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the final days of the trump presidency. the infamous gathering took place on december 18th, 2020. we know that outside advisers were there. they were pushing a series of extreme measures to allow trump to stay in law, including martial law. and you know that there was a shouting match. and now sources tell us prosecutors have taken a keen interest in that whole operation as they were overseeing the 2020 election. sara murray was part of the cnn team that broke the news, sara, what are prosecutors looking at here specifically? >> well, this was a mild meeting by the standards of the trump white house. there seems to be a renewed interest in this meeting. witnesses once again being asked about it. it's hard to overstate just how off-the-wall this meeting were. you showed some of the participants. there are some people you would expect to see in a meeting like

that chief of staff mark meadows and some people you wouldn't expect to see like the former overstock ceo p.a.t. byrne. using voting machines, like martial law, and the january 6th house select committee focused a lot on this meeting and what went down during it. let's just listen to some of the recollections to some of the folks in that oval office meeting. >> i don't think any of these people are providing the president with good advice. and so, i didn't understand how they had gotten in. >> and what they were proposing, i thought, was nuts. >> scipollone and hershman, sho nothing but contempt and disdain

of the president. >> categorically describing as you guys aren't tough enough or [ bleep ]. >> looking at a meeting when fake electors or electors were voted at the capitol. this meeting is important because we saw some of the most outlandish ideas pushing back and members are pushing back, saying, no, no, we got to let this go. >> we also know they're looking at the fake elector scheme and they're zeroing in on arizona. >> we do know, we know about a number of subpoenas related to arizona and again, this is part of the going back to the fake elector plot of broader conspiracy that prosecutors are looking at. we don't know what they're going to bring charges on, on this

issue. again, look at the time line, december 14th, when fake electors cast their fake ballots. and of course, we know they've talked to electors in other states but arizona seems to have been a focus in recent months. >> sara, thank you for the very latest on this, this is a wild meeting, maybe not surprising they're focusing on this. boris. let's get a special meaning for how this fits into the investigation. former prosecutor michael moore. michael, great to see you as always. i think the key questions for me is whether the things said in a meeting like this could be the basis for charges if they never followed through with most of them. >> yeah, i'm glad to be with all of you. really, sounds like we missed a rendition of "send in the clowns." the meeting is really about, i think, from the prosecutor's standpoint, about providing color to what was going on, and

what state of mind people were in, so, there's not inherently illegal about being creating an illegal strategy. there's nothing inherently illegal about discussing a possible option, even the things that may sound crazy to start with. but i'm guessing, the special counsel is digging into what really believed what. who was throwing that information. who really knew that the election was lost. is this way a to circumvent as a way of it being legally sustainable. that's what to me the meeting was. they're not going to exindict somebody if they thought something. they're going to use it to indict if it's the bigger scheme of this plan to overthrow the election results. that's why the meeting probably has relevance at this point. >> note tably, michael, the spel

counsel subpoenaed from two fake electors, why do you think there's this new found interest in arizona? >> yeah, i think the purpose of that is, we know based on statements made by the d.a. here in fulton county that there are likely to be charges cupping in the next few weeks from georgia. so the significance, if you're looking at this, for observers to note that special counsel may be considering this in a broader nationwide effort as opposed to maybe just the single state of georgia. so, he may well be investigating the possibility that the fake elector scheme is intertwined and the jurisdictions and the idea about efforts to put people on people, and that gives us a little bit of an insight, maybe sort of looking through a pinhole now in the case. but it tells us, he's taking this on a grander scale, i

think, than just the local state. so, for those people in georgia, i think the answer is georgia's not the law. if you're looking at it from the trump team, you're thinking, look, he's now bypassing the possibility of state charges and thinking about wrapping this up in the federal indictment. >> so, on that note, if it's a more widespread investigation, if it's sprawling out to jurisdictions on a federal level, what kind of charges do you think he might be is weighing? >> well, he could be looking at fraud on the united states. he could be looking at false statements that people made about the elections. he could be looking at efforts to overturn an election. those things, of course, always has the option of looking at conspiracy and wire and mail fraud charges as well for things maybe used to perpetrate the crime. or to advance the criminal conduct. so, i really -- i think this is

well within his purview. and i think this is the kind of thing people have been waiting to see, whether or not he looks at this as something that needed to be brought before a grand jury, because the criminal conduct was so widespread, as opposed to just isolated instances of efforts by individual actors. this tells me that he's really looking at casting a broader net. again, he does not have to indict just because he's investigating. but that does give us some insight that he's thinking about this on a much larger scale than just one phone call. just dealing with a couple of election workers. he's looking at it in a broader sense about what was going on around the country. and what efforts may have been going none concert, by individuals in the trump orbit. after the election. so, that, i think, is why i think it's important right now. >> michael moore, always great to get your perspective. great to see you.

