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recognizing the january six investigation. renewed focus by jack smith's investigators on a 2020 oval office meeting where trump allies allegedly skimmed what the former president about seizing voting machines and overturning the election. also tonight, where's prigozhin? no word from the wagner mercenary leader supposedly ex out to belarus for leading a mutiny against the kremlin. as he returned to the motherland? and what will vladimir putin due to him there? and marjorie taylor greene, is she too much, even pretty conservative freedom caucus. a report that she may have been boarded up by her fellow republicans. we begin tonight with the breaking news, what multiple sources are telling cnn about that turbulent december 18th 2020 oval office meeting, involving the former president on the disgraced general michael flynn, lawyer sydney powell and former dot com ceo. our kaitlan collins is part of the reporting team that has the exclusive. she joins me here. what have you learned? >> this is essentially something that has been of continued interest to jack smith and has been a renewed one, based on what we're

hearing, which is that he and his team are asking witnesses commit before either his team or the grand jury about this meeting. there were a lot of chaotic meetings and the trump white house. this one was described is probably the most chaotic, the most unhinged, and it happened about six weeks after trump lost the election. it was an oval office meeting where the advisers from outside the white house were essential going off against the actual attorneys inside the white house about this plan for him to seize voting machines with the military, basically to go back and recount the votes in the state, redo the votes and the states that he had lost. and jack smith is asking people about this, his team is. they've been asking witnesses months ago about it but also asking people recently about it, including rudy giuliani, who we learned one before his team for a voluntary shutdown last month. i am told it was back to back, two days, about eight hours or so. he was asked about several topics but also asked about the meeting, so it does signal that jack smith's team, we don't know to which extent, is still interested in the meeting.

>> and who is it that they are focusing on, the participants in the meeting? rudy giuliani, obviously? >> rudy giuliani was somebody that was there. he was called into the meeting after it was underway. sydney powell, the attorney that you saw at the press conferences with rudy in the aftermath of that. also patrick byrne, the former ceo for stock.com, and mike flynn, the former national security advisor. they were the people who got into the oval office for the meeting, and then you saw the trump attorneys and white house attorneys come in to talk about this, and it was essentially this insane meeting. people were yelling, people were screaming. >> there was testimony at the january 6th hearings about the meetings. >> yes, eric herschmann is probably depressant most color fully described it and it was essentially talking about how nuts it was. i think what you heard from the attorneys who worked for the white house is that there were so frustrated about the idea, that they were pushing something that was one of the most desperate attempt that we saw and that whole saga to try to hold on to power, the idea

of seizing voting machines, using the united states military so that trump could go back into the states that he lost. this was the idea being pushed to him. he was obviously present for this, watching it all play out. rudy giuliani testified, at one point, trump and the white house team went upstairs to the residents area. sydney powell and a crew went to the roosevelt room. the state and the cabinet room by himself, and he is someone who has been asked about it, as have other witnesses, we are told. >> what have any idea outside advisers commented on? >> they are not commentating. a lot of them are not talking to the special counsel's team, which as legal experts would say, that is likely worrisome for them. we do know that sydney powell and michael flynn spoke to the january six congressional committee. mike flynn was pleading the fifth. sydney powell did talk. they have not spoken to jack smith's team that were aware of. that could signal that they are potentially targets. >> i want to bring in senior legal analyst elie honig with us here. we mentioned it just now, the

january 6th meeting. i want to play some of what the white house officials have said about that meeting when they were questioned by the january six committee. let's watch. >> i saw sydney powell sitting there. i was not happy to see the people in the oval office. >> saying? what >> again, i don't think they were providing -- first of all, the overstock person, i've never met him, i did not know if we got was. i think the first thing i did, i walked in, looked at him and said, who are you? and he told me. i don't think any of these people were providing the president with good advice. the three at them were forcefully attacking me. derek, and we were pushing back for asking lots of questions, as a general matter.

