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♪ ♪ for mass shootings just hours apart. we are getting new information now about the cases and the suspects. the gunman who killed 23 people in a racist attack at a walmart in el paso, texas, will now face the families of his victims as he heads to his sentencing hearing today. we'll bring you the latest from inside the courtroom. >> plus escalating tensions leading to deadly air strikes in the middle east. we are on the ground inside the west bank where israeli forces have wrapped what they called the largest military incursion there in 20 years. i'm kate bolduan with john berman and sara sidner. you're watching "cnn news central." ♪ ♪ this morning we are learning of four mass shootings all within a span of a couple of hours overnight.
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boston, salisbury, maryland, shreveport, louisiana and washington, d.c. in total, four dead, 27 injured. this follows the deadly rampage in philadelphia. officials say the suspect there opened fire on a city street shooting people at rand am and killing five. the suspect now faces multiple charges including murder and is being held in jail without bond. cnn's josh campbell and danny freeman treicking the latest developments for us. danny, i understand you were in court for this initial appearance. what did you see? >> that's right, john. i just left court about an hour and a half ago. we relocated outside of philadelphia police headquarters, but i was in that courtroom when kimbrady carriker, 40 years old, the suspect in the quintuple homicide back from the evening before july fourth. it was a preliminary arraignment that only lasted about 15 minutes, but the judge, the magistrate judge, read off a laundry list of charges that this man is facing including
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murder, attempted murder, aggravated assault, simple assault, reckless endangerment and violation of the uniform firearms act in addition to other charges, as well. it was the first time that we've seen mr. carriker since the shooting back on july 3rd. he was sitting in a white jump suit. his arms were crossed during the duration of the proceedings and he was fairly motionless and didn't say much more than one-word responses to the public defender and the judge, as well. when we got to the conversation about bail specifically. the magistrate judge said public safety is clearly an issue here and there is no set of conditions in which speaking to the condition you wouldn't be a flight risk and that's how he got to being held without bail. cnn this morning, our folks on that show, that i actually spoke to the district attorney of philadelphia, larry krasner earlier about this case. ta take a listen to what he had to say. >> this was random.
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this was someone who set out to kill strangers which has become way too common in the united states. this is just a tragedy at the most profound, deepest level. we are talking about completely innocent bystanders who did absolutely nothing to put themselves at risk and they've suffered this horrifying consequence. >> now, in this particular preliminary arraignment, mr. carriker did not enter a plea. we reached out to the public defender's office to comment and at this point his next court appearance was on july 24th and this all stems from the july 3rd shooting, multiple victims including five dead. john, back to you. >> danny freeman, that's philadelphia. let's focus what happened in shreveport, louisiana. josh campbell, you're helping us understand. we didn't even learn about this until a couple of hours ago. what can you tell us? >> three people were killed and seven people were injured in a mass shooting overnight at a fourth of july block party in
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shreveport, louisiana. just before midnight you have members of the community that are out enjoying each other and enjoying the celebration. that celebration struck by gun fire. an unknown independent of suspects opened fire. police say they don't have suspects right now. the identity is too soon to know what the motive is. authorities did provide an update and i'll let you listen to one the lute loses of the police department to talk about how difficult it was for first responders to even get to the victims. >> getting here, even getting ems here was a difficult thing. a lot of us had to park our cars and to take off running just to get down the street because there were so many cars on the side of the street. >> authorities say that seven injured, but that number could go up as some of those who were injured transported themselves to the local hospitals rather than waiting for ambulances, so we'll be watching for that and there's an update that's expected to start at any moment. yet another mass shooting in the
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united states at a fourth of july celebration and as you mentioned, we're learning about another shooting in boston. five people shot there and another shooting in the san francisco bay area and five people shot there and certainly a very violent few days, john. >> keep us posted. thank you very much. kate? >> thank you so much, john. any moment, the gunman who killed 23 people in the walmart in el paso, texas, is about to face the families of his victims. the federal sentencing for patrick crusius pled guilty to 90 charges, half of them federal hate crimes. authorities say he carried out the attack with the sole intent of killing immigrants and mexicans. as part of the plea deal, crusius will not face a possible death sentence related to the federal charges and has agreed to accept 90 consecutive life sentences. victim impact statements are