>> good to see you. >> of course. jim. >> well, as the special counsel is clearly hard at work, donald trump is actually back on the campaign trail today. in the next hour, he will hold a rally in iowa. his biggest event in the first in the nation caucus state for this presidential cycle. trump's challengers have already spent time in the holiday campaigning, while trump stayed home. and sent out social media posts attacking prosecutors. cnn's jeff zeleny is in council bluffs, iowa. jeff, should we expect more and similar attacks like that on special counsel, investigations opponents or something different? >> reporter: well, jim, there's no doubt that former president donald trump, whenever he comes to iowa, or really any early voting state, he certainly talks about the grievances of the past. but he's been to this state that will launch the presidential nominating process early next year. he's been here several times. actually, this is not necessarily a trump rally.

it's being billed as an agricultural policy discussion. so there are actually chairs here in the room. it's a small crowd and that is by design. the former president is trying to take his message to a smaller group of people. he has held bigger rallies here in iowa, but it's a tale of two different campaigns. as you're talking about the potential of more indictments, of course, two indictments are already on the books, that is not top of mine, or even being discussed by many supporters here. if anything, it has rallied some to his side. as we spend time in iowa and spend time with other candidates as well, there's a clear split in this republican party. perhaps half of the voters want to turn the page and look for an alternative. perhaps half do not. but if that's the case, donald trump could win the campaign in a primary campaign. that is months away. for now, the former president is coming here to western iowa to

fire up his troops and try to stay as the leading candidate in the race. of course, that debate in august which he may or may not participate in is something his rivals hope to temper his enthusiasm. the people here excited to see him. he'll be here within the hour, jim. >> just quickly, as a policy for him, is the president expected to announce or discuss any agricultural proposals? >> reporter: well, look, he will talk about how his policy was good for iowa farmers. heel talk about that. he'll draw distinctions on his position with ethanol, for example, with governor ron desantis from florida. but, no, we do not expect a serious policy discussion here at all. we've seen what the former president does. he fires up his crowd and he has many supporters, even if it's just half the party, that's a lot of people, jim. >> one thing, he promising the

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a judge sentencing patrick cruises to 90 life sentences as part of a plea deal including hate crimes. the sentence comes after an emotional two days of survivors and victims' loved ones telling the killer how his crimes change third lives forever. let's go outside the courtroom, to cnn's rosa flores. rosa, the shooter had a chance to address the court. take us inside that courtroom. >> reporter: he did, he did have that opportunity and he allowed his attorney to speak for him instead. what his attorney told the open court that the shooter takes responsibility for the harm that he has caused, but, the attorney said, that this was all due to severe mental illness. now, following those remarks, federal prosecutors said, quote, we reject that. that they reject that stance that this is all about mental

illness. and what the prosecution said that the judge needed to take into account the facts of this case. and some of the quotes from the prosecution, in speaking to the danger that this individual poses in society, quote, they said this individual is a vessel of insidious violence. but all of this came after days of very emotional testimony by victims and their families. there were several days in which families and the victims and their families, were able to stand just feet from the shooter. and have conversations with him. this is the portion of the hearing that's the victim impact statements. and one thing became very clear. and that was that, yes, when this shooter came into this community, the sense of safety was shattered back in 2019, because he entered this community and exercised a rampage of hate-filled violence at that walmart here in el paso.

but one thing became very clear, as more and more of these members of this community spoke, and that was that their pride in their hispanic roots and mexican-american roots was stronger than ever. a lot of these individuals who spoke, even spoke directly to the shooter and said, you failed in your attempt to eradicate or get rid of hispanics in the state of texas or the united states. and they said, in fact, because the system fails individuals who are hispanics and blacks in this country, you're actually going to spend your life in a prison cell or in a prison filled with hispanics and blacks. now, there was an exchange with one of the families of the victim that was very notable, because a lot of these individuals spoke directly to the shooter were very triggered

