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sweden's nato bid. >> stockholm appears to be supporting membership in the nato. >> will meet with volodymyr zelenskyy on wednesday. deadly flooding drenching the northeast. >> i knew i was going to lose a lot of stuff. what more can i do? >> it's going on for days. and that's my concern. this is the new normal. be prepared for the worst because the worst continues to happen. the doj accusing trump's long-time aide of asking for a, quote, unnecessary delay in the mar-a-lago classified documents case. former president trump's lawyers, they are asking that the trial be postponed until after the election. >> you get within 60 days of the election, doj policy is you don't go forward with criminal charges that are going to affect the election, which may be why jack smith has been saying it is the opposite of the public interest to have delays. ♪ today the senate will
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receive its first-ever classified briefing on artificial intelligence. >> actress and comedian sarah silverman is suing meta over copyrighted. >> you're using it to train chat bots. >> i think in the future we should expect to see a lot more lawsuits like that. ♪ he did not do it! >> oh my. >> he will hang on and win the 2023 t mobile home run derby. congratulations to vlad. he and his dad both home run derby champions. ♪ good morning, everyone. a lot of news this morning, but i do want to know, vladimir guerrero jr. winning the home run derby like his father in 2007. i'm sure this is what you were thinking about last night. you were at an ai class, i was watching the home run derby. >> you have input to add on
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that. much more than i do. but before we get to baseball and the home run derby and probably a little more ai, we have a lot of news, including what we have been following all morning that crucial nato summit in lithuania is under way. president biden huddling with allied leaders as the war in ukraine rages on. the high-stakes summit comes after the huge announcement that turkey will allow swede on the join the alliance. >> it's a magic strategic blow to vladimir putin. president biden just spoke about it. >> this historic moment, the adding of finland and sweden to nato, is consequential. and your leadership really matters. i still think that president putin thinks the way he succeeds is to break nato. not going to do that. >> melissa bell is live for us in vilnius. the white house says allies will discuss ukraine possibly joining the alliance in the future, this
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as president zelenskyy just sending out a fiery tweet. >> reporter: it was fairly blistering, pamela, actually when you look at its wording, warning that uncertainty over ukraine's membership is actually wh's fueling the motivation of moscow to pursue its war. stave a look at some of that wording. he described ias unprecedented and absurd that no timetable had been fixed either for the invitation tbe given to ukraine nor indeed for ukrainian membership itself, going on to complain about the conditions being attached. and yet, pamela, it's important to note as we just heard from president biden speaking alongside jen stoltenberg even as they gather for that crucial group photograph of 31-plus sweden now nearly 32, that the wording that president zelenskyy described in that tweet is precisely what it's been so
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difficult for the 31 to agree on because nato has been fundamentally divided over how quickly and how easily and how firmly they should tell ukraine they can join once hostilities have ended. an interesting launch there from president zelenskyy, even as he prepared to travel. he's prepared to talk about this openly when he arrives tomorrow. perhaps not the tone that nato allies had been looking for. and yet this is something that's being closely watched from moscow. peskov, the kremlin spokesman, a few moments ago in his daily call with journalists saying that this summit being held here in vilnius beyond its location, its geography, pamela, it's important we're 20 miles from the russian border, not so much the geography but the anti-russian stance. the fact that moscow is watching is huge. the fact that unity has been achieved is important as well and tomorrow the group photograph that should include
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president zelenskyy. >> yeah. melissa bell, policy substance for sure. optics, you saw president biden, at his meet and greet, the family photo of nato members is coming shortly after. we'll get back to melissa bell in a little bit. thank you so much. joining us now the former u.s. ambassador to the united nations, john bolton. also served as donald trump's national security adviser. thank you for coming on. appreciate it. so first want to get your reaction to that tweeted from zelenskyy. i mean, that was, as i said earlier, fiery. >> well, zelenskyy is completely right. the administration is about to make a mess of the whole ukrainian relationship with nato. and zelenskyy has a historical memory. george w. bush proposed bringing ukraine into nato along with georgia in april of 2008, rejected by germany and france but with a nato promise that ultimately ukraine would be part of nato. the russians followed that up by invading georgia four months later and ukraine in 2014. and nato did nothing. the united states did nothing.
