classified documents probe. we begin this morning on two federal investigations into donald trump. just hours from now, donald trump's personal aide and alleged co-conspirator walt nauta is set to plead not guilty in the classified documents case. this comes after a judge unsealed more of the mar-a-lago search warrant. the previously redacted information reveals the fbi obtained surveillance video of nauta moving dozens of boxes in and out of a storage room before the justice department showed up to retrieve any and all classified documents that trump had. >> meanwhile arizona's former house speaker made big news on cnn last night about the special counsel's investigation into the 2020 election interference. >> we talked about your call with trump and with giuliani. have you been subpoenaed by the special counsel?

>> i -- that is a great question. i'm hesitant to talk about any subpoenas, et cetera, but i have been interviewed by the fbi. >> in the january 6 investigation? excuse me, in the effort to overturn the election results. >> correct, it was four hours of a discussion they had with me. >> now, remember the former republican house speakerrous it i b rusty bowers refused to bow to intimidation to get him to decertify the biden victory in arizona. he testified before the january 6 house select committee about phone calls he received from rudy giuliani and former president trump. katelyn polantz has the latest for us. and we'll get to that in a minute, but first we're coming up on walt nauta's hearing this morning. what should we know? >> he is accused of obstruction

and making false statements. he is set to be in court this morning. short and sweet is what we expect this proceeding to be. he needs to enter his pleading of not guilty, that has been expected for a long time now. and finally today he think that that will be happening where there will be a lawyer showing up with nauta, a possibility nauta is there himself. but this proceeding, it puts the focus on this co-defendant of donald trump, a man who is so aligned with him that they are rarely seen apart whenever trump is traveling for political reasons. trump is not going to be there at the hearing today. but this is really highlighting how walt nauta is a defendant on his own and so he will kick off this proceeding entering that pleading. but also these two men are so aligned, they both want to go to trial sources are telling me, that is the plan for both of them, trump and nauta both even if their interests could diverge

at some point. and trump has been very looped in on walt nauta's legal defense approach, who his lawyers might be, his defense team is fully clued in and also donald trump will be paying for walt nauta's lawyering going forward. or at least entities that trump controls will be doing so. >> so that the classified documents probe. the other probe special counsel jack smith is overseeing in terms of efforts to overturn the 2020 election, that probe got more interesting last night with news that rusty bowers talked to the fbi for four hours. why does that matter so much? >> it did. this is one of those people that you would expect criminal investigators looking into the efforts this battle ground states to overturn joe biden's wins there and put trump into power, you expect them to reach out to someone like rusty bowers. but we didn't know that he had actually spoken to investigators and what he spoke about. and what rusty bowers said he

had talked to investigators about were calls he had directly with rudy giuliani and donald trump after the election where they were pressuring him and he was saying, no, show me evidence of election fraud. and they couldn't do it. and so he is just another person now in arizona that like others in its investigation has talked about the direct calls that they received from trump. we know in recent weeks brad raffensperger in georgia who got that call from trump to find votes in georgia, he too was speaking to investigators. so all this goes into this criminal investigation and whether they may want to charge trump and others. >> katelyn polantz, thanks so much. >> and let's talk about all of this with elie honig. good morning to you. rusty bowers, the significance? >> this is a big deal. let's remember, there has been so much focus on the state of georgia.

however, this was really a cord natured acseven state strategy. the state so closely contested was arizona. and we know that the feds are looking not just at georgia but also at least at arizona. big news from last night is that rusty bowers, former arizona house speaker, a long time republican who actually supported donald trump in 2020, we learned last night that he has been interviewed by the fbi in the special counsel investigation for foyer ur hour. that is a huge deal. and he said he was asked about donald trump, rudy giuliani, john eastman. but flashback to almost a year ago today when rusty bowers testified in front of the house january 6 committee. let's listen to what he said. >> at some point did one of them make a comment that they didn't have evidence but they had a lot of theories? >> that was mr. giuliani.

