the mcdonald's menu like the back of his hand. i guess ice cream is not really his thing. he is like a burger and fries kind of guy. >> this is dairy queen. maybe he is committed to mcdonald's. >> first, reporters need to check back to see if blizzards were actually purchased for people in the restaurant at this time. second of all, this is not as gross as that time that he offered a piece of half eaton pizza at a pizza shop in florida. i think that he might get a pass for this one. >> i saw that. even his ardent supporters are like "no thank you with the pizza." all right. abby, have a great weekend. good to see you. good evening, everyone. welcome to cnn tonight. >> we have a fantastic show for you this evening. it has been quite a week of developments in a special

council's investigation into donald trump. so what is jack smith's next move? tonight we will break down who he is talking to and what evidence he has so far. plus a disturbing new study finds out half the tap water is contaminated with so-called forever chemicals. these are dangerous synthetic compounds that are linked to cancer and other diseases chls erin brockavich is here to sound the alarm. and from a top progressive while former donald trump and ron desantis going against each other and national security officer john bolton has a warning tonight. >> the indictments don't have any impact. he has been indicted twice, it doesn't have any impact. if he gets indiagnosticed two or three more times, it doesn't make a difference. it is whether the special council can get a trial date and hold it before the republican

primary process begins. if he can't get it and this trial is delayed until after the election, i very much worry about what the outcome would be. >> okay. so let's begin with what we know tonight about the investigation. joining me now, we have cnn political correspondent murray and kincaid and watergate prosecute, ackerman. great to see you. all right. you have been reporting on all jack smith's moves. do you get the sentence that the urgency is timed up. >> it's hard to predict exact timing when it comes to the special council. what we have seen in this investigation are a lot of activities you would expect to take place near the end of it. we were talking about this december meeting with donald trump and his advisors that really went off the rails. that's something that investigators had previously asked about. and now they are sort of circling back to they are checking on it again with other witnesses. that's the kind of thing you

would expect to see at the end of an investigation. we know that they brought rudy giuliani in. they talked to him in a voluntary interview for 2 days. he is late-in the game witness. they have some limited immunity deals with folks. again, something you would expect to see later in the investigation. we also know, allison, there are a few witnesses out there they haven't talked to yet. so we are still waiting to see are there boxes out there they want to check or essentially could they be reaching the end stages, the final stages of this investigation before they announce whatever indictments they may announce. >> we learned this week jack smith, special council is focusing on this very heated oval office meeting that happened after donald trump had lost the white house. so when you look -- i don't know if you can seehis, actually, nick, i ho you can. >> i can. >> good. so all the players that at that meeting, everybody from, you know, rudy giuliani, y

see there as well as white house council. who do you think prosecutors are most interested in? >> in terms of all those people, i mean in terms of the person who can put it all together, i believe is mark meadows. he was the chief of staff. he was really the in between person between the mill ard hotel people, steve bannon, rudy giuliani, roger stone, general flynn and donald trump. as we know from cassidy hutchison's testimony, he was going to go to a meeting on january 5th at the willard hotel. but due to her kind of warning, he did it over the phone. but he knew what was going on. he was killing the messages between all the key players and donald trump. so if i had to pick one person on there that i think is the most important, he is the man. and from what we know, he has already testified in the grand

jury. >> uh-huh. >> now, i wouldn't believe that he would be testifying in the grand jury unless he had worked out some kind of a deal and he is basically coming clean on everything that he knows. >> andy, i want to ask you also about this new york times reporting tonight. and that is that tmp former chf of staff, john kelly said in a sworn statement the former president asked about having the irs and otr agencies investigate thostwo fbi officials who were involved in the russia investigation, peter struck and lisa page. in other words, using the i rs to basically punish them. and i was thinking this might ring a bell for you, your reaction? >> it does ring a bell, unfortunately. so this is really interesting, allison. and it's consistent with statement that is john kelly made to the new york times directly a few months ago about the same topic. the interesting development here, of course, is that he made these same statements now under

oath under penalty of perjury and apparently they are backed up by notes that he took in these meetings where trump made these requests about irs investigations of pete struck and lisa page. so that's a substantiated -- you know, essentially a piece of evidence, if you will, in that argument. of course, it rings a bell for me because i was the subject of a very rare and invasive irs audit, as was jim comey, the likelihood of the two of us being subjected to the same sort of allegedly random audit is infinitesimally small. although the postal service ig looked at this and didn't find any particular suspicious things about it. i feel differently about the conclusion. i don't think it's surprising to anyone that donald trump was trying to use his access to the levers of power in washington to

