>> it is shaping up to be one of the hottest movies of the, summer certainly one of the most popular. if you live in vietnam, you may not be able to see it. barbie is this phone fantasy company that's stars margot robbie and ryan gosling, but the movie has been banned in vietnam over a scene that includes a map depicting china's nine dashed line in the south china sea. china's long claim territorial waters extends hundreds of miles to the south, and east, and one of its -- east of one of its islands provinces. vietnam and several other countries are in a dispute with china over that area, right now i should note that warner

brothers -- company who made this film has not commented on the matter. thank you so much for joining us on cnn tonight with alison camerota starts right now. >> hi, caitlin, thank you very, much good evening, everyone i'm alison camerota. welcome to a special holiday edition of cnn. tonight the republican infighting is taking a nasty turn. ron desantis is attacking don trump with a campaign video that slams trump for one supporting lgbtq rights. after the pulse nightclub massacre. >> i will do everything in my power to protect our lgbtq citizens. >> our panel is going to explain what this ad says about ron desantis and what he really believes. plus, the sub start of the sopranos and lotus has a rule for who can watch his hit tv shows and movies. he says the supreme court has given him the right to ban bigots. and two people shot to death, 28 injured in a mass shooting at a block party and baltimore on sunday. we want to hear from gun owners and strong sick get amendment advocates about what reforms

they can live with to stop mass shootings. hear what they say in tonight's pulse of the people. >> my point being line right should not be taken away because in mental health gun issue and someone else's community in chicago, in new york city. >> okay, but let's begin with this bizarre campaign video from ron desantis, advertising the fact that he does not support the rights of lgbtq people. here with me tonight, we have vanity fair con columnist, a rabbi and rolling stone columnist, a cnn national politics reporter, and a communications strategist for ben carson's 2016 presidential campaign. great to see all of. you jason, let me talk to you first. let's play a little bit more of this ad from desantis that seems to highlight that he has draconian policies. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> i cannot think of anything more horrifying -- >> it really has shut down drag >> just produce some of the harshest most draconian lawn

that literally threatened trans existence. >> congratulations, ron desantis. you win. >> jason? as a strategist yourself in politics presidential campaign if you try to and voters, how is this additive, this ad? >> i think first of this wasn't a campaign ad, so to speak, it was i think personally a dumb decision to tweeted out by a campaign staffer. i think what he's trying to do, well, i can't even say what he's trying to do, but generally i think that the idea is that desantis is trying to show voters that wait a minute i'm further to the right than donald trump. and of donald trump is going to sit here and campaign and say that he's a consensus candidate, you're gonna have to fight rhonda sanders to get that primary vote. what it what he does after that, and i think quite frankly the underlying message the desantis is trying to get parental rights and their kids in schools is going to be lost on this kind of ad, and i certainly hope they change their tactics. moll y >> molly?

>> he's basically telling gay voters, i don't want your vote. >> it's a natural present procession of the don't say gay laws. don't say gay laws were these florida education laws started by rhonda santas there. first went to third grade, they said i was just gonna go to third grade and then they went to high school and now he's coming after gay people. this is what happens. this is always what happens. they go after speech and then they go after people themselves. and i think strategically

desantis is doing it because he wants to run to the right of trump. but you're seeing there pushing each other further enforce further right. >> jay? >> i love that this ad has the gay techno club anthem, i don't know if i'll be hearing a july 4th of the pines tomorrow but it's an interesting choice. but bring it on, iran. it's great when the bigots say the quiet part out loud. we're coming up on july 4th. i'm a patriot. i believe in american values, and i believe most americans do not support the kind of outrageous targeting. even if they might agree on some of the things about parental rights or some of those issues, this message that just says i'm the biggest bigot in the room is not going to resonate with mainstream voters. as a progressive i say bring it on. >> one of the things that has been pointed out, is the quote that he uses from trump's right after the pulse nightclub massacre.

