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good morning, it is saturday, july 8th. ca hill in this morning. and victor blackwell. you are in the cnn newsroom. this morning the biden administration is defending the controversial decision to include cluster munitions in thst military package to ukraine. this package includes armored vehicles, several types of ammunition, but it's the inclusion of those cluster munitions that sparked concerns. >> cluster munitions are smaller, they shower these small and lethal bombings over a wide area, and it's a cause for concern, because in many cases when the bomb explodes the smaller ones don't always explode, they could lay there for years causing potential harm. these are banned by more than 100 countries including some of america's closest allies, but they are not banned by the us
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to ukraine or russia. president biden rejected ukraine's previous request for these munitions but told cnn in an exclusive interview he reconsidered because of recent changes on the battlefield. >> two things. i know it was a very difficult decision on my part. and by the way, i discussed this with our allies, i discussed this with our friends up on the hill, and we are in a situation, where you can continues to be brutally attacked across the board, i munitions, by these cluster munitions that are a danger to civilians number one. number two the ukrainians are running ammunition. the 155 millimeter weapons this is a were relating to munitions. and they are running of those ammunitions. going to allow for
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this transit period for these shells for ukrainians to provide them with something as a very low rate, 1.50, at least likely to be blowing, and they are not trying to use them in civilian areas, they're trying to stop those tanks from rolling. but it was not an easy decision, and we are not signatories of that agreement, but i, it took me well to be convinced to do it. the main thing is they have the weapons to stop the russians now , keep them from stopping the ukrainian offensive through these areas, or they don't. and i think they needed them. >> cnn white house reporter jasmine wright joins us now. what more is the white house saying?
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>> reporter: yet but we are hearing a full out defense to those controversial cluster missions munitions to ukraine. he had internal debate with his own leaders and other national allies. he framed it as a necessary step the president needed to take as the us again to be worried basically weather or not ukraine had enough ammunition to actually successfully carry out the counteroffensive against russia, saying that they needed these to be able to do something. we hear jake sullivan yesterday from the podium really make the moral case for sending these cluster munitions to ukraine basically saying ukraine would be using them to defend themselves inside their homeland unlike russia, who is currently using them to attack a sovereign nation, a key distinction for the us. take a listen.
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>> we recognize that cluster munitions create a risk of civilian harm , this is why we have deferred the decision for as long as we could. but, there is also a massive risk of civilian harm if russian troops and tanks rollover ukrainian positions and take more ukrainian territory and subjugate more ukrainian civilians, because ukraine does not have enough artillery. that is intolerable to us. >> reporter: the reality here is that despite that defense we heard from sullivan, there could be president biden heading to europe this week really amongst the allies. we know that in more than 100 countries these cluster munitions are banned, and even in the us there is a law against transferring them, so those are two things the president will have to deal with at home and abroad, and dealing with criticism. sullivan made two points, first time he talked about the fact the us had gotten written
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assurances from ukraine that would try to minimize the impact of these cluster munitions inside their country saying they're motivated to do so in those civilian areas, because it is their people, but talking about president biden saying basically, the dud rate, what percentage do these cluster munitions failed to explode? now, the cluster munitions the us would give to ukraine would have about 2.4%. russia currently has about a 30- 40% dud rate. the impact for russia's cluster munitions are possibly far greater than anything ukrae could be using. these are not the only things that are inside of that package that president biden directed to be sent to ukraine. it's armored vehicles as well as those aim 7 missiles and antiaircraft systems, in the midst of this $800 million
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package. this as the us continues to aid ukraine against russia. >> chessmen), thank you so much. be sure to watch tomorrow at 10:00 to see more from that exclusive one-on-one interview with president biden. it was an oval office meeting that turned to shouting expletives, screaming, and now, that chaotic meeting is drawing attention from the special counsel, which is investigating claims of electron fraud. >> some witnesses were recently questioned about the meeting, including rudy giuliani. joining us to talk about the significance of all of this, zach cohen joins us now. this is a very crucial meeting, of course. it happened a few hours before that tweet that came out telling people to come to the capital on the 6th. it will be wild. explain more.
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>> reporter: echo victor and erika, we know donald trump was sitting there in the oval office as this screaming match took place between white house lawyers and this group of outside advisors who were pitching extreme ideas for using the military to seize voting machines, declaring martial law, investigating baseless claims of an overall voter fraud. there was enough evidence to continue challenging the election result, we know donald trump did continue to challenge the results, culminating all the way up to january 6th. but prosecutors are asking specifically about that group of outside advisors that were in the oval office on december 18th, 2020, including trump office former national security advisor, michael flynn, the overstock ceo, patrick byrne, and trump office former lawyer, sidney powell. as you mentioned we also saw prosecutors speak to former members like rudy giuliani.
