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president's legal strategy becomes clear, delay, delay, delay. his lawyers make the case in the judge and documents case, we're keeping them honest. also, senator tommy tuberville, last night on cnn, he said white nationalist, to me, is an american. now, he's doing damage control will still blocking promotions of military officers in a battle over abortion. and live reporting tonight from new england, where some of the worst flooding there in decades is still far from over. good evening, thanks for joining us. tonight, we know what has long been suspected, the former president is trying to run out the clock in the documents case. and it's not just us saying it, he and his legal team did. a court filing, which arrived just before midnight last night, spells it out. in it, attorneys for the former president and his co defendant walt nauta asked judge aileen cannon not only to set aside her august trial date, but also to, quote, postpone any consideration of a new trial date. so, these are the trial, and delay deciding when to have it. special counsel jack smith wants a december trial, which our legal analyst agrees is both quick for this type of case, and for white-collar trials in general.

additionally, judges typically go out of their way to give defendants ample time to prepare. now that said, this filing argues that the former president cannot be tried until after the election, which, if he wins, would likely amount to never, according to most legal observers. as you know, judge cannon is a trump appointee, whose already been rebuked by an appeals court panel for an earlier ruling in this case. in his favor, based on dubious legal justifications. now, the former president's attorneys are arguing in this case, it should be delayed for a number of reasons. one is, they say he's just too busy campaigning to prepare for trial. i'm quoting now, this undertaking requires a tremendous amount of time and energy, and that effort will continue until the election on november 5th, 2024. here's another. too many other trials, quoting again from the former presidents attornies. previously scheduled trials and other matters from both president trump and defense council make it nearly impossible to prepare for this trial by december 2023.

now, a third justification is handling the governments docs themselves, which he is accused of course of mishandling. quote, significant effort will be required to sort through the purportedly classified documents, once received from the government, before any motions on behalf of the defendants can even be filed. then of course, there is this argument. quote, there is no ongoing threat to national security interests, nor any concern regarding continued criminal activity. now this, for a defendant charged with obstructing an investigation, even before he was indicted. and already, and is more not to discuss the case with his co defendant, or potential witnesses, out of concern for just that, any continued criminal activity. so, there's a lot for judge cannon to consider. but the former president's strategy is now quite clear. the irony of course, is that he is now in a position he once envisioned for hillary clinton, a position he once said should have precluded her from ever becoming president. >> we could very well have a sitting president under a

felony indictment, and ultimately, a criminal trial. we need a government, that can work properly from day one for the american people. >> perspective now from someone who prosecuted then president trump in congress, not in court as lead counsel the first impeachment hearings, daniel goldman, now a democratic congressman from new york. congressman, do you believe the legal arguments for presidents attorneys are making are legitimate? >> there is certainly should not win the day. this is the "i am donald trump" defense. and therefore, i am running for president, so i cannot be charged with a crime that every other american would be charged with, nor can i go to trial. there is no question, and there was no question all along, that donald trump was going to run for president as part of his criminal defense strategy. and we see that play out in this letter, which is to say, i am running for president,

therefore i am so important, that i am above the law, and i can't be tried. of course, the objective is to get into 2025, when he hopes to be president. and he can somehow make the case go away. so these arguments that you referenced at the top, anderson, should not be persuasive to any objective reasonable judge. the question here is whether judge cannon, a trump appointee who bent over backwards and went over the line in a lawless ruling related to the mar-a-lago search warrant, whether or not she will placate donald trump and grant this request. >> do you think she will? >> for adjourning it indefinitely. it's very hard to tell. i think she should not. i don't know what she will do. this is a request that, in my ten years as a federal prosecutor, i never received. and nor would any judge that i practiced in front of evergrande. there are legitimate concerns with the classified documents

case because there are procedures that both parties need to go through to deal with classified materials. these materials though that are relevant to this case are not so burdensome as to require months and months of review. but it does take a little bit longer than most cases. so, if they were to make an argument that it should stretch into next year before the trial begins, that would be a much more reasonable argument. this is not a reasonable argument. >> i understand the argument you make, that any other citizen would, this would go to trial at a certain date. there are those who argue though, that look, donald trump is not any other citizen. he is the leading candidate for the republican party, a major candidate who could become the next president. during a heated presidential campaign, is it good for the country, and right, that one of the main candidates would be on trial? >> well, i think the question of whether it's good for the country is separate from whether or not this motion

