concern going forward today, the first is going to be across portions of the midwest and the high plains, the secondary area is really just kind of up and down much of the east coast and if you remember some of those are the same areas that were just hit yesterday, again, in total nearly 300 total storm reports. the vast majority being damaging winds but you can see here how many of these areas are dealing with large hail, trees that came down, power lines that were down and also the potential for a few tornadoes. right now the heaviest rain will be across portions of the northeast, but as we transition into the afternoon we get that heating of the day, you're going

to start to notice more of those strong to severe thunderstorms fire up this afternoon and into the evening. for both of these areas. the main threats are still going to be damaging winds, the potential for some large hail and, yes, even some tornadoes possible from minneapolis, washington, d.c., new york, stretching down into atlanta. that secondary wave that is set to come in likely about 2:00 to 3:00 and a lot of these areas is when you're going to start to notice those showers and thunderstorms firing back up. they will continue into the evening hours and even more showers and thunderstorms unfortunately for the holiday itself tomorrow. so if you have some outdoor plans most of these areas aren't expecting a washout, but you will have to be cautious if you have some plans late afternoon and into the evening when the bulk of these severe thunderstorms are really set to impact. you have this other area over here in the midwest and across the high plains and then still dealing with strong to severe thunderstorms say from the areas of massachusetts stretching back into mississippi. the main threats tomorrow are expected to be damaging winds and the potential for some hail,

but also some isolated flooding cannot be ruled out as well. and then in addition to that we still have dealing with the heat across portions of the southeast and then some new warnings popping up out in some western states as well. >> nothing says summer like travel nightmares and big storms. let's go now to pete muntean. thank you, allison. it looks like, dare i say, things are pretty calm behind you there at that airport, but this has been an incredibly busy travel season. >> reporter: yeah, you know, things are starting off relatively smooth, sara, considering the fact that the numbers have been so huge. the tsa screened 2.5 million people yesterday, another 2.5 million people the day before that. those are big numbers on their own but this number on friday 2.88 million people screened at airports across the country. not a pandemic era record, it is an all time record, it bested the big number back on the sunday after thanksgiving 2019.

so we have not seen a number that big since december 1st of 2019. i just checked flight aware, the cancellations and delays relatively low right now when it compare it to last week. 87 nationwide, about 800 delays. think about just yesterday we saw 600 cancellations nationwide and that number really crept up when these thunderstorms lift the east coast and there is a bit of a warning now from the faa saying that we could see ground stops as the day goes on, especially in the afternoon in big hubs like new york and philadelphia and baltimore and d.c., all the way down to miami. the good news says transportation secretary pete buttigieg on cnn is that things are starting to get back on track after all of the cancellations we saw last week. listen. >> we're watching more severe -- potential for severe weather, that's what touched off all of these problems about a week ago. you look at where we were a year ago where even on blue sky days with no severe weather there

were unacceptable levels of cancellations and delays. we have come a long way. >> reporter: last week united airlines canceled the most flights of any airline in the united states and ceo scott kirby has released a new memo in which he says the airline is going to look at its crew scheduling system, will partner better with the faa. kirby put a lot of blame on the faa for the problems and air traffic control scheduling last week he said that's what caused the cascading cancellations for united but also said the airline is going to look at its schedule at newark, that's one of its major hubs. he says the airline just may be putting too many flights through newark. still we are not out of the woods just yet. another huge test for the airlines coming up, all these people coming home all at once and the tsa says when it's all said and done, when you add up every day since before the holiday and through july 5th they will screen 17.7 million

people in total, sara. it's a lot. >> it's a heck of a lot of people. pete muntean, thank you. there's a gentleman who doesn't even worry that he might miss his flight, he's waving, having a good time at the airport. all things are good where you are. thank you, pete. as a reminder if you don't want to deal with travel hassles cnn's july 4th special returns tomorrow night with an all star lineup. celebrate with spectacular fireworks and performances from demi lovato, duran, duran, post malone, shania twain, brad paisley and that's just to name a few of the people ferg. it starts at 7:00 p.m. eastern. john, you can sit on the couch and enjoy it. >> duran duran. "union of the snake." the man freed in a prisoner swap for brittney griner, the man known as the merchant of death is now running for election. as lawmakers debate bans on tiktok over security concerns a new app from the chinese company

