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>> -- john berman here for anderson, tonight on three, 60 troops on the move in major airstrikes on a refugee camp that israel calls a safe space in fort militants. and locals now coal at war zone. the very latest on israel's biggest strike on the west bank in two decades. also tonight, is wrong desantis openly advertising intolerance? his campaign put out a video, which it literally says is to wrap up pride month, slamming donald trump for being too accepting of lgbtq americans. later, the little salvadoran girl who was torn from her mother at the southern border. how she and moderate now and the american life that trying to build five years after that moment. we begin with the latest on israel to combined air and ground attack on jenin in the west bank. specifically the refugee camp there. according to israel, the camp is known to be a haven for militants. that said, it is also densely populated in the middle of a crowded city, packed with civilians, in a conflict that is once again dangerously flaring up. cnn's hadas gold is in jerusalem for us tonight's. hadas, what's the fear that is from there? >> john, i was really just and janine is today. today it is a different story. residents there are saying they have not seen scenes like what they are seeing in two decades. this is turning into a largest israeli military operation since 2002.

these are the days of the second intifada. it began overnight around when i am with air strikes turned out by drones. these -- israeli military carrying out targeted strikes targeting militants in janine refugee camp, it says. since then, there have been hundreds of israeli soldiers entering the camp. bulldozers have been taken to the streets to rip them up, they say, in order to remove ieds they say are under the pavement. and on the outskirts of jenin, tanks. israeli military tanks have been seen. they have not entered the city itself but that is so reminiscent of those incredibly violent days and the second intifada, when israeli tanks were actually taking to the streets of palestinian cities in the west bank. the palestinian ministry of health saying at least eight palestinians have been killed so far. and more than 100 have been injured. i should warn that these numbers could be changing, especially as this operation is ongoing. there are still ongoing fire fights and the city, even as we speak. they are expected to continue overnight, potentially even for another day or so. however, the israeli ministry saying at least eight of those killed, were all combatants. they say they were all armed. the israeli military is acknowledging there are civilians amongst the more than 100 injured and they are acknowledging that their actions and the camp have directly affected services they are like electricity and water. the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu was speaking earlier this evening at an event at the u. s. embassy, saying the operation will continue, saying they are

doing everything they can to avoid civilian casualties. but saying that jenin, hey says, has become a safe haven for militants and they are not going to allow that to happen. john? >> i keep looking at these images, you are so right. haven't seen anything reminiscent of this, or anything like this, in two decades. what are the is really what the forces saying about what this goes now? >> the israeli forces are saying that they will continue this operation as long as they believe necessary to achieve their targets. they say are they are targeting militant command centers, they say they have already targeted weapons manufacturing sites, explosive storage facilities as well as tunnels they say they found underneath a market. what is happening right now at the camp is that hundreds of these refugees -- these families and the refugee camp are fleeing the camp overnight. because they have been hearing, and as we have been hearing from the israeli military, this operation could continue for another day or so. these families, they have essentially been under siege in this refugee camp, because even if they are not the targets,

they are civilians, they are so directly affected because the fire fights are happening on their streets. the balloon uttering up their streets, making many of them impassable. before fiji's, these families are not fleeing. they are refugees once again from a refugee camp. john? >> could be some long nights ahead. hadas gold, please keep us posted. thanks so much. >> let's go to the white house now. cnn's jeremy diamond. jeremy, what is the white house saying about this military operation? >> not very much, john. they are actively monitoring the situation. both here at the white house as well as at the state department. very closely monitoring the situation. not only for reports of casualties, how many are civilian casualties, those are the kinds of things that this white house typically pays attention to. but what they're also doing is they are your israel's right to defend itself against terrorist organizations. they're also saying, it is imperative to take all possible precautions to prevent the loss of civilian life. very mindful of that. beyond that, john, this as a white house that is also very much mindful of the possibility of escalation here. we know the politics in the region right now can be very combustible. certainly, every time there is a flare up like this, this is a

white house that very much turns its focus on seeing how they can try to avoid any broader escalation of the situation. whether it is between israel and the militants and the gaza strip, or militants in the west bank. >> jeremy, what is the extent of communication right now between u. s. and israeli officials? >> you just heard hadas say, the israeli prime minister mentioned, benjamin netanyahu, was at the u. s. embassy and the u. s. ambassador was right by his side. so there is certainly communication. there always is communication between u. s. and israeli officials around these types of incidents. what remains to be seen is what the effect is on some of the administration's other priorities. as a fixer agent. not only the possibility of escalation between israel and palestinian militants, but this is also an administration that hasn't really pursued a full tuesday solution process.