should be granted. the fact of the matter is, donald trump was under investigation long before he announced running for president. so, pause it this, anderson. let's say i'm under criminal, mastication i know, and here i am a congress. and i decide, i'm gonna declare my candidacy for the president. does that mean that i cannot be prosecuted, because i've declared myself a candidate for president? no, of course not. the doj regulations stipulate that a sitting president cannot be indicted because of a variety of reasons related to the importance of that job. a candidate for president does not have a job that is any more important than anyone else in america. and he's not above the law as a candidate, nor is any candidate for elective office. and he must sit trial as any other american citizen would. that is the rule of law in this country, no one is above the law, not even donald trump. >> chris wray, the fbi director, has contested on the house judiciary committee tomorrow.

now according to the committee, it's going to quote, examine the politicization's of the nations preeminent law enforcement agency under raised leadership. we should note that wray is a republican, who was appointed by former president trump. i'm wondering what your expectations are for the hearing. >> look, i think the republicans have made this their general purpose in this congress. where they want to undermine the credibility of the fbi, because of its investigation into donald trump. and because perhaps of unsophistication into other members of the house. that has been their approach this entire congress, and i think they view this opportunity to continue to do that. this has been part of an authoritarian effort to undermine the democratic institutions, that uphold accountability and our separation of powers in this country. and, the republican congress has made it very clear, that in order to do donald trump's bidding, they want to undermine the credibility of the fbi. and i expect them to go full bore, to try to do that

tomorrow. >> congressman goldman, thank you for your time. >> thank you. >> with us now, cnn legal analyst elliott williams. elliot, what do you make of this effort by the former president's attorneys to delay the trial? >> you know anderson, there is a problem here, and that is whenever a defendant is accused of a crime, a number rights are attached that defended. and prosecutors have to be very, very careful when it comes to pushing back on things like trial dates, or whether somebody or who their counsel's, and so on. because those are the kinds of things that can actually lead to conviction being thrown out down the road. so, yes, he very well is trying to delay this case. but you have to be very careful as a prosecutor to not at least give the appearance of overstepping and getting in the way of it defendants right to have a fair trial. >> the trump team brings up discovery throughout the filings as a reason for delaying the trial, which is the process of gathering evidence to prove the case. how long would discovery in a

case like this typically take? >> you know, congressman golden was exactly correct, which is that it is a classified documents case. discoveries gonna take several months, and probably longer than a firearm or drug possession case or something like that. but the idea that a classified documents case would necessarily have to be delayed until 2024, or 2025 or beyond, is simply nonsense. yes, you will need to have time, the judge and lawyers can sit down and hash out a inappropriate time for the trial to be held. but the idea that it can possibly be held prior to 2024 election just makes no sense. >> how long does judge cannon have to make a decision? could she do it at anytime? >> she could at anytime. i mean, the thing with being a federal judge is that they operate on their own timeline and their own schedule. now look, as a defendant, he is entitled to a speedy trial. and so, the judge can be for delaying the former presidents trout indefinite into the

future. but again, she's not under, she doesn't have a deadline by which he has to rule on any one motion. >> if she does decide to delay the trial, does the doj have any recourse? >> well, at that point, you don't have a ton of recourse to challenge individual rulings by a judge on things like scheduling. now, as the congressman said a moment ago, she's already ruled in the case in a number of observers, including the justice department, have found to take issue with her ruling. and perhaps, they could make an argument that she made a a ruling that's impermissibly political, and just was outside the bounds of making a mistake on the law, and is trying to get it removed from the case. they could try to do that, but again, she has a pretty wide latitude as a trial judge to set the date at a time that she thinks is appropriate. >> elliott williams, thanks very much. coming up next, senator tommy tuberville's quickly evolving views on white nationalists, racism, and the military. perspective from a decorated military veteran and a fellow senator. and later, the flood damage