by some of his body language. some of them mentioned him rolling his eyes. or nodding or fidgeting, and one exchange which includes a conversation appeared to be the closest thing to a conversation between the shooter and one of the victims' families was with dean ricard, he lost his mom margie ricard, boris, i just want to take you to this brief exchange because it really speaks to what we were seeing in the courtroom. ricard asked the shooter, do you sleep good at night? and the shooter shook his head no. then he asked, you just wanted to be a copycat? the shooter shook his head no, are you a white supremacist, he asked? the shooter shook his head no. he asked, are you sorry for what you did? and the shooter nodded his head yes, and again, the shooter did

not exercise his right for an allocution which is his right to speak before the court. his attorney did speak before the court saying he takes responsibility for his actions. boris. >> notable that he did not stand up and address the victims and loved ones of the deceased directly for himself. rosa flores, thank you for that. brianna. we're about an hour from the white house briefing where the biden administration is going to be asked more about its decision to send to ukraine a weapon that is banned by much of the world. we're talking about cluster munitions, they are canisters that carry anything from dozens to hundreds of many bomblets. ukraine and russia are actually already using them. we have a video that was taken near the beginning of the war. this is video of a cluster bomb being dropped on kharkiv last year. you can actually see one of the bomblets dropped right here, initially, not detonating. later does detonate.

that is a big part of why most countries have outlawed this type of weapon. we have retired air force colonel cedric leighton joining us now. he's a cnn military analyst. colonel, tell us about this decision and why the u.s. decides it's worth it to send these to ukraine? >> one of the big questions, the russians are using these weapons all the time in ukraine. you can see from the video, these are one of the key weapons that the russians have used, but the ukrainians have also used, they've had stockpiles of this weapon quite some time. and the key thing to remember is, because of the shortages that the ukrainians are experiencing in the munitions that they currently have, they feel they need the cluster bombs in order to prosecute their counteroffensive. >> so is this weapon really a game-changer, this weapon? >> this weapon will definitely change things tactically on the battlefield become but it may not be a game-changer in the

sense of actually being the win thing that you need in order to take everything to the next level. so, basically, what it's designed to do, of course, it's designed to go after conceconcentrate ed troop movements and areas. any information of that type. the key thing to remember, brianna, these are weapons where munitions are spread over a very large area, sometimes, 57 acres. >> but these are tough weapons because there is collateral damage. it is unavoidable and there is delay damage? >> absolutely. first of all, what it does if you're advances, if your military units are advances and you've saturated the area with munitions, your forces could be under the force of that munition when you go through that area. so you could have casualties that you inflict on yourself. the dirty battlefield, all battlefields are dirty, this is exceptionally dirty where you leave munitions, the red cross

and nato countries have banned these weapons which makes a difference. >> which brings us to the fact we're days away from the nato summit, and just taking a look at those nations that you mentioned. among the nato nations, among the 123 nations who has banned the weapons, who hasn't, of course, as you mentioned there, the u.s. not great bedfellows, right, ukraine, has not, syria, turkey, iran. how is this going to affect the u.s. relationship and ukrainian relationship with the european partner nations who say these weapons are not okay? >> yeah, it could very well impact that. and as people take a look at this and the exact weapon that is used with a low dug rate they call it could be an unacceptable

nau option. one of them fighting a war for its very survival, ukraine, so you can understand why they would want to proceed with their counteroffensive. the united states has not used these weapons since 2003, however, we maintain a stockpile. >> this is obviously very interesting and controversial. we'll be waiting for the white house briefing with more questions that the white house has beener. ed with through this. thank you, jim. another story we're following, it might have been the only spot in the u.s. that actually cooled off in june, a little bit. the job market. what that means for the economy, and also the possibility of interest rate hikes pausing. plus, a food fight over wages. why some meal delivery apps are suing the big apple.

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up as another step in the right direction. >> it's stable, it's strong, combined with a 3.6 unemployment rate which you've already noted. this is unemployment rate, 3.6 rate unemployment. the predictions were it would not fall below 4% for years, and it has fallen below that, not just this time, but we've had 17 straight months of an unemployment rate under 4%. we haven't seen that since the 1960s. >> cnn's matt egan joins us now here. matt, that's a good point, when you look at the unemployment rate as a whole, the lowest since the 1960s, the string of figures we've had since then. it's a below expectations, and it's a lot lower than where we've seen super hot growth. can you tell us where the job market stands? >> jim, rooting for spectacular growth.

