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grilled republican fbi director is there evidence for their allegations i will ask the republican former u.s. attorney who recommended him for the job of presidential candidate chris christie joins us. later ray apps the -- 6th protests are now in hiding after right-wing media painted him as an fbi so we have a lot of plant. his people taking, ship attorney joins me to talk about the obviously no one is lawsuit they've just flying into out of chicago right now filed against fox news. and the good, evening the breaking news incoming threat for starts us off tonight. new tornadoes. and again, word that another top state these two areas circled out election official has spoken with federal prosecutors in connection with former presidents efforts to overturn the election. she is jocelyn benson, michigan secretary of state. she now joins her georgia counterpart, brad raffensperger, former arizona republican lawmaker, rusty bowers, and to nevada republican party officials, in talking to jack smith's team. cnn's evan perez joins us now with more. so, what have you learned about secretary of state benson's interview with jack smith? >> anderson, what's important about this interview, but we now see a pattern of the smith team, the special counsel's team, going through all of the states, the key

states, that there was this effort by the former president and his allies to try to overturn those elections and try to perhaps seat these fake electors. so, what we know, sources telling zak cohen, she sat with the smith team for several hours in recent weeks. and we know that, as you pointed out, they've already talked to state officials in georgia, in nevada, in arizona. so, you can see that this is an effort by the special counsel to try to figure out exactly whether there's a crime here, that was committed in that effort, not only to overturn the state elections, but also to perhaps get access to voting machines. that's one of the things that jocelyn benson's office turned over. they turned over documents and evidence. that indicated there were people connected to rudy giuliani, who were trying to get access to voting machines in episodic county, in michigan. again, we don't know whether this is something that is going to end up being charged as a crime. it's something that is clear, the special counsel is diving deep into. evan there's new court filings in a defamation lawsuit that we haven't heard much about lately. it's a defamation lawsuit brought by those 2

georgia election workers, against really giuliani. one of the court filings? >> that's right. this is a defamation lawsuit that, not only against giuliani, and others. but what's key here, the legal team for those 2 georgia election workers produced some evidence that they had obtained from rudy giuliani and some of his allies. one of the key things here, anderson, it shows that giuliani and again, people connected to former president trump, we're not really interested in checking out these claims of voter fraud. what they simply wanted to do, is make those claims and try to make them stick. so, here's an example, which is a text message from boris epstein, who is a and continues to be very close to the former president. here's what he says in the text message. urgent police, requested need best examples of election fraud, that we've alleged that super easy to explain. he continues, doesn't necessarily have to be proven, just needs to be easy to understand, is there any sort of greatest hits clearinghouse that anyone has 4 best examples? again, an indication that they weren't really trying to make sure that these were proven examples of what they claimed

was fraud, they just wanted to build a make those claims, again, as part of this broader effort, not only to overturn these state election results, but again, to give reason to congress and perhaps to state legislatures, to have their fake electors. be seated. again, overturn the victory of joe biden. >> all right, evan perez, thank so much. the fbi director is uncomfortable on capitol hill, ever since the former president lashed onto attacking the fbi, and justice department. as a way of deflecting the numerous allegations against him. and investigations around him, he's had help from republican lawmakers in the house. ever since january, or republicans gained control of the house, and began holding hearings on what they call the weaponization of government. >> they've made fbi director, christopher we really got wray, something of a nemesis. unity and the leaders supported ukraine. today, it came to a

head. cnn's sara ukraine will be murray reports on his in nato. defense, and the bureau and his >> meanwhile, criticism of the man who appointed him. beijing responded strongly tornadoes accusation that china challenges to >> thank, you good morning, block interest on chairman jordan, ranking security. best statement from member now. nato was they're members of the committee.

issued halfway through its 2-day summit and beijing says the organization is >> fbi director christopher pulling distorting china's policy no position and but it is punches in critiquing, in fact, former president trump sloppy retention of classified documents. a military >> i don't want to be block that is commenting on the pending case. i will say, there are reacting specific rules about where to through its position. store classified information, and that those need to be >> they

have gone stored in a skiff, a secured beyond the compartmentalize information geographical scope, facility. stipulated by its own in my experience, ballrooms, treaty unexaggerated bathrooms and bedrooms or not into the asia skiff's. pacific. it has claimed to be insisting in the wake of a defensive alliance but it encourages its hundred migrants pleat deal on members to constantly increase tax, charges the bureau is not military spending, flex their protecting the biden family. muscles and provoke >> are you protecting the biden? confrontation in the asia >> absolutely not. pacific region. >> the fbi -- china's >> you won't answer the ministry of foreign question. affairs >> you will enter the caution about whether not -- added that china has >> anticipating some of the the best record of any behavior, outlined in special major power counsel john durham's probe.. for more on the key which documented missteps by takeaways from the