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tuberville had told radio station when asked if white nationalist should be allowed the military, and said, i call them americans. then, during last night's state of the -- cnn's kaitlan collins asked the senator to clear for this marks. here's what he said >> i'm totally against anything to do with racism. but, the thing about being a white nationalist, is just a cover word for the democrats now or they could use it to treating people mad across the country. i'm totally against that. but i'm for the american people, and i'm for military, and i'm for christian conservatives, democrats who whoever wants to be in the military to fight for this country, and protect this country. that's what it's all about. >> but just to be clear, you agree that white nationalist should not be serving in. the u.s. military is that what you're saying >> if people think a white nationalist is a racist, i agree with that. >> a white nationalist is company >> there's not a period two other races. >> that somebody's opinion. i don't think that. >> that's not an opinion. >> what's your opinion? >> my opinion of a white

nationalist -- if somebody wants to call them a white nationalist is an american. it's an american. white nationalists is a racist, i'm totally against anything they want to do. i am 110% against racism. >> i was senator last night, here is today. >> can you explain why you continue to insist that white nationalists are american? >> i'm totally against racism. if the democrats want to say that white nationalists are racist, and totally against that to. >> that's not a democratic definition. the definition -- >> that your definition. >> that is the definition. >> next question. next question. racism is -- racism is totally out of question. >> do you believe the white nationalists are racist? >> yes. if that's what a racist, is yes. thank you. >> it was this morning, by afternoon he seemed to say more explicitly, telling reporters off camera, quote, white

nationalists are racist. in a testimony before the january 6th committee by the national consortium for the study of terrorism and responses to terrorism, white nationalism is a significant problem in the ranks. this evening, i talked about with senator tammy duckworth, a wounded combat veteran and democratic senator from illinois. >> senator duckworth, thanks for being with us. as a person of color, as a combat veteran, how do you feel when you heard senator tuberville make those comments about white nationalism in the military? >> well, i was incredulous, and i check to make sure that he actually said it. and i cannot believe that he would think that white nationalists were not racist. in fact, i think that it is an insult to our military men and women of all different backgrounds who wear the uniform of this great nation. and we should be focusing on supporting them, and not defending white nationalists, as he's doing. >> i mean, do you think he's truly ignorant of what white nationalism means, what it is, or is it some sort of, some sort of a game where just kind

of a head nod to something? >> i can only take him at his word. and he said that, you know, he didn't think that white nationalists were racist. i mean, that's an actual dictionary definition. and frankly, that is a disservice to our men and women in uniform. >> he did say finally this afternoon, quote, white nationalists are racists. do you think he's seen the light? >> i highly doubt it. i think he's been put under a lot of pressure. but still, for him to even say it in the first place is wrong. we should be focusing on military men and women, who are deployed all over the world now, protecting and defending this great nation, and in harm's way. and this just undermines our nations national security and so many ways. and he's injuring our military in more ways than one, not just with this remark. >> well, what you're referring to, which is what we've been reporting on, as he's been blocking hundreds of military promotions, high-ranking officers among them, for his objection to the pentagon's policy of paying for travel for service members who are seeking

abortion, not paying for an abortion itself, the procedure, but for travel at the -- the stage where the procedure is essentially a legal. he told kaitlan collins last fight that is hold is not hurting military readiness or recruiting. and if it was, he would not be doing it. do you buy that? >> he's wrong. and you cannot just take my word for it, but you can take the word of former secretaries of defense, a bipartisan group have come forward and said that he's wrong, military officers have come forward and said he's wrong. for the first time in our nation's history, for the first time in over 100 years, the marine corps is not gonna have a commandant of the marine corps front of this hold. and by the way, it's not just about abortion, the pentagon policy is if a service member needs to seek reproductive health care because they're station in a state where they don't have access to it, they will reimburse them for the travel, not for the procedure, for their travel. so, you could be like me, someone who had to leave to go get ivf, for example, and he's injecting his personal agenda are into military readiness.

