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in the news. president biden has arrived in lithuania for wednesdays nato summit. where the u.s. and its allies will discuss efforts to contain vladimir putin's aggression. as for biden will be meeting with ukraine's president zelenskyy whose attendance had been in question until late today. the war, and a path for ukraine's eventual nato membership both expected to be on the agenda and top the agenda. also today. turkey dropped objections to sweden becoming a member and stockholm intern appears to be supporting turkish membership in the european union. according to turkey's state run news agency. it's >> i'm pleading succession to nato is a historic step that benefits the security of all nato allies. at this critical time. it makes us all stronger and safer. >> on rush of, course there was the claim by the kremlin's top spokesman that vladimir putin met with yevgeny prigozhin just five days after the wagner mercenary boss led an armed insurrection over a major city,

shot down russian aircraft and began marching towards moscow. now that claim notwithstanding we have not seen prigozhin in public since the 24th of last month. talking about all of this with former cia chief of russia operations, first of the cnn exclusive. the lifting of the veil of vladimir putin's secret train. cnn's matthew chance did the reporting. joining us from london. , matthew this is fascinating, what have we learned? >> anderson, remarkably little is known about vladimir putin's private life. or about how he travels around his vast country. which makes this incredible trove of photographs and documents that was gathered by the dossier center, which is a russian investigative group. and shared with cnn all the more fascinating. with the revelations it brings out about the true train and about how vladimir putin is treated behind closed doors.

>> a rare glimpse inside of putin's secret train. with leaked documents shown to cnn. revealing how the kremlin leader travels amid increasingly tight security and luxury. >> surrounded by enemies and psychologically he wants to be protected. >> from outside, train number one as it is dubbed russia, seems ordinary. it is heavily armored carriages perfectly disguised with regular russian railways and -- state media was once allowed inside. recording president putin meeting transport officials. in a boardroom. the trains other 20 or so carriages, some updated as recently as last year. remain closely guarded until now.

service is a russian company that builds what it calls elite wagons for its clients. specializing in luxury design for private and state cooperations. of course the kremlin. among a trove of documents, including blueprints, letters and images. obtained exclusively by the russian investigative dossier center and shared with cnn. is one from zircon service. dated august 2018. notifying the kremlin of a test run for what it calls the sports health wagon. that has been ordered. the company photos show what the dossier center says is putin's private gym on board the train. >> as recently as last year. the kremlin was looking to upgrade the gym for american equipment through replacing the italian machines originally installed. a former member of putin's personal protection service. says he fitted the trains communication equipment before

defecting from russia. pulled the dossier center the kremlin leader. started traveling by train more regularly. in the buildup to the invasion of ukraine last year. but discretion for the russian president does not mean discomfort. leaked plans for the train also show a luxurious -- including a turkish steam bath. according to the dossier center, a fully equipped cosmetology suite with a massage table and high-end beauty equipment. now the kremlin disputes the dossier centers findings. telling cnn that president putin, neither owns nor uses a

railway car like the one described. but in the aftermath of a recent armed rebellion here in russia. in which putin's authority was threatened. the focus on his isolated existence is higher than ever. >> the idea of putin being pampered as he travels incognito. by armoured train. underlies how strangely cloistered the kremlin leader has become. if i'm paranoid in besieged according to his former speech writer. >> why is it do you think that lamar putin and the kremlin have spent such large sums of money planning and constructing this armored presidential train for? >> he is losing the war. he's losing popularity. getting more and more enemies, more and more crimes. he wants to build armor,

physical defense. >> there are signs that is an image the kremlin knows it should shave. recent weeks of seeing more publicly engage and he has been four years. but in his increasingly hostile world, the security and luxury of train number one might be sanctuary indeed. >> matthew, is he more concerned about threats from outside russia or from inside russia itself? >> i think it is almost certainly from inside of russia. that seems to be what most observers would have said is true about putin. remember the critics have been jailed, poisoned, imprisoned, opposition has been neutralized. and of course putin's absolutely right to be concerned about the threat from within his country.