these days, as we heard, the white house is be looking for sustainable job growth and that makes sense because if the numbers are too strong, that suggests that the economy is overheating, and you don't want that. too weak, it signals a recession. seems like that's what we got, 209,000 jobs added in june. if you look at that chart, you see job growth is solid but slowing down and that's what economists want to see. on the other side of that chart, during covid, it spiked and now 3.6%, that's historically low. and another encouraging development from today's report is that more americans are coming off the sidelines and re-entering the jobs market. including women. we know that covid forced millions of women out of the workforce, and now we see that the participation rate for women 25 to 54 is at a record high for

the third month in a row. and that is good news. so if you put all of this together, it does speak to goldilocks, mark zandi said on twitter, the june growth report was close to perfect, not too hot, not too cold. the thinking, jim, is that the fed will continue to raise interest rates including later this month, but hopefully, it's closer to the end. >> it's such an important window as christine romans says the trend is your friend. a lot of folks will spin the numbers. matt egan, always good to have you break it down. thanks so much. boris. still to come, high anxiety, rescuers rushing to rescue dozens of people trapped on one of the world's highest cable systems. impactful ful rescue. elon musk dressing down mark zuckerberg over his threads and

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meta's launch of its new social media platform threads has now surpassed 70 million signups in two days that's according to meta's ceo mark zuckerberg. that makes the potential twitter killer the fastest downloaded app ever. the meteoric rise has also caught the attention of twitter owner elon musk threatening to sue. lawyers have accused mark zuckerberg of stealing trade secrets and intellectual property saying meta hired

former employees. musk in response sent out a tweet saying competition is fine, cheating is not. let's get details from cnn's tech reporter brian pfund. what do we about a potential lawsuit and how is meta responding to this. >> yeah, boris, twitter is saying former employees of the company who took devices and documents with them when they left ended up being hired by meta to help develop the new app threads. now, meta is saying there's no mer meritet to the allegations but let's take a look at the letter that meta sent to mark zuckerberg. in this letter it says meta as, quote, engaged in systematic and unlawful association of trade secrets and other intellectual property. immediately after the letter came out, meta fired back saying, quote, no one on the engineering team is a former twitter employee.

that's just not a thing. at this point, we don't know who is telling the truth here. we'll just have to wait to see if this goes to court, to an actual lawsuit, then we may find out more. but it's a little too earlier to say whether or not this litigation threat has legs. but i think when i talk to legal experts, they say, if this goes to court, it's going to be really nasty. and really drawn out. and that may be what twitter wants to happen, is to create a distraction for meta here. >> yeah, all of this happening as we anticipate a potential draw with these two in the roman colosseum. brian, thank you for majoritying, brianna. popular eating apps door dash and others suing that the law takes effect next week and all three claim it does more than harm than good.

vanessa yurkevich is here. what are they arguing here? >> yeah, the three companies filed a lawsuit in new york city, over the new minimum wage law that's set to take effect next week. especially the companies are saying by having to pay their employees more, restaurants would have to incur more, restaurants would have to incur more. and these companies won't have as many delivery workers who are working for them because they wouldn't be able to afford to pay them at these new levels. let's take a look at these numbers. on july 12th, set to go into effect, delivery food workers would have to be paid $17.96 an hour, at a minimum, that's not including tips. and then by 2025, that jumps to $20. these companies would also have the option of paying iing 50 ce per minute on the time that

these drivers spend on a trip. new york city says there are 50,000 of these workers in the city. they get paid $7 an hour and many of these workers do not have health benefits. delivery has been around for decades and we've seen an ex explosion in people ordering takeout that's because many of us during the pandemic didn't want to go to restaurants so we did takeout. right now, delivery accounts for about 9% for all restaurant sales. that sounds low but that grew over the pandemic but we're still seeing higher delivery and takeout from pre-pandemic levels. brianna, the city is saying they're disappointed by this lawsuit. they believe ultimately that this law will go into effect. because in their eyes, they believe that raising wages and setting a minimum wage for these workers is ultimately in the best interest of these workers that we rely on every single day

for our food delivery. brianna. >> right now, they're very reliant on tips then, right? >> yes. yes. absolutely. tips are a big part of the deal make up the difference. that's why they want to put this law into effect. to set a minimum, not everyone is a gracious timur, brianna. >> yeah, you never know what you're going to get. vanessa yurkevich live from new york. jim. >> remember to tip your drivers. to other headlines we're watching this hour, a federal judge says former president donald trump has been deposed in a lawsuit against the doj brought by former fbi agent peter strzok. the lawsuit accuses of wrongful termination alleging that trump's political vendetta against him led to his firing. strzok oversaw the probe in russian meddling in the 2016 election. and let go after the doj revealed his text to another official criticizing trump. today marks 100 days since