and this problem is only going to get worse the longer he maintains this hold. >> kaitlan collins pointed out to him that, you know, these former secretaries of defense had signed this letter saying this is hurting. he said, well, they're just nominees, he's an elected official, elected by the people of alabama. what he also did not say is that he's never been in the military before, i believe his father was, which was understandably very proud of, but he has not served. and yet, he's telling these former secretaries of defense that they don't know what they're talking about. >> he's also telling all the military officers, including those who are currently serving who have told him this is hurting in the military. you know, when you have an acting commander at whatever level, that acting commander cannot issued certain orders. and at a time when we have troops that are in harm's way, defending and protecting our nation, to have commanders, the commandant not have a commandant of the marine corps that can exercise his full duties as commandant is destructive to this nation's

national security. and it all is laid at senator tuberville's feet. >> what do you think is going to take his hold on military nominations? >> i don't know. either you have to talk to senator tuberville. he's been offered all sorts of off-ramps for this. he was offered a vote on senator ernst's bill, which is actually a much more stringent one, any rejected that. he's been offered many other options by his own leadership, and he's rejected them all. and you know, he's fundraising off of this. so, i suspect there's more than just his own personal concerns for why he's taking this position. >> are you surprised more republicans have not spoken out against what he's doing? because i mean, they're pro-military history? >> well, you know what, i wish more than would speak out. i know they had many conversations with them. now, listen, the republican leader mcconnell has spoken out and said that he does not support this. so, i don't think you can have more influential republican and the leader of their own caucus in the senate. and yet, he's rejected that. >> yeah, senator duckworth, i appreciate your time. >> thank you. >> now an increase --

exclusive cnn investigation to why it is 500 days into russia's invasion of ukraine, illegal sanctions that followed, big companies are still allegedly doing business in russia after saying they would pull out. more from cnn's tom forward. >> when russia marched into ukraine, hundreds of companies from other nations announced plans to march out of moscow, hitting vladimir putin's government in the pocketbook and hobbling his war effort. but one year, 4.5 months after the invasion, some others are still doing brisk business in russia, according to yale professor jeffrey seinfeld. >> these are companies that said they're leaving, and then reneged, say oh, it's too much trouble. it's wartime profiteering, and it is actually aiding, sadly, helping to fuel putin's war machine. >> his research finds although many companies followed through on their pledges, taking millions of dollars out of russia, some big players did not. among them, heineken. [screaming] sonnenfeld

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>> -- washington whistleblower has gotten straighter at the man he questioned, his name is -- and his current whereabouts are unknown. he disappeared in cypress. he jumped bail, and is now a fugitive. republicans call him a credible informed in the house oversight committee investigation on hunter biden. that much we have, known but now things have taken another turn in the justice department. it has unsealed an indictment against him, alleging he is among other things, an arms dealer, and an unregistered agent for china, and that he lied for -- cnn's kara scannell has been following this trial. so, carrie, who is this guy,

what is he being charged? >> yes, his name is gao loft, and you the u.s. israeli citizen, someone who's a co-director of an energy think tank. and what prosecutors said, when they unsealed this indictment late yesterday, they alleged that he's involved in numerous crimes involving a lot of crimes overseas. they say that he was acting as an agent of china here in the u.s., and had registered as that. he is also a broker of illicit arms deals, and he was trying to be a matchmaker to help the sale of iranian oil, something which would violate u.s. sanctions. and they also say that he lied when he was interviewed by the fbi. >> and what's his relationship to hunter biden? >> so, luft claims he has incriminating information about the biden family's business dealings overseas, particularly with china. and that has made him somewhat of interest to republicans, who have said that he is an informant, he's a potential top witness, as they are looking to investigate the biden family business dealings overseas. >> and now, yet, he's being charged with being an agent of

china. >> yeah, that's right, and what's even more confusing here is that he was doing work, according to the u.s. authorities, with this chinese conglomerate, and that is the same conglomerate that he says was doing business with the bidens. >> and has he responded, or, how is he responded? >> yeah, so, the other funny thing here is he was initially arrested on cypress on these charges, and while he was waiting extradition, he jumped bail. so, he's now considered a fugitive by the u.s. government. but at the time in february, he did tweet out a denial of these investigations -- allegations, in which he said i've been arrested in cyprus on a politically motivated extradition request by the u.s.. the u.s. claiming i'm an arms dealer, it would be funny if it weren't tragic. i have never been an arms dealer. doj is trying to bury me to protect you, jim, and hunter biden. shall i name names? his lawyer also saying, telling us after these charges are unsealed, that this is a vicious attempt to silence a witness. >> but he's in the wind, he's nowhere to be found? >> he's in the wind. we don't know where he is.