summit i the fbi, in its investigation am joined by thomas gale, he's the president of the international capital corporation on global investment banking company. good to see you and welcome to the show. into the 2016 trump campaign's ties with russia. >> i consider the conduct that was described in the durham there's a lot report as totally unacceptable. on representative of what i to digest, there see from the fbi every day, it clearly a lot of it is must never be allowed to happen political in china's refuting again. a weighing, or rebutting in a way for what nato >> ray, however, stood by the said search at trump's marlowe. is very interesting because at the >> i would not call the raid, outcoach the execution of a same time, they have not lawful search warrant. taken necessarily >> and defended the fbi spray a side in this can file in the threats in the conflict with ukraine but wake of that search. clearly there is a side when it comes to nato. >> we did stand up a whole >> dedicated unit to focus on threats to fbi individuals, absolutely fbi employees, and fbi, i think that china's not only concerned about nato in nato's present form but the facilities. indo othat welliance that h strengthening and being saw. encouraged, over that time period. obviously by the wray facing off against united st of his toughest congressional crii cawh outside of nato's an political bias. original mission. it is >> people trust of the fbi when a bit confusing as to j edgar hoover was running a where that is leading. i can place, then when you are. understand beijing's >> respectfully, congressman, concern. >> there was in your home state of florida, chatter as you the number of people applying know to come work for us and devote why nato their lives working for us is was formed to begin with. to up over 100 percent. prevent another country from being aggressive. and in >> were deeply proud of them. this particular case they deserve better than you. if you look at what russia has done >> all as democrats took shots, russia's at their gop colleagues. plan was to decrease >> we are here today because or minimize the influencer maga republicans will do size of nato but anything to protect donald in fact ultimately, the outcome trump, they're savior. has been

the opposite and no matter how unfounded or china is watching over this, dangerous it may be to do so. they certainly have their opinions as to what is happening in >> russia when it comes to nato. >> correct. democrats also needling this is traditionally chairman, obviously jim jordan, the unintended for once defying a subpoena in the house january 6th investigation. consequences from >> putin and getting quite rich to to new countries admitted me that you're and i hearing all of these understand why allegations from nato does not somebody who won't even respond to a lawful subpoena. want to and will >> not include sarah, chris ukraine at this time wray also. tackled head on whether the but fbi has reference -- obviously once the conflict has whether he's biased. what did he say?

doesn't mean that there might unlike the be at times flying individual fbi agents who go rogue. tigers, where the that happens. u.s. came to the support of china, 30,000 employees at the fbi. so, and some 10 their pilots chris wray can't make sure that and aircraft everyone, every to defeat the japanese. >> day follows the rules so i impeccably. guess that there has but what he's been precedents done is when they step out given that it was also of line, a very long time ago there discipline so i do not want for. >> do you see any evidence that the attorney general, to get up too much. but here's merrick garland, my other thing or president biden has weaponized premiere of justice?. the fighting in >> i ukraine is mostly in the don't know about the attorney general. east and the south. some neighbors are concerned the i don't ones to the north and to buy the president either. i the west could say this, i'm concerned about the hunter biden situation. i are less affected. think that u.s. some have said attorney weiss why not have has some explaining to do. another i did, this as organization you, know for put 7 years. in boots on the it should not take ground

bit 5 years to controversial to do it to count provide misdemeanor tax plea, security guarantees and then to dismiss a gun for the charge. cities that are so, what happened currently there? what were they doing all those 5 years? the engaged in the conflict tax cases are pretty and that would allow simple, direct ukraine to use cases. with somebody areas or says like hunter biden. to where it is i don't know that amounts to weaponization or not, i needed most. >> understand, but it certainly should lead boots on the ground is us to ask some questions. i always a very hard line to cross because think either mr. weiss or you cannot come back merrick garland has gotta against it. and i think come up to the hill and enter some questions >> that you said you would keep that sends a new chris wray on the message to job, when i talk to moscow a month and have to, go still the? as for the case >> escalation, yes. >> and how in the that will be perceived and how that will be former president attacked you online early this reacted to. morning, i guess it that was, a number of does accusations against. complete, there's a lot of you just pick, when concern i have on he said you, quote, that definitely wanted to the join the trump escalation administration, but i said no. end quote. >> may be, no, completely but that may ridiculous. let me be a reasonable step to explain. not anybody be surprised that donald take and that is provocative trump is not telling the, putting it truth when it serves him, into the ukrainian he offered me