where is the evidence? >> i mean, if it was sitting in his chair, i would've fired them all that night and had them escorted out of the building. >> i think you got to the point where the screaming was completely, completely out there. you got people walking in late at night, it's been a long day, and what they were proposing, i thought was nuts. >> i am going to categorically described it as you guys are not tough enough, or maybe i put it another way, you are a bunch of policies. excuse the expression, but i am almost certain that the word was used. >> i mean, it's fascinating to kind of revisit the crazy town when we heard that the first time, it seems nuts. it seems even not here now hearing it altogether. >> it really does. a couple of things that i get out at the reporting. first of all, this tells me that jack smith is taking the

broad view that he is not just focusing on the submission of those forged elector documents, not just focused on the speech. he's looking at the big picture here. looking at the scheme and depending on the proof, that can give you a predicate to bring in a patrol fraud or even conspiracy charges, if you can connect the dots. the other thing is, in order to noah happened and that room as a prosecutor, you had to get in the room, and we know that a lot of people that we saw in that montage have spoken with the doj, and it tells us that the doj has picked up on the work or the january six committee and intends to use the folks as witnesses. >> caitlin, if rudy giuliani spoke for today's, eight hour long days or so, that sounds like he is saying more than just, i plead the fifth, or we don't know? >> we don't know. >> what he said there on tape seems pretty damning, right there. >> we should also note that he was not required to go, and that was a voluntary system we are told by one of his spokespeople. that was something that he clearly thought was a good idea for him to go in.

i don't think people voluntarily go into plead the fifth. the assumption would beat that he was asked about multiple topics, we know including this. we don't know the extent to what he said. we asked's attorney robert costello to comment on this. he declined, as the attorneys for sydney powell, mike flynn. i do think it raises a question because rudy giuliani was a witness to everything that happened and that meeting that was so chaotic, but i also think to l.a.'s point, as everyone plays the guessing game of what is going to happen with the culmination of this investigation, because it does appear that we're nearing the end of it. we don't know that. we don't know who could be charged ultimately, if anyone. a lot of the focus recently has been on this fake elector scheme. this would not be about the. this would be about the efforts of the sydney powell, the john eastman's, patrick burns, mike flynn's, welty officials around for other issues, and to what they were doing, not just the fake electors scheme. >> elie, it would not all just be one piece, one giant case? >> this is a huge decision that

the prosecutors have to make. first of all, who do we charge? second of all, are we going to charge everyone to get there in one indictment? there is no limit. you can charge 30 people together or break it up into smaller chunks. finally, what level of perspective we take on the case as a whole. are we going to go for the more discreet tangible items, for example, they submitted these false forms to the archives, the for select their forms, or are we going to take a broader, global view and charge this as a wide ranging conspiracy. the advantage of a broad is that you get the put the evidence in front of a jury and explain the whole thing to them, but the advantage of going specific is that you get to keep it concise to the point and more easily digestible. these are questions the prosecutors wrestle with in every case. >> stay with us. i want to bring in cnn's carla suarez was -- alleged documents coconspirator. what not to it was a rain today. not there was the guy recorded on the surrounds video repeatedly moving boxes around mar-a-lago. carl's, what happened in court today? >> anderson, wild nada, an aide

to former president trump pleaded not guilty to several counts related to the mishandling of classified documents at mar-a-lago. including several obstruction and concealment related charges. now, his arraignment here in miami it lasted just a few minutes and he asked for a jury trial. anderson, the 40-year-old, he did not say a single word as a lefty federal chorus. >> what do we know about his new attorney that was one of the issues. he didn't have a florida-based attorney. >> that is exactly right. he wasn't able to have this arraignment because he was having trouble finding a florida-based attorney. but nauta did at a new lawyer to his defense team. i former public defender who has handled cases in south florida. she was admitted to the florida bar back in 2013, according to the new york times, she has limited experience with the federal court. the times reports that her name doesn't appear at all and pacer. that is the nationwide database of federal cases. but she has had several local

cases. that is where judge aileen cannon who is overseeing mr. trump's prosecution is based. that is where the former presidents trial, with nauta may eventually be held. sasha dadan has been active and republican politics in recent years. she ran for the florida house and 2018 and she lost, anderson. >> appreciate, it thank you very much. elie, at what point, anybody facing a prosecution like this, have to determine, and and a legit coconspirator has to determine, when their interests no longer align with their codefendant. i don't know, it doesn't seem like mr. nauta has reached a point. >> yes, at this point, their interests are aligned. this could go one of two ways. he could flip, there is no indication he would flip, the