just a couple of weeks ago there was an armed uprising of course in russia and i suppose the ironic thing is that the more cloistered the russian president becomes. the more cut off he is from the rest of the country, the greater those threats become. so he is in an increasingly difficult situation. >> at the, chance i appreciate that. from the prigozhin mystery, today's nato news from steve hall, former chief of russia operations to the cia. currently cnn national security analyst. also cnn military analyst, retired general mark hurly. general, when you hear that prigozhin met with vladimir putin. again, this is from the kremlin spokesperson. from peskov. so take it with a grain of salt. but even the top leadership, top generals of the wagner group. does that surprise? >> anderson, we have got to consider the fact that we have

focused on prigozhin as part of the operations in ukraine over the past several months and he has headlined that operation. but he has the head of the worldwide global private military company. they are in several continents attacking in several countries, syria, middle east, in africa so mr. putin cannot afford to lose this guy. you would think he would immediately have been put in jail because of the uprising in ukraine and russia. but truthfully, he has such charisma and sway over a large percentage of forces helping the russian government that he could not afford to be cashier. so i think that this meeting, again i do not have any classified intelligence. but i'm sure this meeting was an attempt to get him back on board. while his forces, the wagner group are being dispersed. and in fact sort of broken up. and told that they have got to join the russian military or

get away from the wagner group. so there is confusion within the force. >> it was june 24th that putin called the leaders of the rebellion, which would include prigozhin, traders on television. now the spokesman is saying five days later on june 29th that he met with prigozhin. and then they on russian state television are putting out all of the video of the raids on prigozhin's property looking at his money and the guns he has. which hyacinth comes with the kremlin stamp of approval to be out there trying to tear him down as a populist. how do you read all of this. anderson, i think the best way to read it is looking at the target audience for these individual activities. it does not really matter whether or not this ridiculous meeting happened or not. and by the way we do not have any confirmation except from mr. peskov who is well known for not stating the truth.

but it doesn't matter. it is the message putin and the kremlin want to get out. there is great concern in the kremlin, and certainly with putin himself that prigozhin actually might have gotten a grip, or somehow found a could niche for himself and side of the russian population. remember the themes that he was talking. about my boys are being killed. they do not have a glance and ammo. regardless of the fact that he was using them as cannon fodder. >> that's something that the russian people care about. we saw that two decades, ago when -- and the church and situation was going down, and the mother of those killed servicemen, started to protest and that, streets and it was a serious. problem they have to do something about that. what they do is they say, look, putin was basically acting as dad between the military defense, and prigozhin, and it's all going to be okay because now he's in control. that does not mean that he is not watching this, carefully and what have they learned? they learned that you can basically have a military attack almost on moscow, and get away with it. not get immediately killed, which is true, get a meeting with putin. i think it depends on which -- you are looking at to get an idea as what's message is being transmitted. >> on the military,

front to can -- what hat does sweden bring to the table from a military standpoint? >> truthfully, anderson it's a very good force. it is one of the strongest partners we have when i was commander in europe close to a decade ago. their army is about 24, 000, they have a reserve of about 34,000. they have a very good air force about 120 -- aircrafts over 300 ships in their navy. they have a great capability of patrolling and monitoring the northern oceans. they lead in and out of northern russia. it is a good four, squalid, very operationally savvy. but, truthfully the fact that they have stayed independent throughout the history of nato, and suddenly they want to become members, and they will be joining, i am sure. it shows how mr. putin's political objectives of further dividing nato have really fallen apart along with his other military

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additional--. and is contrary to the public. interest they are flagging the idea that small delays like this will add up to longer delays. the special counsel already indicated that they want a speedy trial. they believe it's in the public interest to have a speedy. trial of, course we know anderson, that donald trump and his co defendant walt nauta, appear to not want. that the former president is of course running for office again, and it appears that his strategy is one we have seen before, which is still, the, delay, delay. delay beyond the 2024 election, the special counsel already calling that out. we will see whether the judge signed off on this new date for them to discuss these classified, matters next tuesday. anderson. >> what do we know about the deadline tonight, regarding the special counsel's proposal that the trial began in mid december. >>