again, i know that they just re-tweeted it, but still, how tone-deaf can you be? in florida, when that was i think 49 people were mowed down. here's what two of his opponents, republicans, i had to say about this law by chris christie and will hurd. >> i am not comfortable with it, and i'm not comfortable with the way both governor desantis and donald trump are moving on debate in this country. >> i wish they would focus their attacks on war criminals like vladimir putin, not my friends in the lgbtq community. >> eva, what is the desantis campaign thing about this? >> well, alisyn, all indications are that they are proud of this and taking a victory lap. spokesperson for the governor tweeted out that taking issue with the concept of pride month altogether, saying that it is pandering, there isn't a similar celebration for street people, and culling identity politics toxic. so this is right on brand for a governor desantis and his team. they are trying to speak to a certain segment of the electorate. when i was at the faith and freedom foreign men in the scene not long ago, speaking to

christian evangelical voters, these are the voters that republicans need to capture in the early state of iowa. they told me that they are number one concern wires their concern about transgender americans, how gender identity is taught in schools. i would push back and say, really? out of all the issues that we are confronting in this country, whether it be abortion, or the economy, they said no, it's transgender issues. it's gender issues. and so governor desantis is speaking directly to those anxieties. and he is probably relishing that the likes of secretary buttigieg, we'll heard, and chris christie are going after him, because those are people that republicans, base republicans would characterize

as the elites. and so he is leaning into this. >> so, jason, will that work, in other words, for the primary? >> i think the bottom line is the fact the people are talking about it. for several months now everybody has been focused on trump and his cases and his trials in his statements. and now we are actually talking about rhonda santas, and he is developing a list of enemies that don't like him for these statements. so i think that is going to maybe drive some more enthusiasm for his campaign. is it right? i don't think so. but sadly the fact of the matter. to the previous commentator, in iowa that's what they're looking at. in new hampshire that's what they're looking at. in south carolina and nevada. >> right. so you win the primary and then you just say, just getting. >> if he's compiling an enemies list he can count this gay rabbi as one of his friends, because i love it when they get ahead of their skis and think middle america agrees with them, which they don't.

>> so you don't think this is a winning strategy in iowa. >> i don't know about iowa, but i'm focused on the general. i'm focused on the people who are actually going to decide the next president of this country. these are not american values. so when one gets or so over their skis that they think the extreme 10% of their base represents the consensus of america, that's good news for someone on my side of the spectrum. >> except it's dangerous for children who are gay or young teenagers who see this and think, should i hate myself? it causes more, just like when trump would attack a certain group, then there would be violence towards that group. this is what happens. there are unintended consequences that reverberated in ways that none of us can even realize. >> and ivo, one of the strange ironies of this that you are proportioning, and we can all, see that this is the most diverse group of republican candidates ever. we're not talking lgbtq, but in terms of racially and ethnically. >> that we know of. >> correct. >> that's right. that we know of. and so, tell us what they are

saying about this. >> yeah, so, it is quite striking about half the feel is comprised of folks of color. but i think it's all the more striking because of the politics of a candidates. so vivek ramaswamy, for instance, rejects to the characterization of person of color. he doesn't like that terminology. he told me that now that this dispels the mythology of the left that the republican is somehow a racist party, it will be truly a bizarre brand of racism. so i think it does make it more difficult for democrats to knock some of the positions of republicans. but democrat i speak to say hey, listen, do not give republicans so much credit for this diversifying field. ultimately that would be a disservice to voters who, voters of color, who have given a very specific message when it comes to the policies that they support, and the representation can only go so far. but i think it is something to note, that this field is so diverse. >> yeah, jason, you worked with ben carson in 2016.

back then there were four candidates of color in that 17 person republican field. so this is the way the country is going. >> yeah, i mean, i'd like to say that the candidate i worked for was the last one actually lead don trump in the field are republicans and we quickly lost that race, but i do think she's right. the problem that we have is that we do have such a diverse field but none of their messages are getting out, and none of the candidates know how they're gonna say because of all the noise that donald trump is creating and now ron desantis. i hope that in the coming months we see what that diversity, our candidates that are diverse that they're talking about, their own life experiences and then policies that they based off those experiences. >> we do that with some of our town halls on cnn and obviously in debates, et cetera, so i think that is ahead of us. thank you all very much for your thoughts on this. coming up, you of course know michael for his memorable so

performances in sopranos and white lotus. >> do you think you have a chance with any of these women? >> don't be rude. >> i'm just saying, you're 80 years old. >> well, now, he says, the supreme court has given him the right to ban bigots from seeing his hit shows. that's next. when you're ready to go but static and wrinkles are like, nooooo! try bounce, it's the sheet. less static. less wrinkles. more softness.