instead, what they have really focused on is trying to do confidence building measures on both sides. they have israeli presidents rustles at the highest levels in years together. still, we are seeing this kind of operation the could potentially undermine that small and steady progress. the u. s. has also been focused on trying to normalize relations between israel and saudi arabia. the secretary of state, anthony blinken, just last month warned that continued violence between israel and palestinians could potentially undermine the possibility of all of that progress. saudi arabia has made very clear that progress on the palestinian issue is necessary if that normalization is ever to take place. >> jeremy diamond, at the white house, where there are no doubt watchful and weary eyes tonight. thank you jeremy. >> -- >> not what could be a

serious development in the special counsel's probe into former president trump. we not know specifics about another call trump made to another state and surge for votes. georgia, meet arizona. special counsel jack smith appears to be ramping up his look into the effort to overturn the 2020 election, cnn has learned mr. trump called arizona's been governor at the time, doug doocy to put the squeeze on. in fact, there is even video of him trying to reach the governor unsuccessfully in this instance as he signed papers certifying president biden's victory. the audio is a little rough here, but the rent out you here is hail to the chief. >> so when he finally reached governor ducey, a source familiar with the cold house asked the former president did talk about the result and a

source says he pressured ducey to find fraud that would help him reverse his defeat. separately, the washington post reports that mr. trump spoke specifically about his margin of defeat more than 10, 000 votes, then talk about a range of false claims that he says would show he overwhelmingly won and encourage governors ducey to study them. cnn reporting, former vice president pence was pressured by his boss to call ducey as well. here's what he said about it. >> no, i don't remember. the president and i, things can to hit at the end. i have spoken about that very openly. the president and i continue to have a strong difference. i'll always believe that by god's grace i did my duty under the constitution that day, and presiding over a joint session of congress, in the aftermath of the mayhem, the rising.

>> he also said, quote, i did check in with not only governor ducey but other governors and states that were going through the legal process of reviewing their election results. but there was no pressure involved. with us now, cnn legal analyst jennifer orders and senior political analyst david gergen. jennifer, let me start with you. where would i call like this, or how much i cold like this, to governor ducey, crossed a line, if it did? >> john, it's not so much to this particular call would be illegal across the literary line -- charges trump and potentially others with a broad

range of conspiracy to overturn the election. really a conspiracy against the u. s. . this would be one of many, many strong pieces of evidence. it is really, more of a building block that a chargeable offense in and of itself. just like the raffensperger call, you have testimony in this case about trump saying, we need this many votes. all of this goes into the pot of evidence, showing they have this illegal motive and they, meaning trump has, allies conspired to overturn the election. >> because it's part of a pattern? >> just because it goes to the conspiracy. conspiracy is an agreement between two people or more to do some illegal objective. the illegal objective is the

overturning of the election. this is a piece of evidence that he and others were on the same page and they are taking action to try to get that done. >> david, do you ever think raffensperger in georgia obviously didn't go to find the votes that trump asked him to. governor ducey obviously didn't go try to overthrow anything in arizona. do you ever sit and think about what would've happened had that on something? >> if they had actually changed votes? >> yeah, what would have happened? >> -- be if he'd had a receptive audience back, i will tell you, when all the facts were to come out, it would be like nixon and the types. that is, when the type finally came out, it under the nixon administration and he resigned shortly thereafter. in this case, if he really