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expected this afternoon and it could last two days. this is all happening on the federal level at this moment. crusius still faces state charges. in texas, prosecutors have said they plan to seek the death penalty there. that trial has not yet been scheduled. sara? >> now to the middle east, israel's military says it carried out air strikes in the gaza strips in response to rocket fire from palestinian militants. this latest back and forth coming just hours after israeli forces withdrew from its largest military operation in the west bank town of jenin in more than 20 years. the palestinians say the israeli operation left at least 12 people dead and more than 100 people injured. one israeli soldier was also killed in that operation. i spoke to salma abdelaziz who was on the ground there in jenin. >> what are you seeing and hearing from your vantage point? >> sara, i just want you to take a look at the utter devastation
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around me, and you are looking at me from an overhead shot because of exactly the reason you said. there is little infrastructure that is functioning right now in jenin. my cameraman is perched on a balcony just to try to get you a signal while i'm here on growth fund level. look at these piles of rubble. this is one of the main thorough fares and if you can look at it now it is completely torn up. the street has been turned to mud. you might see the flow of people. there are actually some u.n. workers just behind me here all throughout as we've been walking through. the united workers, red crescent workers and ngos trying to provide that help and support. one ngo worker told me some 7,000 to 8,000 people have been made homeless by this raid, but it is not until today that many are coming home to find out who left of their place. i want to point out this being have, and you can see the sheer force, the sheer power of this raid, the strongest, the largest
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military raid by the israeli army in 20 years. it says the israeli military says it was here to take out terror infrastructure. it was here to neutralize weapons sites that this place was being used as a terrorist haven, but for many of the families and residents who live here, it is one of the most densely populated and one of the most impoverished corners, they feel they are simply innocent and caught in the cross fire. sara? >> can you tell me, salma, what you're hearing from people because as you mentioned israel said, look, we were going after terrorist targets that have attacked israel, but there has been a call for retaliation from some of the palestinian militant groups. what are you hearing in jenin on that? what's so extraordinary, sara, when you look at the devastation across here, there is so much resistance, so much anger and so
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much defiance coming from the jenin camp. earlier today because remember, everyone just came back to the camp today. earlier today these streets were packed with a burial for those dead and thousand of people chanting in the streets that that blood will not be spilled in vain, that they will continue to fight and continue to retaliate. what was even more extraordinary is that many of those armed palestinian factions that the israeli military says it was targeting, they were sweeping through these streets and armed, shooting celebratory gun fire, continuing to say that this was defiant and i spoke to some residents who believe it or not, were telling me, we won. this was victory and this was resistance and that's the cycle of violence that means families could be caught up in another round, in another raid. remember, the israeli military said this raid is over, but it reserves the right to a talk again and with these palestinians saying they are up
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for that fight, sara, it is difficult to see how life doesn't get more difficult here. >> thanks to salma abdelaziz in jenin. kate? this afternoon president biden will welcome the ties between the two countries and it comes as sweden continues to seek membership into the nato alliance. separately, treasury secretary janet yellen is on her way to beijing as the white house tries once more to improve strained relations with china. the weiss is downplaying expectation for this trip. priscilla alvarez has more on this. >> what is the white house hoping for yellen's trip if they're downplaying expectation going in. >> kate, the goal is to smooth tensions between the two countries and this is the second cabinet-level official in the last month. secretary of state antony blinken visited china just last
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month. so treasury secretary yellen here really trying to again, smooth out those tensions at a critical time. this is a high-level engagement, and it will for her be an opportunity to meet face to face with her counterparts. now as you mentioned, a senior treasury official is setting expectations by saying they weren't expecting a significant breakthrough and just a frank conversation between the two countries, but there's a range of issues that we can still discuss. allegations of human rights abuses, responsibly managing compitn and working together on global challenges like climate change and really, over the last few months we've seen treasury secretary yellen signal a deep desire to make sure those lines of communication were open and just this week she met with the chinese ambassador here in d.c., laying the groundwork for this visit that she is going on today, and the readout from that said, quote, open lines of
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communication and that's been the throughline for the visit this year where the administration is saying, look, we need to keep talking to china especially in a moment where tensions are quite strained. kate? >> lines of communication with china are also important regarding the ongoing war in ukraine, of course, and as i everyone innone mentioned, wher the focus today? >> that will certainly be a key topic of discussion as it is going into the nato summit next week which president biden will be attending, but having the swedish prime minister here is a notable moment of support for sweden which is trying to become part -- become a nato member. particu turkey has been blocking that. that is happening days away from the nato summit where ukraine is again, a key topic of discussion. >> and a big show of support from president biden hosting the prime minister at the white house. good to see you, priscilla.
