well, george santos ap apparently likes to compare himselelf to others. the embattled lawmaker facing charges. he has a new comparison.

here he is, responding to mitt romney, telling him he didn't belong at the satate of the union. >> rosa parks didn't sit in the back. neither am i going to sit in the back. that's the reality of how it works. mitt romney lives in a different world. and he needs to buckle up. it will be a bumpy ride for him. >> right. i'm just going to leave that for you right there. john berman, sometimes silence says everything, my friend. >> yes, it does. thank you so much, laura coates. the curtain opens in the final case against donald trump, the georgia edition. as rudy giuliani takes center stage, hair and makeup optional as always. this is "cnn tonight" or cnn

nearly tomorrow, as i like to call it. and tomorrow, which is now just minutes away, is a milestone in one of the key investigations into former president trump. tomorrow, selection begins for the grand jury, which seems likely to vote on whether to indict trump in fulton county, georgia, for his efforts to overturn the election there. this was the call that trump made to find votes there. >> so, look. all i want to do is is. i just want to find 11,780 votes. that's one more than we have. we won the state. >> the new grand jury can move well beyond that phone call and expand charges into the realm of fraud and racketeering. it falls from a investigation of a special grand jury that did not have power to indict but

sounds like it would have if it could have. they wrote, a large majority of the grand jury believes that perjury was happening before it. the jury recommends indictments for the crimes where the evidence is compelling. this, that we're learning as soon as tomorrow, rudy giuliani could reach a resolution in a dispute with former georgia election workers. after they accused him of defaming them. after the 2020 election. >> name and i've lost my reputation. i've lost my sense of security. all because a group of people starting with number 45 and his ally, rudy giuliani, decided to scapegoat me and my daughter. to push their own lies about how the presidential election was

stolen. >> a lot of reality seems to be raining down on giia, including the special counsel asking him questions. and a washington, d.c. panel recommending him be disbarred. he is available on cameo, and $9.75 a live video call. the same as dog the bounty hunter and the guy who played newman on "seinfeld." let's start with the georgia grand jury. this grand jury selection begins tomorrow. what will they be doing? >> in a word, indict. they have the power to indict. this case went to a special grand jury. they were able to issue a written report. you quoted some of it earlier. this is a real grand jury, per se.

what will happen at the end of the presentation, is they will present evidence to this grand jury. it's a one-sided process. the only people allowed are the grand jurors, the witnesses and the staff. and at the end of it, if they are asked for an indictment, they will vote on it. the vast majority of time, it results in an indictment. >> and the fulton county district attorney has telegraphed that something is coming down or coming up. as soon as three weeks from now. she asked for special security. and said that people are going to be working from home. what are the range of charges? >> the range starts with election interference. there was more to the effort than that. there were other calls placed to an investigator, to the governor. tried to get state legislators from georgia involved.

we could see state election interference charges. we have seen reporting there could be racketeering charges. prosecutors have to show there's an ongoing criminal entity. the trump campaign, the trump white house. and then, you have to show that criminal organization engaged in a pattern of racketeering activity. two or more interconnected crimes. you have to prove more. it can be powerful in front of a jury. >> you use this all the time. >> all the time. it has been applied to labor unions, corrupt city governments. corrupt officials. >> the fulton county d.a. is not the only one sniffing around this case.

the special counsel has talked to some of these people. what's the overlap or possible conflict there? >> jack smith's investigation is broader. but cassidy hutchinson never stepped foot in georgia. one of the questions is who get there's first? is d.o.j. going to charge donald trump with crimes at all? or will fi think it's clear she intends to charge donald trump. >> if jack smith gets there first, what happens? >> i think she needs to take a careful look at her case and decide is there any need to have an additional state prosecution that will cover some of the same ground that jack smith will cover. do we need all of us need a

fourth indictment of donald trump? that will be brought by an elected democratic county-level d.a.? or will they let d.o.j. do its job. >> that would be your suggestion if she asked. >> if i was the adviser, i would think about that twice. the legal issues are not confined to the former president. his former attorney rudy giuliani is regaining his resolution to the dispute with the georgia workers. they accuse giuliani in scapegoating them in a fabricated effort of how votes were counted with statements like this -- ruby freeman and shea freeman moss, and one other gentlemen, passing around usb ports as if i