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now they're saying again, well, ukraine will become a member of nato at some point. it's simply inviting the same lesson for the russians to learn, that if a country isn't in nato, it's vulnerable. ukraine is fully qualified to be in nato. it was in 2008 when bush first proposed it. it was just as qualified as the central and eastern european country tas came in the 1990s and early 2000s. only one reason why nato has a problem with ukraine coming in and that is nato has a long-standing policy, it never invites into membership a country that's at war because to do that would trigger article 5 of the nato treaty and potentially put all of nato at war. nobody has given an answer to that objection, but that's what they should try to figure out how to overcome. >> how do you overcome that? this is the thing i don't understand, what is the alternative to changing from a two-step process they no longer need action membership plan. >> this is just bureaucratically
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meaningless. >> what would be meaningful, active hostilities, any member would trigger article 5 in the midst of the act of hostilities, what is the alternative here? >> the problem is biden is putting other objections in the way. he says they're not ready for nato membership. that's a mistake. that's a signal to russia this could be a long time off. i think there are security guarantees they could provide. frankly i would have told zelenskyy long ago, stop pushing this because you're not going to get this objective. but it's part of the mishandling of ukraine policy that's been going on in the administration for some time. >> but to be clear, you think that ukraine should be accepted into nato while it is engaged with russia? -- >> no. that's my point. there's one objection and that's the on going war. it's not that it's not democratic enough. it's not that there's corruption. it's not that they need a membership action plan. it's not anything else. there's one reason. so if you get rid of the nif naf that the white house has been focussed on and concentrate on that issue, then maybe you could find an answer or at least
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something that would be satisfactory to ukraine. instead we're having a debate about irrelevancies the middle of this war. >> so you think we should wait until after the war. the white house has said that is the main priority. >> they should have stopped right there. >> okay. we just are seeing the so-called family photo. not our term to be clear right here as the world leaders gather at the nato summit in lithuania, including president biden. a lot of important meetings happening today in lithuania. and a lot of developments as well. the biggest one being, of course, turkey opening the door for sweden to join nato. russia unsurprisingly not too happy about this saying that turkey has gone from a neutral country to unfriendly county. it's so fascinating when you look at turkey's role in all of this and the relationship it has had with russia and being a power broker, how does this change the dynamic if your view? >> i think turkey is still a
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problem for nato. i think it was outrageous it objected to the application. erdogan pu the rest of nato a process of extortion. we don't know the full price the united states paid to get turkey's acquiescence here. i'm sure it has to do with f16s sales. i would still vote against selling f16s to turkey. they have not behaved like a good nato member. they started down the wrong road by buying russian s400 defense systems and hasn't gotten any better over time. i'm glad sweden is finally getting in. but we need to address turkey as a separate problem. it's not that it's gone from being neutral. it was always a nato member and hasn't gone to being more anti-russian. it's still playing a very negative role inside the alliance. >> should the u.s. send turkey f1s? >> i would not at this point. i don't think that erdogan is trustworthy. and i think frankly if he had continued to block sweden, nato
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should have looked at least suspending turkey from membership. this entire course of behavior does not befit a trusted ally. >> i want to get to what we just heard last night from senator tuberville about white nationalists being in the military. our kaitlan collins interviewed him. let's take a listen to that exchange. >> when you're in the minority in the senate, it's only power that you have to get people's attention, to get them to do it the right way to go by the constitution, only the power we have is to put a hold on something. so we thought that this would get the attention of the secretary of defense. and we're trying to teach them that you cannot legislate from the pentagon. and so it's a tough situation. there's nobody more military than me. my dad was military. career military. i'm all for the military. we need a strong military.