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administration officials from communicating with social media companies about content in response to a lawsuit that accuses the white house from going too far on cracking down on covid disinformation including the department of health and human services, the cdc, the doj and the fbi. >> get out! come out! >> get out of the water! >> did you see that fin? i wonder if we can put that video back up again. that was a big shark in the beach there at the florida panhandle. people there spotted it and they got understandably frightened, i think. some of them trying to get out of the water. you can hear people shouting. florida did record the highest number of unprovoked shark bites worldwide in 2022. >> a mechanical glitch on a roller coaster left eight riders stuck upside down for hours. this happened at a fair in northeastern wisconsin. authorities say the fireball
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roller coaster stalled mid-loop because of the high special equipment and teams had to be called in for the rescue which took more than three hours. sara? >> sharks and broken rollercoasters. not good. >> former vice president presidential candidate mike pence is about to make his second campaign stop of the day in iowa. he met with voters in sioux city as part of his three-day blitz in the caucus state. kyung lau has been following the campaign. she joins us from lemars, iowa, with a huge, and i say again, huge, ice cream in her hand. what is that all about? >> first of all, this is a perf perfectly respectable ice cream when you are reporting from lemars, iowa. this is the ice cream capital in the world. there is more ice cream produced by one company here more than anywhere else in the world and
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this at this ice cream shop behind me doing exactly what i'm doing over ice cream. the former vice president will be bringing his message to the people of this county. this is the county seat, this town and lemars is going to be where we are going to see the strategy unfold. it's something we've seen all week a 99-county strategy where over ice cream or corn, the vice president and the former vice president wants to re-introduce himself to iowa voters. talking about things that they can connect with and something that the campaign says that as a midwesterner, as someone who really enjoys the sort of retail politics that they believe this is how vice president mike pence will make his way as the presidential nominee for the republican party. right now he's known as trump's vp and this is a re-introduction of sorts. now the breakfast meet and greet, all of the retail politics that we've seen, the july fourth parade has focused
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on pence and his message. his former running mate and president donald trump is not here this week in iowa and it is something that mike pence did point out when asked by reporters. >> i can't account for what other campaigns decide, but for me it was vitally important where the journey to the white house always begins and to spend two miles, at times jogging uphill to take our case to the people of iowa, and i promise you, we'll keep running that hard all of the way to the finish. >> so three counties today. a total of ten this week is the plan, sara. >> i have to be honest with you, kyung. it was hard for me to pay attention because i was worried about it dripping, but i see you took care of it. that's what i'm talking about. that's our kyung lah with her team in iowa. >> forget mike pence, what are the flavors, kyung?