he said we've got a lot of theories but we don't have the evidence. and i don't know if that was a gaffe, maybe he didn't think through what he said. but i said what would you have me do? and he said just do it and let's the court sort it out. >> so crucial testimony there and again we now know that he has spoken with jack smith's team. >> we learned that the arizona secretary of state office has been subpoenaed by the special counsel. >> yeah, this is a subpoena meaning that the arizona secretary of state has to turn over documents to the special counsel team. now, what could they be looking at. let's remember one of the key focuses of the doj investigation is this fake elector scheme. here is what it means. the same seven states we talked about, each submitted a purported slate of electors, documents. they sent it into the archives to the senate saying we are the

duly electors for donald trump. we know doj has spoken with some of the people who signed and claimed to be electors. we don't know exactly who. we know they have been given immunity which tells me doj sees them as witnesses and thinks their testimony is relevant to their ongoing criminal investigation. >> and also this is days after the "washington post" reported that trump tried to treasure then governor dugs doug ducey. but they haven't talked to him yet? >> and again, things may change. we just learned about the interview involving rusty bowers. doug ducey was the governor of arizona at the time. we know he received calls from donald trump about trying to overturn the election. it is curious to me if doj hasn't spoken to him. any witness list that includes rusty bowers should also include governor ducey. so next time he is on air,

someone needs to ask him if he has spoken with the fbi or been subpoenaed. >> all right. let's talk about all of this. john avlon is back along with margaret hoover. margaret, let me begin with you and the significance of this for the probe. obviously it tells us that it is getting bigger. >> and first thing i thought of, you know, last official entity that tried to put all of these disparate pieces of open source information that we the public knew about was the january 6 commission. and this strikes me that they did a real favor to the public by threading all of -- putting all of the data together this one narrative and doj is now following all of that. but with the gears of justice behind it. this is no longer an accusation from a house committee that doesn't have anymore authority other than to put the story together in one piece. this is now the justice accident. >> and led by a guy who has

prosecuted democrats and republicans before. >> john, context. >> look, farmargaret is right. doj was a little slow to pick it up, but now since jack smith has been appointed, and a record of being clear and impartial investigator, things are accelerating. folks have focused on georgia but they have to gotten about the other six states and the complete clown car crash of arizona in terms of the desperate searching for voter fraud where there was none. and so this is -- sometimes we forget because we get caught up in the day to day. there is nothing quite like this in american history, this attempt to overturn an election by a sitting president. and what they seem to be zeroing in on is the question of intent. and that is where it all comes to bear. >> and there is a notable shift in the pace of the investigation since jack smith became special

counsel in november. a year ago now, we were in the midst of those and i think really important january 6 committee hearings and a lot of folks were saying where isis do where are they getting beat to the punch on some of those witnesses. and frankly that is on merrick gar land. but jack smith has been doing the kinds of things that people were saying where is merrick garland on this. and look, he has now spoken to a lot of different crucial people up to and including mike pence. so i do think that his decision day is drawing near. we don't know when, but it has to be soon. >> this pence ad that john thinks is the biggest domestic political story of the day, and it is the pro pence pac. say that three times fast. let's play a bit of it. >> america doesn't stand with thugs. and dictators. we confront them. or at least we used to.

>> mr. gorbachev, tear down this wall. >> there can be to room in the leadership of the republican party for apologists for putin. there can only be room for champions of freedom. >> post pence vice presidency says all of what his former boss did with kim jung-un and putin is bad. what do you think about this ad? >> so i read mike pence's biography that came out just a few months ago, or a year ago maybe. i interviewed mike pence on my program on pbs. i did it so john avlon didn't have to. i understand why he is surprised. but the truth is it was very clear as mike pence was writing his campaign document that is his biography that this is the place he was going to differentiate himself from donald trump apart from january 6. it was all going to be about foreign policy. he makes the point of telling