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but we also need to go by the rules in the constitution and represent the people and taxpayers. taxpayers are not supposed to pay for anything that has to do with abortion. >> just to be clear, you agree that white nationalists should not be serving in the u.s. military. is that what you're saying? >> if people think that a white nationalist is a racist, i agree with that. i agree -- >> a white nationalist is someone who believes that the white race is superior to other races. >> well, that's some people's opinion. i don't think -- >> that's not opinion. >> pardon? >> what's your opinion? >> my opinion of a white nationalist is somebody wants to call them white nationalist is to me is an american. it's an american. that white nationalist is a racist, i'm totally against anything they want to do because i am 110% against racism. >> but that is what -- a white nationalist is racist, senator. >> that's your opinion. that's your opinion. >> it's not an opinion. >> if it's racism, i'm totally
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against it. >> your thoughts. >> look, i'm against hyphenated americans. i think you should be pro-american and patriotic and i think part of the problem in society today is we forgotten our national motto. out of many one. that's what we should be aspiring to from many different countries, many different fates, many different races they are all americans. that's what we should focus on. these kinds of distinctions that people are trying to draw are inevitably negative. >> do you think white nationalism is an opinion? >> i think -- well, obviously some people hold it. that doesn't justify it. >> but do you believe white nationalists are racists? >> i think that's -- i don't know what other way to describe it. >> so you do? >> right. i'm not debating anybody here. >> i want to be clear because clearly tubberville didn't want to say that. should they be in the military? >> well, i think there are all kinds of people in the military. if they keep their opinions to themselves they can serve the country. that's historically been the
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case. >> can i ask you on the substance of the marine step down there will not be a confirmed replacement because of the flag promotions that have been held up by tubberville because of his issues over defense department policy related to abortion. do you believe that block aid is justified or do you believe it hurts national security? >> i don't believe it's justified for constitutional reasons. i think in the past 30, 40 years the senate has way overstep what had the framers sbintended thei roles was in confirming presidential nominations in the executive branch or the judi judiciary. certainly in the executive branch. i think it's much more limited than the senate thinks it is. i think this is an example where it's gone too far. but there are thousands of others. that's for sure. >> all right. ambassador john bolton, thank you for coming on, offering your perspective. we appreciate it. >> thank you. now to israel where thousands of protesters have once again taken to the streets. some clashing with police earlier this morning. see pictures there and getting
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arrested. this comes as prime minister benjamin netanyahu moves forward with the plan to overhaul judiciary. opponents are calling today a day of disruption and resistance. hadas gold joins us live from tel aviv. do you get the sense that these protests will move the scale on what has been an on going very significant issue inside israel? >> reporter: yeah. well, no. i'm at tel aviv airport. it's already very loud here. this is one of the main elements of this massive day of disruption that's been going already since the morning across the country. these protesters hoping and believing that by coming out here, by disrupting the daily life of israelis, they will be able to somehow push this legislation up. keep in mind that these protesters have been coming out now for 27 weeks in a row. but they have a renewed vigor now because last night one of the new elements of this
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judicial overhaul -- just one piece of this massive judicial overhaul has to do with whether the supreme court can rule government actions to be unreasonable or not. and it still has to go through several other readings. but for those protesters, this legislation coming back on the table after months of it being essentially frozen as negotiations try to take place after it was frozen. remember, from those massive general strike and protests last march. there was attempts in negotiations. those seemed to have failed. now the government is pushing for once again with this legislation. now, they say it's watered down. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu walked away from some of the more controversial aspects of this overhaul, allowing parliament to overturn supreme court decisions. but these protesters and the opposition essentially do not believe benjamin netanyahu and his government say it will be a softer reform, they want this overhaul to be completely off the table. they're planning to increase these protests.
