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where is prigozhin? the world thought that the question was answered last week, but now the world is looking with intrigue once again. the russian president is asked once again. >> and walt nauta is set before a federal judge again on charges that he helped to conceal secret files and then lied about it, and we have more on the search before mar-a-lago. and now, two charges against ghost gun manufacturers. we have more as the news is coming into cnn "news central." this morning, the kremlin is refusing to say whether the man
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responsible for staging a rebellion against russia is in russia, yet the president of belarus actually won't say whether he is in st. petersburg, russia, and yet it is that same president who said in the days after the rebellion that he was in belarusbelarus. though it is unclear where the wagner leader is, it looks like they have launched a classic smear campaign against him, they have launched a raid of his home and office. there are some images of what they say of the things they say they found in his office, and multiple passports and a cupboard of wigs and multiple aliases of those passports and
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other reports coming there. >> reporter: well, we were invited here in the marble palace in minsk for one of the press conferences of the dramatic events unfolding in the last couple of week, and of course, the main interest was the whereabouts of wagner, the mercenary group leader, and i had a chance to ask alexander lukashenko about that man who staged an uprising in russia just last month. >> reporter: can you provide us with the whereabouts of evyevge prigoshin and whether he is in belarus or not? >> well, he is moscow or
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elsewhere, but he is not in the territory of belarus now. >> reporter: that is stunning news, because the leader of the wagner group is said to be here, but the deal on the table has not been finally agreed yet. meanwhile on the russian television, we have been seeing the extraordinary images of one of his houses in st. petersburg where the police have raided and they have seized gold bars and passports and some with false names with his photographs and wigs which could obviously be used as a disguise and weapons as well. it all implies that russia is sort of moving to discredit the wagner leader possibly ahead of an arrest, and that has not been confirmed, but they are saying that they are not commenting on
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it, but clearly the deal for wagner and the leader to be exiled in belarus is being negotiated, and that could end badly for evyevgeny prigoshin. >> that is extraordinary. >> and not the least of some of the grandeur that lukashenko wants to project there. and really, where prigozhin is such a question. and at the center of the peace, william taylor, the ambassador to russia, and if yevgeny prigoshin is somehow allowed to go to st. petersburg, why? how would that be allowed? >> john, it is a great question. st. petersburg is his home, and
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where he came from and where putin came from and where the wagner headquarters are, and you are showing the raids on the headquarters and we don't know why he is there. the real issue though is the problem for putin. here is a man, prigozhin, who led a mutiny and killed russian soldiers and attacking up the m-4 toward moscow, and then all of the sudden, he is given amnesty, and he is supposed to go to belarus, and he is not in belarus, and the deal that got him off of the hook is under -- well, the other interesting thing, john, the prigozhin's deputy or the accomplice is a russian general who has not been seen nor heard from in a week. >> you say that prigozhin is a problem for vladimir putin. we know what vladimir putin does with problems.
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so, if he is still alive, why is yevgeny prigoshin still alive? >> because prigozhin has some following, and maybe among some russian people, because he is a populist, and prigozhin has taken the side of the little man, of the people that are recruited to the army and sent to their death in ukraine, and prigozhin has been seen to cast doubt, and strong doubts on why pewten sent these soldiers into ukraine, and prigozhin seems to have some following into the russian military. and his accomplice who has not heard from or seen in the army, and he was supportive to putin,
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and so he has a problem. >> what power does prigozhin apparently still have? >> well, and parentally the forces of some 150,000 or so well trained forces. we don't know where they are. they were given the choice of retiring, joining the russian military or going to belarus, and it is not clear where they are, and they may still be there with prigozhin, and we don't know. that is why again, putin must be concerned about where prigozhin and wagner is. >> ambassador, you been in, around or with your eye on russia, and vladimir putin for some time, and longer than most of us, and have you ever seen him behave like this? what is the current behavior telling you? >> let me be clear, john, i'm not an expert on putin, and far
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better experts on vladimir putin, but you are right, this is unusual, and he panicked at some point over last weekend, and he was angry and talking about crushing prigozhin and wagner, and at the end of the day spent in st. petersburg he had an agreement with lukashenko. this is not a position of strength, and he is cracking down, and now he does not know who is loyal to him. this is not usual, john. this is not the projection that putin wants us to see, but it is a weaker autocrat than we had thought. >> what evidence have you seen so far that ukraine has been able to exploit this period of uncertainty or maybe weakness for putin? >> well, the one thing that has happened in ukraine is that the