the story about how he went up to vladimir putin so vladimir putin would know the guy beside donald trump knew that they had interfered in the 2016 election. he makes a point of telling the stories about each of the dictators that he had interactions with, how his interactions ss differentiated m donald trump's interactions with them, that he didn't tolerate the fawning nature that donald trump had with dictators around the world. so i'm not at all surprised that while the pac does it and it is not sanctioned, not coordinated, this narrative was blasted in mike pence's autobiography. >> it is about time he started doing it in public as opposed to the book. but i think that it is a big deal he is drawing that contrast in an ad. because is this a point of clear differentiation on conviction. and the fact that he didn't make those noises in public -- >> conviction maybe. >> yes. but good. this is a clear contrast that

should be drawn. complete contradiction of decades of frankly bipartisan foreign policy where american presidents don't kiss up to dictators. >> and i'll give you credit, he never -- >> how about that. >> -- he never dismisses the things donald trump did. he never dissoerp disassociates from the record of donald trump. >> what did he say or not say after the trump/bill o'reilly interview about equivocating. >> i mean, he sat in the box at the olympics with kim jung-un's sister. >> and he makes a clear point of orchestrating that in a way that sent a very clear signal. that is what he says in his book. >> all right. thank you all. >> we now know where the wagner chief yevgeny prigozhin is at least said to be this hour. and it is not belarus.

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dramatic turn of events this morning for the russian mercenary leader accused of launching a rebellion. alexander lukashenko says prigozhin is in st. peters wurg burg in russia instead of belarus. and police raided prigozhin's properties in st. petersburg last week. and russian government claimed it was dropping charges against him, but this morning kremlin refused to comment to cnn. during the raids russian police say they uncovered gold, money and guns and wigs and several passports allegedly belonging to the mercenary leader under different aliases. we have team coverage from washington to ukraine to belarus. let's start with matthew chance. he is live in minsk. of course he spoke with

president lukashenko. tell us more about what you learned. this bombshell that prigozhin is in russia. >> reporter: yeah, absolutely stunning, isn't it. and i'm talking to you of course from the palace of independence, which is this extraordinary marble structure in the middle of the square. and lukashenko gathered a few journalists for a conversation he said about the recent dramatic events. and i asked him, you know, what about wagner, what is happening with the supposed deal that he brokered to end the military standoff in russia last week and give yevgeny prigozhin who is the wagner leader and his fighters exile in exchange for them calling off that uprise. take a listen to what lukashenko had to say. >> i wonder if you could provide us all with a bit of an update

on the whereabouts of the wagner leader yevgeny prigozhin. is he he in belarus or not? >> translator: in terms of yevgeny prigozhin, he is in st. peters p petersburg. or maybe he will travel to mass cow or elsewhere. but he is not on the territory of belarus now. >> reporter: so he is not in belarus and that contradicts the statements that the belarusian leader had made in the past, that he was in belarus, and it throws open the whole question, is this deal that was negotiated to end the wagner uprising last week, is it being renegotiated. because state television in russia earlier today is broadcasting images of what they say is a police raid of prigozhin's house in st. pe pete petersburg, at least one of them. they seized gold, cash, passports with fake names on it. wigs presumably used for

disguise. it is a whole sort of process, a crackdown it seems on anything do with wagner, anything do with yevgeny prigozhin. and it doesn't bode well for the man who headed wagner, of course still heads it, but who led that rebellion against the kremlin. so we'll see what happens in the future. lukashenko the leader of belarus saying he does not know what will happen, but he did say that he did not think that putin would kill prigozhin. he said that is not something that he believes will happen. but the very fact that he raised that possibility of prigozhin being killed does not bode well for the wagner leader. >> there were so many questions about prigozhin's future before this news conference and of course this creates many more. matthew, stay with us. ukrainian officials say four people are dead, many more injured this morning after a russian missile strike on an apartment building in lviv. rescue teams are digging through the rubble right now trying to find anyone trapped inside. the city's mayor says dozens of homes and cars were also