could build up the idea that there was serious effort to twist arms to do so in and illegal or conspiratorial way, and that continues to build up, i think it could burst before the election and have a real impact when it comes out. i don't think trump is out of the woods. even though his poll numbers are not only stay up, actually they are strengthening, he is not out of the woods yet by a long shot. >> you worked in for different what houses, including richard nixon's. can you conceive of a president doing this after election day, calling not one but two at least election officials saying, hey, you do something for me? >> no. no. even richard nixon in 1960 when he ran against john f. kennedy, you know, if there were, and lost by a very narrow margin, there were also lots of rumors and allegations that the votes hadn't come in from chicago and the mayor bump the system up and cost nixon the election, or at least would have gotten it to the courts. nixon himself, in one of the more patriotic moments of his life, said no, we are not going to contest this election.

the country deserves to have a smooth transition and he ensured that to be the case. donald trump, i mean, you can't out nixon nixon very easily, but donald trump has. >> jennifer, according to the washington post, doug ducey said he is surprised he has not been counted by the special counsel jack smith. if that is the case, if smith hasn't confident him, can you explain that? >> i'm at little surprised, to. previously it was reported that i had spoken. but apparently the content of the composition hasn't come out. it would be more surprising if now jack smith doesn't try to talk to doug ducey at this time, but it is true that they have been, from the very beginning, and this has changed in the last couple of months, we are a little bit behind the curve, doj lit georgia first in their investigation, they lit the january 6th committee go first with the broader plot. so before jacks mitt came in, there was a little bit of a lackadaisical attitude, it seems, which i think now has finally been remedied. it does seem like they are now going gangbusters. i think they will speak to ducey and see what i can get from him. >> with ducey apparently, there

is not a. with raffensperger, the recording of the trump call. how much does it matter that there is no type of the call with ducey? >> prosecutors love types. there is no bitter evidence that listened to the defendant and his own words, his own for, us commit a crime. but this is the kind of evidence prosecutors usually have. incredible witness, up there on the stand, swearing the oath, and telling them what happened in this conversation. it is very strong evidence, not as good as the type, but very typical and very believable. >> we heard, david, mike pence told about his differences with donald trump on this matter. do you think any of the other republican candidates will be robbed enough to condemn the phone call with doug ducey? >> that depends on what ducey has to say. if he gets to come down for his cold border on this, i don't think it goes anywhere. if he on the other hand -- before he took subject smith, that his arm was twisted heavily. i think that is going to make amateur difference in how people view all this. what i can't understand as why

ducey hadn't spoken up already. it does seem to me, he owed it to everybody to put the truth out there before he went to see jack smith. >> david and jennifer, thank you very much. still ahead tonight, the video shot by the wrong doesn't's campaign at the end of pride month that some gay republicans or colon homophobic. it comes as he is battling for president trump to win coach or war votes and the race for the republican nomination for president. also tonight, the latest man hunt after two died and dozens were wounded at a block party in maryland's. >> that depends on what ducey has to say. if he gets to come down for his cold border on this, i don't think it goes anywhere. if he on the other hand -- before he took subject smith, that his arm was twisted heavily. i think that is going to make amateur difference in how people view all this. what i can't understand as why ducey hadn't spoken up already. it does seem to me, he owed it

to everybody to put the truth out there before he went to see jack smith. >> david and jennifer, thank you very much. still ahead tonight, the video shot by the wrong doesn't's campaign at the end of pride month that some gay republicans or colon homophobic. it comes as he is battling for president trump to win coach or war votes and the race for the republican nomination for president. also tonight, the latest man hunt after two died and dozens were wounded at a block party in maryland's. i had a family member who over a hundred years prior have walk these grounds.