people to flip late in the proceedings. as late as sometimes as perhaps the eight of trial. sometimes defendants join together and form a joint defense agreement. it is actually quite comment. that means we are going to a lot of, so we are going to share our attorney-client privilege, we are going to for my team. there is a separate question about will they request to be tried together, at the same time, or separately, which is a really important strategic decision that ultimately parties may argue about, the prosecutors usually want to try everyone together. the defendants sometimes want separately. that is going to be up to the judge. judge cannon. different just wrote different ways. prosecutors, they want to be able to tell the whole story, they want to mitigate. it walt nauta may be afraid of sitting at the trial table with trump, but then i want to sit together if they can catch a sympathetic juror. >> it is interesting to me, that someone would remain loyal to someone, who if they look att this with any actual glasses, not rose colored glasses, i would see the person they are pledging allegiance to has no allegiance to them and wood for him under the bus and a second. >> we have seen how other attorneys have handled this. we were just talking, michael cohen. a very different situation.

obviously, he pleaded guilty. he went to prison. he is someone who trump once predicted hit never flip on him. and he, in turn, did. with walt nauta, i was talking to people who worked in the white house with walt nauta recently. i was asking about that very idea. but, i do think there is a sense of loyalty and that walt nauta was a valet, someone who goes and fetches coats and drinks and whatever for trump when he was an office. trump took him to mar-a-lago. he gave him this job. he is kept and very close by his side. he is with him almost anytime he travels. he is also paying his legal fees, which i think is every critical thing through this super pac which is also paying trump's legal face. i think we -- i've asked people, will he flip? they argue the opposite. there is no reason for him to do so because he has this boss right now who is paying his legal fees and is the former president of the usa. >> elie, we know prosecutors are pushing for a december trial.

how likely is that? >> i think it is on the outer realm of doable. keep in mind, they lost a month trying to get walt nauta arraigned. it took three times. that is a valuable time they lost. december is five months right now. a safe way to do this at federal trial is to build in a year from and on to trial. it will be a man rush to get it in five months. keep in mind, there are classified documents, so there is a law about special procedures you have to follow. donald trump is going to have motions. he is from the town of the search warrant they did at mar-a-lago, he is going to try to get the attorney client communications thrown out. so there is a lot that has to be litigated. i think you are going to need everyone to be pushing in this interaction, i'm not sure trump's team will be pushing for an early trial. >> elie honig, kaitlan collins, thank you very much. kaitlan will be pot at the top at the hour, entered news program sources starts next week. graduations, kaitlan. coming up, the mystery surrounding yevgeny prigozhin, the mercenary leader that led the field rebellion against the

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>> ever since he gave up the meet me he and his wagner group mercenaries lit against the kremlin, it was what they

believe that yevgeny prigozhin and perhaps his troops had to camps to belarus. the president of belarus, lukashenko, said he had arrived in the country but they have made no sign of him since last month. today, lukashenko told us where heathens prigozhin is and where he knows he's not. moscow has televised it right on prigozhin's properties and has shut off what they claim are items from his mansion, including gold bars and passports and wigs. cnn's matthew chance has more. >> a rare meeting with the belarusian leader and an extraordinary revelation. [speaking non-english] >> as far as i'm in front eyes off this morning, the wagner fighters are now stationed in the regular camps where they go for rotation and to rest and recover from the front lines. in terms of yevgeny prigozhin, here is in st. petersburg. later this morning, he will travel to moscow or elsewhere. but he is not on the territory of belarus now. [crowd chanting] >> it wasn't meant to be this way. lukashenko's deal to allow prigozhin into belarus was healthy kremlin explained whack

north armed uprising last month that had been brought to an early end. it was even talk of prigozhin arriving in belarus and of the charges against him being dropped. that now appears and out. so they offer you extended two wagner and two yevgeny prigozhin has not been taken up? they are not in your country? [speaking non-english] >> translator: not yet. this will depend on the decision made by the russian government and wagner pmc. if the deem necessary to locate a certain number of fighters and belarus, and i will keep my promise. for >> but the kremlin may have other plans. russian state tv has for days been painting progression as a traitor and a criminal. casting these new images of a raid on his st. petersburg property. they are seizing weapons, cash,