damaged. ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy is promising a, quote, tangible response. ben wedeman joining us live from eastern ukraine. ben, how are the rescues going so far? >> reporter: they have been doing this since about 3:00 in the morning local time just after the missile hit. and at the moment the death toll is at least four with at least 37 injured. among the dead is a 21-year-old journalist, a woman, and also among the dead is a 95-year-old woman who survived the se secon world war. this is a city in the far west of ukraine, considered one of the safer areas. and therefore a lot of people have actually fled to lviv in the hopes that they would be

safer. but clearly this underscores there is nowhere in ukraine that is safe. another thing that has come out is as many as ten bomb shelters in lviv were locked shut when this happened. and therefore there is an investigation into why they were shut. partially probably because so many people didn't expect lviv to be targeted in this way. now, also significant, it was a caliber missile that hit the building. and that is a russian hypersonic missile that is very accurate, it carries a payload of more than 1,000 pounds of high explosives. it is that exact kind of rocket that hit the restaurant here in kramatorsk last week killing 13 people. >> and then before you go, i understand that you spoke with several captured russian soldiers near bakhmut recently?

what did they tell you? >> reporter: well, they told us stories of an army or at least an army of convicts that are on the frontlines that only received two week of basic training compared to for instance the u.s. army has ten weeks of basic training that they didn't have enough supplies, they didn't have enough weapons, they had very little food, their commanders were oftentimes under the influence of drugs and were given nonsensical orders. it really paints a picture of disorder in the russian ranks. they seem to be escaping the bottom of the barrel. two of the prisoners we spoke to had been convicted on drug charges and the only way that they got out of prison was to sign up for this six month contract. and so it really paints a picture of an army that is not too impressive. >> absolutely does.

that is startling. ben, thank you for the reporting. matthew chance is back with us now along with former moscow bureau chief jill dougherty and also steve hall. steve, let me start with you. if this is true from belarusian president lukashenko that prigozhin is in st. petersburg, not in belarus, what does this it he will you about the deal, what does it suggest about putin's decisions moving forward? >> putin still must be asking myself how do i solve a problem like prigozhin. there was a plan initially which now after lukashenko has spoken appears not to be the neatly tied package that all of us were presented last week. so the real question is why is prigozhin even still alive at this particular point. let's review what he's done. his troops marched halfway to moscow killing a bunch of russian service men that attacked him along the way.

he publicly criticized putin's real reason for invading ukraine which supposedly is to rid the country of naziism and nato threats and all other nonsense. any single one of these things would seem to have under normal circumstances spelled the doom of prigozhin and yet he still lives. possible he has more power than putin would want him to. he was received well in rostov and he might have supporters in moscow, otherwise where else would he send his troops to try to get there. so a lot of questions still out there, but putin doesn't exactly know what to do with him at this point. >> you know russia, jill, you know the putin 23 years in power and his mind better than so many people. why do you think prigozhin is still alive? >> i think putin has two problems. he has prigozhin and he has prigozhin's men, the wagner people. so what do you do with

prigozhin. prigozhin is kind of a road scholar, you know, at least for a while winning battles, taking wagner, et cetera. but he was very value only because he ran this big operation that literally around the world especially in conflict zones and also we can't for get running the factory in st. petersburg that interfered in the american election in 2016. so this die guy had a lot of po and of course that is a problem when there is a rebellion against putin. so i think what you are doing is the deal was organized ultimately by putin, that deal with lukashenko. lukashenko is a soviet era guy saying, well, i don't know what is going on. and so prigozhin is apparently back in st. petersburg. why in t?

