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election. >> kristen osborne, and constitutional law a source tells cnn that trump professor at john j college of called than governor dog ducey criminal justice, gloria brown marshall. i don't know, jay, should ducey to pressure him to find fraud in the states results that could switch the outcome. sources tell cnn that then vice not have mentioned this pressure campaign a little sooner than. president pence also called now >> he's between a rock and ducey several times but did not a hard place. you would love to move on so put pressure on the governor's. that he doesn't have to get any negatives from all the people cnn national correspondent kristen holmes has the latest that are still election deniers. but i am struck by somebody details. kristen, what do we know about unlikely heroes in some of the this phone call? >> alison, before we get to stories. people who i may disagree with pence's response to this call, strongly, ideologically, i i do want to get a bit of context around these calls. would never think i would be praising liz cheney or chris we did know at the time the former president donald trump christie or people like that. and then governor of arizona >> mike pence. >> and mike pence but these are people that are standing up dog ducey did speak. against someone who they kind of agree with. we just know the context. maybe not on the election, i learned over the weekend that again, but politically they want the republicans to succeed, ducey has told people behind closed doors that it was a and yet they are taking pressure campaign from the former president to try and courageous stands. rather the political football find widespread fraud to of who met with whom and whatever i'm struck by the overturn the results of the 2020 election the state of public ethics of this moment, arizona. as you will remember, trump was that there are people standing losing by a small margin. up. >> i wouldn't be to strike. about 11,000 votes. i mean, first of all, are we we also learned that pence made
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a series of calls to governor gonna take mike pence in his word? >> he certify the election. ducey at the same time. >> right, okay, he did the bare i'm told by sources that this is not a pressure campaign, the minimum. he did the bare minimum because pence was reaching out to try and see if there was any evidence of widespread fraud, dan quayle told him he had to. >> okay, but he got there. and telling ducey if there was, he saved democracy. to reported it up the >> yeah, but i'm just saying, appropriate food chains. pence was asked about these the idea that trump, i mean, calls specifically this there are so many opportunities weekend. for republicans to be brave and take a listen to what he said. >> i did check in with not only do the right thing, and then you have this governor ducey governor ducey but other governors and states that going saying this former ducey saying through the legal process of reviewing their election this is all in the rearview. no, honey, this is how we got results. but there was no pressure involved. here. it's republicans saying it's i was calling to get an update. all in the rearview, let him play golf. i passed along that information remember the officials saying it's not like he's trying to to the update to the president. overturn the election. now he's running on that. >> professor, this all rang a >> saying there was no pressure to the pressure from the bail to me, because we all president to make those calls, remember the moment that but it's fortunate that something that had been widely governor ducey was, i think, reported, something we read in these transcripts from trump's aides of the time in the certifying the election in his administration, there was state, and his phone rang, so enormous pressure. let's just play this because he former vice president pence from the former president, just had his phone specially overall to find widespread designed to, when he was
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fraud, to overturn the 2020 president trump, it played hail election and eventually not to to the chief, so let's listen certify that 2020 election. to this. so that is important context. the other thing i want to point out about this call is that there's another call that we have reported extensively on. ♪ ♪ ♪ that's the one that is a recording of between trump and the georgia secretary of state, brad raffensperger, in which okay, so professor, that was a he's asking him to find votes to help him overturn the election in the state of moment where the president georgia. united states is calling and he that call is now been subject is, like, i will that call. to the special counsel's and he doesn't answer, it and investigation into trump's handling of january six, the he continues doing the work of 2020 election, and brad the state to certify. raffensperger has met with jack are you surprised that the smith. special counsel jack smith has we have learned that ducey has not spoken to governor ducey not been contacted by jack smith and that there is no there? >> i'm surprised because the recording of this call. the other thing i want to say here is that we do have special counsel has spoken to comments from the governor's others, and there have been, spokesperson, former governor spokesperson, on this, call it there has been this ongoing sense that there's a conspiracy, essentially just says that the governor stands by his action a national conspiracy and to certify the election and arizonian would be part of it. considers the issue to be in the way that the former the rearview mirror. it's time to move on. governor acted was, the teenager with a parent cause but again, it is important to