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♪ >> a video posted at the end of pride month by the desantis campaign is being called, quote, divisive and disparate by -- republicans. it slams for president trump for his about to protect lgbtq rights as desantis tries to position himself to the right of trump in the eyes of some in the party. here's a clip. >> -- transgender women compete and miss universe? >> yes. >> make america great again. >> >> and i respond to the criticism, a spokesperson for the desantis campaign called pride month, quote, unnecessary, divisive pandering. this video was reposted of the same date that trump, desantis, and other candidates appeared at the moms for liberty conference in philadelphia this weekend. the group was from 2021 in florida and has grown into a force on education for the

right. despite ties to governor desantis and his positive perception, friday, the crowd also showed a lot of warmth for the former president. i am joined by scott jennings, who has advised both from a president george bush and senate mitch mcconnell, and -- managing in order of axios. scott, why? what do you think desantis campaign thought that this video would help them? >> they didn't created. they did retweet it, i think, from one of their accounts. ultimately, for them and is about continuing to build a brand which they think is sort of centered on desantis being a reliable conservative, which

they are trying to track to post against trump being momentarily interested in things -- paying lip service to things, but not strong enough to follow through on things. i think they've done on this issue now, if the man on immigration, they have done it on several other topics. why -- i would expect him to consent into that. i think they are looking ahead this week, they are trying to launch this coalition which they are calling mamas for desantis, which is going to be an initiative from his wife. they are really going to drill down on his record on taking sexualized content out of the classroom and also the idea of protecting girls sports from boys playing and girls sports. i think this is sort of, part of the sanders brand. i'm not surprised that it.

i think it might be one of the better news cycle if they've had over the last few weeks. i expect him to continue to do it. >> you think it's a good news cycle for them? the response to this? cement to go around tolerance is too much? >> if you are thinking about the context of the republican primary, one of the key things about winning a news cycle is who is mad at you. donald trump master this in 16 and throughout his presidency. who's met at wrongdoing this right now? media is met, democrats are mad, pgas when a. all the people you would want to be mad at you -- they are collecting it with this particular news cycle. when you compare what they are getting now versus what they are getting over the past couple of weeks, which has been a lot of people -- on their campaign. i would say the judge has to be a successful venture versus the last couple of weeks. >> margaret? >> it is a pretty mean-spirited at. it is clearly a play for the base and it is a calculation that desantis and donald trump are both making that the right flank off the base is going to

be what matters and for this primary is decided. of course, once you emerge from the primary election you have to run in a general election. there are a lot of centrist and suburban republicans who will be offended by the spirit of that ad. so it is certainly a risky calculation and coming out of pride month, the advocacy group glad says seven out of ten americans want company to support the lgbtq community. gallup has been shown for years the rise and support for same-sex marriage. it is now something like 75% of americans say same-sex marriage should have the same rights as traditional marriage. i think it is a collaboration question, but this is showing you that desantis is ready to do whatever it takes in the primaries, not thinking about the general election right now. >> just as a matter of fact, one of the clips shown of donald trump in this commercial was of him speaking out in favor of tolerance for lgbtq rights the month after the polls not club shootings. that is a historical reference from when trump was talking there. is that the type of thing that

could be problematic for designers come general election time, if he gets that far? >> it just shows you how flat donald trump has moved from the 2016 contest to now two cycled later. because you would, i dare say, not here donald trump make the same appeal to caitlin jenner or lgbtq community, certainly not during the primary election this time around. >> scott, we talked in the inter here , we mentioned this

conference this past weekend. both desantis and trump spoke. this would have, should have been a particularly desantis friendly crowd and he did well get by all accounts. but our friend jackie -- who cover the event say desantis got a good reception, trump got a uproarious, huge, boisterous reception. she was suggesting that that somehow is a negative of the overall challenge for the desantis campaign. no matter how hard he tries, he can't generate this kind of excitement. >> look, donald trump is doing well. look at the polling. he is one of the republican primary. he has gone up a few points over the last few weeks. for desantis, part of his issue is not taking on donald trump, is trying to close out everybody else. that bracket of the republican primary. getting that field clear for the right to then go on and take on the final boss, donald trump. for desantis, to me, the key issue is not what the applause level is for trump right now,