and gold. even weeks for disguise and multiple passports under aliases. the kremlin told cnn, they want to comment on where prigozhin is or whether new charges may be filed against him. but lukashenko raised the disturbing possibility of prigozhin being assassinated before insisting the kremlin would never do that. [speaking non-english] >> translator: what will happen to progression next? well, in life, anything can happen. but if you think that putin is so malicious and village of he will do anything -- he will do it tomorrow? no, this won't happen. >> reporter: but clearly, the fate of wagner and its leader is now in the question. just last week, the satellite images appear to show a military base in belarus being prepared for a possible influx of fighters. lukashenko may now, himself, have got cold feet. is part of this you rethinking the wisdom of inviting a battle

hardened rebellious mercenary group into your country? are you concerned that that would have to stabilized belarus? i mean, the russians thought it was safe to have him but they were wrong. [speaking non-english] >> translator: this is not a situation where obvious living wagner a helping hand. this was reached in a process of negotiation. you know what was at stake. i made this decision at that time and i would stick to it. but i don't think that would rise up and turn his gun against belarusian state. >> reporter: but, for belarus. wagner's absence might yet be a blessing in disguise. >> matthew chance joins us now from belarus. matthew, kind of extraordinary to see you talk with the lukashenko and him, appearing to be quite candid on a whole range of topics. he wouldn't ordinarily expect to hear him talking about that.

is it clear where lukashenko and prigozhin's relationship stands right now? >> you are right. he was really candid. it is unusual to have the sort of press conference. yeah, he played down the friendship between him and prigozhin. that's surprising because the kremlin said that friendship was the reason we took guys to the deal and the first place. lukashenko said that putin was much more friendly with prigozhin than he ever was. so, really trying to put himself at some distance between himself and the wagner leader. matthew chance, appreciate it, thank you. to try to unravel some of what is going on, we are joined now by joel doherty, a global fellow of the wilson center, from the georgetown school of foreign service. also retired generals and cnn analyst mark hertling. jill, i just found, i find an amazing. what does prigozhin tell you that prigozhin is allegedly in russia and the deal that lukashenko allegedly brokerage? >> lukashenko is an old soviet style publication.

so i don't really trust him as far as i can throw him. i think that he is telling some of the truth, but there is probably a lot of the truth that is hidden behind the scenes. but i do think, it is odd, that apparently pro goshen is able to fly to moscow, fly to st. petersburg, and his men are communicating in some fashion about reconstituting. and yet, the thing that really took me off today, is the video kremlin is showing on state tv, which is absolutely excoriated, a criminal, corrupt, et cetera with monterrey, go borrows, citra. what are they trying to do? what is the kremlin trying to do? i think they are setting him up for possible prosecution, you know, for taking money from the government, which putin already hinted at ten days ago.

but they may also, as one russian observer who pretty much knows a lot said, maybe they are just allowing him to wrap up his affairs before the government begin to take him over. >> what do you think is going on? >> it is bizarre, anderson. jill summed it up really well. but what we have to remember is this guy is the head of a global terrorist organization. it isn't just his actions inside of ukraine and the recent actions in russia that have caused some conundrums for mr. putin. he has still has forces in africa, in syria, he is considered an international terrorist by the u. s. . but the thing that i thought was fascinating was that, as jill just mentioned, the besmirching of his background, today on russian tv with the purchase of his villa and the

wigs and the pictures of the guns and his house and the pictures of people he had murdered, it is just phenomenal that he has gone from a very charismatic figure that is next to putin to being continually harassed and people breaking into his core, searching his apartment, and yet not saying anything about him. i will also follow what jill is it about lukashenko. he is as much of a liar as putin. i had to laugh, when he said mr. putin would never do anything like hurt prigozhin. he probably wouldn't because it would cost such a conundrum inside of russia, because prigozhin is admired by a very large percentage of russian citizens. he is a very cosmetic figure. one other thing i would add, while we continue to look at prigozhin, one of the people of hasn't popped up was prigozhin deputy in eastern ukraine, colonel general summary can. he hasn't been seen since the uprising. this was either a senior general, so his family is concerned about him, no one is