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there's blue? >> oh! no, no, no. this is scooper hero at the bottom here that's dripping, but my favorite, mint chocolate chip. >> i'm with you. that's good. >> girl after my own heart. >> i mean, you know. >> well, at least kyung's having fun. oh, my god, it really does look good. back to politics, no fun and not the only candidate making a push in the early voting states and republican hopefuls as weave seen in iowa and new hampshire and donald trump as was just pointing out on july fourth is usa white house correspondent, francesca chambers and republican strategist doug hyde. your favorite flavor in iowa, doug. go! >> well, if we were talking about le mars, iowa, i talk about the benny which is a huge steak at archie's wayside in le mars. i'm sure that's kyung's next stop and when you talk about meet and greet, you spell it
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m-e-a-t, that's for sure. >> get back to the business at hand. this is how you connect with voters and you kiss babies and shake hands and we're back to typical politics if one can even believe it even just for a moment. what do you think how mike pence is going so far in do you think there's enough evangelical christians in iowa to push him past donald trump? >> candidates will have another opportunity in iowa around the time of the iowa state fair which is another great time for them to engage in those retail politics. they often go to the pork chop stand. i'm sure that we'll be seeing more as the summer progressives. as far as mike pence himself, it is very clear how big iowa is in his strategy given that he chose to spend the fourth of july there with other competitors and went to new hampshire, instead and it's a state that he's targeting because of his evangelical, but he clearly has
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work to do there given that it's a lynchpin of his strategy. he still trails former president donald trump and he trails ron desantis in the state and he's taking heavy competition in iowa from tim scott as well as nikki haley. >> the fact, doug, that trump continues to lead the pack as we know and he's double digits ahead of ron desantis and something stuck out to me this week with regard to that competition and the super pac acowledged they have a ways to go. >> look, right now in national polling we are way behind. i'll be the first to admit that. i'm being blunt and honest. cl it is an uphill battle and clearly donald trump is the front-runner. what do you think of that approach, doug? >> i'm all for honesty and letting people peek behiebdnd t
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curtain. i don't think donald trump is the runaway at this point because that suggests he'll run away with it, but it highlights the work that mook peike pence nikki haley have to do and not just the large evangelical community. iowa is a network that requires a deep network in 99 counties and it's why you're seeing the candidates there and not just in places like des moines, but they'll get a winner set, and they'll go to emmitsburg, all of these small communities. expect to see you there. with july fourth, we'll be talking about an iowa where we'll have the state fair where every republican candidate should make not just an appearance, but spend a lot of time there talking to voters. >> francesca, there are 12 republicans now now running. the most recent to run was
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congressman will hurd, and i asked him about the question that remains. it is an unknown and it's important for the candidates to answer which is the republican field in 2016 worked to the benefit of donald trump, and i asked him how it's going to be different this time around. listen to this. >>. >> in 2016, donald trump started at 1% and he was talking about making america great again, and people thought he was exciting. now they think he's boring. he's talking about the same thing. he's talking about the past and not talking about the future. do we have to accept this crumby fate and do nothing to try to solve that problem? the answer is no. >> francesca, what do you think of that? >> i don't think that you're going to see any of those candidates drop out or start thinking about consolidating until after we get past that first debade in august 23rd. many of the campaigns and candidate it is think the person will get on the stage and they'll have that big moment that will pull ahead in the field. when you talk to folks like
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this morning ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy said objects that look like explosive devices are at the top of the zaporizhzhia power plant controlled by russia. the russians could san tang the plant. he says, quote, the world sees and the world is ready to respond. overnight we've seep new video
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out of eastern ukraine. an explosion in the city held by the russians and this could be the sign of ukrainian effort in their counteroffensive. let's start now with scott mclean. i want to discuss this charge, this accusation from the ukrainians that the russians are actively trying to sabotage the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant. what do we know? >> it requires a bit of context. the ukrainians aren't offering evidence to back this up. second off, they are saying essentially that they believe that the russians would make this explosion look as if it was ukrainian shelling and they don't believe it was strong enough to actually damage the functioning of a reactor itself. that's number one. the russians are denying that there's any threat to their side. in pfact, the real spokesman is saying, quote, there's a great threat of sabotage by kyiv which can have catastrophic consequences and they've pointed to the fact that there are