territory. but it will send twice, secretary of homeland a message nonetheless. security, -- >> >> he i think that everyone offered you? twice >> secretary that we've spoken of labor. >> the army white house chief of staff. to would like >> i said no each time. this conflict and as quickly >> there were reports you want to be attorney general? as possible, i'm >> i would've consider sure in that camp as being attorney general at the well, beginning of the administration. appreciate your analysis on i would have. it wasn't offered to me. this development. thank you. >> very nice to and, because talk to you. >> to me, the attorney general is the fantastic most independent conversation. we now position inside the administration if, you do it the right way. turn to indonesia where top southeast asian diplomats have i think bill barr did at the right way. gathered to discuss key issues and showed it, and showed how to do it. impacting the region and the items on the also, let's not agenda forget, he also been be chairman of the presidents for the block include a nuclear commission on opioid and drug abuse. power and china's i did take that position, because obviously i care about that issue. belt and road initiative and executed for him.. we have more. >> just, on its face, italy. as the asean foreign because i minister was a part of the continues, the administration crisis by running that >> or, are talking do you think his lawyers arguments are reasonable? and impressions are

still >> it's hard to tell. here's the tough part of it. ongoing. the >> previously, classified document thailand held involved, a separate meeting to your if they stay tackle the classified, crisis. you're going to have to get asean member states people cleared, attended but on his defense team. some key members and otherwise, chose to opt out experts singling -- >> a divided asean. >> one of the reason they, race raising these i think documents. >> right, it that the depends on how many those documents action can be used as important issue here evidence. and how long that's is that asean going to. take that could be a lengthy is quite process. that's why divided i would've charge the case entirely differently. i and there just showed the obstruction. case i would've charge the are some documents. that, way the obstruction cases clean, asean member it appears countries which from the facts see allegedly indictment, very that prove-able. it still carry substantial is an criminal penalties for important issue it. i would've done in differently, taken out of place. i which asean think the judge is gonna look should very

carefully at those documents. and be committed how long she thinks it would take, reasonably, for to both sides to be its prepared. value december is still a long on the respect of human rights. and time. still got 6 months to get. ready how do you say -- for people with the best position to make that, judgment judge a more cannon. i'm confident or make the right strict decision. >> do you and think the president, the former, president out the clock. >> of course. >> more consistent in that by putting more pressure oh, yeah no doubt about. on the look, his military agenda. fantasy situation is that >>, this doesn't go to trial every before the election. another key topic on the agenda is nuclear powered somehow, he gets reelected president., as southeast asia as the and then they won't be able to try him while he sitting in the white house. region to be nuclear free. >> no weapons are more powerful and that'll get destructive delayed, another 4 years. than nuclear >> he'll be 82 years weapons. -- reward them old, and with with his performances and they may just, you know, he hopes just walk away from. nuclear weapons we are continuously as only a professional. this is >> how concerned you think you 8 ever one miscalculation should be about the appearance for the away special counsel united states from about being this evening. apocalypse indicted again in the 2020 election case? >> and global he should catastrophe. be concerned, when you look at it from your therefore, we must keep report, the depth of the southeast asia investigation is being done, obviously being taken very seriously. free of nuclear being done methodically. weapons. >> whenever that happens, asean has been working to you have to be get a nuclear

powered a little bit on states to agree guard. i think should be on keeping the concerned about the case, is region nuclear pending against him free but only right now. beijing has shown an the allegations in, interest so far. they're regarding actual security documents, china's representatives as are set to join the chris wray said in his discussions testimony,. in are supposed to be economics expert maintained in a secure says that china's location. belt and road initiative could not at more along. be among the topics oh he lied about that. he lied discussed. >> about the whether he had more and documents or not. he hit them from his own not only in lawyers. as indonesia, alleged in the but thailand indictment. -- so possession. can they also, hello to suggesting that if there's some create something dangerous influence the country out of it? bad documents in, they're just pull them out before they ferreira has to be more effective turn them to the government. i been back in mean, it for vazquez, get support of is a classic an awkward touch to. the it >> stu: -- members of asean. obstruction case. it's a bit of >> and the coming i think you should be a shove there days, other major concerned about, that from, cummings, powers including if he takes a case which, this is the united states a part vazquez of's like that to trial, and russia are also set to join

the meetings. which i think he has been very good at, which in loses, there's is getting his body in cgtn, a presumption of jail time. good spots, and using >> his frame to jakarta. >> you've indicated that control defenders next up, you if your president, you would. at times, inflation in the consider commuting a little off balance. i don't u.s. cooling down, the in a sentence if he was know if it was either the bounce question, is it found guilty. of the ball that maybe enough for the fed? can you talk about that, caught him a little we will talk about that coming up. why?? >> i would consider. off-guard -- there was a nice ball in in initially. and that can i am concerned. sometimes be an entry point for the about the united states in the attacking part idea of any president of the united states going to prison. of the field. >> john: -- rolls it wide. gets it back i think we've gotta think about that very carefully. in. and aníbal godoy he's scooping across i don't think for davis. reynolds, a pardon would necessarily be appropriate, given what i know today. mistimed the jump. davis cutting it back. and that was >> particularly, displayed to get the tv you love: satellite or internet and that show you pretend not to love. look, if you want to watch people eat bugs in the woods, that's your thing, baby. switch today for a $200 reward card.