that is where his office and residence is. so i think they will probably prosecute him for corruption. and you see that playing out on russian tv. and then of course you have to figure out what to do with wagner which is another issue. it is very valuable. but back to the basics, putin created this because it is a product of all of the corruption of his government. >> matthew, i found it a bit ironic when you say you are standing in the hall of independence there in minsk. one of the hallmarks of lukashenko has his allyship with putin. >> some people called him putin's puppet. >> does this happen, this confirmation from lukashenko, without permission from putin, without the direction from the kremlin? >> reporter: it is interesting what you say because you are

right, increasing loifr the past couple of years really since 2020 when there was a big civil uprising here in belarus, lukashenko has become increasingly dependent on financial support from moscow, on diplomatic support. he's been isolated by much of the rest of the world because the terrible human rights reoit using belarus as a launch pad to start the war, using belarus to deploy tactical nuclear weapons controlled by russia but to further threaten the west. and of course using lukashenko i suspect, although lukashenko says it was his initiative, but i and many people suspect that it was the kremlin that forced luke ashenko to hold out that olive branch to prigozhin

decide diffuse the immediate crisis. i think that lukashenko should have acted earlier to decide fuse the animosity between prigozhin and the defense minister and that chief of staff shoigu who he was criticizing fiercely and wochbtone of the r that he went on the military uprising. but it all got out of hand and so he has been managing the crisis ever since. i think now russia is really moving to, you know, dissolve wagner businesses and discredit prigozhin perhaps ahead of an arrest. >> and to put a button on it, steve, how striking is it what matthew just experienced this morning? i mean, they got called to this sort of make shift press conference, and then all of a sudden they hear the stunning news from lukashenko.

>> yeah, it is really fascinating. lukashenko is indeed under the thumb of putin, he is under greater threat from moscow than he is from kyiv. one of the great opportunities, you don't have to speak to the press. but he chose do so, which means he must have thought that there was an advantage in it to him. he may think that if the wagner guys are in or arrived this belarus that he might have some leverage against moscow, perhaps he doesn't need to be putin's puppet forever. >> steve, matthew, jill, thank you all. still some questions obviously there. u.p.s. workers edging closer to a strike after marathon negotiations with the teamsters union broke down yesterday. we have the teamsters president, sean o'brien, to give us an update, next.

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contract negotiations went nowhere. and if an agreement is not reached by the end of the month, those distinctive brown trucks could be in their -- stopped in their tracks i should say. a strike could have major economic consequences. since about 6% of gdp moves on u.p.s. trucks. here is the teamsters president before talks broke down. >> give us what we deserve and we'll go out there and ratify this agreement. or they can take the other road where they don't concede to our demands, they stay loyal to wall street, and forget about main street. >> and sean o'brien is with us now. sir, good to have you. first, how far apart are you two? >> we made significant progress since january. we were down to economics and we thought that we would have a deal around 4:15 a.m. yesterday morning, but u.p.s. quite boldly

told us there was no more to give, we were focused on the part-time portion of the u.p.s. workers who work -- part-time poverty doesn't work for us in teamsters anymore, so we're fighting hard to take care of the part-timers and u.p.s. said we don't have anymore to give. >> and you made progress on the mld holiday, on air conditioning for new vehicles. other things as well. but when you say the economics, what are you asking for and what won't they give? give me more about what the gap is here. >> there is a gap, no doubt that the u.p.s. full-timers make good wages, good benefits. but what people don't know in the neighborhoods they see their u.p.s. driver and love him or her and are happy, but they don't see the unsung heros that go to work at 4:00 a.m. those trucks don't go out unless they are loaded. and part-time workers are working for poverty wages and we need to reward those people that made supply chain solution happen during the pandemic and

u.p.s. made record profits. $100 billion. they need to share some of that. they are focused on rewarding wall street. they should focus on rewarding main street. those are the men and women who make them a success. >> you're talking about the drivers and pre-loaders. i have several truck gdrivers i family, so i know the work. and you talk about being well comm commentated. you acknowledged that starting salary is $93,000 a year at the top of the industry. so people who are at home hearing that u.p.s. might be the workers might be going on strike, and they are already at the top of the heap starting for this, they question why. you tell those folks who are going to be inconvenienced what? >> well, i'll tell them simply u.p.s. doesn't give $93,000 out of the kindness of their heart, we've been fighting for decades and decades. u.p.s. drivers and pre-loaders and all part-timers provide tremendous amount of service.

