former vice president mike pence says he does not recall donald trump putting any pressure on him to ask arizona's governor to find fraud in the 2020 election. he does recall making calls to

the governor and he did pressure the governor to make changes to the election. more problems and growing holiday headaches as a recor record-breaking number of americans travel. and drones in the air, and other violence on the ground between palestinian and israel. this is cnn "news central." this morning, former vice president mike pence is defending his former boss, and rival in the 2020 presidential candidate donald trump. pents say pence says he called ducey and

he did asking him to look into the election, and we have kristen holmes looking into this. >> so we do know that there was a phone call with president trump, and representative due si. now, i did learn from a certain familiar with the conversations, that due si said that the allies pressured him to find fraud in the as as, and trump lost by 11,000 votes, and pence had called due si and he wanted to

know if there was visible voter fraud to return it to the president. pence was asked about that this weekend and this is what he said. >> i did check in with not only governor ducey but other governors in the states to go through the states to for the results, but there was no pressure involved. i was asked for the update, and i passed it along to the president. no more, no less than that. >> i do want to note one thing about the trump call to then governor ducey. of course, as we know that we reported on extensively, a call from trump to secretary of state brad raffensperger in georgia to get more votes which was recorded. and the action of the 2020 election has interviewed raffensperger and he has not

reached out to doug ducey about their interaction. sara. >> and it is interesting of what may happen, and kristen holmes, we will reach out. john? >> presidential candidate ron desantis is receiving criticism after there is a video released with everybody from chris christie to pete buttigieg and the "boston globe" criticizing this video. now, puts a side the way that this video is produced with greased up body builders and ron desantis, but who is the target audience here? >> well, your guess is as good as mine, john. it is not people in iowa or people in new hampshire or republican voters even.

it is so online. this is not the first time that you have seen this account tweet out, not necessarily theer that is kind of flailing, honestly. they probably thought they would be further in the contest, but they are stuck. so it is really just serving to upset a lot of people on the republican side, frankly. you have to log cabin candidates come out to condemn this, and no response from the campaign at this point to this very odd video. >> alice, is there room to the right of donald trump on this issue saying that former president trump is too tolerant towards gays? >> let me start out with no offense, john, but i'm in new hampshire where they consider the "union leader" the paper of

record. >> come on now. >> and clearly, ron desantis is picking wrong fight with donald trump. there is no room in the gop to try to out-woke each other when you are the top two candidates, and donald trump with the republican primary voters, he does not have a problem with the diversity, election and inclusive, and it is calculation that these issues that are worth bringing, and in broadly, the voters know about this, and the contrasting message with donald trump should be winning, and that he won re-election, and donald trump didn't. it should be his success, and the economic realm in florida, and how he handled covid, and

tourism, and real estate is thriving in florida. and drnesantis has a better chae if he stuck with those issues than the woke issues. >> so why does he seem scared to take donald trump on directly of those issues, and the indictments and things like that? >> so, one of the great examples happened on friday. desantis addressed moms for liberty which is a group that is open to desantis' openness from them. he received a number of cheers. then donald trump showed up, and it was everything stop, lines to get pictures with him, and multiple ovation, and the crowd completely changed. just the almost celebrity type

environment there. he cannot get a foothold against the former president, and to -- >> well, let me quickly ask about, you know, there is trump, de desantis, and also, trump/pence which is interesting to face in the primaries and the doug ducey phone calls, but how much of the campaign, and how much of those two men, alice, will be surrounding the 2024 election? >> well, it certainly remains to be seen, and look, it is an interesting article out by marc caputo in terms of the last election, and the indictments coming forward and the voters in the state of iowa are looking at

what is happening with donald trump, and he might possibly win iowa not in spite of the indictments, but because of them, and people are furious with the way he is being treated, and so we will see that trump is going to be leaning in on what he calls weaponization of the doj and him unfairly treated, and that is resonating with the voters for some reason, and for those who want to have a candidate to win in the general election, and they are looking at pence, desantis or scott or nikki haley, and looking at mike pence and what he did to stand up for the election process, and not standing in the way of the certification of the election results, and he is getting a lot of credit from rational republicans, and he did the right thing, and he is out there talking to the social con conservative voter, and he is

better served to talk about that and education, and social safety across the nation. >> have a great weekend. and transportation secretary pete buttigieg is looking at things improving, but most of the delays were from severe weather which cannot be helped, and this is a record as 50 million americans are going to be traveling this holiday weekend. both of the airlines and the head of the transportation are feeling heat. we go now to pete muntean who is live at reagan international there. how are things faring there? last hour, things were looking pretty good.