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tonight, they're even calling for tents to be pitched in downtown tel aviv. phil? >> hadas gold live for us in tel aviv. thank you. kudos to her for keeping it together with all that noise and activity in the background there. new overnight, trump's legal team asks a judge to delay the trial over his mishandling of classified documents, citing the 2024 election. we're going to break down his arguments up next. stay close. tein. those who tried me felt more energy in just two weeks! uuuhhhh... here, i'll take that! woohoo! ensure max protein, 30 grams of protein, 1 gram of sugar. enter the $10,000 powered by protein max challenge. ♪ ♪ the first time you connected ur godaddy website and your store was also the first time you realized... well, we can do anything. cheesecake cookies? the chookie!
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soon. trump, of course, pleaded not got the 37 felony counts against him over his alleged mishandling of classified documents. want to bring in our panel now, jackie kucinich, eli stokeles, jeff zeleny. and defense attorney and former federal prosecutor shan wu. i want to start with you. when you look at these filings how persuasive is the president's request particularly citing the election which is going to be on going for the at least the next 18 months. >> well, i don't find it very persuasive. of course there's no legal precedent for this particular situation. so they're right about that. i think the problem here, though, is that it's very hard to challenge a decision by judge cannon to basically, quote, delay, unquote the trial. it's not necessarily that much of an unusual delay. i mean, it's complicated case.
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i think almost any defense counsel would be seeking to delay the case. and they're likely to succeed in putting it off easily to the point of the election. >> yeah. and let's talk about you have the legal side of this, trump's lawyers making the legal case but also jeff zeleny, the political side of this, and why it would be in trump's best interest to have this trial delayed until after the election. >> without a doubt. we saw the date of the iowa caucuses which opens the presidential race on january 15th. so of course, he does not want this to be coinciding it. but i'm struck by he is campaigning on the indictments. he is campaigning on the investigation. i was at a rally that he was holding on friday in council bluffs, iowa. he talked extensively about the investigations and the indictment. so he is trying to have the benefit of that for his political purposes but obviously try and pushing this down the road legally. but look, he's always done this with all the legal cases against him. he's done a couple things. rarely paid his legal bills and tries to extend the legal case
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as long as possible. i don't think anyone is surprised by this. >> eli, can i ask -- you as somebody would use the word pendency, columbia journalism grad, it's an elite constitution. i'm just giving him a hard time. he gives me a hard time quite often. i think one of my questions is why the top tier gop candidates never used this against him and obviously they want to keep trump's base, but to some degree ron desantis has just waffled around on this issue. and now he's blaming mostly the media. i want you to take a listen to what he had to say. >> do you think you would be able to be a challenge to trump? >> well, as i've -- down over 30 points to trump. what's your strategy for catching up? >> well, first i think it's pretty clear that the media does not want me to be the candidate. i think that they've tried to create a narrative somehow the
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race is over. >> the first clip was glenn youngkin. we'll get to him in a second. i didn't mean to fake you out on that. it's tried and trued. republicans and democrats used it when they're down in the polls. attack the media. do you think it works? >> it worksed for desantis in florida to disparage the media writ large biased against me. it works with conservative voters. they heard that messaging from republicans a long time. does it work in a primary? probably not. when you're losing or -- when you're explaining, you're losing. he has to explain why he's double digit points behind donald trump. and that's not great for ron desantis. blaming the media. i don't think really is going to change voter's minds on that. and he and all of these candidates who are far behind president trump despite what trump is dealing with on the legal front, they all have to decide, they all have to figure out how they're going to start
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going after him more pointedly because they are just tiptoeing around him. and we saw how that worked out in 2016. didn't work very well. didn't work very wrel for 2016 republicans to go after him more pointedly either. ask marco rubio, jeb bush, many of them about that. but this is difficult because they need trump's voters to come their way. don't want to alienate them. and yet, you know, typically when someone is that far ahead of you, that's your target. >> all right. so let's get to glenn youngkin. gave you a little preview, a little sneak peek of why he's relevant in the conversation now especially because some have speculated with desantis's campaign struggling, this is opening the door for another candidate to join. could that be governor glenn youngkin. does he want to jump in the race. here is what he told kaitlan collins last night. >> do you think you would be able to be a challenge to trump? >> well, as i said to folks -- i have been asked this question frequently, one, i'm humbled by it.