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right now, d.c. police are searching for these four suspects. they were seen running away from the site of a shooting that killed a lyft driver. he was found shot inside his vehicle monday night as he finished working an extra shift. he's a 31-year-old former afghan

interpreter who escaped the taliban and immigrated with his family to the united states in 2021. a gofundme site says he was the sole provider for his wife and four children. police are offering a reward of up to $25,000 for any information leading to an arrest in his case. jim? it is hard to believe it is nearly two years since the taliban took over afghanistan. u.s. troops withdrew. for many american troops, it feels like time has stood still in terms of the trauma and horrors of the nearly two decade-long war and all the pain from that withdrawal. my next guest knows it extremely well himself. he's a combat veteran who also wrote and now stars in the play "last out," elegy of a green beret which helps veterans and their families deal with the fallout from the war and leaving it behind. also, task force pineapple was a group of veterans helping

evacuate afghan allies and veterans in the chaotic days after the u.s. withdrawal. he is joining me now, lieutenant colonel scott mahon. always good to have you. >> our condolences to nazrat's family and his wife. all of us in the community are busted up over this. >> understood. i wonder how -- you're busted up, the loss of life and, particularly, the special hearheart heartache, right, of having escaped the danger there only to find new danger here. >> yeah, it really is something that is plaguing our afghan brothers and sisters, and it is one of the reasons we're doing the play, jim. it's not just to honor the service of our veterans and our military families, but also our afghan partners. >> tell me how it stands in your view, the effort to get those afghan partners out. you know as well as i how many thousands are still waiting the chance to leave afghanistan

despite their service and despite being under genuine threat from the taliban. >> yes, it's slowed to a trickle, jim. there's still some effort to get folks out, and some are meeting success. for the most part, there is a huge backlog. >> let's talk about the play here. i watched some of the scenes from it. it's a powerful message here which i know you take to heart. for soldiers suffering, it seems you're encouraging them to leave it behind if they can. >> yeah, this story is about letting go of the pain. you know, there's so many of us, whether we is served or not, th are holding onto the pain. my service, the things with it, nearly took me out, i nearly took my own life. storytelling got me out. i decided to use storytelling to help americans understand the impact of war but simultaneously validating the service of those who lived it. so i wrote this play, "last

out: elegy of a green beret," an all veteran cast, and we traveled to 28 cities now performing it, and it is a very, very healing program of storytelling and shared experience. >> you've done a good job in light of your own experience and those you know following their service, you've spoken openly about it and without stigma, to get folks to seek the help they need. how important is that? >> oh, it's so important. that's why my wife and i founded the heros journey, where we focus on helping warriors and their families find their voice and tell their story. jim, we had 80,000 plus calls to the v.a. hotline in march alone. i mean, we're sitting on a tsunami. mental health is this moral injury as the aftghaafghanistan 9/11 war comes to a close.

they need to have their stories heard without judgment and then walk the path of healing with their neighbors. that's what this play does, what storytelling does at a community level. it's a way, frankly, for civilians to get beyond requests than -- thank you for your service and get the soldiers home. >> of course, "tracers," sponsor of your play, gary had involvement with it then. the shared experience, right, to those decades ago, soldiers who came home after a difficult war to uncertain receptions here and a whole host of issues. what is the importance of that tie? >> it's hauntingly similar, jim. you know, gary sinise, i can't say enough about him and his foundation. he watched the film version of our play on amazon prime after the afghanistan collapse, and he was so moved by it that he called me out of the blue, and we spoke. he said, "you know, this is what we did with "tracers" in post vietnam." i said, "yeah, this is the

modern day evolution to "tracers." he helped us put this on tour, sponsored it, and we are going across the country in october with him. we are going to keep going, keep pushing this show into every community that will have us. >> more power to you. i'm going to do my best to help you spread the word, and i know it's a great service to veterans like yourself and others. lieutenant colonel scott mann, thank you for joining us. >> thank you for standing up for the veterans. it means a lot. >> happy to help. boris. a major, controversial decision as the united states gets ready to send weapons banned by many countries to ukraine. we're set to hear from the white house in just moments. we're going to see what they have to say about this when "cnn news central" comes back. your record label is taking off. but so is your sound engineer. you need to hire.

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