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and they've called again and know that it is hard to move on. again and i know what this is because the former president is about. now running for office again. a huge part of his platform is so what when i hear former vice that 2020 election saying that president pence say that there was no pressure, if one were to the 2020 election was rigged. continue to call again and a lot of his base still believes that, and it is still again asking the same question, subject of this special counsel that's harassment. that is pressure. investigation, the 2020 election and trump's handling and even though they're asking, of it. is there any fraud, they're so even though former governor ducey may be moving on, the actually understating the real country is not able to do so question was, is there a vote just yet. you can find for me? are there 10,000 votes you can find for me in arizona? which is what donald trump actually wanted. so yes, i believe that what ducey did was courageous, given the fact that as was pointed out, the base will come for them and tear them to pieces and donald trump then begins to have this harassment of ducey on social media editors as man and had presidential hopeful dreams to say i'm just going to leave office altogether. >> jason, your thoughts? >> first of, i don't know, i
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would say downloading a ring tone, especially designing a phone to -- >> thank you for highlighting my technological know-how. the point is, it was designed to know when it was donald trump calling. >> right. but look, it's a mistake to think that that was one, just one call. i think there were probably many calls. i not only fault president trump for doing, that if it was an act of desperation. i would like to think that nobody else would act like that. but he wasn't getting the answers from the people that were making the calls before him, so i'd be curious to see if we can get a list of all the calls that were made in ducey's office, all the other channels to that office. all the other states, as well. mike pence, i have never once heard anybody claim that mike pence is a liar. i take him at his word, and i think mike pence, being a former governor, has a relationship with all the former governors, and he wanted for himself to say, to
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empathize with dog ducey and what he was doing, just as he called i'm sure brian kemp and other governors to get, what is the story on the ground and be able to go back to the president and say there is nothing to be done. but yet trump did not want to listen to any of that and he continued to do the, to the previous person's comment, harass the governors and other elected officials. >> let's move on to what cnn's kfile has unearthed, and i think we will all remember that in 2016, donald trump as a candidate was very concerned about having a potential president who could be under indictment. he talked about it a lot. here it is. >> we could very well have a sitting president under felony indictment and ultimately a criminal trial. it would grind government to a halt. if she were to win, it would
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create an unprecedented constitutional crisis that would cripple the operations of our government. >> well j, it settled. that's how he felt about hillary clinton. obviously he must feel that way about his own possible -- >> is this even a gotcha? the guy himself is a walking constitutional crisis. we've lost track of how much of the constitution, he said he wants to suspend the constitution, literally kind of a hallmark of fascism. he says he wants to weaponize the government go against his political enemies. literally another hallmark of fascism. so i don't even know if this count as a gotcha. that he's accra hypocrite? that he said one thing? before the threat that this individual poses to our way of life, to our country, should really, i mean it's july 4th. we should be celebrating and not being kept awake at night wondering which new article of the constitutional trump is going to try to violate. >> former president trump has really warm people down with