exact retribution against his perceived enemies, whether that's through the investigation that was focused on me for 2 years or through the irs. this is what he does. and i think it's probably what the american people can expect if he is ever returned to the white house. >> if prosecutes can prove that, that president trump was trying to exact revenge on his enemies, is that a crime? >> it's a crime. in fact, it's the exact same crime investigated during the watergate scandal. richard nixon did the exact same thing. he had the head of the democrat party audited just because he wanted to create havoc for his enemies. he had an enemies list. he went to the head of the irs and asked that certain people be audited. so basically what donald trump is doing is taking the richard nixon play book here and doing the exact same thing probably

without even realizing it. >> tell us about rudy giuliani. so he may lose his law license? >> we know, obviously, rudy giuliani has been facing issues and among them are the future of his ability to practice law. and we saw a disciplinary committee recommend he be disbarred here in washington, d.c.. it was a unanimous decision they wrote. there are still steps that need to take place in order for this to happen. this isn't the final word, but he is also facing an ethics review in new york. and, again, this is because of these kind of claims rudy giuliani when he was one of trump's supporters at the time, take a listen to some of the things rudy giuliani said about the election. >> joe biden is in the lead because of the fraudulent ballot, the illegal ballots that

were produce and were allowed to be used. we used largely a venezuelan voting machine in essence to count our vote. we let this happen, we are going to become venezuela. we cannot let this happen to us. >> they look like they are passing out dope, not just ballots. it is quite clear this feeling. >> this election was stolen in seven states. let's have trial by combat. >> now, this disciplinary committee basically said you are a sworn officer of the court. you can't be putting claims like this into litigation that are totally not based in fact, where you have no evidence to prove this kind of fraud. of course, his allies are calling this a great injustice. again, the clips you are seeing there are from a time rudy giuliani was much closer to the former president and we are now sort of seeing the aftermath of that in giuliani's life. he is not one of these people

that we have seen around donald trump who is getting his legal fee thes paid by one of the donald trump packs. he is not as close to donald trump as he used to be. again, as i said earlier, he spoke to federal investigators for 2 days, allison. >> yeah, it's hard to imagine a legitimate lawyer wanting trial by combat. that's the opposite of the legal system does. but, nick, would the special council want to cut a deal with rudy giuliani, or is he too flawed as a witness. >> i think they would cut a deal with him in a unanimous know second if he would come totally clean, for sure. he may have to plead guilty or something to do that. but, yes, he was involved in every aspect of this. he can recount exactly how they created the big lie about this false election and fraud in the election. he was involved in talking to legislators trying to get the states, the battleground states to change their votes. he was deeply involved with a

phony electors. he was involved with john eastman who came up with this crazy scheme to get mike pence to basically not qualify joe biden as the winner of the election. so, yeah, he was involved in every aspect of this, including as i said before, being at the willard hotel where all the basic no-good-nicks were sitting around. all those people had either been pardoned for donald trump or asked for pardon by donald trump. so, yes, he can be a key witness here and he would also have to deal, though, with what's going on in georgia because i think he is a target of that investigation as well. >> yeah. >> so if he is to cut a deal, he has got to do it in both places. >> it's complicated. andy, we are learning the justice department spent 9.2 $9.2 million of jack smith's investigation of donald trump since jack smith was appointed in november. and it's interesting when yo

see how it breaks down.more thas for those that are part of the investigation, $80,000 relocation costs to get people where they need to be for interviews and et cetera. is that standard for investigations of this magnitude? >> well, nothing about these special council investigations are standard. but if you put it -- if you compare the costs associated with robert mueller special council investigation or john durham's special council investigation, i think it's appropriately in that same ballpark. i can't say directly to the penny -- >> his was 1$1 million, i believe. >> you know, my recollection is a bit more than that. >> oh. >> but iyou look at what jack smith has been tasked withng and the amount of investigative activity he has executed in the last few months or two entirely distinct and very complicated investigations involving

numerous prosecutors and agents and hundreds of subpoenas and hundreds of interviews and an enormous amount of time in front of grand juries in dc and florida. these are the sorts of bills that you can expect to see from this sort of activities. so i'm not shocked by it. and they certainly have a long way to go. obviously, you have one indictment that will be going likely to trial at some point in the next few months to a year. and we can expect maybe another massive complicated indictment on the january 6th activity sometime in the next few months potentially. >> andy, i stand corrected. you were right. that john durham was $7 million, not $1 million. obviously, i'm no mathematician. thank you very much for explaining how expensive and complicated these things are. great to see all of you. really appreciate it. >> thanks. >> okay. so what does this mean for the