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let's bring back j michaelson, jason osborne, also joining us, evan osnos of the new yorker and constitutional law professor gloria brown marsh. she is the author of the book she took justice, the black woman, law, and power. great to have all of you. professor, i want to start with you. i assume the imperioli's rule is an informal ball in terms of who can watch his shows. but it's his point valid in that it's sort of what sotomayor was saying about the balkanization of providers being able to decide who they want to serve and not serve. >> i think it is. it's directly on the point that justice sotomayor is saying that not just the protected class, women, people of color, immigrants, anyone could be prohibited from being served in restaurants or being allowed

into particular movie theaters. and now we see that the other side of it is to say, well, anything i feel is an area that i want to preclude other people, i should be able to do it based on the supreme court decision. it opens the floodgates and goes back to what is wrong with the supreme court decisions. it doesn't have the legal rationale that the american people can follow. or businesses. and that's what the supreme court is supposed to do. it's supposed to give us a rule to follow, and right now, as it is pointed, out we can do about anything we want based on these very vague decisions by the court. >> jay? do you agree? >> i want to respectfully disagree with the professor. first, obviously, michael imperioli, thank you for your allyship and i understand he was making a lighthearted point. that being said, my general sense is, we should not be giving our enemies, our opponents, more rights than they are already taking away. so this was, i think, first of all, this opinion was wrong. this does provide a pretext for discrimination because you can go to this website, it was a

website or get a website, that's discrimination. however, it is limited to cases where there really is a free speech interest. in this case both parties agreed that creating a website, typing in the words of a website, is speech. that means that it is not a blanket license to discriminate such that anybody can make that decision. and again i'm not interested in getting the supreme court off the hook. that's not my interest. rather i don't think we should be, as they sometimes say, don't comply in advance. we should not be giving away more rights by saying, they've taken away all these rights when in fact they have not. that's what i think is dangerous. >> professor, do you want to respond to that? >> when we say first amendment right to free speech and there are no limits on what that speech is, then it has to be interpreted by regular people who are business owners. regular people who are in the marketplace. and that is why i say the decision is so vague that someone then can prohibit a person, a group, because of the vagueness of the decision, and

then an action has to be brought for the supreme court or lower courts to give us some meat on these bones to better understand what these limitations are and how widespread we are supposed to interpret this decision. >> i certainly think that's true. i would say that this is not, there is not an analogy, if i put out a television show, i'm not being forced to say anything. i'm not being forced to say any words. i agree, there could be a flood of litigation, and you and i both know there will be more of these lawsuits, just continuing to open the window to exclude more of our lives. that being said, i am worried when we do that in advance, because that does, exactly as you said, it creates a social reality where businesses and others, you know we saw after the cake shot, placed pizzerias reporting signs on their windows saying no gays allowed. that was not justified by the -- shop is written. it's how it's interpreted that matters.

>> thank you both for those perspectives. i want to bring in evan right now. so evan, you just did this podcast, and i listened to a portion of, and it was great, about the supreme court and how political so many americans believe that it has become, and in fact you did it with jhane mayer, , new york reporter who coined the term the dark money supreme court. what does that mean? >> as many people will remember, jane mayer gave us this concept of the dark money force in politics. talking about electoral politics. she helped identify the ways in which large sums of money, often from donors that we don't know the full identities of, going to organizations whose names we were unfamiliar to us, we're having a big impact on politics. we used to talk about people like the cote brothers, for instance. these days what you are seeing in the actions of the court is that it is increasingly shaped

by similar kinds of dynamics. take, for example, somebody like leonard leo, a very prominent conservative legal activist who oversees a set of organizations, a web of groups involved in a number of cases. take the affirmative action case. the litigant in that case, the plaintive, students for fair admissions, in 2020 a third of their revenue reportedly came from an organization that leo runs, and many of the briefs that were submitted in support of that position came from organizations that he also supports. so we need to be thinking as much about money affecting the court as we used to think about money affecting electoral politics. >> jason, it makes americans uncomfortable to think that all these machinations are going on with supreme court, particularly the leonard leo thing, because it as though he has an agenda and then he finds a plaintiff and a case to fit it, concocts it basically. and it went wrong, by the way, with the web designer case, because they forgot to tell the plaintiffs that they were concocting him into it.