he has been active on twitter, retweeting comments by one of the senators, who has been supportive of him. but he has not shown his face, and there's no indication if he is going to come to the u.s. to face these charges. >> there's also this letter obtained by cnn from the u.s. attorney overseeing the hunter biden criminal probe that seems to undercut a number of the claims made by an irs whistleblower. >> right, so, that irs whistleblower testified before congress, saying that david weiss, the trump-appointed u.s. attorney for delaware, had told him and others in october of 2022 that he had requested special counsel status, which would've enabled him to bring criminal charges anywhere in the u.s., and at wife had told him, the west poplar at the time, that he was denied that by the top justice department officials. why is, in this letter to congress here is trying to clarify the record here. he never asked to be special, counsel all -- he has to be a special attorney, which is different under the statute. he says he was assured to bring

charges any jurisdiction, but ultimately he did negotiate this plea deal with hunter biden where he did plead guilty to those two tax misdemeanors later this month. >> here's gonell, appreciate, very much. some perspective now from -- andrew mccabe, who's now cnn senior law enforcement analyst. i mean, so, the primary witness, or one of the primary witnesses in the hunter biden saga is now a fugitive and charged with, among other, things arms trafficking. what are we to make of this? >> well, what a complicated story to try to weave through. but i think it's important to remember that he is potentially a witness for the committee. this is not the way that we typically think of witnesses as people that are testifying in criminal trials. he's actually a defendant in a criminal matter. but it's also important to note that the case that the government has brought against gal luft is very, very serious. contrary to his public statements, he has not been charged simply with a lying to the federal government. he has been charged with violating u.s. sanctions

against iran, he has not been charged with acting as an illicit arms broker between countries like china and iran, and other countries. these are very serious offenses. a also clear from the statements from the u.s. attorney and the southern district of new york, they have, in some form, his communications. they've quoted things that he's said to people, referring to arms as toys, and things like that. that means this is a very complicated, probably long running investigation in which they either had access to his historical communications through court authorized access, or potentially even title three coverage electronic surveillance of his communication. this is not just a simple case that the government cooked up after they interviewed him and did not like what they said. this is likely the result of a very long and complicated investigation. >> is it possible that it is

politically motivated, as luft is calling it? >> i suppose that's possible. i find it to be highly unlikely. the justice department, contrary to some people's beliefs, the justice department and fbi do not initiate cases against people for political reasons. as i indicated, this is not a case that simply is turned on an interview that the way that the government did not want. this is a case that probably came from months and months, maybe years of investigations of this individual for very serious offenses, from violating the foreign agents registration act, to arms dealing, and all kinds of other matters. there is a lot more to this than just that one interview that he allegedly had with the government that apparently did not go well. >> and lastly, i talk to congressman dave goldman about this, but what do you think of the fbi director chris wray going to testify before the house judiciary committee

tomorrow? >> this is a very important piece of oversight of the fbi. and it just happens on an annual basis. there are many other significant and reasonable questions that the house should have for the fbi director at this moment in time. questions about the way that the fbi prepared or did not for january 6th. questions about how the fbi has handled their efforts to inform the pfizer process. all kinds of really legitimate things. unfortunately, i think it's highly unlikely that any of this serious and reasonable legitimate oversight issues have come up, probably evolving into another version of the weaponization of the fbi, an effort towards congressman to, like jim jordan, to propagate this myth of the fbi somehow biased against republicans. that is laughable. i expect that is what we'll see