reporting on him. this whole mess is just a typical russian nesting doll of craziness. >> i mean, yeah, jill, with prigozhin being beck and russia, could potentially the letter mirror putin be a threat to his authority? but to your point, the kremlin is really allowing russians that television to attack prigozhin, mocking him, showing these videos. that's all by design. >> rights. you know, those videos, i was thinking, they do something else. prigozhin's message to the russian people is, hey, these generals who were scrolling everything up and ukraine, they are corrupt. they lead president into this war. they are lining their pockets. it is kind of, you know, populist anti elite message. it is actually very effective. by doing this, and saying, hey,

look prigozhin is just as corrupt, you know, look at his gold bars and his everything he has. his mansion were his oldest. off he is corrupt too. so they may be trying to dim that message a little bit. and, also, i think his, let's say, his empire is so hard to unravel right now. the government wants to take it over, as the general was mentioning. they've got a lot of work to do. this cannot happen really fast. so there may be something to that. let's him kind of wrap it up and remember, putin apparently thinks that prigozhin was not necessarily trying to bring him down. he was trying to bring down the generals. so that could be another wrinkle. >> jill dorothy, general -- appreciate it. next, what a federal law official was saying about when the secret service expects to finish its investigation into cocaine left at the white house and whether they will land the suspect. that's next.

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>> tonight we have new insight into when the secret service expects to conclude its investigation of the bag of cocaine found and the white house and their efforts to identify a suspect. we will talk with a former secret service agent. where does the investigation stand right now, jeremy? >> right now, federal investigators are still going through security camera footage, visitor logs, and they are

still waiting on their dna and fingerprint analysis on that time bag of cocaine that was found inside of a kobe at the entrance to the west wing, right along west executive avenue. based on all of that, a federal law enforcement official tells me that they expect this investigation to conclude sometime early next week. it will conclude, anderson, regardless of whether or not they find a suspect. in part, that is because the same official caution me it is possible they don't get to the bottom of this. they do have security cameras, of course, but it is not clear whether those cameras were pointed at those kobe's, and this official talked about the number of people who go in and out of that entrance and it makes it that much more difficult to possibly get to the bottom of this. but they are still investigating out this hour, anderson, waiting for those lab results. >> and of the scenarios are great for the white house, it was either a staffer, they haven't ruled that out, but it was fairly someone connected to a quasi-vip tour group, or anybody who works at the white house.

how confident are officials that it wasn't a staffer? >> i asked the white house press secretary that very question. she simply wouldn't rule out the possibility that it could be a white house staffer. but of course, the white house has repeatedly been pointing out that this is an entrance used by visitors, there were tears happening at the same time, obviously that seems to be the most likely scenario at this point. as you point, out this is not an east wing tour, or a garden tour where you could get tickets through your congressional office. you usually have to know someone who works at the white house, or know someone who knows someone, and then you have to be escorted not by an intern, not by a contractor, but by a white house official when you are on the ground. so the white house today says that they are letting the secret service conduct this investigation. they also answered some of the criticism that they have faced. some of it is pretty farfetched, including from former president trump who made a series of wild conspiracy theory allegations about this bag of cocaine. the white house's response to that? they say they are sensing frustration from republicans because of the policies successes of the biden administration. it might be a stretch but it is

what they are saying. >> i appreciate it. the new developments from jonathan wackrow, a former secret service agent who is now a cnn law enforcement analyst. there are security cameras, or certainly plenty of security people watching who are coming and going. how hard is the investigation? >> it is complicated. it is complicated on a few different levels. one, you are conducting an investigation at the white house, so some of the security members are more external. they're looking at the external threats that may impact the complex. not internal issues. it is not like a regular office building where you have cameras all over the place because you don't want to record the business of the administration, especially in this location, and jeremy said, it is on the ground floor of the west wing, just outside of the situation room. you have intelligence officials that are going in and out of there. so capturing video may not be something of evidentiary value for the secret service. >> i didn't realize how many