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morale is higher. when the ukrainians were watching this play out with prigozhin and wagner and putin and the mutiny, the ukrainians were amused. they were very interested to see that their enemy, and clearly russia is the enemy is in disarray, and the chain of command, the military chain of command was fractured and a mutiny. that is a big morale boost for the ukranians. >> and often morale can be decisive in a battle like this. ambassador bill taylor, thank you so much for coming on, and trying to understand this even while so much is opaque. and will levine said that his city has experienced the most deadly attack overnight in ukraine. russia attacked an apartment building killing five people,
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and injuring dozens more. right now, hundred of rescue crews are on scene searching for people who may be buried alive in the ruble. we are learning that a 95-year-old world war ii survivor has been killed in that attack. we go to ben wedeman whoo is in ukraine there for us. can you tell us what is happening there? >> well, the ukrainians are used to el dooing with the catastrophe, but lviv is one of the most peaceful, calmest corners of ukraine. it is very close to the polish border, and many people have fled from the east for instance and taken refuge in that area. and so it is a city in shock. we understand that the strike took place at 2:30 a.m. when everybody was asleep in that
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area. it was struck by a russian caliber missile which is a hypersonic missile that carries more than 1,000 pounds of high explosives. it is very accurate, and it flies so fast, it is difficult for the air defenses to take it down. now, also, we have learned that in lviv ten bomb shelters had been locked shut perhaps because nobody expected that lviv would be struck in this matter. and now, the local authorities now in addition to being busy to clearing the rubble and looking for survivors is investigate why that was done and why people could not take shelter when they desperately needed it. sara? >> thank you for the look at why people went to lviv to try to get away from the bombing, and here they are, and people are
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just devastated by this, because it was supposed to be more of a safe haven. ben wedeman, thank you to you and your team there reporting on this. kate. and the brigade surrounding the soldiers in bakhmut, and now they are prisoner ps s of war. and now, a cargo ship, and we will look into what happened there. and also, what happened with ththe classified documents befo they reached mar-a-lago. we all need fiber for our digestive health, but less than 10% of us get enough each day.
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we are standing by to see donald trump's close aid e and co-defendant arrive at a courthouse to answer to helping trump hide documents. he is expected to plea not guilty to hide documents. there is new video that shows nauta as prosecutors saw multiple angles of a person moving boxes in and out of a basement storage closet. katelyn polantz is following this, and remind us of what happened in court and every angle here. >> expect walt nauta to be in
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court today, and after two false starts. two times before he was in court, and not able to enter a plea, and actually once he could not get to court, because of a plane issue, and he will be in there today, and able to enter the plea, because he is going to have a lawyer from florida there joining the legal team for the first time, and person who is going to assist in the other, and have the other lawyers around him to take him to trial, and something that both he and donald trump, the co-defendant, they want to do. and he and donald trump, the co-defendant, this is not accused of the same documents that trump is accused of takes, but he is facing heavy channels of obstruction, and then lying in an interview, because allegedly walt nauta moved boxes
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at donaltrp's direction, and at least five times over the course ost summer while the federal investigatorwere looking at them. and a total of 64 boxes were moved out of a storage room, and 30 of boxes were brought back into the storage room so that the fbi was able to find them there when they got a court-authorized search. so, a lot of things that we are going to be look at, but this hearing is going to be short and sweet. >> we did get our first look at some of the evidence that was part of the original affidavit in the search warrant that sort of deals with nauta, katelyn. >> yes, the justin department released a version of a document they had, and it also has a lot of redactions in it, but it is a document they presented to the court last august to go to
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mar-a-lago to go to have a number of warrants at that time, but it is not detail that they have seen in the indictment, and it is very much tracks what is charged, and what walt nauta is accused of doing when he was indicted last month, but this document from last august, it is highlighting how the justice department had video of him apparently going in and out of may 30 four days after witness 5, who we believe it is walt nauta, going in after the boxes that were the subject of the search, was observed entering an anteroom with five boxes in it, and that is something that the justice department had, and they had photos of boxes stacked up in the storage room at that time even before they went in to search for documents to pull out what they needed.