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there under you said this ins. s it. at least the data comes out but 200 unique donors purse, early in the morning, it's just enough on this date in 20 states. new york times, about an to pop it up are you there yet? >> hour before in the air, and then yeah, i'm glad we have the this it's reynolds that hooks tell people, tonight even begins. anderson, last night, and of course, it came it away before a panamanian we went past attacking 40,000 unique in with headline rates player donors. in just of dead 3%, not overall almost got 35 days. 3. 1, and in on the end of it. to give you some the coal rate --

perspective, because iran of hoping for that years ago, 4. 8% and not in 35 days halftime whistle, 8 years, ago we had 5000 donors. 5%. the just to get trouble is that that is in and it over 40,000 donors now. not quite good enough. reset. the >> john: remember, we had central a hydration break. that will bank are going to be there be a couple extra minutes is a donor in every state in america. looking at that of stoppage core rate time. >> stu: of yeah. to we have over 200 donors and 36 states. 4. 8% and they are going me, you've got to readjust to be looking at the the way in which the average earnings from midfield can balance. really last week. either you go broad support for the candidacy, really thrilled about it. the jobs to flat report from the month of, and you june when it came in peel back the good news,, and those are the cowell i think, for the republican things that will drive their and ferreira or party, that decision about what to do about a little bit, or means i'm gonna be on the debate stage, on august 23rd. you have ferreira, the it. go goes they have and plays >> what about this loyalty to make that pledge? what does it 10 underneath decision say about the republican party, vazquez. but you have to give your team more. numbers in the wide they're and they areas, right decided now, where you are just trying to institute this loyalty pledge to getting overrun, overlay,, the very fact the time after that people are running concentrate on how against the time. they think july may be davies -- i don't think former president, would the first take that they've the united states have indicate that they don't think you should be the president. got in the cycle. made one tackle on the fed doesn't meet him this entire day. >> well, in august and they are but he is just

dropping i've said that i dimes in their continually. away think a loyalty pledges adele my dear. and will be back in but of september. the dad requirement to get on the stage. was up 1% of the nasdaq >> you 1. 1%. said i'll do ready to do to be on the stage. 7 tenths of 1% and >> i'll take it everybody seriously as all trump took it in 2016. 44 72 with >> john: 2 out of 11 sectors in the we all sign a pledge red. -- about in 2016, also, you may recall. the dog was up 2 thirds of the 300 points as possession in this at the game. its best next debate after will with the and the nasdaq and sign the pledge, s&p 500 hit u.s., more one of the questioner shots -- for 52 week highs during said, you all sign this the only save of the the day pledge, would you but they cooled game, officially, referred to neighboring off. the and cowell hit the ahead? none of us crypto arena, post o, cl p g me, and donald trump didn't. -- deeper might this bitcoin was down be, just have that he said, we'll see what happens. you signed it. one goal, just have that and 1. 4% and then one advantage in the opening well,

i'll see what happens. on tuesday 30 seconds, as jones gets it clear in front of bárcenas. >> what about the pledge in florida to get on the ballot. pepsico kicks off the >> i would treat at the same way. 2nd quarter >> earnings season and we get that in writing, does that make any difference? ppi, the cousin >> this was in writing to. of cpi. that is the i have actually signed data. a document. i mentioned the it's intercepted by cowell. document yet. it's cgtn, on the trading been represented to be on the floor of the new york document, all sign the stock exchange. document, because i think >> for vazquez -- and that was a really the most important promising moment. the more on this inflation thing, anderson, is to number, u.s. actually had be on the stage, to try to change our country. a 3 on 2 there. the contributor for -- >> stu: you know what that's a perfect example and i really good to see you of? brandon vazquez, believe, the best person to his ability to touch in again. are we there take on

-- what you think matters, and a lot of people think they know that is going to be, but let's take kansas for, instance kansas is a red state, very republican, conservative, state yet they voted for more pro-choice position. >> but you don't think a politician running should be pinned down on what they actually personally, you, know deeply held beliefs? >> well i'm pro-life, and that was take the position when i ran for governor, new jersey that i believe in exceptions or trace -- those should be exceptions that i respected in my state, and i thought it was the position that should be adopted throughout the country. but as we are now getting down to this, you know, this 20, weeks 15, weeks 12, weeks six weeks, what i want to see, is i want to see if a national consensus can be built by the states. that is the weight founders intended the system to work on issues that were not specifically talked about in the constitution.