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there is the idea of using military to seize machines, he had his own proposal for conjuring up evidence of widespread voter fraud, including officials to give them access to voting systems. we know this remains a focus both of federal prosecutors, but also more broadly the events that happened between december 14th all the way up to january 6th. >> zach cohen for us in washington. zach, thanks so much. as the special counsel appears to be winding down, donald trump is trying to use his legal troubles to rev up supporters. >> despite initial plans to talk about agriculture the former president couldn't resist focusing on the investigations.
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>> if i weren't leading in the polls by so much they wouldn't be indicting me. >> donald trump back on the campaign trail in iowa trying to use the indictment and investigation surrounding him as a weapon to rally republicans around his quest to win back the white house. >> they want to take away my freedom, because i will never let them take away your freedom. >> the former president making clear he is consumed by the intensifying probe of his attempts to cling to power and overturn the results of the 2020 election. >> every time i get a subpoena my poles go up, i get more and more subpoenas. report to a grand jury, he's killing him. >> before his appearance today, advisors told cnn trump would focus on confronting the leading republican rival, florida governor ron desantis. >> would be a total disaster. every iowan needs to know that ron desantis totally despises iowa ethanol. >> trump stepped on his own attack lines portraying himself as a victim of prosecutors trying to derail his candidacy. trump returned to question his
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ability to win a general election as they seek to gain attention in a crowded field of contenders, they are taking to the airwaves. >> the radical left have chosen a culture of grievance over greatness. >> former vice president mike pence implored republicans to turn the page to avoid losing in 2024. >> i honestly believe different times call for different leadership. >> six months before the contest begins in iowa, republicans are a party divided between trump excitement and trump fatigue. starling perdue is staying neutral in the primary and is uncertain how that will be settled >> there is so much pro trump other ones that are exploring options, and so it will be interesting to see how it plays out. i think truly it will be time will tell how it impacts his
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election. >> with the iowa caucuses set to open the presidential contest in early january, one thing is clear, trump office campaign and his legal case have simply won one argument behind them using indictment as a weapon to rally support among republicans. the question is, can any other candidate breakthrough and challenge him one-on-one? reporting for cnn, council bluffs, iowa. >> joining me now is young, good to see you, young. in terms of what we are hearing from the former president, perhaps not surprising that he is going all in on these investigations, on the indictments and what have you. in terms of his messaging was interesting i think is that it really seems to be working for him. >>, maybe not surprising, but
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rather a playbook really that we have seen going back numerous investigations, going back to maybe various impeachment proceedings he had as well. trump faces accusations, trump faces investigations. he then accuses of being in a which hunt, he attacks and rallies and frames himself as a victim here. we have seen it with the classified documents at mar-a- lago. and it is going to be a theme in this presidential election. one thing i will be watching as well is how this will factor into not just his messaging, but the other republican candidates as well. thus far we have seen really basically chris christie that has been willing to attack the former president at this point. you have others who are maybe trying to play to the right of him. but you still see candidates hesitating on approaching the subject. it is indicating just the type
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of group he still has. candidates also don't want to lose those voters. >> now they certainly don't, it will be interesting as we proceed, as we start to see this move into ernest, come 2024, not only where things stand, but also when the message may start to change if and when it will become more erect from democrats as well who also seem to be sitting back saying we will let you fight it out amongst yourselves unto we get closer to the general. >> and that is an interesting sort of predicament i think present itself to democrats, but also to the sitting president, the white house as well. you can expect that trump is going to continue to attack it as a which hunt, but the difficult thing here is there is almost a void here, and when i talk to white house officials
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they feel like they can't rebut him every time, because they want to maintain the justice department is independent. if they go defendant rebut each of those you may undermine that as well. and that results in trump filling the void right now with information. >> yeah, they don't want him to drive the conversation, but no matter which way it goes he's driving the conversations when it comes to politics. let's take a look at some of the developments from yesterday. i noticed you pressed jake sullivan when he was talking about this decision by the white house and the president to in fact send these cluster munitions to ukraine. you pressed him specifically about how ukraine will be using them. i don't think you got the specific answer you wanted. >> right. so, i mean look. the white house and, and jake sullivan, came out yesterday,