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saying two things at once because people like jay, and a lot of people say there is trump being trump. but he was quite crystal clear that the country could never have a president, a candidate running for president was under indictment. that would be a constitutional crisis back then. >> imagine that he found out that there was someone who had been indicted twice, on state charges and federal charges, and then impeached twice, and that person -- >> he would not have liked that choice. >> he would not of like that. but a lot of the trump stuff was projection. there is this kind of hillary is dangerous for the reason, i mean, he did everything, and remember, part of what is a hallmark of him is that he would also just, you know, lie, and not tell the truth, and anything that would serve his case, he would go along with. >> professor, your constitutional law expert. what do you think when you hear president trump say that in 2016? >> i think about the 25th
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amendment, and i raise this many times before. i think he's emotionally troubled and there is the possibility, and it has been raised before, that if he were to be in this particular position, and for some reason, god help us all, becomes president again, that we would have to invoke the 25th amendment because there are too many mental issues here telling us that this man should not be in office. but i would have to also say, there is nothing that states that he can't run. and there is nothing that states but someone who is indicted cannot run for office. and if it bogs down our democracy, and i'm someone who travels internationally, and i've asked people outside of the country, what do you think of what's happening in this country? we've lost so much credibility around the world because of donald trump. and many issues, as well, but because of donald trump and because of our system, but i will say this one positive
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thing going back to july 4th, we are still here able to discuss democracy, and there are nationalist presidents around the world, and the fact that we still have checks and balances in place, with a very conservative supermajority supreme court, with his appointees there, with so many issues, so i would say we really have to keep this idea of a democracy going and make sure that we understand that we have to be strong and not have him whereas down until we give up and say, you know, i'm tired of hearing about this man. what does he want and when can we give it to him? >> i appreciate you saying all that, professor, because i do think we need to keep in mind our patriotism and we are proud of her that we get to have these conversations every day on tv. jason, your thoughts? >> i'm waiting for the next show where jay shows up and it's his lock him up t-shirt just to summarize exactly what the trump campaign theme was in 2016, but i would hope that he would acknowledge that what he
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said in the past was wrong. i think what he is going to say is that he meant legitimately and it died because he thinks all those indictment are not correct. and i thinks in his mind in there are people around him that are saying look, once again like that you could pardon yourself. even though at least one of the indictments is a state charge but he's going to try and find a way to convince new york that he can be, that he can pardon himself. you know, there is going to be, we've got, i can't even count how many months we have left in this campaign, but at least in the primary season, this will not be the first time that his previous statements come back to bite him and are in direct contradiction to things that he is campaigning on now. >> that's true. but he just felt so strongly about it. that it would be a non prince eventually called crisis will cripple our government. thank you all very much. so, there's a lot of talk about affirmative actions as the supreme court did away with it on college campuses, but what
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about legacy admissions? and those affirmative action for white students? my panel has thoughts, next? ♪ the biggest ideas inspire new ones. 30 years ago, state street created an etf that inspired the world to invest differently. it still does. what can you do with spy? ♪ ♪
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>> a new lawsuit taking aim at harvard's legacy admissions policy. this is hot on the heels of a supreme court decision to dismantle its performative action. this lawsuit accuses harvard of violating the civil rights act of 1964 with their special consideration of legacy students and donor families in admissions. the lawsuit argues that it gives unfair finish to white students based on their connections. the lawsuit states a study by the national bureau of economic research finding that while 40% of harvard applicants are typically white, 70% of legacy applicants or white. the court also found that legacy applicants are 70 more -- likely to game admission. my panel is back to discuss.