this was not -- decided rightly, i think we are now seeing that great experiment happened throughout the states. what i would hope when i became president, is that all 50 states will have weighed in, and that we can get a national consensus, that we can get 60 votes to the u.s. senate. you can't get anything done in the u.s. senate without 60, votes and right now i think it is safe to say that whether it was six weeks, 12, 15, 20, you could not get 60 votes in the united states senate for any of that. let's let the states do their work. >> you talk about, economy spending, i wonder where you are different than then president biden on the economy, the latest numbers on consumer prices came in today, inflation fell to its lowest annual rate in more than two years. the administration got a lot of criticism -- >> now, the fed should get credit for that. the fed is the people who brought inflation down by raising interest rates. and, what that has also, done is to make it much more difficult and expensive to borrow money in this country which is tough on small

businesses throughout this country and individuals who want to buy their first home or first car. remember inflation has gone down this month, but over the course of the biden administration, it is still up 17%. while we just during that period of time have gone up 3%. so there is a 14% gap there that has been absorbed by the american people, and they feel at the supermarket, at the gas station, and they will feel it in august when they go to buy back to school clothes. these are things that affect real people. look, that is what killed jimmy carter's presidency was inflation. i believe it will do the same thing that lays waste to joe biden's presidency as well. >> it is no secret you are putting a lot on, new hampshire how well do you have to do in new hampshire? do you have a benchmark? >> well, i have to do well. look, you have to prove you can win someplace and certainly i would like to win new hampshire. i think if i came in second in new hampshire, that would be a good night as well. given where we started i'm in third place right now in new

hampshire, and all the recent polls, just a few points behind governor desantis. so, we are making progress in new hampshire, we will continue to make progress, that we work in south carolina as well. make progress in south carolina. >> is the race this time different than you expected it to be in anyway? >> yes. it is different and that i thought that more people would be out there articulating very clearly why donald trump would not be a good nominee -- >> you are certainly the most prominent, one asa hutchinson has been as well, but the other candidates are not. >> no, that's different. i don't know you beat a clear front-runner by donald trump without beating. >> what do you think they're expected to happen? >> i think they hope that somehow donald trump collapses. from the weight of all these criminal issues that he's got. and that when they haven't said anything negative about him, they're hoping to than inherit some portion of those voters that otherwise would vote for donald trump. i don't think that's the way

politics works. i think if a dominant front runner like donald trump were to drop out, what i don't expect that he will, i think that's a flawed thesis anyway, but if you were, that reshuffles the entire deck, i don't think anybody knows what happened. >> if you are one of the other challengers manages to defeat the former president, to get the nomination, what's the chance of him coming out and saying a primer is rigged? >> giving us, history is probably pretty good. i'll be a discredited figure fees defeated again. that will mean he lost in 2018. when he lost the house. in 2020 when he lost the white house. and lost united states senate for the republican party. in 2022, he lost tumor governorships. and another seat in the united states senate. and lead a horribly underperforming house majority of five seats. now, we'll have lost the primary 2020, for that makes him a four time loser. so, i think at that point, hill crime complain all he wants, which i'm certain he would, but in the end, i think the republican party will unite behind whoever wins the

primary. other than donald trump. i think that's what will happen. you >> do know that losers like the greatest insult for him? >> i don't know that. but what i will tell you is, it's true. here's what republican primary voters need, two things that need more than anything else. they need the truth. the truth matters. they haven't gotten the truth from either joe biden or from donald trump. secondly, they need results on the issues that they really care about. donald trump that you can repeal and replace obamacare republican congress, he failed. he said he was gonna build a wall, of course, the entire mexican border, he built 47 miles of new wall. new wall. 47 miles, in four years. at that pace, of 12 miles of your, he has to be president for another 50 years. to be able to build that entire wall. he said mexico's gonna pay, for not a paste from the mexicans on the. you also get about the budget. for years. he added six trillion to the national debt. those are all issues that republican voters care about. they need someone who deliver on those issues. i delivered on them in a blue state.

that prepares me to go down to congress, and help deliver them as president. >> governor kristi, appreciate time. >> appreciate it. >> up next, according to russian media, this former supreme commander was assassinated on a morning jog. the question is, why? and it is killer track his running track on a popular running app lead the killer to him. plus, reyes, the january 6th protester targeted a right-wing conspiracy theorists, his attorney joins me to talk about the lawsuit they just filed against fox news. ♪ the biggest ideas inspire new ones. 30 years ago, state street created an etf that inspired the world to invest differently.