u.p.s. is making record profits, $100 billion. they doubled their profits. they need to take care of those people and stop worrying about wall street and fos the people at main street. >> let me read this to you from the u.p.s. they say teamsters have stopped negotiating despite stic proposals that build on our industry leading pay, refusing to negotiate creates significant unease among employees and customers and threatens to disrupt the u.s. economy. you say to that what? >> that statement is compelling but highly inaccurate. u.p.s. chose to walk away. and if there is a strike, it will be u.p.s. striking themselves. >> does this in some way hurt the drivers and those pre-loaders ultimately ? after the last strike there was a loss of some of the business that was not reclaimed. there are some experts and analysts in the field who say that maybe u.p.s. will get 70% back of its business. but maybe not all of it. and of course that would require potentially fewer pre-loaders,

fewer drivers and then that comes back to your teamsters members. >> well, u.p.s. whatever they choose to do, if they choose to do the right thing and concede to the demands, we'll be fine. if they don't, that is a self-inflicted wound that they will have to shoulder the burden of that. look, like anything else, u.p.s. is good times and bad times. this volume will come back. they will need to hire more people. so any negative impact on this will be self-inflicted. >> and it won't impact your members. >> it could, but it will be a short term impact. >> last question for you. do you think a strike is more likely now than not? >> i didn't think so as of 4:15 yesterday morning. but again, if they choose not do the right thing, they will be striking themselves. >> sean o'brien, thank you so much. >> a fascinating interview because it affects everyone. >> it affects industry, the individual, 6% of gdp, and

340,000 people might be on the picket lines. >> and you have truck drivers in your family. >> yeah, in my family. >> and so we'll see where it goes. casey desantis hitting the campaign triail in iowa, her first solo event. we'll take a deeper look into the role she's playing. i got a new credit card, and i'm even finding ways to save. finally getting smart about money feelels really good. see all you can do with the e free experian app. download it now.

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casey desantis first lady of florida who is currently on a mission to be the next first lady of the united states, she is hitting the campaign trail in iowa today, it marks her first solo event in support of her husband's presidential event. the once former news anchor has been dried y described as the governor's closest adviser. so let's talk about all of it with someone who those her extraordinarily well in terms of her reporting. political editor of the tampa bay times is joining us. thanks for joining us. we'll see her out solo for the first time today. and she's been described by many as desantis' clothes sest advis someone he really trusts and leans on. what should the voters expect

from her? >> so this is her first time with a sholo event, but all of s know casey's appearances very well. she's been doing this type of thing for a long time in the aid of her husband's political career. and she -- one of the greatests assets she is viewed as bringing politically is her ability to humanize ron desantis. he is at this point well-known that he is not somebody who is naturally warm. he can be viewed as awkward or aloof and n. one-on-one interactions and sometimes on stage. and casey as former talk show host and t vflt reporter is very good about telling anecdotes about the family, getting a laugh out of people about the kids and bringing a warmth in the way that she describes his political agenda even. so that is something that i think we'll see in iowa today. >> and that is often the role of

a spouse in some of the political campaigns, right? every cycle the spouse of the candidate is often called the secret weapon. hillary clinton was the secret weapon. michelle obama. nancy reagan was a secret weapon. but talk about this political relationship and how this is different. >> absolutely. yes, casey is definitely much more than a spouse who stands next to her husband and waves at the crowd. everybody in florida politics knows that she is his closest adviser. desantis is known for keeping a very small inner circle. he doesn't easily trust people. she is the same way. and so a former campaign official once told me that the sounding board starts and stops with casey. so their small inner circle, at the core of it is her. and she is the one who will, you know, counsel him on all sorts