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when someone brings common sense to office like a governor in virginia and you get a lot done and deliver on promises made, i'm encouraged. >> i heard you say you're humbled by this but you never ruled it out. >> well, i think what is most encouraging is the frequency that people are asking because of what's going on in virginia. and what i've constantly said and you just said the iowa caucus has been pulled forward into january. i'm not in iowa. >> will you be in january. >> i'll be in virginia. i think i'll be in virginia. >> so virginia is where he's going to be is what he's saying. still not a no. he's not ruling it out. that said, the longer you wait to throw your hat in the ring and you don't have an organization, it makes it a lot harder just ask president michael bloomberg. even if you have the money. >> wait, he's not -- >> not, not president.
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sorry. >> equivalent of jumping on to a speeding car trying to join a presidential campaign at the very end. look at florida governor ron desantis. that's how difficult it is and he has an organization. look, he's plan b. he wants to wait in case everyone else falters he'll be there. color me skeptical it's never been done. >> you understand why he might still want to have this flirtation. it's pretty difficult the longer you wait. and if you look at the field, none of these other guys, more than a dozen of them, they're not catching on. how is he going to do it? if they can't take the air out of trump, how is he going to do it? >> virginia. >> speculation promoting virginia and what he's done. so, you know, he's taking advantage. >> that's for sure. thanks, guys. >> thank you. the fairy tale, it continues. american christopher ewe banks just reached the wimbledon quarterfinals after beating out the fifth seed. and get this, it's his tournament debut.
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unbelievable. >> 6-4, 6-4. >> storybook has another chapter to be played out. >> he is smiling and happy for really good reason. the 27-year-old american tennis player christopher yewe banks advanced to the quarterfinals in his first-ever appearance in wimbledon upsetting the number five ranked player in the world. it is a moment that did not come easily, to say the least. just a year ago, eubanks was considering leaving the sport all together after six years of playing professionally and never a grand slam tournent.nd in even took a side job as a tennis commentator whilstl playing. now he is ranked a careehigh 43rd in the world. and tomorrow, he will face off against world number three,
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medvedev. joining us now is tennis hall of famer and euro sports tennis commentator mats whelaner. safe to say he knows a thing or two. >> he has some perspective on what's going on here. i mean, this is just incredible to see his rise, to see where he has come given he was going to drop out a year ago. it can be hard, if not impossible, to predict, of course, who is going to win any match on any given day but tell us what stands out to you about eubanks game, how he plays. why this was his moment and how he was able to turn things around for himself. >> yeah. so he's got a very big game mfb obviously he's 6'7", so he has a huge serve. he's got one-handed beautiful backhand. he's talked about basing his game on roger federer's game and watching a lot of youtube videos. so he plays sort of an old fashioned, traditional tennis. he hits the ball really hard from both sides. he's got an amazing attitude. and i actually talked to him a couple times and interviewed him
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at wimbledon. he said that he gives a lot of credit to the time he spent as a tennis commentator because he started to look at the game differently. and he realized that players were going in and out sometimes of matches mentally. and that has given him confidence and knowledge that he didn't have before. so, i mean, i don't know where this is going to end, but it's an amazing story. it's definitely the cinderella story of this tournament. medvedev is tough but eubanks has a huge game. that's the big difference from other players that sometimes get through to a quarterfinals. we don't know how good he can play. he's playing great. might have to play better. >> the primary question i have for you when what do you do when a 6'7" guy is standing at the net to try to get something by him? more importantly, the beauty of this story this moment, if you were watching american tennis, you were thinking taylor fritz, you were thinking frances tiafoe who you were thinking going into this tournament. ewe banks admitted struggling with the playing surface of grass. he had this great comment his