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inspectors from the international atomic energy agency which are on site, and we heard from them today saying with the director general rafael grossi saying that they have been able to look around the plant and they haven't seen evidence of explosions or explosive devices, i should say, but they caveat it with this. the iaea experts have requested additional access necessary to conform the absence of mines or explosives at the site in particular, access to the rooftops of reactor three and four as well as the turbine halls in some parts of the cooling system of the plant. we do have the latest satellite images. they are not from today ore yesterday. they are from last week, and at least to the untrained eye, there's nothing that seems unusual or out of the ordinary can tell thus far.tops that we its portant to note that these reactors are built inside containment, that at least in theory are supposed to withstand
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the force of an accidental plane crash, whether or not they can stand up to the weapons of war, that's another question, john, and also we're getting some reassuring signs, i should say, thankfully from the experts on both sides that people in charge of the nuclear agencies in the ukrainian side and the russian-occupied side that the things are normal and the radiation levels are normal and the hope for everyone is that they stay that way. >> scott mclean, thank you very much for helping us understand what might be happening there. sara? >> joining us now is steve hall, cnn national security analyst and former cia chief of russian operations to delve into this more. all right. you just heard the back and forth here. ukraine saying that russia is potentially trying to blow up this nuclear reactor, and then russia turning around and saying the same thing. what does this tell you about how close we could have come to the use of nuclear weapons in
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this war? >> yes. this is a bit of an informational attack on both sides that's going on. certainly, russia understands the sensitivities with regard to anything with the word nuclear in it. whether it's a nuclear weapon, whether it's a nuclear war or nuclear things or whether it's a nuclear facility or power-generating station in this particular case. i think what we have to ask ourselves until we find out what's going on is who gains and how much and the russians control the area right now would gain significant things if they were to, indeed control this thing because it would be a big issue that would focus or probably make nato and the west say, geez, are we pushing russia too far? would the ukrainians control a significant piece of infrastructure and gain the moral high ground they're currently standing on. whenever you're talking about nuclear stuff, it is worth paying attention to.
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>> very much so. when i was there every time we talked about the zaporizhzhia plant there was real fear in people's hearts. it's just not something that they ever want to deal with. i want to move now to china's president xi. we are reportedly learning that he got a face to face in march with putin, and that happened, but he warned putin against the use of nuclear weapons. there is a denial happening. russia saying that didn't happen. there was no conversation on that particular point, but how important would china be weighing in on this particular issue? >> i think pretty important for the russians because, of course, china is much more of a super power than russia is. russia isn't a super power and it's developing nuclear weapon which is is dangerous, but they really depend on the chinese not only for trade and other things that benefit the russian nation and its economy, but just for
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moral support as well. they got not as many supporters as they would like internationally. so what the chinese say is important -- excuse me, the russians are, of course, denying this. peskov is saying it didn't happen which in my view is good reason to believe it probably did. >> let's talk about the sort of power struggle there in russia. putin clearly been trying to clean up and show his leadership, show that he is powerful after this revolt, this attempted mutiny involving some of the numbers potentially of his brass, his military brass and prigozhin, the head of the wagner mercenary group. what do you think putin is doing right now to try and make his power obvious, but also, is he on shaky ground as you see it? >> i think he could be, and we have to see what's going to happen. this is a futile situation when you have a powerful guy at the top and a lot of sub-powers
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underneath all of whom are vying for real power in the country. it is hard to know what goes on behind kremlin walls and putin was exposed weaker than he was a few weeks ago. it's amazing that this happened. >> it is highly unusual to see this play out especially in the public sphere, as well. steve hall, always a pleasure. thank you very much for your analysis. kate? >> coming up for us. a powdery substance found at the white house and a field test determined that it was possibly cocaine, and we have new details coming up on that. and the day in court that victims and their families have likely been waiting for and also dreading. the federal sentencing for a racist mass murderer is under way. we'll be back.r dige stive healt, but less than 10% of us get enough each day. good thing metamucil gummies are an easy way to get prebiotic, plant-babased fiber. with the same amount of fiber as 2 cups of b broccoli. metamucil gummies ththe easy way to get your daily fiber. you founded your kayak company because you love the ocean- not spreadsheets.