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john? >> katelyn polantz, thank you. we will keep an eye there on that courthouse. and now, good to have you here, and katelyn laying out perfectly the state of play, and thank you for joining us. we know this appearance could be quick and short one, but he was in court twice before and he could not enter a plea, and because he did not have a florida attorney, and you say this is not normal, and hold on with this, because you will be watching this, karen, because we are watching live pictures in the scrum of walt nauta entering the courthouse, and once the camera steadies, we will watch it together. that is him in the navy blue suit on the right. and probably walking with his attorney, and we will get the back of him as he is entering the courthouse right now in
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miami. so now we have walt nauta entering twice before, and couldn't enter a plea, because he did not have a florida attorney, and you say it is not normal that the early appearance would drag on so long, and what is going on here? >> well, i think that he has to get any lawyer that he hires approved through donald trump. so, that is part of issue that donald trump has to approve, and they are linked together,nd they are seen together, and going out to dinner together, and have philly cheesesteak together, and donald trump is making sure that walt nauta is staying by his side and does not flip on him, because he has a lot of evidence against donald trump here. >> that is what i wanted to ask you, because as a prosecutor, what would, and how would you approach walt nauta given what we know about him, the closeness with donald trump, in order to
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get him to cooperate in the case against donald trump, and he could not be closer to the former president, and eating chees cheesesteak, and they very just seen in philadelphia traveling together. >> there is such a disparity between the two, because donald trump is so much more powerful and clearly direct walt nauta to clear the documents out of the storage room before the fbi search, and so he is just donald trump's pawn here, and so there is an opportunity for him, i think, to testify truthfully and tell everybody what exactly donald trump told him to do and not do. so, there is an opportunity if he goes in, and look, he has already lied to the fbi, and that is in the indictment, and so you to live with that, because when you testify on the stand, and swear to tell the
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truth, and anyone who would say to him, how do we know that you are telling the truth now. >> and how do we know that you are telling truth now. >> and so even before asking to search the property, and getting the warrant, and the new moving of the boxes, and nauta lied to them, and do you think that the case against walt nauta is a straight forward one? >> yes, it is. he is on video taking 64 boxes out, and bringing back 25 or 30 right before the search warrant, and that is what was revealed yesterday, and that we didn't know before, and it is straight forward, yes. >> and so, trump controlled entities is footing the bill for his defense, and that is what you are saying is how they are
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connected and how does that complicate what is happening here. >> the judge is going to make sure there is no conflict of interest, right? this is standard, and that is what the lawyer is doing is looking out for walt nauta's interest, and his alone, and he has to make sure that he agrees to that. >> so, we will see the next step in the process as we saw walt nauta entering in the courthouse for the first time today. sara? the university of i.d. syd doing forward to demolish the house, and why some of the parents of the murdered children want them to hold off. and what the university of philadelphia is trying to do to stop the proliferation of ghost
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daughter when he was killed. he was set to walk his daughter down the aisle this weekend. ra shawn was set to go for a run at the corner store when he came face-to-face with the shooter, and he was 22 years old. and joseph's body was found in a home tuesday morning when his twin sister said that he was a talented artist with a great sense of humor, and the other victims were 15 and 29 years old. in other investigations, the officers said that the shooter planned the shooting rampage, and he was suffering from mental disorders and when the officer searched his home they found a handwritten will, and handguns and life rounds, and this is pointing them to the conclusion that this is all premeditated.
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>> we know exactly who did it, and all indications that he did it alone, and in terms of the act, itself, we see all kinds of indications of premeditations, and the weapons that he brought, and the clothing that he was wearing and that sort, but in issuesf psychological state, and motivation, and intent, and that he obviously planned this -- >> the suspect was arraigned on murder channels yesterday. at the time of the arrest, the police say that the weapons were ar-style weapon and handgun and both were ghost guns. a ghost gun is a weapon without markings, and ghost guns in philadelphia have increased 300%, and now the city of philadelphia is suing two of the largest suppliers of the ghost guns. joining me now to discuss this is the former deputy drek or the of the fbi andrew mccabe.