they are vials of heroin or cocaine. >> he may be reaching a settlement with them. >> with us is sara matthews, who testified to the january 6th committee like those women did. what's you're view on the etlement? >> i'm happy to see accountability happen. it's a shame what they have been put through. the fact of the matter is, one man, donald trump, could not accept the fact that he lost the 2020 election. so, h s, he concocted conspirac theories with his associates and tried to put the target and the blame on other folks. we saw that happen with mike sense and saying he could send

electors back to the states. we saw it in this situation with these two women. it has real-world consequences, these election lies. these two women were the target of death threats. they were found to be on a kill list from an oath keeper. it is sat sad. i hope the settlement gives them peace of mind. >> how do you feel about the accountability delivered on other fronts? until now, do you think there's been real accountability for january 6th? >> i don't. i think the work of the committee was to help shed light on what transpired in the lead-up to that day. and donald trump's failure to act that day. it is disappointing to see many in my party choose to ignore the facts of that day for political

expediency. they want to whitewash events and move on from it. we cannot ignore the fact of what happened. it will be curious to see what happens with the d.o.j. investigation and what comes of that. donald trump has been indicted twice for two other matters. could face potential indictment with that case. there could be accountability. how was giuliani viewed inside the white house, among staffers there. what did that smile just mean? >> i think a lot of people were concerned with the advice that donald trump was receiving toward the end of his tenure at the white house, from folks like giuliani and sidney powell. there were folks in the white house that were telling trump he lost the 2020 election.

he didn't want to listen to them. they weren't telling him what he wanted to hear. he started tuning them out and listening to folks who were telling him what he wanted to hear. i did not have interactions with giuliani. colleagues found him to be a bit of a joke for what he was pushing. trump was buying it. >> he's in the middle of a bunch of different issues now. thanks for being with us. have a great night. >> thank you. what's the biggest problem for ron desantis? is it the media? mexico? donald trump? or ron desantis? the answer and a tv first, your threads read live, when we come back.

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tonight, does n desantis ha? t saying he has any problem at all. he's second place in national primary polls. and every early voting state poll. over on fox, they ask him why he is not doing better than that. suggesting it is a bit of a problem. this was his answer this morning. >> i think the fact that i'm targeted by the media and by the president of mexico is people know i will beat biden. they know i will deliver on all these issues and beat the democrats at the border. beat them on things like esg and on crime, and they don't want to see that. he doesn't have a remembering his lines problem. he gave almost the exact same response on friday on fox. i think if you look at the people, like the corporate

media, who are they going after? who do they not want to be the nominee? who is the president of mexico attacking because he knows he will be strong on the border and hold him accountable? he's going after me. the left, the media, the president of mexico. they are the reasons he's not doing better, he says. with his big money campaign and time spent in iowa, new hampshire and so on. it's not me, it's you, media and democrats in mexico. it's like the time i was dumped in high school. instead of you, it's me. it's not me, it's mexico. i'm not sure if it worked in high school. does it work in presidential campaigns? let's put it to our experts. if you'll allow me, i would like to do this in multiple choice form.

the biggest hurdle for ron desantis right now, is, "a" the media. "b" mexico. "c" donald trump. "d" ron desantis. >> can i split it between "c" and "d"? >> sure. >> your show, my rules. >> number one, you look at ron desantis' favorable ratings. those strongly correlate with how you do in the primaries. we're seeing his strong ratings drop. he has a problem. but at the same time, donald trump has gone up in the polls. not just that desantis has fallen. all of a sudden, trump picked up momentum. he's doing well because of the indictments. i would split my answers between "c" and "d." >> desantis has a desantis problem. people do not like the guy.

he may be the worst national retail politician since michael bloomberg. bloomberg were more likable and relatable. he may have cracked the code running against the disney corporation and waging culture wars. he's tone deaf on the national stage. he's sinking like a stone. >> is it correctable? >> i don't think so. ran desantis is stuck with ron desantis. you can't do a personality transplant and recover. >> i want to shift gears to an article that came out this morning that suggested or reported that president biden has a bad temper. old yeller, n's private that hyellat his staff.