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jay, you are a legacy student at an ivy league school. at the time, it was a point of pride. did anyone say to you i know how you got, and you don't deserve to be here? >> as a beneficiary of the old kind of affirmative action, where if you had parents going to the school you got in, unfortunately my parents are not the wealthy donor source to the colombian university, my -- but i was really moved, i think of his joy and read doing a clip, saying she was haunted by the fact that people thought that she was worried people felt like she didn't deserve to be there because she was a beneficiary of affirmative action. i can say for my privilege point of view, as part of it. in fact, there isn't whole elitist fraternity at columbia only for the children of legacies. when people say we should be color blind, it was not a two-way street. this is the kind of extra bonus that people were proud of. it is the opposite of stigma, seen as privilege. absolutely i was a beneficiary. when people think there is a
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neutral ground, i'm not commenting on the merits of the lawsuit. i don't think that they are very significant. certainly it does not matter -- somehow everybody has equal access, that's ridiculous. >> i don't know if you treated this out, but you called it to the attention. this is jfk harvard application as a. former president kennedy applied to harvard and made this argument. i've always wanted to go there, i've always felt that it's not just another college, but that it is a university with something definite to offer. number two, i would like to go to the same college as my father to be a harvard man. isn't an enviable distinction, one that i sincerely hope that i will intend. and he did. as somebody myself who has had a lot of advantages because of my mother, my grandfather, those successes, i think that it is very important to not let people into college because of who their parents are. i would go one further saying that we should be looking at athletes and musicians, and the
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ways in which the administration gets around just looking at people for being capable. for sure, there is nothing to recommend this legacy application, and the reason that it's done is for donations. they think that they will get a more alumni giving if there's a family legacy. maybe that is true, but it's an advantage to the students. >> and also, many of the schools, the very elite colleges have millions, billions of dollar endowments. there, finder going to be fine. >> professor, is so eye-opening to look at this lens. it's a conversation that has happened, i mean, more acutely since the supreme court ruling last week of what is affirmative action, what is an unfair advantage? when you look at it this way, how's legacy not in that category? >> it's very interesting listening to the conversation of the other panelists. hearing how they can barrasso
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casually speak of their advantage, because now it has been years later. when justice clarence thomas is still struggling with what he considers the stigma that he encountered as somebody who gained office, and gained college admission, and other privileges based on affirmative action. they now regret that they have had these privileges, but never gave any of them up. i think that one of my major concerns is, what is the educational connection to legacy? that is what the supreme court is saying about affirmative action, the diversity has no educational component. that's what clarence thomas wrote in his concurring opinion. what is the educational benefit to the college, and to the other students in the classroom for legacy applicants? once again, it will go back to the money that they bring in, and maybe the prestige being a second and third generation. the connections that are being made in these schools is priceless. that is what the parents want.
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the parents want their children to be in classrooms, to go to dormitories, share space with future leaders. the education can be the same, great education found somewhere else. the benefits of being in that environment go well beyond anything that we can find in another situation. i have to say that last fall, i was a fellow in the harvard kennedy school, and i was also a visiting professor there. i saw the resources that harvard had to offer its students. it's not saying that the students there were all brilliant, some of them were very smart, but they were not all brilliant. the aspect now is, how much more are they going to get before they brush shoulders with other people who are going to be those future leaders? the legacy is something that is inherent, i believe that there is something of a racial
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component to it, for so many generations people of color were not allowed to attend the schools. of course, they did not have the legacy advantage that white students, and then white alumni have. but i believe that as long as there are people getting in criminal jeopardy -- but the on the education, it's a step in the direction the top tier people in this country and, being in the 1% as far as but can omicron social achievement goes. but >> it is the network that exposes but -- jason, we have a statement from harvard. the senior communications officer at harvard college, saying that the school will not comment on this specific lawsuit, quote, as we said in the weeks and months ahead, the university will determine how to preserve our essential
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values, consistent with the court's new precedent. that is what she said to cnn in an email. it is interesting, jason, to think that affirmative action has been stigmatizing to people, and it's not just clients thomas. other people have said that they have felt as if people looked at them, i know you how you got there, and legacy was a badge of honor. >> right. i would be hypocritical if i agreed with the supreme court decision but did not agree with the lawsuit coming forward here. i think that if we're going to have an even playing field, as much as possible, because we all realize it's not always an even playing field. we will find ways to get around folks that want to go, there that have legacy, they will find a way to get around it. we had the case a few years ago with folks getting into rowing, or tennis, but or faking surfing people to get into the school. they will find a way. i think that this case, i would like to see it go all the way.
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i'm curious to see how the supreme court will rule on it. i also read something earlier today that somebody suggested they look at the beneficiaries of faculty members and their kids getting into the schools as well. are they getting an inherent advantage because their parents are teaching at those schools? >> there are apparently a lot of interesting ways to get into college with nothing to do with your grades and achievements. we will keep exploring all of that, thank you very much. just ahead, we have an exclusive interview with ukraine's president. what he is saying about his country's attempt to kitchen russian occupiers out of crimea. how realistic is that goal?