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and you heard president biden say this, that this was a difficult decision for him. they frame this as basically something that ukraine needs at this time to protect its own civilians, to protect its own citizens in the face of this russian invasion. but one of the reasons why i was prompted to ask those questions and i think the president as well said it was a difficult decision is we have seen numerous human rights groups voiced criticism, numerous allies of the united states as well, western allies, voiced criticism with this cluster munition, just some stats for you, since world war ii cannot just ukraine, but various conflicts, it's been about 56,000 estimated to 86,000 civilians that have been harmed by these munitions. what i wanted to know is the white house and jake sullivan said they have provided written assurances by ukraine for the terms which they would use
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these weapons. and i wanted to get details on that. he was saying it's difficult to provide those details when the battlefield is always changing, and the president said this was rather temporary to hold ukraine over. what are the details of that? how long will these munitions be provided? those are answers i think we will need to continue to press. >> a lot of those questions stemming from what we heard from officials, 500 days ago, or so, when this war started, the us ambassador to the un very clearly saying, there is not a place for these weapons on that battlefield. so that is why. that's why we heard from democratic lawmakers yesterday who were saying we can't claim to have the moral high ground if this is the path we are following. i found interesting both jake sullivan and the president yesterday in this interview really went to great lengths to show how they believe the way that russia and ukraine use these weapons and weapons themselves are actually
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different. are you getting a sense from folks not only around the administration, but in political circles, that that argument is breaking through? >> that the argument is breaking through i think remains to be seen. whether it is democrats on the hill, allies as welcome i think that remains to be seen. they believe that they are going for that. jake sullivan absolutely when i asked him about this yesterday, about framing this as ukrainians and russians using these in the same way would be wrong, but let's remember. when we want to look for the reason to have concern about these musicians the united states only just now is providing that, and much of that was due to concern over how it would be used in just the length and to what extent they would continue to provide this type of munitions and weapons and let's also member this comes on the heels of a nato summit the president will be attending soon accompanied by allies that have expressed
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concern about this weaponry previously as well. so you would expect this to be a topic as well as he attempts that summit and continues to hold or try to hold that united sort of front against russia. >> yeah, absolutely. key allies, france, germany, they have signed that ban that will not use these munitions. the us, ukraine, russia, always great to talk to you, safe travels. there is a foreign escaped inmate who authorities say is dangerous and has a survivalist skills. what are they doing to track him down? after a string of shark bites and sightings officials are now using drones to try and keep people safe. and from storms to the heat some people will have to wait for relief. we have your latest forecast ahead. our health.
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a deadly fire on a new jersey cargo ship is expected to burn for days. at this point it is mainly burning on the top deck of the 700-foot-long ship. two firefighters died while trying to extinguish those flames. several others have been injured. joining us now from the scene at the port, how are conditions? there are concerns about air and water quality. >> reporter: yeah, hard to believe, erica, three days into that fire, it still continues to burn the top decks of this italian cargo ship that was transporting vehicles. in terms of the impact, there is some potential good news, new york and new jersey port authority informing us that port operations have by and large not been impacted.
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they are still dousing the area affected by the fire earlier this week. air-quality certainly a concern. there's about four stations set up near the impacted zone. officials are saying so far they have not identified any potential threats. there is a fifth mobile air- quality station about a mile out , they have also not detected anything except for some sulfur dioxide readings. they pulled back the crews letting this get back to normal. in terms of the vessel itself, it's stable, according to authorities there is a slight tipping towards the right. and they say that they do have that infrastructure and those measures that they could actually step in should they have to in the event that would get worse. but really, really the biggest tragedy here, is the human toll. yesterday, during a press conference the firefighters union president telling us more about how the two firefighters that gave their lives in an effort to actually control these flames here, identifying them as wayne brooks junior and his fellow firefighter a gusto,
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known as oggie by his friends. his family and friends say he was tough as nails and incredibly sweet reporters were told his nephew was a relief superman that became a firefighter to help the community. that's been the bulk of the focus here for newark officials as they really focused on things. >> thank you so much, pollo. authorities in pennsylvania are on the hunt for an escaped inmate. michael burnham climbed through the roof on friday from the warren county prison not far from the allegheny national forest.