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. ron desantis accusing donald trump of spending more time and money attacking him than supporting republicans. >> we have a lot more to do. i have also been attacked more than anybody, as you know. donald trump spent over 20 million attacking me. that's more than he spent sup reporting republican candidates in last year's midterm elections. at the end of the day people do want to win, but you can't win with just republican voters. we showed in florida, if you want to win a big victory, you need to win independent voters and people that haven't voted for a party in several cycles. i have shown i can do that and i

can do it nationally. >> here to discuss the gop feuds. we have jessica washington of the root and sellers and scott generalings. been flat, hasn't budged for several weeks, yet his fundraising, he raised $20 million in the 3 weeks he has announced. so is there enthusiasm for him or not? >> well, there is enthusiasm for him and he is in a different class than the rest of the people running. the problem is trump's core hasn't moved. let's rough it out. half the party wants to do trump and half wants to do something else. the half wants to do something else, he has the biggest chunk, but he hasn't been able to dispatch the other people in the race. having a war chest means super money and money they brought in from florida. that should help him move these people along in theory, but my

opinion until he gets rid of them, it's hard to create market share when you have people taking out 1% of each. >> one thing ron desantis was saying you can't win with just republican voters. but he is attacking to the right of donald trump. and as you know, that means his campaign, his pack put out that anti-lgbtq ad. so who does he think he will be appealing to if he is moving to the right of donald trump. >> it's hard to get in his head. he is right. he is saying i'm more anti-lgbtq plus than donald trump. he is also saying you can't swim with the base. it is a tactic for him because he has to say that. he doesn't have the base trump has. he has to say trump is slim margins and he is never going to be able to make it because he only has republicans. but if you look at desantis's base, it's inarguable he doesn't have this moderate swell he would need. >> well, in florida he

absolutely had moderates and independents and a bunch of democrats and he did turn a lot of blue areas red. his argument is he has turned a big purple state red and i know you like to denigrate your people he ran against down there, but it's -- >> chris's, not my people. but go ahead. >> but it is inarguable that desantis had massive electoral success among constituencies that republicans have to win and trump has never gotten more votes that are democrat. so it is correct. >> will that translate nationally? >> no. and the reason it won't is because ron desantis is the templetys of scott. that's what he is. in two, three, 4 months we are not even going to be discussing ron desantis anymore. the problem is the more you get the opportunity to meet regional oned ron desantis, the more

voters like him. he was able to do an air drop campaign. it's a huge state. florida is like three states in one. he was a great statewide candidate. but now you have to do retail politics in iowa, retail politics in new hampshire and retail politics in south carolina. they are realizing he is 5' 8 and tler realizing they don't like him as well and realizing he is not a true fighter against donald trump. in order for someone to win this is he has to be big in the country , scott and i.e. chris christy and there is no combination of both. >> that was profound. >> i took a moment to mare nate. >> is your argument his height? >> ron desantis is very short to be a president. >> joe biden -- while we are talking about --

>> we are really off the rails. >> we have been on tv all together and you keep referencing his height. are you worried about his height or joe biden's age. >> that's a tough one. i don't know. but i will tell you this. when the field shakes out, i believe firmly that we will have two individuals that are close to 80 years old running for president of the united states. and i think that -- i think that donald trump is going to bully ron desantis out of the nomination. >> let's talk about what is happening on the democrat side. alexandria cortez was on a podcast today and she says biden has her 2024 support. so here it is. >> i think he has done quite well given the limitations that we have. i do think there are ebbs and flows. >> will you be supporting joe biden for re-election? >> i believe given that feel, yes. >> so what's interesting, jessica, in february she would not say that. she would not say yes.

she said "i will see how the primary plays out." what changed. >> there is no one stepping up to the plate against joe biden. i think she has shown she wants to work with the party. she wants a democrat to be president. she realizes the threat of trump. she is saying, okay, obviously biden is going to be the nominee. there is no one else. and so she is lining up behind him. i'm not that surprised by it. >> rfk, jr., raised a lot of money why are you laughing? 3 million in a three-day span at the end of the quarter, 6 million between april and june. is it time for democrats to take him serious, cory? >> absolutely not. it's just robert f. kennedy, jr., is the embodiment of everything that is wrong with social media. he is a character a character.