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>> it's a message for the capitol, historic and catastrophic flooded has forced evacuations. drone footage showing the devastation for block after block, after intense rains for a couple of days now. several parts of the state facing raging waters, bringing

drivers and other residents danger. on the scene, cnn's miguel marquez. >> we're not out of the woods. this is nowhere near over. >> reservoirs meant to control flooding, overflowing north of vermont's capital, the dam inches from overflowing. it could've done even more water into the already swollen river. receding slowly in some places, and other parts of the state still an alert. downtown montpellier, state street. a fast moving river, it completely unpassable, with the water lapping at the state house. water rescues continuing over 100 so far -- and staying in an airbnb. their family, the hosts, and the family dog, harley, evacuating. >> you are just not sure what's going to happen? >> look how strong the current

is. it's pretty strong. if we can knock a few branches off, imagine what it could do to a house. we're just playing it safe. >> you weren't sure if it was going to keep rising? >> we didn't know. we're not from here, we don't know what the weather is like. i've never seen anything like this. it's been pretty crazy. >> the water was rising quickly. after being pretty tame for most of the morning. all of a sudden, it was in the house. >> rainfall for weeks on end, saturating the state. the results, the water only had one place to go, over land. washing away roads, causing massive property damage, and putting people like john hancock out of their homes. >> sir, you are wet from head to toe without any shoes on. you last year she's getting across here? >> yes. i could not find a rope, so i took two heavy duty extension cords, tied them over there,

into the back of the truck. >> extreme weather, the new american and global normal. oklahoma city, drenched with life-threatening rainfall. flooding, only the beginning of extreme heat baking other parts of the country. the national weather service warns that parts of the southwest could hit all-time heat records later this week. >> miguel, what are water conditions like there now? >> eerie. we are right downtown montpelier right now. this is main and state street. the alarms going off, about 24 hours, a let you listen for a second. they are alarming to nothing. the water line, we're about to watch from the river. this is the bookstore, everything in this book story is destroyed. there is some people already starting to pull something out of this, trying to recover, but

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>> tonight, new details on the manhunt for an escape pennsylvania. invite michael vanished last thursday, this afternoon is a police said they believe he is likely still in the area around teachable. he is probably getting help. cnn's brian todd has more. >> we are still finding some autumns that we believe are connected to him. those lead me to believe that there is the likelihood he is here. >> authorities now say michael burrow escaped by climbing on its equipment on the jails rooftop jim last thursday. then, using these bedsheets, tied together to repel it down from the roof, to this portico.

he then allegedly jumped down and fled on foot. the sheriff tonight disputing suggestions that he got a big head start. >> literally, i would say that -- soul red and blue lights within two minutes of leaving the trail. they were that close. >> --, aged 34, is considered armed and dangerous and wanted in cases double the murder, kidnapping, carjacking and, arson. authorities describe him as a self taught survivalist with military experience. >> we have had a number of students reported, none of those have panned out. >> he was last seen wearing an orange and white striped jumpsuit, denim jacket, and crocs. more than 200 low enforcement officers are now involved in the manhunts. >> i have a strong belief that he is receiving help. >> authorities say they found a small stockpiles, or campsites, they believe her associate with him in surrounding wooded areas. >> that suggests he escaped the prison, he goes on the run, he knows where he is going, these locations where food and supplies and -- are waiting for him.

>> how might he --? >> they are going to try to close off that help. and make him do something like, i've gotta still occur, i've got to break into a house and get some food or a weapon, or keys to a car. they've got to force him -- they've got to force him out of the woods. >> it is his second time on the run. in may, he alerted authorities for two weeks. officials say he kidnapped an elderly couple at gunpoint, made them drive him to north charleston, south carolina, and drove off in their car. authorities telling residents to avoid engaging if they see him and lock up. >> every night, make sure the windows are locked, make sure both doors, front and back, are locked. >> brian todd joins us from warren, pennsylvania. he's been on the loose for almost a week. what are authorities saying about his particular skill set that makes it difficult for them? >> anderson, one of the things that make this manhunt compelling is both sides have a lot of advantages and disadvantages on their side. the police advantages, of

course, pretty obvious. they've got over 200 officers on the hunt. they've got helicopters, dna technology that they are using. they've got assets they're not really telling us much about. we have got to those things their advantage. michael burnham has serious advantages of his own. number one, he apparently had a plan, according to police that he wanted to get into the woods, he had a plan to get into the woods, even before he escaped. he was planning this out. number two, they've strongly believed that people are helping burham. possibly, at least campsites, where they might have found some traces of where he was, people might have left things for him and maybe they're laying out other areas for him to go to. another advantage that he has, he is a survivalist. he is trained himself on how to deal with these conditions out in these woods. another advantage, anderson, that he has, got the allegheny national force adjacent to where we are is about 800 square miles. if he knows that area fairly well, and we don't have any reason to believe that he doesn't, that is a series advantage he has, and he's been