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>> brazen and deadly attack in, russia the victim of a former summary commander shot and killed while jogging in a park. russian authorities released the surveillance video which appears to show him just before he was gunned down. cnn can't independently verify the video. according to russian media, i suspect is in, custody the commandoes alleged killer may have checked his location and a popular exercise app.

so, what more do we know about what happened? >> well, this is a former russian submarine commander, anderson, his name is stanislav merchants key. you could see from that video, he was in the southern city of -- when he was shot several times apparently, buy a gun men and the interesting thing about that apparent murder is that the rzhitsky was tracked on his running, up he took the number of times the same route, and the assassin most waiting alone in a park in that route when the killing took place. he is a former submarine commander, he commanded a russian submarine, off of the kind that is fired caliber cruise missiles at various locations inside ukraine over the course of the past year or so. one attack in particular on the

ukrainian town of -- is carried out by a submarine which stanislav rzhitsky was linked to. although, his family have said he took no part in the war in ukraine. actually, he had actually been decommissioned from the military, you know, relatively soon after the conflict took place. they say he had no part in it. nevertheless, he was linked to it. a nationalist ukrainian websites. >> are there any clues as to who may have been behind this? >> it has been an arrest, made russian -- military personnel or police at least breaking into somewhere, and seizing a suspect. that suspect is said to have links with ukraine. also the ukrainian defense intelligence agency, and military spy network have issued an extraordinarily detailed statement about the circumstances of his death,

saying that he was shot several times to the pistol, and that the weather was, bad and so there wasn't any witnesses, but they stopped short of actually saying look, we carried out -- nevertheless, there has been an upsurge in the number of attacks carried out across the border, or by ukrainian sympathizers in russia, in the past couple of months, and the suspicion, is this maybe the latest example of that. >> matthew, chance thank you very much. tomorrow morning the commander of u.s. coast guard will face tough questions on capitol hill, about a damning report on sexual assault in the academy. their portraits kept secret for, years until cnn started asking questions, the hearing at the direct result of cnn's investigation, cnn chief investigative correspondent pamela brown broke the story, first and talks tonight to assault survivors who say the coast guard culture has not changed. >> new questions about the secret damning report called

operation failed anchor, which revealed a decades long history of substantiated sexual abuse, including rape at the coast guard academy. according to documents reviewed exclusively by cnn. the assaults were treated as minor misconduct by coast guard command, and were usually covered up. victims were often punished. the investigation around from 20, 14 to 2019, but only reviewed sexual assaults from the late 80s to 2006, leaving a major gap in its findings. >> the coast guard has failed the victims, and the worst part is the culture and environment that they still have at the academy is allowing this behavior to continue. -- says she was sexually assaulted in 1995, and even wrote about the incident in her journal at the time, saying a football player came to her room, quote, bit my, neck and felt that my chest. >> luckily i got away, and he left, but he said he was going to come back and finish what he started. i was terrified. this guy was bigger than, me stronger than, me and i did not

have a roommate, i did not know how to protect myself. >> she reported her attack at the, time but the coast guard academy only gave him the merits, and assigned him to write an essay. that same cadet would be accused of multiple other assaults, including rape according to records viewed by cnn. >> we are not being attacked by somebody who is a complete stranger that we never see again. you are repeatedly getting traumatized by this individual because you are stuck in the environment with them. >> she says she was hoping for change when the coast guard reopened her case, but dozens of others with operation failed anchor, but that did not happen. >> there was no you know, here is what the results, wore this is what we are doing about, it and this is the coast guard's way forward. >> instead, coast guard officials kept the problem secret for years. a source telling cnn, the report was, quote very centrally controlled, similar to how a classified report would be treated. the coast guard only briefed congress last month after cnn started asking questions.

now, senators are demanding answers. >> we are looking for accountability, we want to know what steps have been taken to make sure this never happens again. >> this episode is probably the most shameful and disgraceful incident of cover-up of sexual assault that i have seen in the united states military ever. >> of the dozens of old sexual assault cases examined, only one person was ever prosecuted. a charge against him was dismissed, when a court ruled the statue of limitations had run out. many of the alleged perpetrators graduated from the economy, went on to high-ranking positions in the coast guard, or other branches of the military. the man carrie karlyn says assaulted, her ended up retiring from the coast guard with full benefits. >> the victims do not feel like the coast guard handled their situation well. their attackers have gone on to have careers, retired with benefits, and the victims have never stopped suffering. >> cnn has spoken to more than a dozen former cadets who say, they were assaulted over the

years, some more recently. we need to talk about it. >> this woman who says she was raped three times, just graduated from the coast guard academy last year. >> you have to wonder if they had released this report, if they had done more to crack down on sexual assault, how you experience would have been different. >> i often find myself wondering what my future would have been like. time and time again, the academy and the institution do not protect their people. they did nothing to save me when i was asking for help. >> and it is devastating. >> the head of the coast guard admirable -- testified on capitol hill tomorrow, coast guard spokesperson told cnn that most of the historical cases could not be prosecuted because they had to go by the law at the time of the events, and in the 90s the court-martial definition of rape was a very narrow. pamela, brown cnn, washington. >> still ahead tonight, he has been falsely accused of leading an fbi plot to orchestrate the