compare to a week ago, and about only 900 delays now, and the day is young, and the faa is warning that as the day goes on, there could be ground stops in place likes new york, philadelphia, d.c., and charlotte with a big hub, and atlanta with big hub for delta all of the way down to miami. we saw the cancellations really rise yesterday as the bad weather started to hit the east coast, and 600 nationwide yesterday. so the good news right now, things are relatively quiet, and we have turned page from the big cancellations of last week, and transportation secretary pete buttigieg on cnn says that things are starting to get back on track. listen. >> we are watching the more severe potential for weather which touched off the problems a week ago, but looking a year ago on the blue sky day with no severe weather, there were unacceptable levels of

cancellations and delays. we have come a long way. >> in connext, last summer, memorial day to labor day, the airlines canceled 50,000 in total, and last week, the airline to cancel more than any other carrier, united. today, they have canceled 1% of all of the flights, so getting back to normal like the transportation secretary says, and even though the united president says that they are looking to work in the hub in newark where there are simply too many flights, but there is a lot of people here, sara, and this is key that the tests are not over yet, but the tsa says when it is done, they will screen 17.7 million people at the security checkpoints like this one, and airports nationwide by july 5th. sara? >> that is a huge number, pete

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we are watching the largest military event in the west bank since 2002. an israelis for calling it the largest opposition since 2002 and gun fire could be heard in the streets. this sun verified video which apparently shows several large explosions. we have hadas gold with the latest there. what can you tell us is happening in janen? >> it is the largest military

opposition since the last infi fa infifata. >> reporter: yes, this is the largest since 2002, and started with military tanks and drones, and we know they have carried out 10 air strikes in jenin, and this is where most of the military attention is focused. they said they focused on the weapons manufacturing sites and weapons storage sites. the israeli military is saying that they are trying to only target the militants, and trying to prevent jenin from becoming a

military safe haven. they are saying that the israelis have been behind this operation. and we are seeing this as the second day of the sbi -- i intafata. and we are seeing dozens killed, and looking at the footage from jenin, and streets ripped up, and bulldozers trying to remove ieds, but many believe it is going to be spilled over into something much more broader. and the militants are calling on

this to begin a strike against israel. >> yes, many people are used these happening in some areas, but in the west bank, it is highly unusual. john. >> overworked and undermanned is how one israeli officer is describing the front line of the missile defense. as the global demand is growing, what are we learning? >> yes, the army defense units are the most overworked in the u.s. military, and they are responsible for defending misequities around the world, and they are to defend against adversaries such as china and iraq and iran, and because of

this, they get very little time off between the deployments, and because of this, they are starting to suffer from burnout. and one of the senior officials has started to speak to cnn about this. the u.s. airmen stationed in europe have had to deploy with hours notice to protect the nato eastern flank to train on the defense systems is including patriot defense system. and they are in the region to prepare for a future conflict against china and maintaining the deterrence against north korea, and also the mission going on in middle east. so because of this, 60% of the air branch is deployed at one time, and they have typically less than a year at home after a year away.

as one senior officer said, we have been overworked and underman. the service leaders are therefore becoming increasingly worried that the missile defense troops are becoming stretched. so because of that, they are starting to offer bonuses for these jobs. and because of that, the defense commander in europe said that the number one priority is taking care of the people, the u.s. has a mission to accomplish, and those mission requirements are not slowing down. john. >> tremendous demand, and also a tremendous strain involved. natasha bertrand, thank you. and thrill seekers got a little bit more than they bargained for at a north carolina amusement park.

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the supreme court ruling blocking president biden's student loan forgiveness plan could have an impact on the nation's economy overall. it could have forgiven up to $20,000 for each student. and with this set to expire in september, it will have an impact on goods and services. rahel, what kind of dent could this make in the goods and services, and the things that drive the economy. >> yes, so important for the economy, john. it is remarkable how well the consumer has done so good this last year, despite the increases, and the gas inflation. he put the estimate at $70 billion and he said it is a headwind that is coming out of the economy as students pay back

these student loans. and putting it in the gdp, it is shaving off a quarter of the gdp, and the census that it is not a major blow, but if it is your household, and your budget, it may feel differently. one thing that people are watching closely is the timing of this. when these payments resume in october, it is going to appear with perhap ps a salad that is taking space. so, we had some research from the fed staffers that the excess safings from the pandemic is depleted. so it is the timing of this that maybe this in and of itself is not enough to cause a significant dent to the u.s. economy, but watch the space, because there is going to be a lot of things that happen at the same time, john. >> in theory, shouldn't it be

deflationary? >> well, some have said that, and it is depending upon side of the argument, and will that pull back consumer spending, i am not feeling that it is, because does the biden administration want people pulling bax because they are cash strapped? i don't know. >> and there is a number of things coming together at the same time. thank you for putting it in respective, rahel. and now, at the center of the supreme court's lgbtq rights versus first amendment right, and on friday, the supreme court ruled by 6-3 majority, that laurie smith could create w