-- to say what they are, thinking as far as a trial. don't keep in mind, anderson that other than the law it's the defenders that has the right -- to invoke a speedy, trial and so the special counsel, the government really does not have that same power, what we are expecting is what we are seeing before, from the trump team, which is they're going to ask for a further delay of. this we expect that they're going to litigate a lot of the issues, including the classified documents that are at play here, anderson. the special counsel has proposed a trial date of december, and so we will see what the trump team proposes, but as i, said they have shown already that they want to delay this as far as they can. >> i appreciate, it's the man who wants to defeat the former, president put is suffering in the, polls and blaming the messenger for. what >> you've done a great job pushing back against what we

know, but i'm wondering what's going on with your campaign? there was a lot of optimism about you running for president earlier in the year, but here is this -- from the political playbook. failure to launch, florida governor ron desantis's campaign to topple donald trump has stalled, we are way behind, -- sounding the alarm. what happened? >> maria, these are narratives. the media does not want me to be the nominee. i think that's very very clear. why? because they know all beat biden, but even more importantly, they know i will actually deliver on all of these. things it's pretty clear that the media does not want me to be the candidate. >> it's the medias fault, to be clear the governor almost exclusively appears on friends from the conservative outlets, and even there, he does not seem happy

with the questio, as for his, claims the media, who don't want him to defeat donald, trump polling shows that it's actually a plurality of republican voters who don't. the most cnn polling shows him trailing the former president by 20. porn points >> van jones and former republican -- adam kinzinger. can you explain how the media, much of what she does not speak to is to blame for governor desantis's struggling candidacy a among republican voters? >> anderson, the one thing we have learned, we have learned from donald, trump and everybody else is never ever, this is like the new -- never ever except blame for anything. it's always, like paris, the fan, and push. off the media is an easy target. he only appears on fox news, or friendly media. he does not come on cnn. somehow, it's the medias fault. to tell you the, truth it's actually wrong desantis's fault because he made a decision, i think this

was largely the issue. he made a decision early on that he was going to try to be a younger version of donald trump. actually, tactically, it's probably not a bad decision to make, except that donald trump is running again. nobody can out-trump donald trump. it was a bad tactical decision, and he's waiting and hoping that donald trump is indicted, and indicted, again or he's convicted. people sit back and say, okay well who is the new trump? and, that case should be able to come in that, field but it's not going to work that way. >> logically, i guess he is referring to what he would call the left wing media. anybody who is not actually speaking to. so, he saying that the left wing media is influencing republican voters, not to vote for him. >> look, it's kind of sad. to the contrary, the media establishment media was jumping up and down, way before he even launched, breathless. oh maybe it won't be trump? maybe it will be desantis. i thought that was weird sense to say this is probably worse than.

trump he got the biggest buildup. the biggest support, it was nuts. desantis mania for months and months. then he launches his, campaign and it's just a little [inaudible]. he got more support from the mainstream media than any republican have ever gotten. he could just not convert. you're exactly, right who in the republican base is listening to mainstream media in the first place? he's getting killed by his own people because his strategy is, them he tried to run to the right of donald trump, when there's a big space to the moderate center of donald trump. he ran away from his natural constituency, and now he's feeling. to the congressman's, points rather than being a grown-up in, saying i should change. he just wants to cry about it. it sounds like that strategy might be changing a little, bit desantis is reportedly now planning to do interviews around a series of policy proposals that is laying out in

the coming. weeks is that an acknowledgment that what he's been doing so far is not working? now they're sending his wife out sole on the campaign trail, because i guess among voters, she has shown some traction. >> yes, it's probably an acknowledgment that he'll never acknowledged again. probably tactically he should not. nobody's ever at fault, except for. everybody is at fault except for. him i think, it should actually be good for the debate if he does pivot to issues. people want to know where he stands on stuff. when he signed the abortion ban on corridor, he didn't in the dead of night. these are issues he needs to come out and talk about, and defend his positions. anybody running for president anywhere needs to come out and defend their positions. i think the big issues. this i cannot remember at least to my wife, anytime a almost guaranteed front runner, or significantly talked about front runner, as early as rhonda sanchez was, has ever advanced to end up being that person. you think back to the early days of joe -- yarborough scott walker. that's the nature of it. he was built up far too much, for two. first he does