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do you think that the city's lawsuit could have a real impact of trying to get the ghost guns off of the streets? >> well, sara, we don't know yet, but i think that it is an admirable steps, and one of the things that mayors of major cities can do, because we have not addressed it on a federal level. and just for the viewers, ghost guns are not serialized, but they are sold as a kit of all of the necessary parts to make a gun, and it comes to your house as a kit, and anybody can turn those parts into a fully functioning lethal firearm, and it has no serial numbers and it cannot be traced. in philadelphia, they seized five of them in the commission of crime, and last year, there with somewhere around 590, and
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the sale of these kits have gone through the roof. and city mayors have to do something to limit the guns going into the hands of those who cannot lawfully possess them, and the lawsuit is one step in that direction. >> and would you say that the ghost guns are going to commit any illegal act, because they are not traceable. >> that is absolutely right. they are perfect for people who the law specifically prohibits from owning or possessing firearms, because there is no part of the law that you are subjected to in order to buy a kit over the internet. so they are designed and specifically marketed to pem who cannot pass the federal firearms background systems process. so this is a literally a item
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marketed to evade the law, and evade normal handgun safety regulations that we all know and accept as part of the 2nd amendment exercise in this country. this is designed to evade that reg regimen, and they should be stopped. >> and i wanted to ask you about the fatal shooting in philadelphia where five people were killed and according to the police he said this he was trying to quote clean up the neighborhood. what does this tell you about his mentality? >> well, sara, we have sadly seen this many, many times in the last few years. most mass shooters share some combination of these similar issues. struggles with mental health, and deep-seeded grievances of populations here, and this man made all kinds of aims against
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crime on the streets, and this is a person who could not purchase a firearm, and yet, he is posting how joe biden is trying to get rid of his access to own firearms, but these mental illnesses are sometimes the beliefs that drive a mass shooter to believe that mass violence is the only option for them, and that is what seems what happened in this case, and we will find out more as the case goes forward, but this is a common theme here. >> and he talks about the postings of the guns and loss of freedoms, and does it tell you that he was looking at the social media, and helped to propel him forward or something that you see that the investigator would delve into the see if he was radicalized as
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well? >> well, the social media footprint is one of the first things that investigators go to, because it is a look into the radicalization, and what their motivations may have been, and if they are connected to any of the like-minded individuals. and also, to this point, we try to learn something from that process, and we will try to learn more from the investigation, and this guy is all of the hall marks of the typical mass shooter, and posting frequently on social media, and lot to work with there. >> an andrew mccabe, it is good to see you, and unfortunately under these circumstances. john? >> two new jersey firefighters were killed overnight while trying to put out the flames of a cargo ship, and the two were trapped inside of the trip. no word on the cause of the fire, and the names have not been released. the home of four university of idaho college students were
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fighting for russia on the front lines. here is ben wedeman. >> reporter: no longer on the front lines and recalling how he ended up a prisoner of war. back in russia, he was back behind bars for the third time for drugs. when they put me in prison, i heard that they were recruiting and serve six months, and they will pardon you. so i signed up with storm z, a group of convicts attached to the defense ministry. after two weeks of basic training, he was shipped off to the front lines near bakhmut. after day of intense shelling, and no food and rainwater to drink, he heard ukrainian troops outside of his foxhole. he assumed they would execute him. i thought that was the end, he
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recalls, and i put the rifle to single shot mode, and i thought that i would shoot myself, but i couldn't. this video shot by the third assaultbry cade shows the intense moments when anton and his commander surrendered, and he said that they said, russians, we don't shoot soldiers. they surrendered and two of the soldiers were in the room for the interviews, and two of the soldiers will be sent to ukraine prisons, and they were not under duress and they said that time
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in the trenches were scarce. we did not have food, and we didn't have pain medicine, because his commander took their painkillers and shouted nonsensical orders. and his commander was going to have one one tour and went home, but he had a choice to go back or back to prison. and he went banck and all of th illusions were shattered. he said it was so different from of the. i felt fear and pain from my
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commanders. a law passed in russia imposes sentences of 3 to 10 years for soldiers who surrender voluntarily, and so if he is involved in a prisoner swap, he will end up in prison again. >> incredible reporting from ben wedeman. and now, we are told that 15 are dead and others missing after flooding in southwest china, and the region is battered by flooding for days now, and according to state media, 85,000 people have been displaced. at least 26 people dead and 34 people injured after a bus fell into a ravine in oaxaca, mexico. authorities say that the bus fell 60 feet and the cause of the crash is under
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day ever on earth, and at least since the records have been kept, and this is long enough. in death valley, the park rangers said that a 65-year-old man died inside of his car after a flat tire when temperatures reached 165 degrees. and rebcord temperatures in el paso, texas, where there were triple digits. and we have just learned that the month of june was the hottest on record by a huge margin. cnn chief climate correspondent bill weir is joining us. a hot june, bill. very hot. >> very hot. and you know, we tend to talk about the weather in terms of the daily events or the monthly events, but if you are looking at the trend line, 9 of the 10 hottest junes recorded were in the last ten year, and we set the all-time record, and this is the near surface pandemic for
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the whole planet, and 110 celsius monday, and then broken on tuesday and then tied wednesday. and you say that is not that dramatic, but it is including the half of the planet that is in winter. and that includes antarctica including the part that absorbs the dark blue heat more. the scariest unit of measurement that i have come across in my latest years is hiroshimas per second, and that is the hiroshimas per second, and think of oppenheimer hitting the planet every second, and now it is 10 per second. a few years ago it was five per
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second, but now it is up to 10. that is in the ocean, and we don't taste it on the land, and it is mostly in the oceans, but now we are starting to feel it. >> it is terrifying when you say hiroshimas per second, and the fact that it is doubling puts it in perspective. kate? >> in a few minutes, the man accused of helping donald trump hide documents that he is going to prepare his p plea, and we wl take you there in a moment. $10,000. somebody would ask her something
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