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press conference, he was texting back with kim clooisers saying this is the stupidest surface to play on, para phrasing to some degree. talk about the ability to get over the surface itself. >> yeah. very hard to get practice obviously on a grass court. that's why we see a lot of older players do well at wimbledon always. and he won the tournament in majorca. that's huge. so he has won nine matches in a row on a grass court. it used to be an advantage to be tall and have a big serve on a grass court, but they slowed the courts down at wimbledon tremendously since the '80s and '90s. so it's not really an advantage anymore to have -- to be that size. but, you don't come to the net as much, but he is coming to the net. he is very difficult to pass. very difficult to lob over, of course. but it's also not enough in today's game to just sort of hit a sliced backhand and come to the net or serve and volley and go to the net all the time. guys are too good at returning
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and hitting passing shots. so you really have to construct points before you get to the net. and he's doing that. he's more aggressive than anybody in this draw for sure. so, for everybody that's up against him, it's not a style that you see everyday. and you might play a player like that a couple of times a year. so, it's a big surprise to a lot of guys. but i think most important is his mindset, that he's relaxed. he puts no pressure on himself. >> let's listen to eubanks himself after his big recent win. here is what he said. >> dream come true. yeah. tough to really put into words, to be able to come out today and play the way that i did and just kind of take everything in. it's surreal. i can't really describe it. >> surreal. what does he need to do in your view to win against medvedev?
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>> reporter: well, he needs to just keep playing the way he's playing, which is level that's obvious. he has to raise his level, which is not that easy. but, with a style that he has, that is possible if he has one of the best days of his tennis life. he needs to hit a lot of winners. he needs to keep rallies short. medvedev doesn't give you any unforced errors. he moves extremely well. but med ve deaf has never been in the quarterfinals at wimbledon ever. he is finding his feet on the grass court. he won the u.s. open once but on a grass court, this is new to him too to do well. eubanks must go in with some confidence, but he has to be very aggressive. he has to basically risk a lot and hope that he has another tremendous ball striking day. he's going to get the crowd on his side if he's in the match from the beginning. and the best part about this, he serves so well that he will always have a chance in one of
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the first three sets. once he gets to a tiebreaker with that serve, anything can happen. but, i mean, medvedev -- djokovic will be harder. medvedev is the toughest player for him to play at this particular moment because of his skills, because of his retrieving and defensive skills. >> all right. we shall see. i'll be watching that match. i will be watching it. thank you. one republican senator is holding up military confirmations. his latest explanation as to why and how long it may last coming up next. ♪ i was told my smsmall business wouldn't qualify for an ercrc tax refund. you should get a second opinion from innovation refunds at no upfront cost. sometimes you need a second opinion. [coughs] good to go.
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♪ for the first time in more than 150 years the marine corps is without a leader. the result of senator tommy tubberville's blockade on nominees. a block aid he had in place since march of this year. at issue, his opposition to the defense department's new abortion policy provides additional support to service members and dependents may have to travel out of state. the alabama senator doubled down on that standoff. >> when you're in the minority in the senate, it's the only power that you have to get people's attention, to get them to do it the right way. to go by the constitution. the only power we have is to put a hold on something. and so, we thought that this would get the attention of the secretary of defense and we're trying to teach him that you cannot legislate from the pentagon. and so, it's a tough situation. there's nobody more military
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than me, kaitlan. my dad was military, career military. i'm all for the military. we need a strong military. but we also need to go by the rules and the constitution and represent the people and taxpayers. taxpayers are not supposed to pay for anything that has to do with abortion. >> joining us now is republican senator from south dakota mike rounds also a member of the senate armed services committee. senator, i want to start on that because i think the question has become as this has dragged on for several months is military readiness, national security actually being affected by the blockade that's been put in place? >> apparently not. the reason why i say that is because if it was you would have department of defense officials negotiating with senator tubberville. but in this particular case, they're not responding to him. they're not visiting with him. we can take each one of those nominations one at a time. kmu kmom dant for the marine core could be voted on today. they're one at a time.