not have, i don't mean this, mainly he does not have a personality or the acumen to be able to follow through on that. >> congress men alluded to, it do you think it's too late to foul--. there's nothing there of the better. ditch you can't out-trump trump. the congressman just said it. when you look at the people who are available, in his party to vote against donald trump, it's people who would maybe admire the confidence of a governor who's gotten a lot of staff. but not people who are more extreme. he's done this bizarre saying, where i guess there's some narrow slice of people, who don't think donald trump, is mean and horrible enough, but i haven't found them yet. that is what is showing up. he's got a terrible strategy at the nomination. that's just the bottom line. van jones, i appreciate it. >> i just got to say, quick i think at the beginning, he thought trump was going down, and he needed a

carbon copy trump. the problem is, trump is not going to. >> how much does being a nice person matter on the campaign trail? in national politics.. it hasn't lately., but, actually think about it. people like donald trump's personality. they think he's funny in everything. else i'm not a fan of it, but i do think people have to feel like they like, you. he doesn't exuded. that he does not have that vibe obviously. donald trump somehow figured out a way to be a billionaire, totally out of touch with america, and exude that vibe. iran just hasn't. >> congressman, i appreciate. it's next, devastating flooding, roads and even stairs turned into rivers. a look at the damage in parts of the, northeast and what we can do hawaii was too expensive so i brought it here. you know with priceline you could actually take that trip for less than all this.

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still raining. the state's search and rescue coordinators say some towns are inaccessible at this point. >> trying to gain, access we can continue doing well for. checks so far at least 50 people have been, rescued as roads are washed out and rivers continue to rise center task force members to help out. >> it's been going on for a measure -- and >> this comes on the heels of deadly flooding in parts of new york state. homes inundated with water in rockland county. >> look at the peoples doors. >> just north and west point, just fell and six hours on sunday. that's a one in 1000-year rainfall event for that area. according to cnn analysis of -- data in orange, county one

woman was swept away by floodwaters. she was in the bottom of her of the. in >> their county executive says emergency services conducted about 50 significant water rescues. right now there are no reports of anyone missing. >> i saw army active duty soldiers up to their bellies. we were walking two cars to make sure that people got out. if you-year-old richard bayer says this is some of the worst flooding he's ever seen. he was rescued by boat from his home on sunday. >> i'm just depressed inside. this is happening. i knew i was going to lose a lot of stuff. >> people were forced from their homes and cars, all across the northeast. >>. this is the new normal, be prepared for the worst, because the worst continues to happen. >> chad myers, cnn. >> more now from hard-hit vermont, that's where miguel marquez is, tonight in the sun --, miguel what do you

like? there you spent all day trying to get up to the hardest hit places. >> we have been trying to get to -- and other areas that are hit incredibly hard, and this is what you find everywhere. this is the williams river -- and we had to come back from rockingham so we could not get a single out of. there is the water was extremely. deep -- i'm standing on line here, and if i step, this way that is the road. check this, out it's washed out, just over here. this you will see throughout this area, you will go down the road, there will be no water on it a half hour later, it will be completely flooded out. keep in, mind this is now good. the water is starting to recede here in vermont. i have had rainfall after rainfall, after rainfall for weeks and weeks now, and there is literally nowhere for the water to go. search and rescue and vermont

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>> the serial fabulist, new york congressman george santos has taken on many fake identities with his fabricated resume. his shamelessness continues. now comparing self to civil rights pioneer rosa parks. comments came in a recent podcast interview where he discussed senator mitt romney. reportedly telling, quote you do not belong here before president biden state of the union address in february. centrist invoked rosa parks's name when discussing what happened. >> i will call them. out you want to call me a liar? i will call you a sellout? i mean mitt romney, the man goes to the state of the union of the united states weighing a ukraine lapel pin. tells, me a latino gay man and