know this?ow the "f" don't you don't b.s. me. get the "f" out of here. and aides say if biden doesn't yell at you, it could be a sign he doesn't respect you. i ask this in a multiple choice form, also. is this a sign of mistreating his staff? "b" respect for his staff? "c" his age. or "d," an issue that is not an issue. >> two parts. biden has a temper. i don't think he has a temper problem. i wrote about this in my book. one of the first things jen saki said to the president, i won't feel like i'm a part of the inner circle until you yell at me. biden has a short fuse. it's triggered by sloppy staff work. by bad decisions. if a president isn't losing it,

he's not paying attention. he's not doing his job. that's not the problem. the pob for biden in re-election is his age. he's 80 years ole. he walks like zombie. that's not his fault. cognitively, he is fine. that doesn't matter to a substantial portion of voters. many of them democrats. in a perfect world, wants a younger, more vigorous president. >> i yell at you because i respect you so much. >> thank you so much. you don't yell at me and i don't yell at you. it's clear he has a semper. i don't think he would lose an election is because of a temper problem. we saw this when biden's poll

numbers dropped in 2021. is it the economy? i'm not sure if the economy does improve -- which it is doing. we've seen inflation drop over the last few months, the last year, that was necessarily improve biden's numbers. a lot of issues is his age. they don't like the idea of two cand cand candid candidates facing off, north of 75. the age is his issue. sounds like ron desantis has a ron desantis problem. joe biden might have a joe biden problem. >> the irony, in the world we're facing right now, confronting from ukraine, to all of the other problems, experience ought to trump youth. evidently not in the polls. >> maybe a nice tan.

president biden was shirtless. he's sun tanning. he's doing what we all do. my question -- i often think in politics nothing happens accidentally. was this picture designed for "a" donald trump? "b" ronald kennedy jr., his opponent who does push-up shirtless. "c" voters, or "d" vladimir putin? >> none of the above. this one is above my pay grade. this is one i have to throw to jeff, the white house chief of staff. what in the world were you thinking? >> i would say "e" it was for me. that's something i wish to attain and achieve by the time i'm 80 years old. >> all right, harry. i promised viewers this would be the first television broadcast where we read threads outloud. i asked people to send us

threads. i'm going to ask you one of the thread questions that was sent to me by real matt cooper. asks, what's the job like for anchors when they are not on the air? >> that's a beautiful job. you get to meet people like me. >> we hang out backstage and talk about polling. that's how fun we are. >> we're a fun group. a band of mercenaries seizes a city and marches towards the capital and want to oust the defense minister. what was vladimir putin do about it? he meets with them to discuss further employment options. should we believe that? i'll ask the cia's former chief of russia operations next.

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tonight, the shocking news or at least the shocking claim that vladimir putin met with the man who led the armed revolt against russia. and he met with him five days after the aboarded insurrection. the kremlin claims that putin

had a three-hour meeting with evgen evgeni prigozhin and discussed options. what kind of employment options are available for someone whose troops shot down russian helicopters and shook e foundations of pulten's 20-year grip on power. what would the job listing look like? seeking middle age manned for treason and catering. must love dogs and no commitments require being alive. the last point gets to the central question surrounding prigozhin at this moment. why is he alive? the idea of a meeting after the revolt, suggests that seizing a russian city and marching towards moscow thing is water under the bridge. putin doesn't seem like a water under the bridge kind of guy. he seems like a throw you from

there's a word thaegtst's come symbolize in russia, defene defenestration. a great word for puzzles. a sinister word for survival. it's plummeti ing mysteriously from open windows. this happened to all kinds of people. why not the guy that tried to begin an uprising. how long can prigozhin live in a windowless world? what do we know about his itinerary? we were told he went to belarus. then, we were told he is in st. petersburg. now, we are told there was a side trip to putin's place. we were told he went to those places. we haven't seen him at all. why couldn't this be a "weekend at bernie's" plot, where they cart around the idea of

prenegotiation. >> he's not around anybody anymore. >> i know that. you know that. nobody else knows that. >> at least in the movie, they had a body. here, we vice president seen anything. just an itinerary. that raises so many questions that gets to the heart of putin's grip on power. i want to turn to steve hall. why is prigozhin alive if he is? >> there's so much we don't know. you're right. you mentioned things like claims and data. these are things that political scientists really want. you can you analyze something acc accurately. we haven't seen prigozhin in i don't know how long now. it would make sense he wouldn't be alive anymore, based on the things you went through in the lead-up to this. all of this is true.