and so that one was sort of exposed. >> yeah, i agree. i think i said this last week, and jay and i tend to be on the same side of this aspect of it, although i'll go a step further and say that i think we're making a problem where there isn't a problem to be had, in the sense that clearly this website designer hasn't even gotten into wedding planning a wedding website services, and then all of a sudden concocts this case. i don't necessarily, i don't agree with how it came about, but i also am of the mind that we live in a capitalist society, and if you don't want to do business with somebody, don't do business with them. likewise, i don't think the services that this person is going to provide are gonna be in line with what the services of a gay couple wanting them to do their website. all that being said, in terms of the dark money aspect of it, let's not kid ourselves in thinking that this is just one sided. the other side, the left has folks like george soros that

are out there funding campaigns inorganizations that are out there not only doing alter research on judges or people that could be judges, the same is on the right side. so if we're going to change this, we need to change it across the board for everybody, and let's not kid ourselves and just say it's the republicans and leonard leo and these folks that are corrupting the system. >> is that right, evan? >> i think one of the things that my colleagues jane and susan glasser trying to draw attention to is the fact that you've seen a dramatic effect that everybody is seeing the donald trump was able to pour through conserve justice on the court in a single term, as it is positive effect on the composition of the court and you've seen the results of the last couple years, especially the dobbs decision, lgbtq, and affirmative action. you see this turn up in attitudes about the court. trust is declining rapidly we get pulaski fall shows that its

lowest level ever recorded, and it's gone down 20 points in two years. so it may be, in fact, that there is activity on both sides, but the effect is quite noticeable and quite distinct right now, from these conservative dark money groups. >> j., want to quickly respond? >> i don't think we're killing killing ourselves. george soros is transparent, especially about the organizations he funds. i'm proud to say i kind of broke the leonard lee leroy story to the daily beast several years ago, and we have no idea to this day who has under his massive campaign. now we're talking about money in the billions of dollars. there's been fantastic reporting, incredible investigative reporting for a number of outlets, but we still don't know who is paying for this, and that is not on the left. that's extremely troubling. >> i appreciate all of your information, friends. how do colleges achieve diversity now that the supreme court says they can't use race? one california school has become the most diverse in the country by using something

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>> the california medical school has become the most diverse school in the country by using something called an adversity score. it ranks applicants on how disadvantaged they are. with the supreme court striking down affirmative action in college admissions last week, other schools are considering this same metric. joining us now is dr. --, the admissions chair at that school, uc davis school of medicine.

doctor, thank you so much for being here. i am really interested in how can you figure out the level of adversity a student has faced? >> thank you for having me here, first of all. if you would allow me to share with you our multi-pronged approach to figuring this issue out, at least at our institution, and university of california davis, for years now we have been thinking about this issue, and the first thing that we have had to do is define what is our mission? what is our goal? as a medical school? admissions committee? and our mission is to matriculate a class of students year after year who will, when they become physicians, meet the diverse health care workforce needs of our community, of our region, and our state of california. as you know, california is a very diverse state. we have people of a variety of cultures, people speak different languages, and we have folks who go across a very

wide socioeconomic spectrum. since 1996, over 20 plus years ago, we have had a ban on affirmative action, and so we have done an iterative process by looking back and tweaking our process little by little to try and come up with the best way that we can meet our mission. that is by a process of holistic admissions. the sed scale, the social economic -- >> you something called the s e d, the socioeconomic advantage scale. >> that has evolved that overtime, we refer to distance traveled at this time. this is just a part of what we look at. >> but let me just show people so that they understand you have a chief something that other schools have not. so the u.s. medical school students in the country, this is according to the a. m. a., 10% are black, 12% are

hispanic. in your school, 14% are black, 30% are hispanic. so your numbers are much higher than nationally the average. but let me ask you this -- have you determined that socioeconomic diversity is more important than racial diversity? >> it is certainly a very important factor to us in our state. and not being able to use any of those personal characteristics, race, gender, et cetera, we want to look at our admissions process so that our physicians that we train and then able to go out there and serve our people. for example, the rural communities of california, they have a paucity of physicians. we need to have programs in place where we can train people who come from those communities who want to be committed to delivering health care and put them back in those communities. >> what about adversity that is not financial? what about adversity that is