the apple doesn't fall far from the tree. he rode off the orchard. he is not his uncle. he is not his father. i'm not sure why he is running for president, other than just some reason to build up his own self. i don't think that joe biden should pay attention to him. i don't think he should debate him. i think that he is a chaactu re re. >> rfk jr. is a product of the american party and american left. >> that's not true. joe rogan -- >> sorry. it wasn't a republican party that brought this guy along for the last -- >> we don't want him. >> -- two, 3 decades. >> you can have him. >> on that note, you can't give it away that easy. he is too tall for us. >> tell us friday night on the set. thank you. on that note. okay, this next story is quite serious and impacts millions of

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. an alarming new study estimates that 47% of our tap water in the united states is contaminated with so-called forever chemicals. the u.s. geological survey tested 700 locations across the country and found out how widespread these chemicals are. the epa believes these chemicals are more hazardous than

previously thought. joining me is consumer advocate erin brockovich who has surrounded the environment with. thank you for bringing such a story. what are forever chemicals? >> so they are chemicals you find, pofa, pofs you would known as a plastic coating, you would know it as firefighting foam and flame retardant we use on furniture, children's night wear, uniforms and their gear, this is what pfos and the pao chemicals are. >> what do they do to humans now we know? >> oh, my gosh. well, they create a lot of problems. they can cause -- or create eclampsia in pregnancy. they can cause testicular cancer. they can cau thyroid cancer

and leads to higher cholesterol anle to a plethora of diseases and cancer. it took too long to investigate this chemical. it got into the marketplace decades ago. this is not something that showed up and happened yesterday. the companies have known. they have warn and there has been a lot of agency failures and a quick response to corral this chemical before it became widespread throughout our water system across the country. >> here is the map of hot spots where scientists found the highest concentration of the chemicals. so the northeast corridor from washington, philadelphia, new york, and also cape cod, as you see on there are particularly bad. but then it is scattered throughout the country. so do we know why it's concentrated in those areas? >> well, a lot of where industry went and where they were using it. so we have been up in maine a

lot. now, most people don't know this -- almost the entire state of maine and its water has been contaminated with this chemical. it was found in the dairy milk, the usda delayed about 18 months reporting that to the state. they have to the farmers had to go in and kill all their cattle. you cannot use it in milk. it has gotten into the food chain there. gotten into the eggs. and part of the thing with pfos and pfoa, it is 11,000 different chemicals. these are just four of them that we know of. but it follows protein. so it gets into the food supply, which would be milk, cattle, beef, eggs and leafy greens. so this chemical follows protein and we uptake it. so we have a huge groundwater contamination because it also entered our food chain. >> so erin, what do we all do?

how do we protect ourselves? >> well, you know -- well this is a good start. a lot of people don't know about it bass we don't talk about it and it isn't until it's something national that will really come to people's attention. but at a local level they are doing a lot of things in maine and in michigan. they are working with senators. they are getting statute of limitations extended because all of these farmers are looking for some type of recourse. the municipalities have been heavily impacted. the biden has funds, biden bucks, where these municipalities can go. they are going to have to put on very expensive filtration systems to keep this one chemical out of the water supply. people need to know about their well water. they should have their well water tested. some states will come out and do well systems for them. so it's a matter of asking

information or asking questions, getting a water report, work with your community, especially the farming community and start knowing if in fact you do have pfos in your water because you will need the appropriate filtration to keep it out of your water. >> yeah. >> and this is a sticky situation, alice and this just begun, even though it has been in the system for decades because we haven't even begun to look at the sludge or wastewater and we take a lot of that and apply it to farm lands which is adding to the food contamination. >> it's alarming and most foods remove the taste and smell. reverse osmosis if you can afford it is the way to go, it costs between 750 and 7,000. so people need to be aware of it and thinking how they can keep themselves safe. err erin, we could talk about

this for hours. but thank you for bringing this to us. >> i hate to be a downer, but this is a big issue that's not going to only affect america, but globally as well and i can't think of anything more important than the protection and safety of our drinking water. >> thank you. appreciate it. more climate and earth news. the earth has broken temperature records virtually every day this week. and our next guest has studied climate change for years and has two important suggestions for what we can do now.