people might have had access to that location. i would assume that this is a highly secure area. >> it is a secure area. but what i refer to it, this is the crossroads of the white house. you have people who are coming in that our military officials, you have the secret service, you have white house staff members, you have senior administrative officials, cabinet members use that entrance to come in and out. on top of all of that you also have this white house tour that is a vip tour going on from friday to sunday, essentially those tourist happened when the business of the west wing really concludes for the day, or is off for the weekend. so there's a lot of people. >> you have the secret service, they say they expect to conclude this by early next week. and that regardless of whether or not a suspect is actually identified, doesn't make sense to you? >> it does make sense. here is why, there's only so much you can do with this type of investigation. you can't boil the ocean. you have to either use the forensics, the fingerprints, dna evidence that may or may not be on the bag, so that may point to a potential suspect because this is a criminal matter, or you have to look at items of video evidence. again, that is a bit more

complicated, because you are predominantly going to get the view from outside the building, you will not get into this very specific area. so there's only a few investigative cameras. >> are there any cameras on these puppies? if somebody could bring in a dime bag of cocaine does that raise questions about what else somebody could bring into the white house? >> it raises questions and i have answers for that. it is natural to associate a bag of drugs with anthrax or write some, the people, that is commonality. the way that the secret service looks at it is there are two different demands, one is a criminal matter, the other is a threat and from a threat perspective it is threat management, and the secret service does not very well. they have processes in place to identify chemical, biological, and radiological elements that are brought to the white house. there are sensors all over the place, active and passive, that are used as part of the protective program at the white

house. i don't want to get into too much about how they do it, but let's just say they are there. from a criminal standpoint, the secret service is not screening for drugs. no, i think regardless of whether or not there is somebody who is identified or, not i think that some of the protocols will change on how the physical screening of individuals takes place upon coming into the complex. again, this is scheduled to drug, it is illegal to have, it is a criminal matter, a crime was committed on the property, secret service has to address that, and they have to put protocols in place to make sure it doesn't happen again. >> all right, jonathan, appreciate it. thank you very much. what could cause the most conservative caucus in congress to expel one of his most prominent maggot members. we will discuss how congresswoman, marjorie taylor greene, went too far even for the house freedom caucus. we will be right back. new pronamel active shield actively shields the enamel to defend against erosion and cavities. i think that this product is a gamechanger for my patients- it really works. listen up, you dogs with allergic itch! today's talking lesson is just one word: apoquel.

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>> we learned today that before the house went on brick last month, the florida caucus voted to remove one of its members. the first time this ever happened. georgia congresswoman marjorie taylor greene is the member voted on. unclear if the vote is all there is and she is officially out. but a caucus member today told cnn, quote, as far as i know, that the way it is. congressman andy harris didn't list all the reasons. he did say, quote, the straw that broke the camel's back, those were his words, was a confrontation greene had with another freedom caucus member, lauren boebert on the house floor. that is a video of it happening right there. this would have been on june 21st, two days before the vote. greene called boebert, forgive

me, colorful language, these are home boards, a little --. a spokesperson conferred to cnn at the time, the subject was competing articles of impeachment against president biden. congressman harris, the freedom caucus members, headed this was not the way we expect members to refer to their fellow, especially female members. today, this is how greene responded. and congress i serve northwest georgia first answer of new group in washington. my america first credentials, guided by my christian faith, are forged in steel. seared into my character. and will never change. i am joined now by cnn political director david chalian and former republican congresswoman may love. david, is it clear to you where moderate taylor green stands right now with regards to the freedom caucus, or is there more to the story? >> well, it does not seem 100 percent clear. even andy harris is talking about this today, saying he

believes that the vote means that she is no longer in the freedom caucus, will not be attending freedom caucus meetings going forward. but i think what way for congress to come back to get a final assessment at that. clearly, there was this vote, and she was ousted here, and it seems, anderson, there are lots of offensives that congress can't withstand. but when you take on your own, that seems to ruffle feathers almost more than and thing us in congress. they don't like one member sort of go after members on the floor itself. i think you're seeing that here. it comes after marjorie taylor greene was already playing political footsie with kevin mccarthy, going a little bit more establishment, if you will, and that was distancing from her from the sort of freedom caucus agenda, as well. >> congresswoman, does this make sense? of all the offensive things that margie taylor greene says, does it make sense that the final star may have been her

calling lauren boebert if he medalled on the house floor? >> i found her statement really interesting because before you joined the house freedom caucus, i was asked at one point when i first became a member to join the house freedom caucus, people like myself and john ratcliffe refused to join because you're expected to vote as a block. they ask you that, say, hey, this is what we expect from you. i did not want any of the votes of my constituents to be tied to a group of people, so it is interesting that she says that i don't want to be -- she should not have joined the house freedom caucus, if that was the case. the interesting thing is, i believe that this started when she did not stand with the house freedom caucus. she stick with the president and trying to keep and make sure that kevin mccarthy became speaker of the house. she was showing her phone to other members of congress, trying to get them to vote kevin car-t in as speaker of the house.