of decisions policy and political. >> and you write in your profile on her which is fascinating about a role that she played in this ad for his 2020 re-election campaign. i want to play part of that ad. >> if you want to know who ron desantis really is, when i was diagnosed with cancer and i was facing the battle for my life, he was the dad who took care of my children when i couldn't. he was there to pick me off of the ground when i literally could not stand. he was there to fight for me when i didn't have the strength to fight for myself. that is who ron desantis reportt that that was unscripted. how did floridians react to it? >> yes, that's correct. and that ad was i would say the most -- probably the most talked about ad in terms of the 2022

gubernatorial midterm election here in florida. and what is interesting about it, it doesn't feature ron desantis directly at all, but it was considered the most effective ad of his re-election campaign because of this sort of raw emotion that we see from casey and her ability like i said to really give him a more human lens. and give what feels like, you know, fairly intimate insight into a struggle that they didn't give a lot of public access to which was her battle with breast cancer. >> today is the first likely many solo events for casey desantis. thanks so much for the insight. and nearly half of all tap water in the u.s. is believed to be contaminated with forever chemicals. >> yikes. >> fill up your glass. dr. sanjay gupta is here to break down the results of a new study and what it will mean for

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gupta. a new government stud estimates nearly half of the tap water in the u.s. is contaminated with forever chemicals. a scientists now believe human made chemicals are much more hazardous to our health than previously believed. cnn chief medical correspondent d sanjay gupta is joining us now. is this as bad as it sounds? >> look, we have known about these chemicals for some time. i think what the new study highlights is just how prevalent these chemicals are and there has been some new data, victor, about how problematic they could be as well. first of all, the chemicals, these forever chemicals, a lot of people know them as pfas

chemicals. polyfluorinated al kyle substances. that's an acronym. that makes your pans nonstick pans. so you imagine a stubstance tha does that to your pans, if it gets in the environment, it's indestructionable. that's why they are called the forever chemicals. in this particular study, we know they are out there, how prevalent is this. they looked at 700 sites around the country and picked areas that urban areas, a lot of humans living there, rural areas and protected lands. these were theifferent types of sites. what they found was in 45% of the collections these chemicals did exist. they ested in all of these ea they were more prevalent as yo might guess in areas more affected by humans. urban areas, for example, had the most of these pfas

chemicals. but even in protected lands they also found pfas. so they are pretty ubiquitous. one thing about the health impacts, when you have something that's so prevalent, it's hard to draw correlations between the chemicals and other medical issues. but over decades now they have been looking at this and they have found that it can be associated with certain types of cancer, thyroid diseases and most recently at lower concentrations they can be problematic. so those are sort of the new findings when it comes to those chemicals. >> i always sort of brag about new york city has some of the cleanest tap water, best drinking water around, right. i think that's true. is it true. how do people know where they live if this is happening to them and what's being done to address it? >> one thing i should point out about these chemicals is that you can't see them. you can't taste them. you can't smell them. so you would not know unless

it's tested. it's not like the water tastes funny. the public utilities are trying to address this to try to remove as much pfas. you have increased regulation. there are thousands of these chemicals out there but probably a dozen considered the most problematic. the epa has sort of focused on that. it's challenging. and again because they are forever chemicals, even if they stopped completely today, it probably would be a generation or sore before you could get rid of them. it's challenging unless you are testing it. >> a generation? >> yeah. that seems like they are almost everywhere. thanks so much. president bideading to south carolina today where he plans to tout his record on the economy. we are going to be joined by the co-chair of biden's re-election campaign south carolina congressman jim clyburn. thatat's ahead.

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♪ it is the top of the hour. 8:00 a.m. here on the east coast. 5:00 a.m. out west. good morning, everyone. happy to have victor, my friend, by my side. >> thank you. >> appreciate it. the fate of russia's mercenary leader yevgeny prigozhin in serious question this morning. russian police have raided his home and the president of belarus says that prigozhin is in russia and not an exile in bell sflus looking live at the federal courthouse in miami. just a few hours from now donald