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they are warning he is dangerous and is known to have survivalist skills. cnn's rafael romo joins us now. what more do we know about this man, what skills does he possess mark >> he was being held in the prison on arson and burglary charges. he is also a suspect in a homicide case. he was also associated with a prior carjacking and kid necking of a local bubble while trying to escape capture according to police in warren. this is a rural town in northwestern pennsylvania near the border. he escaped by elevating himself on exercise equipment and exiting the jail through a metal gated roof. officials say he was able to use bedsheets that were tied together to get from the roof to the ground. the suspect is a survivalist, as you mentioned, victor, and those skills may make him more
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difficult to find him and he may be able to stay out of sight. officials are taking this into account as they search for him. captain says they are doing everything they can their powers to put him behind bars. >> at this time we have been actively searching the local area. we have been checking for additional cameras. we have set up numerous interviews with people. as i said it before, we don't know where he's at right now. >> in an addition to searching for the man on foot, law enforcement officers are also using atvs, drones, and aircraft . he was last seen wearing an orange and white jumpsuit with a jail issued denim jacket and orange crocs. authorities say there is no indication the suspect is being assisted by anybody, but he is familiar with the area. a spokeswoman emphasized no one
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should engage with the suspect in any way, because he is very dangerous, victor. >> rafael romo, thank you. still ahead, police say a woman who was warned to stay away from taylor swift's rhode island home has been arrested outside that property. the latest, next. for a beautiful mattress, and indescribable comfort. for a limited time, save $400 on select stearns & fofoster mattresses. i brought in ensure max protein with 30g of protein. those who tried me felt more energy in just two weeks. uh... here i'll take that. -everyone: woo hoo!
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that shooting. according to the gun violence archive there have been 361 mass shootings in the united states so far this year. police say a woman who was warned to stay away from taylor swift's rhode island home has been arrested outside the property. a court record shows that the woman will be arraigned on july 14th. the overzealous fans have been a problem for swift over the years. and just last month an indiana man was charged with stalking, intimidation, and harassment. swift is currently in the middle of a worldwide tour. the white house confirming it is in talks with russia about a prisoner swap. friday march 100 days since he was wrongfully detained in russia. national security adviser jake sullivan was asked about those efforts on friday saying the path of medications has been opened, but he also cautioned no clear resolution had been agreed to, and the release remains a high priority for
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president biden. belarus says it has put on hold plans to host wachter mercenaries after their short- lived rebellion in russia. >> the president said the chief of wagner is not in belarus, and neither are his forces. says they have set up a camp that would house them. >> this is the closest we have ever come to a wagner camp. it stands empty for now in belarus. >> this is where we thought that wagner soldiers invited to belarus could be housed at this used military base about 100 kilometers outside of the belarusian camp in tents like these that have been set up to house fighters at any given time. for the most part they are
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empty at the moment, and that's because the plan to invite wagner and its leader over here to belarus after the military uprising of russia appears to be on hold. recent satellite images showed how quickly the camp was transformed, ready to house large numbers of troops at short notice. the belarusian general who gave us access told me, wagner forces could still be deployed here. if the political decision is made. there is room for up to 5000 soldiers at this camp alone, he tells me. and we have other facilities, too. have you been told to prepare this camp for the possible arrival of wagner fighters mark is that what you were told? we have prepared it for training and for territorial defense, he says.
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it was the sudden announcement by the leader of belarus that neither wagner nor its leader was in fact in the country that seems to have thrown planning into disarray. 16 insists his offer which helped bring wagner's uprising to an end is still on the table. but with new questions over wagner and its leader it seems unlikely this would be wagner camp will ever be filled. have your chance, cnn, in belarus. still ahead, there are officials in new york stepping up to patrol the beaches after a string of shark sightings. more on what you need to know. and now, from jarsrs to bars. new talenti gegelato and sorbetto mini bars.. ♪ beach dedefense®, from neutrogena® more protection. more sun. more joy.
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especially in the southwest and florida are seeing sweltering temperatures this weekend. cnn's britney ritz is watching this, of course. what's the latest? >> yeah, we have the threat for severe weather again across the plains, and just as you said, the southwest dealing with extreme heat that ties together, that heat and humidity helping to fuel some of these stores. nothing severe at the moment right up into the ohio valley, but quite a bit of lightning. we can expect this to ramp up with primetime heating. areas highlighted in yellow can most vulnerable for that risk of severe weather, however, a few stronger storms can't be ruled out as we roll into the ohio valley wind will be the bigger concerns over 60 miles per hour, but hail and tornadoes can be ruled out, especially in eastern colorado, so we are watching that closely as we move into the overnight hours. 6:00 tonight these storms really start to ramp up across the ohio valley and in parts of
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the great lakes stretching down into the southeast, that's round one. round two comes into play into the overnight hours, about 11:00 at night moving into about midnight, to the panhandle of texas into oklahoma, moving into arkansas around 9:00, 10:00, and expecting the southeast to deal with this tomorrow. it's not just in terms of wind and hail, they are talking also about, a number one killer in the united states. excessive heat warnings, phoenix, grand canyon, into southern arizona, heat advisories for new mexico back down into texas and areas like el paso under excessive heat warnings. 115+ degrees in some cases all across the southwest. just remember, one thing you need to know is drink water, and watch your sodium levels, too. so electrolytes, not a bad idea either. let's put a few things into perspective here. 107 degrees on average for
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phoenix, that's where we should be. we are a good five to six degrees above normal. and in some cases, 115 expected by friday. please picture you take care of yourselves. if you are not thirsty, drink a little bit of water. >> good advice. anyways, thank you so much. this summer, many americans are cooling off with trips to the beach, but officials are warning people should stay alert. new york authorities say they are stepping up trolls after five people were bitten in just two days. here with me not to discuss the rise in shark sightings is chris fischer. he is a shark specialist and founder and expedition leader for o search. you call the increase in life we are encountering in the oceans a triumph, i want to get to that in a moment. let's just start with the sharks are not coming for us. right?