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180,000 troops to two major eastern fronts in ukraine. a spokesperson for the ukrainian armed forces say that these are aliases -- the new storm the assault companies recruited the count people with criminal records in their recruits. ukrainian president zelenskyy speaking with erin burnett today about how far ukraine will go to take back their territory. >> we can't imagine ukraine without crimea. with a crimea under the russian occupation, it means only one thing. war is not over yet. >> to be clear, in victory, in peace, is there any scenario where crimea isn't part of ukraine? >> it will not be victory then.
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>> let's bring in cnn national security analyst steve hall and retired lieutenant general mark hertling, a cnn legal analyst. steve, you have heard president zelenskyy there, ukraine will fight until they have crimea back. does that suggest that any hope of any kind of brokered deal, which was spoken of months ago, not lately, off the table? >> no, i don't think it's necessarily off the table. it is obviously a decision that the ukrainians themselves have to make. it is very difficult as a geopolitical decision, a wartime decision. does one decide at the end of the day as a country, a sovereign country, which crimea was definitely part of ukraine, still is as far as the international community is concerned, but do you as ukraine say that i'm going to exchange land so that we can end a war? clearly ukraine is not at that particular point yet geopolitically, and that is what i think you heard the president say, with presidents
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lynskey said. will it come to that point? it is too hard to say, and only ukrainians can make that decision. i think that when you hear western policy makers, whether it is americans or others, say that it is the ukrainians decision, that's not just a political statement. that is actually the truth.deci.
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they're not there yet clearly, but we'll see what happens as the war continues. >> general, we have heard for the better part of a month now about ukraine's big counteroffensive that they were going to be planning, and now
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we hear that 180,000 russian troops moving into these eastern fronts. what does that mean for the ukrainian counteroffensive? but >> it is not that they're moving in, alison, it's that ukrainian commander suggested that he had estimated there were at 150,000 troops in the eastern part of the country. there are military reasons for that, tactical operational reasons for that. i believe that what the russians are doing, is try to shore up the central part because mr. putin cannot afford to lose the donbas. that was the first area that he attacked in 2014. there have been some gains by the ukrainian forces, but in gained back territory in the east. in the donbas region. ukraine also wants to liberate kherson and zaporizhzhia provinces in the southeast. by the russians moving more and more forces into the east, ukraine has to stay there to defend against that. they cannot reinforce some of
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those actions in the south. but we are seeing is what normally plays out on the battlefield. moves, counter moves by enemies, and to try and gain ground. in this case, ukraine is attempting to but -- truthfully, operationalize along a 600 kilometer front. where are the best places to attack? where are the best places to gain ground first? they would like to do it in some ways to the disadvantage of the russians, the russians are reinforcing their lines in the east to prevent them from doing that. this is typical combat activity. >> very interesting to hear aaron talk to president zelenskyy about the short lived coup, the wagner uprising. here is what president zelenskyy described. here's how he described russia's grip on power after that. -- he doesn't control everything.