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ray epps, the january 6th protester targeted by january six conspiracy theorists who falsely claimed he -- then president trump look bad. fox news ran with that story, and epps is now suing the channel, accusing former fox coast host tucker carlson of -- ers no comment yet from carlson or fox news and in the lawsuit filed today, epps's legal team writes in the aftermath of the events of january six, fox news search for a scapegoat to blame other than donald trump or the republican party. eventually, they turned on one of their own. ray epps is living in hiding after receiving death threats. in a moment i will talk with his attorney. but first, a look at how we got to this point. rapes talk to my 60 minutes colleague, bill whitaker. here's a clip from that april report. >> what exactly was the role of reyes in the chaos of january 6th? >> the theory, epps, a former member of the oath keepers, was an fbi informant who incited the crowd on january 6th bubbled up from a right-wing news site called revolver news,

run by a former trump speech writer. >> he's the smoking gun of the entire fed insurrection. >> and landed on fox news primetime. >> according to a new investigation from revolver, epps may have led the breach team that first entered the capitol on january 6th. >> the convoluted conspiracy theory made its way to capitol hill. >> it's not the proud boys who engage in the initial breach. it is epps at that precise moment. >> how did ray apps epps -- >> -- tucker carlson for nearly two years. >> right epps? he's on video several times, encouraging crimes, riots, breaches at the capitol. >> joining me now is rays epps 's attorney, michael --

>> -- the time had come for him to finally have his voice heard and make sure that fox is held accountable. >> did mr. epps attempt to resolve this before filing the lawsuit? were there other communications with fox news about his concerns prior to it being filed? >> yes, absolutely. we reached out to fox in march, asked them to cease and desist speaking about mr. epps, and lying about him, ask for a retraction on air, the same amount of time and energy they had put into the lies that and falsehoods about him, and we didn't get any response. >> i just want to play a little bit of more of what mr. epps told 60 minutes about tucker carlson. listen. >> he's obsessed with me. he's going to any means possible to destroy my life, and our lives. >> why? >> to shift blame on somebody else. if you look at it, fox news, marjorie taylor greene, ted cruz, gates, they are all telling us before this thing that it was stolen. so, you tell me. who has more impact on people, them or me?

>> so, in the lawsuit, he says, fox d rticular mr. carlson, -- a years-long campaign spreading falsehoods about epps. those lies have destroyed rays and robin's lives. can you just explain, what has the impact been on their lives? you've said they are in hiding, essentially. >> yeah, they started receiving threats, death threats, immediately upon the lies that tucker carlson and fox were spreading about them. they found bullet casings in their property, they had voicemails that had threats about sleeping with your eyes open, text messages, they were inundated with messages to their business, they had people who were sending mail to them, death threats. people knew where they lived, people were driving by with guns out of their trucks, pointing them at the house, just intimidating and scaring. right and robin -- so, they had to flee because their safety was in jeopardy. the fbi, in fact, one time, checked in on rays -- threats on the dark web, on way.

and, in fact, ricky shiffer, if you remember that name, he's the man who attacked the fbi office in cincinnati, ohio, in 2022. he referred to right in his truth social biography. so, ray was a focus of the right-wing media and their viewers, based on the lies that tucker carlson and fox were telling about them. >> mr. epps was brought up in the house judiciary committee today with director chris wray. i just want to play part of that. >> i think tucker carlson and some of the members, colleagues on the other side of the aisle have said that ray epps, was a secret government agent, hoping encourage this crime so as to make the president look bad. do you have any knowledge of ray epps being a secret government agent? >> no, i will say, this notion that somehow, the violence at the capitol on january 6th was part of some operation orchestrated by fbi sources and agents is ludicrous and it's a disservice to our brave,

hardworking, dedicated men and women. >> so, that's the fbi director debunking the epps conspiracy theory under oath in front of congress. do you think anything will ever put this to rest, when it comes to people who believe it? >> i think that perhaps finally, having a jury find that the lies we are told ray about epps -- and then working down just might finally put an end to it. but the truth is that lies have not mattered to fox or viewers for quite some time. they put profits over people, they put fraud over facts, they put lies over legitimacy. and so, i hope that this will spell an end to it. but at the very least, they need to be held accountable for their lies. >> in the dominion lawsuit, one of the things that dominion was able to do early on was to reach out to fox producers, at all levels of the company, and others at fox, and on air people, with point by point refuting, point by point, things that they were saying on air and giving them facts. did mr. epps, was he able or attorneys for him, or you, able to reach out very quickly?