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>> it's important to note that the so-called -- strategy from bronx and it will be discussing before the break, does have its fans. our elle reeve mid woman from different parts of the country with different backgrounds who bonded online of their appreciation of the no presidential candidate and his actions to run and covid. >> if desantis were to run tomorrow, he would win. that would be such a hard pill to swallow, i think for many people. >> back in 2021, finance it was the first person who told me she was a fan of florida governor ron desantis. and that they were more like her. >> when we spoke to you in 2021, you mentioned you had mom friends humid on twitter who were obsessed with desantis and it's stuck in my mind for years. >> he would just do stuff and say stuff with this conviction. we were all thinking it. >> did you have to answer him? >> daddy desantis. >> it's all joking of course. >> we are desperate woman who tried to do things and our own communities and we weren't getting anywhere. >> he was very vocal starting in the summer of 2020 about the need to open schools and particular. >> during the covid lockdown in 2020, these frustrated moms built an informal twitter network, people angry about

closed schools and the difficulty of remote learning. they are from all over the country, but so it descends as the model of what they wanted in their cities. >> a safe haven -- >> when i asked that advocating for kids to go back in person, what was called a granny killer. a teacher killer. selfish. on twitter. it was awful. >> steenkamp is a teacher in dallas and warren early on walk and would hurt kurds. especially poor kids. >> we can't forget that much vulnerable and with this created the single largest inequality generator in a generation by having some schools open, some schools closed. on twitter. students can't connect it with a levi's executive who moved her family from san francisco to enter and only 21, so she could send her kids to school in person. >> we quickly front making the online and i find it really interesting that she was a teacher that was advocating for in-person school. and san francisco, you can go to a bar or a strip club, but my high school student couldn't go to english class. >> she said she was forced out of levi's in 2022 because of her covid tweets, which the company told npr undermine its own self -- health and safety policies -- >> 90% of what i

wrote about was playground and schools. there's nothing embarrassing about that. now >> they were civil active group chat with the mom's shirt news about covid and desantis. one crew to more than any people. they travel to each other's homes. many have been lifelong democrats, including julie hammill who has three kids and lives near l. a. . >> you voted for obama? >> yeah. >> twice. >>? clinton >>. >> did you ever biden? >> yes. >> i've never voted for a republican presidential candidate. i have always considered myself very socially liberal. but as we became more vocal on twitter, we were really demonized. >> in 2022, she ran for school bowed and one. >> i'm going to fight back. >> and was an active defender of her three friends. >> they aren't crazy. data from the education department trans kids have been hurt by long term remote learning. black and brown students more than white. in august 2020, desantis was early to open schools paired to other u. s. states, but not the world. many european countries went back international policies. may 2020, for example, a finland health official cited did it that kids didn't play a significant role in spreading the virus. but in the last two years, desantis has launched his presidential campaign and focused more on the culture war. >> we will leave woke ideology and the dustbin of history pride belongs. >> the twitter backlash the experienced made these women more perceptive to parts of the

fight against wokeness. but not all of it. >> i'm wondering if you think desantis's public war on woke distracts from the message that you like about him? >> a little bit, i do. yeah. to be honest, i feel like a would be really good to have a big public debate about what we got wrong with covid. >> the lyft will never allow that to bite. >> i think there's a lot of incendiary tactics being used to smear him. i think -- >> does it say a lot there restricts trenton to care for adults as well as kids? >> i have greater concerns about the six-week abortion ban. >> tell me about that. >> i think if he made it clear that he is a states rights person, and he is not looking to pass a national law in this regard, i would be less concerned. >> not everyone in their twitter orbit agrees on his tactics, but these three do think florida's new six-week abortion ban is bad. >> i think that is dangerous. that is something i cannot get behind. i don't think that is going to bode well for his presidential campaign. i think that might be a real impediment to bringing in moderate women. >> none of these women like the idea of a 2024 rematch between

biden and trump. they are open to voting for desantis, but i'm not sold. >> so there's been criticism from republicans that desantis is to online. that his campaign is too influenced by stuff that is popping up online this isn't affecting people in rely. someone struggling to pay the bills isn't thinking about right now. >> i don't think so. i've been all of a florida, you know they all say? he helped my business open up. he helped my kids go to school. the immediate just fix it on the culture war pieces. >> is it possible that you are --? >> for sure, in the beginning, but not anymore. do i need to find someone online? no. >> i would love to be off twitter but i feel like there are discussions that need to be had. for all the path that comes with it, there is also a good. i have connected with all of these like-minded women who are