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wagner's moving deep into russia and taking certain regions, showing how easy it is to do. putin doesn't control the situation in the regions. he doesn't control the security situation. all of us understand that his whole army is in ukraine. almost entire army is there. that's why it's so easy for the wagner troops to march through russia, -- >> steve, is that true? let putin does not control some territories? >> alison, let's start with the fact that it's extremely difficult to determine what was precisely going on inside of the kremlin. the reason that i say that is because the first question that pops up, and what salons he was trying to get at, how could this have happened? i think that he's saying a lot of things that are correct. i think that it is the case that there are so many russian focuses, so many russian troops in ukraine right now. to include his internal security services like the fsb, the primary responsibility in
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the past has been to project the regime. these focuses have now apparently shifted into ukraine, which of course has indeed -- i think zelenskyy is right, make some parts of russia less secure than they were before. i think that he's right. there are a lot of people saying that we should be careful when we talk about putin being weak. nevertheless, there are some facts on the ground. one of those is that a mutinous group of russian military guys, the wagner group, almost made it to a mosque, out to the gates of moscow under putin's watch. i think just a couple of weeks ago, many of us would've said that is virtually unthinkable. that cannot happen. zelenskyy is right, he's not as strong inside of russia as he was before this happened. >> what do you think, general? >> i think the same thing. steve is exactly right. remember, alison, we haven't just seen the puck grosjean troops, the wagner group heading back into russia and
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towards -- north towards moscow unimpeded by any russian security forces. let's go back about a month. we had the russian victory core, the so-called mutiny years that had decided to invade belgrade and kursk, and sloviansk. these were other forces not stop by any security detail as they went back towards moscow, and into russian -- i believe that zelenskyy is right on target here. the russian army is mostly in ukraine right now. the very fact that you mentioned early on in the program about how there were more airborne and air assault troops in the east. that is an indicator. like steve said, those guys are usually the palace guards. those are the most elite troops. if he is trying to put them in defensive positions, something that they are not really good at, these are people to jump out of airplanes and attack targets. if he's putting them in
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defensive positions, that means that he is hurting. we have seen all along that even though the defensive battle is going to be very tough for ukraine, they've succeeded. they have regained territory, and russia started this war with 200,000 soldiers going into ukraine. now they're saying that we have 150,000 in the donbas. ukraine did very well at the beginning against a much larger force, spread out over much larger territory. i do have high hopes for what the ukrainians are going to do. it will take time, it will certainly take time. there will be a lot of casualties, but this is the tough cycle. >> general hertling, steve hall, thank you very much. >> thanks, alison. >> back, here think twice before setting off fireworks. this force of july, responsible for at least six wildfires in washington state this weekend. that story, next.
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firefighters in washington's they are battling the wildfires that have been burning since early sunday morning. it covers more than 500 acres. it is the tunnel five fire, and it is forced hundreds of people to flee their neighborhoods so far, it has destroyed ten homes, threatens 250 more. the fire is currently 0% contained. and, the cause is still unknown. and, it was not the only fire in washington state this, weekend fireworks sparked six smaller fires in the pacific cascade region. joining me now is washington's commissioner of public lands -- hillary, thank you so much for being, here how worried are you about the fourth of july celebrations with fireworks tomorrow? >> extremely worried.
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right now, it is extremely, hot it is extremely dry. we have winds down in those conditions. you can see on the screen right, they're all it takes is literally one spark in these areas we have. 100, thousand it could be 100,000 acre fires, very few little days. >> so, what is the balance? >> what are you telling? people everybody wants to celebrate the fourth of july, but they want to be safe. what is the balance? >> i mean, the fourth of july represents the best of america, and no one personifies american values more than our firefighters. if you think, about it they are people of, service dedication, and courage. they put their lives online every single, day fighting to protect the lives of strangers who will -- they are really the best of the best, our role models, our heroes. honestly, this is the time where we need to celebrate, them and protect them. that means, a cross our country, we need to take care of them by