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this morning the convicted arms dealer who was set free in a prisoner swap for basketball star brittney griner has found something of a second act in russia. russian state media reports that viktor bout is now a candidate for a far right party in a regional election. cnn's senior international correspondent ben wedeman joins us live from eastern ukraine. apparently being a prisoner, a convicted arms dealer, not an impediment to public office in russia, ben. >> reporter: not at all, in fact, he spent ten years in an

american penitentiary, but back in russia i think that's probably a star on his forehead as far as they're concerned. now, he's a candidate for the liberal democratic party of russia which of course it's important to note it's nearly liberal more democratic. this was a party that was long run by a very flamboyant figure. in fact, back in 1997 i interviewed him in baghdad, an interesting interview. after telling me he loved journalists so much he wanted to strangle them, he did gift me a bottle of vodka with a label with his face on it as well as a party t-shirt. now, this is an ultra nationalist party that believes that russia is a natural super power and that russia as it stands now should be restored to its so-called natural borders, which including all of ukraine, belarus and central russia. and this is a party that is very

strongly in support of vladimir putin and his war in ukraine. now, it's important to point out that the seat that mr. bout is going for is in a distant region in the russian hinter land and it's just a regional council. so even though it represents something of a return to public life for him it's a pretty insignificant seat he's pursuing, john. >> who knows, it could be a stepping stone to something else. ben wedeman, always good to receive a gift, even from someone who apparently wants to strangle you. good to see you this morning. thank you. sara? well said, john. now to france where protests continue to flare after a teenage boy was killed by police during a traffic stop. police detained at least 157 people overnight. believe it or not that wasn't as bad as some nights prior, but

some 45,000 security forces were deployed across the country in the sixth night of demonstrations. france has been gripped by violent demonstrations following that shooting. french president emmanuel macron has condemned the shooting of the teenager, calling it inexcusable, but he says protesters, he believes, are exploiting the teen's death. nic robertson is in paris for us. there is a message being sent by the boy's grandmother. what are you hearing? >> reporter: she's calling for calm. she's saying her grandson is dead, but she says stop the violence because you are damaging your own communities and this is a sort of an outgrowth of that in this community where the mayor was targeted over the weekend in his office behind the razor wire the protesters couldn't get in. they targeted him in his house, his wife in there with the young children tried to escape, she broke her leg badly. so people here in this particular suburb of paris have come out here in a show of

solidarity for the mayor, for their communities, for the sense of what nael's grandmother is saying, don't burn the buses or city halls, we all rely on that, your mothers rely on that. that's one of the things we have heard from the government as well that so many of these protesters are young protesters, 2,000 detained, average age 17, some as young as 13. the government's message is to parents to keep your children indoors. they've treated this as a security problem beginning to turn their attention to some of the underlying concerns about racism within the police force, but this today is really all about a community coming out in support of their mayor when he is in trouble and coming out with that message like the grandmother just saying it's time to stop, stop burning the buses, with he all need them, let's get on with life and that does seem to be the trend. the violence far less last night than the previous night and the previous night. that seems to be the direction at the moment. they're ebbing away these protests. >> you have mentioned many times this isn't just about the

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this morning, mississippi and georgia are joining the growing number of states to ban tiktok on government-issued devices. van vanessa cavich explains. >> have you heard about lemonade?

>> yes. >> you are known as? >> sister snacking. >> reporter: they had not heard of it. >> it is the lemon 8 is the cross between tiktok and instagram. >> reporter: this is another tiktok that has 150 million users in the u.s., and compared to lemon 8 who has 100,000 active users and creating a community where people are also owned by bytedance for influencers of dancing and food

and makeup. >> we encountered same thing with tiktok. >> reporter: and now bills are swirling around congress that foreign countries could access user data through social media apps. >> i became the ceo of tiktok. >> reporter: but when the ceo of tiktok testified before congress, he was not concerned about that data being accessed. >> reporter: but mark warner said, today, we are talking about tiktok, but new apps are popping up constantly, and we need a new strategy to address them, and no more whack a mole. >> i think that they are seeing the writing on the wall for tiktok, and they are looking for

other apps. >> i was skeptical, because i had never heard of it. >> reporter: but now she is exploring what lemon 8 could be, but it is no rival to tiktok yet. >> the buzz of lemon8 came from the almost removal of tiktok. a lot more people are talking about it now, but it is solely because of that mini scare that we all had. >> reporter: and where the consumer are, brands follow. >> social media has driven to awareness, and it is accounting for most of our sales. >> reporter: the brand euphoria has found its brand on tiktok, and now looking to lemon8. >> it is to create a social media platform and looking to pick up a platform. >> we willare still looking to

if it is going to be the platform for us. >> reporter: we asked if they share in data privacy concerns as tiktok, and they said that the good outweighs bad. many of influencers started on tiktok, and they have a huge following, and they say that it is not there yet, but the power and the strength of lemon8 is the connection to the parent company bytedance, and that they have seen what happened with tiktok, and so they are keeping an eye on it, and trying to stay up with the platform. >> being hip is a full-time job. thank you, vanessa yurkevich.

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