we don't know if a meeting happened. one of the reasons they're saying things like the meeting happened and they're saying what they are saying because they're worried about him. they're worried about him. there's two groups of people that are concerned. it's the suggestion population. the population is why they're saying, we met, everything is fine. you hear good things. they're worries that prigozhin might have a grip on how russians feel about the far. and putin has to be worried about the people that surround him. the reason we're hearing about prigozhin is they're still worried about him themselves. >> you're not dismissing my "weekend at bernies" theory. they're carting around the idea of prigozhin. how long can they do that until

we actually see him? >> i think they are playing for the long term here. what's going to happen to prigozhin and this gets back to the fear of what he means to the russian people. it takes a lot to get to russian people into the streets and do something. sometimes they will do a protest. but overthrow a government. that putin mentioned. they are worried about that. they have to be concerned about that. if they had killed him outright, what would happen, they don't want to risk that upsurge of popular support for him. they have raided his apartment. they found billions of dollars in rubbles. they will paint him as krups. he will end up in prison. they will work to get him out.

>> steve hall. i appreciate you being with us. i really do. i want to know when we're going to see the guy. if he really exists. how do you catch a survivalist on the run? that's what authorities are asking themselves, with a murder suspect somewhere in the pennsylvania woods tonight.

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getting assistance. we are investigating that. we're prepared to prosecute anyone who does after him assistance. police say he is a self-taught survivalist with military experience. what does that mean? how long can a person survive on berries and roots? and what special skills would it take to capture a man who can do that and has nothing to lose? let's bring in john miller. great to see you. pennsylvania state police believe he has help. why? >> because the campsites seem to be stocked ahead of time. that suggests that he escapes the prison, that he goes on the run. and that he knows where he's going to these designated locations in the woods. food, supplies and rations are waiting for him.

>> what fascinates people about manhunts is how does a person evade law enforcement? i talked to experts. if he has help, he can last a longer time on the lam. on the other hand, if he has help, there's more people to question. what's the truth there? >> both. let's go away from the generic manhunt to the prison escapee manhunt. in that case, you're assuming there's going to be help on the outside. you look for this. who is on the visitors list? do we have those on tape? who is on the phone call list? who is he making phone calls to? once to hear the escape plan. and is there coded language that

now that we see he's out of the institution, we can decode. that's the beginning. those people are out of jail. when you lean on those people, and you start to cut off his continued help, with the idea of he's out of jail but you can be back in jail with him. >> police say he will make a mistake. what are the kinds of mistakes, what are the mistakes they make? >> they will try to close off the circle, if there is help. one person or telepeople. he will have to stick his head up. they will be waiting. or try to eliminate the people from the circle. and make him do something like i have to steal a car or break into a house or a weapon.

they have to worse him out of the woods. remember, eric robert rudolph. >> that's the name that comes up. typically, people get caught. the one that didn't was eric rudolph. >> he was not just a survivalist. eric robert rudolph was the olympic park bomber and bombed gay clubs and clinics. as police were closing in, ran into the nantahala national forest, that's bigger than some states combined and disappeared for five years, living off the land. getting some help. he woundered out and was caught. do we see mr. pbeam living in the allegheny national forest. i don't think he has eric rudolph skills. >> john miller, great to see

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northwestern university has fired pat fitzgerald. this comes in the wake of allegations in hazing of the wildcats football program. cnn has reached out to fitzgerald for comment. we have yet to hear back. he was not aware of the hazing. now, to tomorrow's controversy. the senate permanent subcommittee on investigations will be examining the proposed merger between the pga tour and the saudi-backed liv golf tour.