website ruling that a man named stewart only listened to designings, and through information contained in the court hoolings that he never made that request, and he has been happily married to a woman for 15 years. to discuss the implications this is e eli hoe anything. so this dris ernlgts and so do they need to go back to the court and look into this? >> realistically, no. they did this to a stipulation, and the parties agreed to certain facts, and this is a hypothetical, and courts are not supposed to do this. they said that she is in the future going to go into be

business and intends to and the statements by this spew worth and you mentioned stanting. the court has agreed to cases that didn't originally have standing. >> and now, initially, she went to the supreme court because of the colorado standing. the court questioned her standings, and she put this new information out that she had been asked for a website in the court filing sglmt and the supreme court decided they didn't need standing or that they didn't need it? >> well, talk about it for a

minute. that is the notion that you cannot bring a case unless you have a actual case or controversy. okay. courts this could happen in the future, and we want your opinion of now. yes. gp, and if you are dealing with the abstract hypotheticals, you will be dealt with in a harmful way of trust in the way that the decisions are made. >> and people disagreed with the ruling, and it is the law of the land now, and people are looking at this, and there were misguided work on the part of the plr in this. >> where the facts were inaccurate in way that and that

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in an exclusive interview with cnn's erin burnett, last month's revolt in russia with the wagner group shows that vladimir putin is weak. >> translator: yes, we see that he is weak, and that he is not controlling everything. wagner is moving deeper into russia, and it shows how easy it is to do. putin does not control every region, and all of us understand that the whole army is in ukraine, and the entire army is almost there, and this is why it is so easy for the wagner groups to go through russia. we understand that putin does not control the regional policy,

and control all of the people in the region, and so all of the vertical power that he has just went crumbling down. >> you can see the full interview of erin burnett, and volodymyr zelenskyy this wednesday. and now we have ben wedeman live in eastern ukraine for us, and what is this saying for the larger issues involving wagner, and where do they go, what are they going to do and how long will they exist? >> none of those questions have been answered, john. i mean, what we saw was a message posted on a telegram channel affiliated with prigozhin which says that they are stopping the recruitment for one month, the wagner group,

because of the quote, unquote, the temporary nonparticipation of the special military operation, which is russian speak for the war in ukraine, and they are moving to belarus, and i don't know if it is approved by the people of, and that he was looking for the military coming to train, and that he would make land available to the wagner mercenaryies mercenaries, and we have seen satellite video that shows that they are preparing a camp, but for instance, yevgeny prigoshin, his future is in doubt. >> and ben, you are in western ukraine, and that has seen most

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cows and other livestock are major contributors for climate change, and cows account for 14% of carbon emissions but some scientists are now arguing that cows can be part of the solution. how? cnn's chief climate correspondent bill weir explains. >> reporter: in the beginning was the buffalo. tens of millions of them wandering land, munching wild grasses and using poop and hoofs to find fertile soil 15 feet deep, but since americans replaced buffalos with cows, pesticides and overgrazing have turned much of this soil into lifeless dirt, but not on the farms where they let cows graze

like buffalo. >> it is mimicking the way that the bison moved across great plains, and so it is the way that an animal has been hit very hard and then they leave it a long time. >> reporter: peter bic is a professor at arizona state university, they believe it is a simple hack. >> i believe we will get pushback, because people don't think that cows can be a part of the solution. >> so not only do you think that cows can be a part of the answer, you took money from mcdonald's. >> i asked mcdonald's for money for this. yes, if we don't fix this, we may never get there. >> reporter: so for this, they

assembled money this. >> insects, and birds and birds. cows, soils and carbon, and spent years comparing traditional grazers, cows going from one field to another, and cut the fertilized grass for hay. and the other side, amp grazers who never mow or fertilize. >> you open up the gate, and they go through, and cooper rolls through a maze where they go from one farm to the next. and they say that farms are pulling down 25% of to carbon and three times microbes, and three times bird life, and twice

as much rain per hour. >> if it is a 1,000-acre farm, it is 50% of the land. >> wow, look at this grass! >> reporter: it is also a human experience to see if respectful data and discussion can change hearts and minds. >> this is grazed 40 days ago. this has not been fertilized in 12 years. >> awesome. >> when we got out of money of not fertilizing, it didn't happen. >> it is a stress relief. we just don't worry about a lot of it anymore. you don't even fertilize when you plant your rye grass? >> nothing. it sounds crazy, but letting mother nature do the work. >> reporter: would it be interesting not to pay for fertilizer. >> yes.

wonderful. >> reporter: curtis spangler says his mind was reached when he doubled the herd and quit his second farm job. >> right now, we dump thousands of dollars into nitrogen a year, and if we change a couple of thicks, we could change that money to put it toward other resources. >> is that something that you are committed to doing, and seeing the benefits of it, and how we could work it. >> so, as we are getting to the high of and there is that is bad for the planet. >> reporter: and this is the way it has been for thousands of years. so this idea is going to meet resistance, but it is interesting to see the farmers who never cross the fence. private and proud, and say, wait

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