gone for five days, anderson. one thing we do have to say is that the police are asking people with information about michael burham, if you have seen him or, maybe, talked to people who've seen them, to call their command post. here is the number, 717, 265, 9650. that is the command post near where we are in warren, pennsylvania. they are relying on a lot of help from the public. >> brian todd, appreciate it. joining me now, former fbi assistant director, chris smoker. chris, are you surprised authorities found items believed to be connected to this guy, leading them to believe he is in the area? >> not shocked. i mean, listen, with a lot of interest to the statement that authorities thought he had some help, that would have been help before he escaped in setting up these campsites and supplying them. i'm curious why, if they were in a position to help, if he was in a position to set up that assistance, why he chose to stay on the force and not get picked up in a car, get out of the area.

so, that may lend some credence to the fact the sheriff is saying they're hot on his trail when he shortly after escaped. the advantage, really, is to the man hunters, if you will, if he is, in fact, in the force. that is where i would rather have him in the forest than out in the open at large, in a position to carjack or invade homes, and harm people. >> when you hear details about how he escaped, tying up sheets, sliding down from a window, it is like you see in movies. are you surprised by how straightforward it was? >> yeah, i mean, we've seen this, down mora, other prison escapes, most recently a person escape where they just rattled the locks on the door that were deficient. i hate to say it, sheriffs jails can be pretty lucky sometimes. they aren't well funded, complacency stetson, guards are not well paid, administrators are not well paid. i'm never shocked to hear

someone escaped from a sheriff's prison or a state facility sometimes. you know, again, i go back to this issue of complacency. this only happens when you are complacent. when you are not red teaming yourself, and trying to imagine how escapes could take place, this seemed too easy. >> also, i mean, authorities, i assume, would have access to, kind of, a list of people he had been in contact with while in the system, wouldn't they? >> absolutely. that is the first thing you do in a fugitive investigation. you go, back you slide time back to before he was incarcerated, and you construct his social network, if you will, his contacts one at a time when he was not planning crimes or planning to escape. these would be the people, these are his go-to people, if you will. one by one, they are -- the u.s. marshals and pennsylvania state police are cutting off those contacts, maybe someday might leave open, in hopes he would contact them

and lead them to him. there is a cat-and-mouse situation with a manhunt like this. the u.s. marshals are very good at it. it is pretty much all they do. the pennsylvania state police, they've been through the struggle for. i'm sure they're getting the help of national park rangers as we did in the rudolph investigation in north carolina. they know their area much better than he does. >> in national parks, are there a lot of cameras put out along trails? >> there are trail cameras. you know, there are video surveillance cameras on road access areas. it is not covered like you would in an urban area. there are access points that are covered by video. you know, i hope he is still in that national forest. i think the advantage, again, goes to law enforcement authorities and the man hunt. they can set up more trail cameras, they can create a

broad parameter, and slowly, sort of, constrict that perimeter down and contain him in that area so he can harm people while they're trying to catch him. >> chris, i appreciate your time tonight, thank you. still ahead, long battle over aretha franklin's estate has come to an end. the focus was on able found under a suffocation in her house. the jury's verdict, next. so, ask your doctor about botox®. botox® prevents headaches in adults with chronic migraine before they even start. it's the #1 prescribed branded chronic migraine treatment. so far, more than 5 million botox® treatments have been given to over eight hundred and fifty thousand chronic migraine patients. effects of botox® may spread hours to weeks after injection causing serious symptoms. alert your doctor right away, as difficulty swallowing, speaking, breathing, eye problems, or muscle weakness can be signs of a life-threatening condition. side effects may include allergic reactions, neck and injection site pain, fatigue, and headache. don't receive botox® if there's a skin infection. tell your doctor your medical history, muscle or nerve conditions and medications, including

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