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senator tubberville said we're not doing it by unanimous consent a whole bunch of them all at one time. but if the department of defense says this is a very serious issue and it's one that we need to resolve tomorrow, all they have to do is make the phone call to the senator and say, this is our problem. what are we going to do to fix it. they sit down and begin negotiating. senator tubberville made it very clear he has not had contact with them. so this is a two-way street. if we want to fix it, the department of defense has to play as well ch. >> i understand that. there are tools that the minority party has in this case. >> every senator, every senator has. >> if you were in the executive branch, why would the pentagon feel the necessity to start negotiating your independent agency policy with the senator just to breakthrough? >> yeah. in this particular case it's a sensitive policy. >> no question. not denying that. >> so each senator has to decide for themselves where they play that card. but, every single senator has the ability to decline to participate in a unanimous
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consent approach to a whole bunch of nominations at one time. senator tubberville has that opportunity. every other member has the same opportunity. but remember, this is a two-way street. the department of defense can at any point step back and stay, you disagrees with one of the policies we now imposed. let's work our way through this. i saw the interview in part last night. i understand that senator tubberville made it very clear that he's prepared to negotiate but he had no contact with the department. i've talked to a couple of the folks within the department as well and said, look, work your way through this. sit down with senator tubberville. communicate with senator tubberville. >> he sat down with the nominee to be the chairman of the joint chiefs of staff yesterday. they're clearly having discussions on some level. >> that's where it has to start. look, i think this can be resolved. personally i would like to see the nominations move through more quickly than what they are. we can take each one individually so the critical ones at the very topmost
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certainly can be done one on one, today, tomorrow and the next day. but long term they have to respect the ability for singer member to ask for consideration when they are challenging a policy the department of defense imposed. >> when you're in the majority again and somebody isn't following this -- >> same thing applies on both sides, republican and democrat on the unanimous consent thing. once again, it's unusual. but it is something that it is a unanimous consent. senate works primarily on unanimous consent. when you have a problem on something, you have to work your way through it. >> i understand. i do want to ask you about something else the senator was asked about last night. made some comments related to while nationalists serving in the military. our colleague kaitlan collins asked him about it. this is what he said. >> just to be clear, you agree that white nationalists should not be serving in the u.s. military. is what that you're saying -- >> if people think a white nationalist is a racist, i agree with that. i agree -- >> a white nationalist is someone who believes that the white race is superior to other
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races. >> well, that's some people's opinion. and i don't think -- >> that's not opinion. >> pardon? >> what's your opinion? >> my opinion of a white nationalist -- if somebody wants to call white nationalist is an american. it's an american. if white nationalist is a racist, i'm totally against anything they want to do because i am 110% against racism. but there's a lot of people -- >> a white nationalist is racist, senator. >> well, that's your opinion. that's your opinion. but it's -- >> it's not an opinion. >> if it's racism, i'm totally against it. >> i'll be honest, i don't understand why this is the hill that the senator has chosen. to be clear, kaitlan was following white nationalist is racist? >> go back to the basics and that is all men are created equal. we have to work towards that. it's working towards a more
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perfect union and respecting each other and let's not get race in the middle of it. let's talk about everybody being equal to begin with. anytime we have the opportunity to make sure that as a nation we move back in and eliminate the color barriers that are there and have occurred in the past, we should do everything we can to make that happen. it doesn't mean you don't recognize differences but you should celebrate diversity. >> i want to ask you, the briefing that's happening today on artificial intelligence, everyone's trying to get their heads around this. i don't think necessarily does. but what are your expectations from the classified briefing, high level administration officials coming up, how do you see this moving forward? >> talk about if -- there is a fear about what could happen with a.i., and what it means. defining a.i. by itself is going to be a challenge. the second piece is what does it