i should not see in the front. that i should be in the back. guess what, rosa parks didn't see in the back and neither am i going to see in the back. >> oh snap, let us put this into context shall we? in 1950, five rosa parks was arrested in montgomery alabama for refusing to say in the back of the bus and give up her seat to a white passenger. her act of courage and defiance led to the montgomery bus boycott. it is known as one of the earliest starting points of the civil rights movement. nearly a year later, the supreme court ruled the cities bust segregationist laws were illegal and unconstitutional. by comparison, mr. santos is awaiting trial on criminal fraud charges, pleaded not guilty to a 13 count indictment which includes allegations of misusing campaign funds and lying about his personal finances on a house disclosure forum. he is also admitted to lying about lying about his resume and background. thirst is on quench to, over claims he will be seeking reelection. so let's take a look at the numbers and shall we? our senior data reporter is here. so what does the data show us

about how desantis is polling? >> what is wrong with him? can i just say that? my goodness gracious. , look his favorable rating in his own district comes in at 7%. that is not particularly high. >> i'm surprised it's a high to be. honest >> i, and you get 7% of americans to agree upon anything. in, fact i have some examples of that right there. >> 10% of americans believe the earth is flat. 12% believe that the u.s. faked the moon landing. >> of course. so >> obviously right? the fact is -- >> stanley kubrick filmed. it >> we did all for some ridiculous reason. so i think that gives you an understanding of just how unpopular this dude is. he has fallen behind conspiracy theories. his support pocket in new york's district is so small. >> does he have fundraising mbs? does he put those out? f quarter one, we don't

know what it is quarter to fund raising is. but for quarter, when he raised a little more than $5,000. by comparison, his republican challenger. we know his quarter to fundraising is. and he has raised about $200,000. so i am not necessarily the biggest math genius in the world but i believe that is 40 times about as much as the incumbent representative has. and that of course is ridiculous because normally incumbents raise a lot of money. and in this, case the incumbent has been far outraised. >> has great name recognition. >> he does have great name recognition, but sometimes, they say that all moves is good news, perhaps that is not necessarily the case in politics. because in this particular case, that news seems to be quite negative. >> are there polls about rosa parks's popularity? >> there are. >> there is polls about everything. come on, you know. this if george santos is universally disliked, rosa parks is universally well like. at least now.

if you look at rosa parks favor rating among democrats and republicans. they have a right at about 90%. slightly higher among democrats than republicans. but the fact, is that is with in a statistical margin. >> that is at least good to see. >> it's good to see. i come with good news. we have a serial fabulous to us somehow got into congress. with the fact, his resume, parks a civil rights year, rightfully, so still very well liked. while someone like george santos is not just disliked by democrats, he is disliked by republicans with just a favor rating of only 11% among republicans in his own district. >> harry enten, thank you very much. >> thank you. still, had presidents royal visit meeting today with king charles since he was crowned. we will check out on the when next. to relieve pain right where it hurts. and did we mention, it really, really sticks? salonpas, it's good medicine. >> woman: why did i choose safelite? i love my electric car, so when my windshield got cracked,

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>> four heading to the high stakes nato summit in lithuania, we talked earlier president biden wasn't lithuania meeting with king charles. this is biden's second trip to windsor castle since taking office in 2021. he met with late queen elizabeth the second. also met with king charles during the queen's funeral last. here in keeping with u.s. tradition, the president did not go to the coronation in may. president biden put his hand on the kings back at one point

during their visit. which was much commented upon in the uk. a royal source saying it was correct protocol and called it a quote, wonderful symbol of warmth and affection. joining me now is cnn royal commentator and author george the sixth. -- sally bedell smith. >> so saying, the president and the king together, they've both been on the world stage for decades. to these kinds of meetings matter? >> i think the one today that matter. it was different from, certainly the way the queen operated. not that she was not aware of sensitive, issues but it was mostly played out in private. today was to me, having studied him from a long, time sort of a marker for his reign. he was -- he's always been and i can see. convenor his loved convening groups. that was when he was friends with royals, and now he is carrying. he was doing it with a very specific way in mind, and an agenda that he