on the eve of that hearing, the pga confirmed that randall stephenson is stepping down from the pga policy board, citing concerns over the deal. stephenson discussed the deal in his resignation letter, that is one that i cannot in good conscious support, particularly in light of the report of jamal khashoggi in 2018. with me now is bob costas. great to see you. the hearing before the senate, who is not going? that should be. >> well, jay monahan, the commissioner of the pga tour, who has taken a month off, for an unspecified health concern, will be back on the job next week. and he would have appeared had they postponed the hearing. they declined to do that. monahan is missing. greg norman, who was the figure head of liv golf, famous golfer

in his own rite, will not be there. and the primary representative of the private investment fund, the saudi private investment fund. he, like norman, claimed he had a scheduling problem. but was willing to appear at a subsequent hearing. this is probable just the beginning. >> it is just the beginning. they will get started and ask important questions. one question that liv golf and the pga tour asked behind the scenes is, if joe biden -- if the president of the united states can go to saudi arabia and fist-pump, why can't we play golf together? >> i think the concern is -- you're better qualified to get to the next point than i. but there's certain concessions, compromises, relationships that grow out of real politic, as opposed to something that is quite possibly an exercise in sports washing, where everyone

involved is, whether willingly or unwillingly, perhaps a public relations figure, an ambassador, for the saudi regime. that was more the case when it was strictly liv golf, when phil mickelson and dustin johnson and brooks koepka went over there. now, the question is, how much influence will the saudis have when this merger is complete? they are playing out what is likely the last season of liv golf now. no truth, nobody cares. they care about it from a political standpoint. they have to figure out how phil mickelson comes back. there has to be a penalty involved. they can't just come back. those that remain loyal, like tiger woods, and rory mcilroy and others, will be ticked off by that. those guys pocketed the money. now, they come back. they have to work all that stuff out.

perhaps less a connection to the saudis. and the deal has particulars that have yet to be put in place. but the idea is, as richard blum blumenthal, one of the heads of the committee, along with ron johnson of wisconsin. this is a beloved american institution. and the players and fans don't want to be complicit in something that elevates a regime that many people find objectionable. that's going to be one of the questions. monahan of the pga tour says, there will be a supermajority of pga representatives on the policy board. the saudis will not be the ones that control the sensibility and the direction of it. it will be recognizable in a traditional sense to american golf fans. there's another question, which is an antitrust question. and the pga tour enjoys tax exempt status.

they will be looking into that, as well, beginning tomorrow. >> bob casses to, always an honor. we have to cut it short. we have breaking news just in. tomorrow's breaking news, really tonight. this just in. former president donald trump's lawyers in a new filing, are requesting that the court, the court hearing the mar-a-lago documents case, the one that former president trump has been indicted, they are requesting a consideration of any rescheduled trial date. let me be more clear about this. they are asking that the trial be postponed until after the election. anpposing candidates are effectively, if not literally, directly adverse to one another in this action, will create extraordinary challenges in the jury selection process and limit

the defendant's ability to a fair and impartial ageation. the trial should postpone consideration of a new trial date. john miller is with me now. wait until after the election, an election he could win, where he could pardon himself. >> we saw this coming. we saw this coming with walt nada's -- donald trump's co-defendant, lawyers saying, we want to postpone his arraignment. postpone it again. they've been asking for delays. it's not a leading proceeding to drag things out. there is an idea and there's twofolds to this. one that if you get within 60 days of the election, democrat d.o.j. policy is you don't go forward with the election. may be why jack smith is saying it is the opposite of public interest to have delays. we need to get through this case

now. we don't bump up against that. there's many in d.o.j. who believe there is a 60-day rule. the 60-day rule is a standard that was made up they've gone by as a guideline. it's not a rule and not a law. you see these cross tensions here. >> and the federal judge is the person who will decide this. >> that's right. that's in her decision. and everybody is speaking towards their goal here. the second fold, which is, there is a scenario where donald trump could be elected president, and this is untested constitutionally. and pardon himself of all federal criminal charges. that might leave, depending if georgia indicts and the new york district attorney's case goes forward, state charges that he can't pardon himself from. there's a lot to unfold here. >> a lot to unfold. will be in the news tomorrow.

you heard it here first. john miller, thank you very much. before we go, i promised more threads. here's a thread, i would love it if every anchor signed off their shows with something positive, something that a pempb person is looking for today. that's all for tonight. i'll be here all week. what could possibly go wrong? thanks for watching. our coverage continues.

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