based on illness in a family, or trauma of some kind? can you, do you measure that? are you looking for that kind of adversity? >> we look at all of it. that is an excellent point. the holistic admissions process is one where we look at everything in the application. we look at all of our applicants. we look very closely. we want to know what you went through to get to the place you are when applying to a medical school. you achieve so much by getting in here and putting in an application, what adversity did you face? because we are looking for qualities that make a good dodger. are resilient are you? how much perseverance do you have in the face of adversity? those are all things that we look for. >> i also thought it interesting that you keep a low score, i believe, correct me if i'm wrong, to the children of doctors. but they are the ones 24 times more likely to become physicians than their peers. don't you want to encourage kids of doctors to become

doctors? why disincentivize them? >> we don't want anyone to be excluded. we just want people who want to come in and be a great match for our school so that they can they can go out into the communities and deliver health care to the people of california. >> and now other schools are looking at you as a model. visiting you to see how they can do this. >> yes, and we are excited to talk about it. >> it sounds like it's gonna be the wave of the future. figuring out how to how adversity affects people more than diversity. >> i hope it can be another match for other schools to follow, of course. >> doctor, thank you for much taking the time to explain it to us. obviously we will talk again. meanwhile, there's a man hunt tonight for the violent criminals responsible stores shooting 30 people in baltimore. we've got the latest for, you next, plus, i'd like to gun owners around the country and what reforms they would be willing to live with to stop mass shootings. tisfaction,

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>> baltimore police are searching for at least two suspects in connection with a mass shooting early sunday morning that killed two young adults and injured 28 other people. most of them were teenagers. the shooting happened at the annual block party in the city's brooklyn neighborhood. investigators say they still do not know the motive. more tonight from cnn's danny freeman. >> alisyn, tonight, baltimore police still on an all-out man hunt looking for multiple shooters responsible for shooting and injuring 28 people and killing two others of the course of the weekend. the mayor today said equivocally that the city will find those responsible and

bring them to justice and put them behind bars. i just want to recap exactly how we got to this moment. it all started on saturday afternoon, into saturday evening, in baltimore's brooklyn neighborhood. they had a block party, an annual block party called brooklyn de. it has happened for the past 20 plus years. but this party, this block party, does not always happen on the same day, which is why police would later tell is that they did not have as much of a presence at this block party as they normally would have in past years. early sunday morning the party went into the evening, into the early morning, early sunday morning just after midnight then, police say multiple gunman opened fire on a crowd. at some point there were hundreds of people in the crowd, in his party, and of course 28 people were injured, and 18-year-old aaliyah gonzalez and 20-year-old kylis fagbemi were also killed. at this point there have been no arrests, but i want you to take a listen to what the mayor of baltimore said today, specifically on the topic of gun violence in his city and in this country. >> this is not just a baltimore thing. we have to be honest. this is the united states of america.

this is our longest standing public health challenge, and we need to focus on gun violence, regardless of where it happens. >> now, alisyn, at this point there's a 28,000 dollar reward for information that could lead authorities to an arrest or charges in this case. but the city is also looking ahead to more holiday weekend events, particularly tomorrow on the fourth of july, and the mayor and the city want to reassure folks in the city of baltimore that they are putting every resource they have to make sure those events that are coming up still are safe. alisyn? >> let's hope they get those shooters. thank, you danny. not a week goes by on this program we don't report on gun violence. maybe it's a mass shooting or school shooting or random deadly violence in the city. as the debate rages about second rights versus gun reform, we want to hear from gun owners themselves.

so we assembled a group of six passionate gun owners for around the country and as you will hear, even they cannot agree on the right balance between freedom and safety. but we begin with the reason they each got their guns in the first place. >> i first got a gun in 2020 and i bought a gun because there was huge riots and violence against trans women across the country. and the very first video that sparked my interest was an attack against a black trans woman by the name of ayanna dior. this attack had occurred in the middle of a gas station overnight where she was violently mobbed by 30 plus men. the only thing that would've really truly defended her from that violent mob that attacked her was a gun. and so that was when i decided to purchase my own gun. >> i grew up in michigan and hunting was a rite of passage and since then i have acquired for more guns and a shotgun, another rifle, and a couple of handguns. i only brought the handguns