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mean for our country in terms of the defense of our country and what about the offensive capabilities? a.i. is on the battlefield today. not just at the highest levels, but at the tactical level today. you find it in ukraine. you find it in the war between armenia and azerbaijan in 2020. it was being utilized at that point. our challenge is to bring our members up to an understanding of just how deeply embedded a.i. is in our military operations so that as we look at different parts for regulating or monitoring or learning about a.i. we don't hurt our ability to defend ourselves using a.i. and that we understand clearly how advanced our adversaries are in the use of artificial intelligence in their operations today. so it's a matter of bringing everybody up to speed with
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regard to the department of defense, through d and i, our most technically advanced capabilities in space, but also when we talk about near ret willically what we use a.i. for in the future, let's not put ourselves at a disadvantage. that's different than the regulatory aspects we are trying to do to make sure there is transparency on the civil side of things when we talk about business operations and the invasion of privacy that can occur using a.i. so it's a fine line that we're trying to walk and trying to do it in a diaper basis to keep everybody so it doesn't come to a fight. >> before you leave, who are from an adversary perspective gives you most concern? >> china. no question. >> how advanced do you think they are? >> very advanced. they are very, very capable. look, a.i. is as we look at of is not just the ability to use
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supercomputers but the ability to have large databases and cat gore size those databases to actually put labels on everything in it so a machine can recognize them. china is very advanced. they are looking at databases in the west right now. one of the reasons you find tiktok being something they promote. it's not just china, but other countries are also using it. it's an inexpensive way to move forward. russia has strong capabilities. iran has a real strong capability and to a lesser degree north korea has some. >> all right. senator, i suspect you will give us the information from that classified briefing. >> hopefully, it's a good way to bring a number of members up to speed. >> no question. thanks so much. northwestern university firing the football coach after accusations of hazing within the school's football program.
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what is your reaction to this? >> it's a very serious situation, obviously, and northwestern university president michael shell is part of that investigation said that 11 current or former players acknowledge hazing had been ongoing. not just hazing. specifically, hazing that included forced participation, nudity and sexualized agents in a degrading manner. some student-athletes according to the investigation believed it was fun and games. others believed it was incredibly harmful. while that hazing was well known by many in the program according to the investigation, the investigator found no credible evidence that head coach pat fitzgerald knew of what was happening. that said, according to the investigation, it also reads that the hazing we celestial gated was widespread and not a secret in the program providing fetch fitzgerald with the opportunity to learn what was happening. football while incredible in some ways was oken in others.
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as much as coach fitzgerald has met to our institution and our student-athletes we have an obligation in fact a responsibility to live by our values even when it means making difficult and painful decisions such as this one. we must move forward. now, i have reached out to coach fitz and his agent and we haven't heard become. coach fitzgerald denied knowing any of this was going on up to this point and just for context for anyone who may not know, he has been involved either as a player or a coach with northwestern for nearly 30 years and is by far the most successful football coach in northwestern history. but clearly these allegations and the investigation got to a point where the university felt they had no choice. >> all right. thank you so much. and "cnn this morning" continues right now. >> head to toe without any shoes on. i mean, you lost your shoes getting across here?
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>> yeah. i couldn't find a rope so i took two heavy duty extension cords, tied them to the back of the truck and i was going to bring them out. >> good morning, everyone. i'm phil mattingly with fpamela brown. millions of americans in the northeast are still under flood alerts as a slow moving storm continues to dump rain on new england. >> and president biden is meeting with nato allies in a crucial summit. the war on ukraine dominating the agenda and sweden is now poised to join the nato alliance in a major employee to russia. john kirby will join us live just moments from now. and grand jury selection set to begin today in fulton county, george, where former president trump is facing yet another potential indictment. this tomb for trying to overturn the 2020 election. this hour of "cnn this morning" starts right now

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