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neighborhood. >> we won't stop until we find those responsible and hold them accountable. we won't. 28 people were injured, including 15 children under the age of 18. 18-year-old olivia gonzalez and 20-year-old -- were killed and the shooting. >> it was frightening. we just went straight to praying, protection for this community. >> police say the crime scene searches multiple blocks. at this point they have not made an arrest. but believe that were multiple shooters. >> we are still looking at every casing. we have multiple casings from one caliber of weapon, but that doesn't mean everything came from that same weapon. >> police also feared this shooting could lead to even more gun violence. >> we are always concerned about retaliation. >> today, baltimore mayor brandon scott called for stronger gun laws. >> this is not just a baltimore think. we have to be honest. this is a u's thing. this is our longest standing public health challenge. we need to focus on gun

violence, regardless of where it happens. >> at this point, there is a $28, 000 reward for any information leading to the arrest and charges in this case. the city said they are relying on tips from the public it had to crack this case open. i also want to take a moment to look at it. remember this holiday weekend is still not over yet. there are still large events expected to happen here in baltimore in the next 24 hours. but the mayor said, we are gearing up every resource in our disposable to ensure the actual 4th of july holiday itself is safe. john? >> donny freeman, thank you so much. up next, a little girl whose anguish of being separated from her mother touched our hearts and our -- i quote here, we are gearing up every resource at our disposal to ensure the actual fourth of july holiday itself is safe. john?

>> tanya, freeman thank you so much. up next, a little girl whose anguish of being separated from her mother touched our hearts and conscious about the former administration's border policy. five years, later how she and mom are doing, and what our gary tuchman -- when he visited the. when three 60 continues.

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>> over the weekend another bus with migrants arrived from central and south america were on board. including, 11 children. for months, thousands of migrants have been bussed from texas and florida two democratic lead, cities including, los angeles, new york washington d.c.. five years, ago during the trump administration, you would likely remember that thousands of migrant families or forcibly separated at the u.s. mexico border, as part of a so-called, zero tolerance approach to the

crisis. adults were detained, and children help in other locations, many of them crying for their parents. tonight, our gary tuchman has an update on one of those children. >> this 11-year-old girl joined an astros baseball game in houston, may have done more than anyone to shock the nation's conscious, when thousands of children were separated from their migrant parents during the trump administration. [inaudible] >> the child who's said el salvador in a secretly recorded audiotapes from 2018 is ximena madrid when she was six years old. >> after three weeks in custody ximena and her mother cindy were being held 1200 miles from each other were reunited at houston's intercontinental airport. the -- mother and daughter don't know any english. >> are you happy today? [speaking non-english] >> exactly five years after they were separated, this is ximena today. -- >> are you a happy girl today? >> yes, i am. >> how come? >> i feel like the united states has provided with me a lot of stuff that i wasn't provided with in my old country. i just feel like here i have better opportunities to take. i can be a successful person here.

ximena just graduated from a houston elementary school. she will be heading to middle school. here she is radiant following the ceremony. with her mother and cindy's partner alfredo. whom cindy met since she's been in texas. earlier this year, ximena welcomed a sister, aileen. cindy and left ximena el salvador in a month long journey to the u.s.. after cindy says her boyfriend was shot and killed while she was walking with them. she felt ximena was in danger if she stayed. the 34-year-old has a u.s. government work visa, and has started her own business cleaning houses. [speaking non-english] >> what is your dream? >> cindy says my dream is to see my daughters grow up, go to school, and become confident in themselves. that they live in a safe place. and not be afraid for their lives. >> but here's the thing. while cindy has that work visa, she has not had a court hearing yet to decide if she gets asylum. the immigration attorney who