i am not surprised that they kicked their. out >> the former president, yes. >> did you ever think that there would be repercussions for -- i don't know if it is repercussions for her bad behavior. are these such egregious events? >> oh, gosh, of all the agree just offenses that i can think of, they play by their own rules, and she should know that if she does not play by their rules, she is going to be out. i am surprised, this is the most conservative caucus in congress and someone as far right as much a green to get kicked out, where does she go? who does she caucus would? where does she go from here? >> david, how much of an awkward fight does this put speaker mccarthy in? all you see, greene has become a key ally of his? >> yes, he's utilized his time, remember when he rolled out the midterm agenda, he had her position directly in the shop

behind it showed that he had support from the right wing that is normally causing them trouble, as mia saying, she was critical in whipping some votes on his behalf to become speaker. on the debt ceiling fight, which is probably sort of from a policy perspective, anderson, the most egregious thing she's done if you're a house freedom caucus member, which is supposed to do that ceiling fight, she was helping speaker party there, as well. does he come out now and continue to have this tension with the freedom caucus overtly taylor greene? i don't think kevin mccarthy is going to stake his standing with the comforts of her all and moderate taylor greene. >> david chalian, mila, thanks so much. if i had, a close, on the ground, look ahead as the vice president mike pence is very on the campaign trail in ohio.

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used to. >> mr. gorbachev, tear it down this wall. >> there can be no room in the leadership of the republican party for apologist for putin. there can only be room for champions of freedom. >> according to america practice is responsible for the content at this advertisement. >> kim law has been on the show following the vice president who has a long shot bid for the nomination. >> they wrote to the white house starts in iowa. >> i love you, mike. >> four former vice president mike pence, the early stretch of his race has been a job. the two mile july 4th parade in urbandale. eating the local suites in rural northwest iowa.

hearing the personal politics of local republicans. >> it's wonderful, the only way you have a chance to really know about how they feel and answer questions at your level at the community. >> a ten count the sweet for candidate pence just this week as he aims to hit all 99 counties in iowa. >> what is it that you hope to achieve by visiting the counties and doing all the parades? >> i came to the conclusion with the last few years that i am well-known, but we're not known well. we are going to be able to take our story, take our case and take our whole record, the story of our family people of iowa to great success. >> the midwest native plants to the river it on a pair and pizza. pence's preferred spot for a slice, the pizza ranch, itching with 71 locations across iowa. >> if you want to win the iowa caucus, it's a 15 person pizza ranch meeting because everyone that came here, i guarantee what they did they have in

common, there are in the caucus. >> pence national campaign chair hatched the pizza ranch strategy in 2008, as campaign manager for the republican presidential hopeful mike huckabee. who would come from behind and win the 2000 a hail caucasus. this room, believes pence's campaign, is how he true what when. >> but look for people coming out on a cold night, spending an hour and a half listening to everyone talk. the way you build your relationships are in meetings a 50, not rallies a 5000. >> in this pizza ranch median of 50 islands, some wearing their allegiance to a different republican candidate, pence takes any and all questions from voters, including one who confronted him about his role in certifying the 2020 election results on january six. >> who won the election? >> it changed the history for

this country. >> i want to tell you, with all due respect, i said before, i set when i announced, president trump was wrong about my authority that day and is still wrong. i believe it with all my heart. >> that answer only slightly -- who asked the question. >> i really do feel like he altered history. >> would you consider supporting mr. pence after listening to him today? >> i would consider it, but he has that one hiccup. >> but meeting pence did change amy klein's mind. >> i voted for mr. trump, but i've been going to all of the people that come that want to run for president, and so far, i like him dub us. . >> your opinion has changed after seeing him up close. >> yeah. [applause] >> the summer before the 2008 iowa caucus is, mike huckabee

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