absolutely shares with president biden. they are completely an accord on climate. this was a heavy hitting group. it was 50 to 60 of some of the most prominent businessman, philanthropist, financiers, and they were all getting together. it was under the auspices of the british government. we have to remember that the king, now that he's, king only does the things that the government allows him to do. >> there were some talks in the uk about president putting his hand on the kings back, not being traditional protocol. it was pooh-poohed bart royal sources, who said it was not a big deal at all. there is that formality though. there is that tradition. >> there is that

formality. it was more the case with the queen. i remember once with the queen in a state visit. please let me know -- the woman was so enthusiastic that she put her arms around the queen, and you can see the queen's hands were sort of pointed to the ground. she didn't know to. do it's a hockey time, he had a very high algorithm, and he's been out and about with people in a very informal, settings and i think that that kind of tactile approach was not anything that would put him off. he's been housed a lot by people on--. i don't think it bothered at hall. it was an expression of warmth on the part of biden, and it was reciprocated by the king. >> a few years, alder but they're basically of the same generation. they both waited a

very long time to get to their respective jobs. there is this strange commonality. >> there is, of venously the king was born to it. his destiny began to be a day he was door born in 1940, eight and joe biden started indicating that he wanted to be president back in the 19 80s. he had a few fits and starts along the way. in a sense, they both have fulfilled their destiny. charles is -- a septuagenarian, and joe biden is a -- octogenarian. i think that means a lot to both of them, to finally be able to fulfill their ambitions. even at -- what they call grade a. it's great to talk to you as always. thank you. >> thank you

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my colleague jake tapper's new thriller novel, all the dems are here. exploring 1970s america through the lens of an a wall marine, the new novel continues the martin family story in the chaos of the decade, and thanks to jake's intensive, research the life, of politics and pop culture history, the book is really a great read. jake is here with me tonight. >> congratulations on this book. i love this, book and i feel like you are writing about my childhood. it's evel knievel, studio 50, for new york city blackout in 1977, which i've huge memories of. >> of course. >> and alves's death, which i totally remember. 1977 was, i was eighth in 1977, you're just a couple years older than. me i

was in philly, and my parents were hiding all of this. from a summer of, sam new york city. i did not know any of. it all i know was elvis died, i love elvis. i remember disco as. well i want to studio 54 1970, eight with my mom twice. >> that's your particular child hood that i read about in my books. but i will say, trump capote is there. i knew him while. did you know roe cohn? >> he also shows, up spoiler alert tends to be overtly. for >> my mom's lawyer worked for rod combed. i should've told you right. there i was ten years old. i was like mommy should not have a lawyer who worked with him, i was ten a new. this i should have consulted with you on the block. i will say, 1970, the first book was about the 50s, the second book was about the 50s, i was going to skip -- i remembered myself sheltered view of, them and these lame gas, lines malays, they were insane. as you know, so when i -- diving into them. ufo sightings, colts, studio 54. new york city blackout, summon son of sam, and i don't

remember because my parents didn't. for me this was a wild and crazy time, and very fun to write. about >> what's great about the series that you've done is, if you have read your previous books, it's a continuation of the martyr, families and the two kids, but you don't have to avoid your previous, books this is a stand-alone book. you can just jump right in. and this, one the kids are now in their twenties. they are the main characters. lucy is a journalist, and aspiring journalist, and working for a rupert murdoch figure. max lionesses, name loosely based on rupert murdoch. she goes into the world of tabloid journalism, which was huge in 1977, and is unfortunately continue to be. -- i also worked of robert maxwell as well. whose name has been forgotten by, history except for abstinence -- except for ghislaine maxwell. >> ike, he's

on a wall marine, he's working for evel knievel in butte montana, and that whole plots gets into the idea of the guards, mobs, and -- i was very into evel knievel, evel knievel, son robby knievel. he passed away earlier this, year may he rest in. pace that character is so fascinating. i was not into. him a friend of mine was. when i, figured okay and need to do the 70s, i started looking into evel knievel and i was, like i wanted a motorcycle my entire life, i was not allowed to have. one of course, when i came of age of 18, before i got a, car got a motorcycle license. >> they are really dangerous. >> they are so dangerous. i wrote for three years and then i was, like okay this is to. much >> he was not a good motorcyclist. he was just braver or damar or willing to jump over 15 buses. the idea at