has championed their case is thelma garcia. >> there's no finality. there's no fear involved. the family is afraid that there are going to be set back to el salvador. so their nightmare continues. >> if you could talk to the political leaders who make decisions like this, about who gets sent back and who stays, what would you say to them? as an 11 year old girl. >> i would say to please let us day, because i promise that we are not that people. we are not people that want to harm others. we are here to have a better life. and hopefully be better persons that can help the country and a future. >> cindy says, i've never lost hope that someday there will let us know that we can be here legally. but i am still afraid i might have to go back to my country. >> what do you want to do when you grow up? >> i'm still not sure. but right now, i really feel like i would be a good book writer. i write a lot. i feel like i'm a very creative person. i would like to be a book writer. >> that's wonderful. would you write in spanish or an english? or both? >> oh. definitely both. >> mother and daughter, living in the united states. but not sure they will permanently be able to stay in the united states. gary tuchman, cnn, houston. gary tuchman, cnn, houston.

gary tuchman, cnn, houston. gary tuchman, cnn, houston. >> i'm still not sure. but right now, i really feel like i would be a good book writer. i write a lot. i feel like i'm a very creative person. i would like to be a book writer. >> that's wonderful. would you write in spanish or an english? or both? >> oh. definitely both. >> mother and daughter, living in the united states. but not sure they will permanently be able to stay in the united states. gary tuchman, cnn, houston.

gary tuchman, cnn, houston. >> it extends back to the home countries before the met up with their children, their child, or children, then end up going to a relative, a foster, home where perhaps a guardian and the families had plans to come back to the united states and it is not an easy thing for them to do. they remain separated. john? >> so many different, ways, gary thank you so much for that. joining me now to the -- cnn's july 4th special returns with an all-star lineup celebrate with spectacular fireworks, and the biggest musical performances around. do not miss the zac brown, brian showed, crow and post malone, live tomorrow night starting at seven pm eastern right here on cnn. we can't forget tomorrow's other big event, nathan's famous fourth of july hot dog eating contest. the reigning champ, joey chestnut is hoping to get his 16th win tomorrow. tonight on the contest eve, he

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>> hot dog eating contest on brooklyn's kony island, thousands are expecting to cheer as they child on as many franks as they can. joey chestnut, the king of professional, eating and the studies a professional, think as the reigning champ. he's hoping to win, again and take home his 16th mustard belts. joey, do you even like hot dogs? >> man, i love them. it is one of the best things there is, and on the fourth of july, there's nothing better. >> when you go out to eat on your, own when you're not in, season you ever order hot dogs? >> and a baseball, game not all the, time but i will try.

i'm almost eating won every inning in a baseball game. i love them. >> so does not like you separate work from pleasure. it is just nonstop. there is never an off-season in hot dog eating business? >> it, is i love -- but when i ate in my, home i'm not dunking them in water. i, and i'm not getting to the point where i'm uncomfortable. >> so, you have won 15 out of the last 16 contests. this, is you, no contest eve. what are you doing today to get ready for this? how do you prepare? >> today i had an apple. i had a bit of salad. i had some protein supplement. but lots of liquid. i'm going to go into the contest tomorrow empty, loose, happy, and healthy. last year i had a broken, like this year i put a lot of work into recovering that leg and rehabbing, it and just getting back into shape so i can push myself to the limit tomorrow.

>> when you eat vegetables, does your body say no, what are you doing, i did not want any of this? >> no. i'm not anti vegetable at all. actually, this, year i did a three-week detox, a vegan detox. last, year i had some of the infections, i took a crazy amount of antibiotics. i had to do a detox to get my body even and it is great and some people are -- i'm definitely. not >> unlike the fact you are not anti-vax, what you are vegetable inclusive. you just like everything. you like hot dogs in great quantities. i mean, how do you feel after eating so many hot dogs once, and you were just talking about the detox and antibiotics, how long does it take you to recover? >> it takes a while. going to a football game knowing he's going to get. hit i know after this time, i'm not gonna feel great. it's going to take