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. global temperature records were shattered this week. one source told cnn this week's temperatures are the warmest in, quote, 100,000 years. the average beat the last high from 2016 and tuesday set a new thursday's temperatures marked the hottest in recorded history. scientists say temperatures are in overdrive this month thanks to the phenomenon called el nino and human caused global warning. joining me is the ceo of wildlife society that help address the crisis. it's hard not to feel powerless as we watch the earth burn. on june 6th, new york city, as you know was among the top places for the worst most dangerous air quality on earth because of wild fires in canada. so do we need to be prepared for

more days like that ahead? >> we absolutely do. thank you so much for having me on tonight, allison and thanks for this back to back -- these back to back segments on environmental issues. they are so important to our health and our future. yes, we need to be prepared for more of the same. in fact, we had five of the last 8 years have been the hottest on record. not just the last days, but years of increasing heat. and we know that heat is deadly. it is something we need to take seriously, just like those bad air days last week and the weeks before that in new york city and all over the east coast. and as far west as chicago, as far east from us as europe. so we know that this is what we are facing, and we have to adapt. >> so -- >> and we can adapt. >> let's talk about that because -- >> go ahead. >> sorry to interrupt. sometimes people turn away from these segments and this topic

because it feels so overwhelming and we feel so powerless. so i was heartened to read that you have suggestions. we can still do things. it's not too late. so what do we do to adapt now? >> i think it is definitely not too late. we have no choice but to adapt. and we have always understood that change happens, but so does progress happen. and we need to keep going with our energy transition and wean ourselves off fossil fuels. but the one thing we can do and what we are working on at the conservation society is to conserve nature all over the world. the most effective carbon sinks we have right now are trees, our nature and wild places, intact forests in places like the amazon and congo, places like we work today to conserve nature and biodiversity as those

natural barriers and defenses to what we see as this incredible warming, whether it's trees and cities and trees and cities like we are doing in the u.s. with passed by congress or preserving intact forests. there is a lot to do with what we have today. and then if we lean into technology, things like clean energy, new ways of transporting ourselves. just this week the world -- the international maritime organization has improved shipping -- has set goals to improve shipping emission. so we know that we can do this. we just have to keep trying. >> and we only have about 30 seconds left, monica, what can individuals do today? >> what individuals can do today is mobilize for political action i think to continue to

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sharks.com. they say the number of shark bites has already surpassed last total. why are sharks biting us more? >> well, specifically in the northeast what's going on is there have been increased bunker regulations, which is a small species of bait fish and as that has rebounded from collapse, what that has done is brought in a lot more predators. so we are seeing more dolphins and whales and of course more sharks. so with sharks comes a higher likelihood to encounter sharks and those encounters happen to be negative. >> thank you. that is really helpful in explaining what is going on. so do you think the plan for using drones to spot sharks before they can bite swimmers will work? >> i absolutely do. i mean, i think it would take a lot of drone coverage at all times, which is something that's very difficult to implement. that being said, you know, my team and i use drones all the

time to monitor sharks up and down beaches and especially in shallow areas where you don't necessarily need to know what the species of shark is as long as you can make out the outline, you can use the drone to fly overhead and look for those sharks. but obviously the best methodology is be a safe beach goer so you can avoid them in the first place. >> so what do i do? >> good question. there is a lot of things to consider. first of all, not swimming where people are cleaning their catch if they have been fishing, not swimming near river mounts where water is dirtier and are eating. they hunt between dusk and dawn, choosing to avoid those times is a good idea. and of course if you do encounter a shark, just stay calm because that panic, that splasheking, that's what leads to the case of mistaken identity which sharks are biting people. these are not attacks.

they are mistaken identity. they see a hand flapping and go ooh, a nice tasty fish. they take a bite and know it's not a fish and let people go. let's talk about when you encounter a shark. we have this clip of you free diving to get up and personal with i believe a bull shark. so let's watch this and listen for a minute. >> this is our best shot. now, if i can just get her to come check me out. probably weighing close to 2000 pounds, this hungry mama nearly knocks me over. >> that's awesome. should we all do that, just grab the shark by the snout when it comes up to us? is that what we should do? >> definitely. do everything you see on tv,

regardless of your experience level. no, of course not. don't go swim with giant tiger sharks or pushing any sharks on the nose like i did there. that takes years of training, years of understanding the animals. we were there looking for samples. that shark came to me. i had to sort of stop her pushing me over. so don't do that. you know, if you want to get bitten, that's a great way to do it. so i don't recommend trying to fiddle with sharks. i recommend very responsible and safe visiting of beaches and owners. that way it is very, very minimal. >> thanks for the tips. i will be avoiding the ocean at dusk and dawn. thanks for all of that and thanks for sharing the great video with us. have a great weekend. >> thank you. well, the july 3rd mass shooting in philadelphia has drawn much attention, but for one advocate it came close to

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