after getting involved in the gun violence prevention, gun safety movement. to get familiar with handguns. >> i come from a community where guns were pretty much for criminals and law enforcement. i have never liked guns or and i was afraid of them but once i saw that the rise in crime and the fact that i had to be my own first responder i started educate myself more. i have to be able to put myself in my children and my family. >> i was out one night and i came back home and my place had been broken into so bad that the doors or been kicked off the edges. i could not repair it. i was living in a town house complex. i called police, police came to do their report, maintenance was gonna take a while, so i went, at that moment, and purchase a shotgun. >> we use your guns for sporting, for hunting, we see

the benefit that guns bring to this nation. firearms sales. fund conservation, fund land protection, we see the benefit of hunting more than just, it's fun. >> i grew up in a kind of a gun neutral family in the south. a lot of hunters, not a lot of handguns. i saw real quick after i joined the military, and a station in oklahoma city, and it is off base there, and not even the best part of town. climate will open gun shop and bought my first hand gun. personal protection was important to me. >> so, show of hands, how many of you support universal background checks? >> okay, so, three of you support universal background checks. >> universal background checks sound great in theory. but in all actuality, as we have seen, it has been on very unfairly invoked. it's marginalized communities that it's used against. >> who is not allowed to have a

gun because of the government targeting them or singling them out? >> for example, the black panther party, when they first practice the right to self defense by carrying arms, the california state legislature in introduced restrictions on the ability to carry arms. >> do you feel things has changed since the 1960s? >> i do unfortunately. i think the united states still continues to invoke the law in ways that is quite unjust. >> you just look back in any history of gun control, it is a slippery slope from one day as a background check, and then it's a red flag, then it's gun registry, day's gun conversation. the jim crow era, the black panthers, for example, that slow erosion. >> i hear that talking point a lot, where almost verbatim, a slippery slope, it starts with background checks, then it leads to database registry, and then they take your guns.

but can you give a more modern day example? >> to give you an example, i know there are some states that are doing it -- >> just understand, you are saying that some states that are doing it, what street states are constant against? >> i'm not saying states are confiscating guns. i'm seeing some states are pushing for gun registries. >> i guess i don't fall into that line of thinking of, like, if i give an instagram take a mile, because of the constitution. >> this country has a mental health problem, the guns in my house never killed anybody. so we love to blame the law-abiding gun order owner to rack up support for more gun control. >> we don't have any high higher mental illness rate than any country in the world and yet we have the highest mass shootings, school shootings, and an incredibly high gun violence rate. so it can't just be mental health in this country. why don't you think that guns are a factor in our gun violence?

>> my guns are not a factor. my point being, my rights should not be taken away because my mental health gun issue in somebody else's house in somebody else's community in chicago, and new york city. >> how many of you support red flag laws? okay, the same three who support universal background checks support red flag laws. >> the red flag laws have this potential to create the extremist points of interaction between police and black communities or marginalized communities where there is already this strain and mistrust. >> i think they can only work if you trust the state and the police and the fbi to do their jobs. unfortunately that's not the case. >> that was a common theme for people who argued against passing the -- law, that it would be abused. the fact is, in oregon we have a little over 4 million people,

but in the years i've been tracking the number of--s filed, there is less than 200, less than 200 -- are filed in a year, it's not being abused. >> i own a gun store, so a lot of times, one of our, times we get customers that come in, we're actually making sure that they are not under the influence, we're making sure that we're listening out for like statements that may, as far as our mental health about harming themselves or harming someone else. >> there's no regulation where you have to ask people. you just get, you just have taken it upon yourself for every gun sale? or is it like when use by the sensors are going off? >> this is every gun sale. we are paying attention. there's plenty of times that someone has come in and might have said something off the wall, and guess what? we had to stop the sale. >> what was something that raised suspicions? >> i mean by this can cause i want to kill my wife. >> oh. >> statements, comments, he was making, under his breath, and things like that. so this is why i totally agree with the universal background, because had we read his

background, guess what, he had a restraining order against him. we want to stop the sale. >> i want to talk about the ar-15, because that is the gun of choice for school shootings and often for most mass shootings. who has an opinion on whether or not those should be available for sale to the general public? >> my problem is, if you outlaw ar-15s or whatever, or you make the super complicated, get you gonna have to cover every other rifle on the equation. >> we already do outlaw some weapons. we outlaw automatic rifles. you still have your other guns. so where, again, where is the line in the sand? would you be in favor of zero restrictions whatsoever? >> yes. >> i would love to hear your thoughts on that conversation. you can find me at al alisyn camerota on twitter and facebook and instagram.

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