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>> that's right, yeah. typically these issues occur when we put ourselves in the middle of what they are turn to feed on and confuse them. >> okay, so to, i guess, lessen the likelihood of an accidental interaction or nibble, what should people do? >> the biggest thing we can do is understand we are all in this big movement toward abundance in the atlantic. all our life is coming back. when you head down to the beach, look at the ocean before you go in. we can no longer just wander in like we did in the 70s, 80s, and 90s. our oceans are back. so if you see a lot of birds diving, there will be game fish feeding there, and really up in the new york area, the main thing that's occurring is not sharks and the game fish are pushing the bait against the beach, they are crowding it in their, and it makes it easier
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for them to feed on, but it also pushes them into the area where people are enjoying the ocean. so as long as we are watching, we slide out and enjoy it. then you have a nice quiet section of water. that's where you want to enjoy the water with your family. >> we have to again, they are not coming into our houses, we are going to their home. now let me get to this point in which you say this is really a triumph of abundance, a triumph of marine mammal act. we are seeing life that for a period we did not see. >> we've had a sequence of management moves over the last 50 years that we are really starting to see great gains from now. it all started in the 70s and 80s when we radically overfished the ocean and wiped out a lot of our fish docs. we were looking at our whales and seals, seeing tremendous
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success there with a few exceptions. in the 80s and 90s we looked after our game fish, and in the early '90s we started looking for our large sharks, which balances the system. and then five years ago we looked at our forage fish or bates, occurring in long island where we have a tremendous amount of bait back. now we see this abundant ocean that is returning because a great management, and people have gotten much better at looking at the ocean rather than just blindly wondering in, and that is what has led us to have increasing abundance of everything in the ocean, increasing people going to the beach. >> argument being smarter about it is always a good thing. i will end where we started. the sharks are not coming for us. chris fischer, thanks so much.
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>> reporter: victor, erica, this is the newest level of scrutiny after these repeat close calls involving commercial flights at major airports, six incidents this year have investigations by the national transportation safety board. but, this audit calls out three of the most egregious cases like the january incident at jfk where quick action stopped the departing delta flight from running into an american airlines flight that was taxiing across the runway in front of it. the federal aviation administration called for new training for air traffic controllers, but now the department of transportation's independent inspector general wants to know if all of that is enough. the inspector's review will also look at how the faa tracks and analyzes data about these so-called runway incursions.
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the faa tells us it welcomes this review, set to start this month. victor, erica? >> pete, thank you. we would be a step closer to living like the jetsons. the faa has improved approved the first flying car prototype. california startup says there's is the first vehicle that can drive like a normal car but has vertical takeoff and landing capabilities. >> the company says it would be a low-speed vehicle, it can only go about 25 miles per hour on a paved road. it will sell for about $300,000 . the first delivery is slated for the end of 2025. >> yeah, i think one, it is way too expensive for me. but, i would certainly drive or fly a car. there have been times when i'm sitting in traffic, if i could just levitate and move on long.
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>> just hover over all those cars, yeah, i know that atlanta traffic. i don't miss it. finally this is a great moment, last night, from the red sox game against the a's. seen in political reporter an is kinski throughout the first pitch on behalf of team beings. >> he and his wife rachel have raised more than $3 million for research to cure childhood cancer. their daughter, francesca, affectionately known as beans passed away in 2020 from brain cancer at demo nine months old. they spent a number of months in boston for treatment. if you would like to donate, you can do so at teambeansfund. he said i got it across the plate, i was so happy. >> they do some great work. erica, it was good to have you this morning. >> always nice to hang out with yo my friend. thanks for having me.
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