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moving one less park, we are urging people, please do not light fireworks. go to a fireworks show that is set up by a professional, watch, it keep yourself safe, keeping neighbors, safe keep our firefighters safe. those images you just saw in that community, it was just a few years ago where a firework literally sparked a fire that burned tens of thousands of acres. it was just a foolish air. they thought, no big deal, unfortunately it truly threatened, lives and damaged that entire landscape in the community and firefighters were fighting it for, days and weeks. >> so the professional fireworks shows have not caused any fires. everything the firefighters are battling in terms of fireworks, those who are just amateurs? >> that is right. what is really happening, is that people are having fun. we understand that. they are out in the community, they want to celebrate this beautiful holiday weekend, celebrate american, we understand that. unfortunately, right, now
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especially washington, state we are seeing extremely hot weather, and we have had significant periods of time with the moisture. so our landscapes are extremely dry. you mention -- and, the reality is, all it takes is one spark, and we will have 50 fires quickly, and that leads to reduced resources. so, if you are looking at a number of fires, you have five on the landscape, it is taking on this particular -- 8 to 10 air resources. thousands of -- , and all of those resources, they get very stretched, and have so many fires happening state by state, and -- >> it is incredible, hillary, how much the washington state has -- known for, rain known for being wet, so many months for, year it is really changed now. this tunnel fire, so, talk about, that it is scorched more
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than 500 acres of land. is it still -- >> it is, and it is not to any factor of our firefighters and resources. we have had literally eight plus air resource scoopers, fire bosses, as well as thousands of firefighters on that fire. those are operators and engines, fighting the blazes, unfortunately what you have this hot dry conditions. you also have an area that has amazing wetness, known for its windsurfing and kite surfing. unfortunately when you take fire and fuel, and you add, when you have an enormously dangerous situation. sadly, we have thousands of people whose homes are at risk. we have thousands of people who are at risk. so we are urging people to take every step, we are on this, we are working morning till night starting yesterday. when it started we are working as hard as we can. but unfortunately it is a very
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difficult with those winds. we are hoping we will get some breath of fresh air, reduced wind, and hopefully some moisture, but unfortunately there is not on the horizon. >> well, we know people appreciate everything your, doing and thank you for letting us help you get the message out tonight about what you're hoping for the fourth of july. thank you so much for being here. >> thank you so much. be safe everyone. >> you as well. >> well, parts of the country can expect thunderstorms and other severe weather to impact fourth of july celebrations tomorrow. chad myers is at the national weather map, when we come back.
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affect your fourth of july celebrations. meteorologist chad myers is here to tell us what to expect. hi chad. >> i, listen to areas of concern for your fourth of july. the major threat back out to the west, here in the yellow, that is where there could be hail, severe weather, could be lightning and thunder, and also severe gusty winds out there. across the deep south and east coast, this is where i'm more concerned about lightning from the sky to the ground. that is where people will be outside. you have to watch this. the storms that we had earlier today have now moved offshore. they are moving very quickly offshore. by 3:00, they are all gone. you will notice, a few more showers and storms pop up throughout the heat of the, day in the northeast. so there will be some thunder and lightning there. not as much as across the deep south, where storms fired all day on monday in some spots, they will go in the overnight hours, but be back again in the heat of the day with more lightning from cloud to ground, with people outside. by wednesday morning, it is all
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over, but somewhere around that seven or 8:00 area for tomorrow night, that is when things could get a bit exciting. back out here towards the midwest, where there is severe weather, where the severest weather will be in minneapolis, back down to, omaha this is where a line of weather will push through, with wind, hail, and possibly severe thunderstorms right around sunset and the like where you might want to be outside watching fireworks. this is going to be a place to watch closely. neither could be showers in d.c. at the heat of, day but things calm down certainly by nightfall. the heat is going to be across the deep south where it will be muggy, but the temperatures will be the warmest out in the southwest where we still have heat advisories, vegas, palm springs, phoenix, all above 100 degrees throughout the afternoon. so, 90% of the country has a very nice fourth of july. there are a few spots that will sprinkle around, that will certainly get interesting at times, just make sure you have a way to get warnings on your phone, or however you do, it just make sure if you are
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outside tomorrow, you have a way to know that a thunderstorm is coming. >> right. hail and wind sounds too exciting. thank you. cnn's fourth of july special returns, with an all-star lineup. celebrate with spectacular professional fireworks, and the awesome musical performances in store. you can watch cnn's fourth in america live july 4th at seven pm eastern only on cnn. thank you so much for watching cnn tonight. our coverage continues now.
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