or is there evidence that you reached out, you know, throughout this while they were airing these things to inform them that this was not true? because that was helpful, obviously, in the dominion suit. >> right, no, i never reach out to ray directly, it seems. they would talk about it on air saying that they would reach out -- he could of course -- the air. but they never really reached out to ray. he was not invited on. and honestly, i don't think that had he been invited on, he would've arrived and showed up for it because there's no point in fighting with somebody who's willing to tell lies about you over, and over, and over again. the facts were known from the get-go, and ray was, of course, not an fbi agent. when the january 6th committee discovered, that investigated, it refuted the lies that tucker carlson was telling on fox, and what did tucker say right after that? he disputed them. he decided to focus on the facts that the january 6th committee was covering up for ray epps. so, that's how mr. carlson fox

deals with facts. they just refused to recognize them. >> ray epps was a supporter of the former president, believed falsely that the election was stolen. do you know if he's still supporting the former president? does he feel like the former president has supported him? >> i don't think i should speak about ray's political views. i would say it's made him question fox, question trump generally, the lies that the former president and his supporters have told. but i don't want to say whether or not, how he feels about donald trump specifically. >> and according to the lawsuit, in may of this year, the fbi notified epps that it would seek to charge him criminally for events on january 6th. do you know what those charges may be and when they will be charged? >> no, i'm not able to really speak about the criminal side of matters, four ray epps. >> michael tieter, appreciate your time. -- details ahead, including with a family member of the victims are saying. hawaii was too expensive so i brought it here.

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>> more than 50 years ago, charles manson and his followers terrorized southern california and put the nation on edge. now, a woman convicted of participating in a double manson killing, leslie van houten, is out of prison and will be under parole supervision. she's now in her 70s, van houten was sentenced to life behind bars after being convicted for her role in the 1969 killings of a couple at their los angeles home. she was 19 years old when she joined the manson cult. randi kaye has more. >> he handed me a knife and he said, do something. and so, i went in and i saw bianca was laying on the floor, and i stabbed her.

>> that is leslie van houten in 1994, talking to larry king from prison. van houten openly shared details about the night she took part in a double murder, which she says, took place at the direction of charles manson. on august 10th, 1969, when van houten was just 19, members of the cult known as the manson family killed supermarket executive, -- and his wife rosemary in their l.a. home. that is what van houten said when she stabbed ms. -- >> 16 times -- >> 16 times, and after the couple was dead -- >> -- then they had milk and cheese. >> the law bianca murders took place after the famous tate murders and -- manson family members murdered pregnant actress sharon tate, the wife of actor roman polanski along with 44 friends at the tate's home in l.a.. even how he's not involved in the tape murders.

van out was born in the los angeles area and you reportedly grew up going to church camp and singing in the choir, but her father says, she soon got involved with drugs. she became a hippie and began living at a commune, and later, was introduced to charles manson. she lived with the manson family as they were called, which was known for group sex and drug use, and murders that terrorized the nation. at her trial, van houten claimed that rosemary la bianca was already dead by the time she stabbed her. killed by other manson family members. but she was convicted of two counts of first degree murder and one count of conspiracy to commit murder. she was sentenced to death along with manson and three other followers. their sentences were commuted to life in prison, after california abolished the death penalty. >> i really do not believe that anyone who kills two people, and especially having, in such a brutal manner, should ever be allowed out of prison. >> van houten was denied parole over and over again.

>> i'm no longer a danger to society. >> both california governor gavin newsom and his predecessor, jerry brown opposed van houten's appeals for release. so did the victims family members. still, in may, after more than 50 years in prison, an appellate court overruled newsom's latest denial and released van houten to parole supervision. a spokeswoman for the governor said, he was disappointed. >> she is a cold blooded killer. with her release now, it is our fear that the floodgates in the california penal system will be unhinged. >> i understand why people, so certainly with the victims or family members of the victims, feel emotional about this and want retribution, but that is not the law. because she meets the standard of parole, she's no longer dangerous. due process requires that she be released on parole. >> and randi, joins me now. what exactly is her lawyers argument that she's been

rehabilitated in prison? >> anderson, her lawyer says that she was in therapy in prison for 40 years. she was enrolled and what is called, rehabilitative programming courses in prison, which are required in order to get parole in california. her lawyer also says she was getting regular psych evaluations and now she's living in a transitional living facility. she will be there for a year and on parole for three years. but it's worth noting, anderson, that even when she spoke to larry king back in 1994 in that prison interview, she had some pretty harsh words for charles manson. she called him an opportunist, cruel, and vicious. she also, anderson, told larry king that she felt guilty in some part for creating what she called, the monster. anderson? >> randi kaye, appreciate, it thank you. we will be right back. ♪ i take once-daily jardiance, ♪ ♪ at each day's staaart. ♪ ♪ as time went on it was easy to seee ♪ ♪ i'm lowering my a1c. ♪

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