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in texas, the racist gunman who killed 23 people at an el paso, walmart, is going to soon face the families of his victims. the sentencing hearing for patrick crusius is getting under way. he pleaded guilty in february to 90 charges, half of them federal hate crimes. prosecutors say he carried out the attack with the sole intent of killing immigrants and mexicans. rosa flores is live in el paso, texas, and she's joining us from outside the hearing. the hearing was getting under way just this hour. what's been happening so far in court? >> you know, it's already emotional, kate. patrick crusius, the defendant in this case walked into the courtroom wearing a blue jump suit and as soon as that happened we could hear the emotion from the side where the victim's families are sitting which is on the right side of
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the courtroom, the media is on the left side, but you could hear their emotion, and i can tell you that before court even started, the community arrived very early to this courthouse to make sure that they were present. i spoke to the family members of one of the victims and they said that they're hoping that what all of this brings is positiveness in the sense of this community in el paso coming together to fight hate because that is what they are seeing in that courtroom today is what they said in how they put it. so what is going on so far? what has happened is the judge asked patrick crusius, the defendant, if he had a chance to read through the sentencing report. the defendant responded, yes, sir, and then the judge went on to list the type of crimes which include hate crimes and also the use of a firearm with an attempt
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to kill, and of course, there are 90 federal charges that this defendant has pleaded guilty to, and then the judge went on to go through every single count. he named the names of the victims in saying that these individuals were victims of a hate crime and then he went on with the pre-sentencing procedures in this case, which include the adjustment of the -- the level of the offense, the level of the crime, and there are two reasons that this judge has listed so far in the moments that i've been inside the courtroom for the reason to up the level of the offense for this defendant patrick crusius and one of those is -- these are the words from the judge saying that the defendant chose these victims because of their national origin or ethnicity.
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the other reason, and of course, for every single count it is different. in some cases these were elderly individuals and the reason the judge is listing inside the courtroom for -- for upping the offense of this crime is because he says that crusius knew her should have known that these were vulnerable individuals. now, kate, we know that this defendant has already pleaded guilty to these 90 federal charges which include hate crime. he has the right to make a statement before the court or his attorney has the right to make a statement for him. we don't know if that is going to happen and then, of course, we're expecting the victim impact statements to happen after that. kate? >> all right. we'll check back in with you because these victim impact statements could be a couple of days to hear from all of the victims here. rosa, thank you for being there. john? >> a mysterious substance at the white house prompts a temporary
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because another new tax is the last thing we need. paid for by ccia. we have breaking news. lab tests just back on the powdery substance found in the white house over the weekend have come back positive for cocaine. this substance was found, briefly forced an evacuation there. preliminary test said it was cocaine. now these other lab tests have come back. we should note that president biden was at camp david as this first unfolded over the weekend. he returned to washington
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tuesday morning. let's go to the white house. priscilla alvarez is there. this does raise a lot of questions about how the substance got there. >> reporter: it certainly does. one of the big questions is how it entered the white house to begin with. now as you mentioned, a person familiar is now confirming that the lab tests have shown it is positive for cocaine. sources had previously told cnn that field tests in the moment had determined that it was possibly cocaine. we now know that that is the case. now where it was found was in the west wing, in a common area, not an individual office, and also an area where private group-led tours pass through. we know the substance was found near where the guests are asked to leave their cell phones before proceeding into the west wing. now of course this did prompt that brief evacuation on sunday evening, and they called in washington, d.c., fire department which deployed their
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hazmat suits to try to determine what this was. and now since sunday we are learning that it is, indeed, cocaine. again, this is part of an ongoing investigation. we're trying to get more from the secret service as, again, how this got into the white house, and who brought it in. all of those questions still lingering. at the least, those lab tests are now in. john? >> an investigation being led by the secret service, priscilla. and we should note, clearly they know everyone who goes into that building. it is a known quantity. >> reporter: that's right. i come in and out of this building on a regular basis, and you do have to pass, just like you would at the airport, through security. and so the question now is going to be how this came to be. secret service is the one who's going to be fielding those questions. >> all right. it is intriguing. thank you so much for latest on that. it was suspected, the field test said cocaine. now these more conclusive lab tests. yeah. >> i would like to know blow by blow who was responsible for
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this. >> too soon. >> there is no too soon. no one was injured as far as we know. and it's -- elicit drug at the white house. why can't you have a bit of fun with it? >> i don't believe in fun. >> no, he doesn't. "cnn news central" is up next. you just enter your licensnse plate or your vin, answer a few questions.. boom, you get a real offer. sell your car toto carvana toda.
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