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>> a group of people who find themselves trying to save a man's life with the entire world watching. >> first and foremost, thank you for staying alive, brother. good morning, everyone. great to be here with you. >> it is awesome. we are excited about that. we are looking at our focus on one of the biggest events of the entire week. president joe biden closing out that high stakes trip to europe with a show of force. he is leading with nordic leaders. only about 120 miles from the russian border. >> this comes after critical nato summit in lithuania where the allies rallied behind ukraine and sweden and they might join behind finland it is
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a huge blow to vladimir putin. here is what the president said a short time ago. brand-new this morning, lloyd austin just sat down for an inclusive interview following the nato summit. and then the host of the situation room is gracing us all with his presence. tell us, what did the defense secretary tell you about the conclusion of this historic nato summit? >> he was very, very upbeat about the prospects, eventually, pamela, of ukraine joining nato. he has no doubt that eventually will happen once the war ends. i want to play a clip, a little
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excerpt, from the extensive exclusive interview i had with the u.s. defense secretary. listen to this. >> from a military standpoint, mr. secretary, how close is ukraine to meeting nato standards? >> well, there are a number of things that will have to be done, as you know. a big part of the inventory is legacy equipped meant and in terms of training and he whipping, there is work to be done. we are doing that work as we are helping them fight the war. things have been done up to this point there is more that will need to be done. >> you have no doubt that after the war, ukraine will become a member of nato? >> i have no doubt that will happen and we heard just about all the countries in the room
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say as much and i think that was reassuring to president zelenskyy. but there are other things that have to happen as well. judicial reform -- you know, things that make sure that democracy is in good shape. things will take place over time. >> how much time do you think it will take after the war? how much time will it take for nato to -- for nato to welcome ukraine as a full member? >> i will not speculate on that. i might say all the countries that i witnessed are interested in moving as quickly as possible. >> you think all 31 members of nato want ukraine? >> i think it will be 32. right. i do believe that everyone wants ukraine to be on board. >> sweden is also set to join nato. from your analysis, how is
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putin reacting to this expansion of nato? >> well, i am sure putin is very concerned. this is probably something he did not expect to happen, although president joe biden warned him of this at the very beginning. however, he brought nato closer to his doorstep, and so if you were him, you would be concerned about what you are seeing. what countries like sweden and finland do is they bring a lot to the alliance. we are happy to have them on board. i was just in sweden a couple weeks ago. i got a chance to spend time with the minister of defense and visit with their troops and look at their capabilities. they will bring value to the alliance right away. it is a strong democracy. that is what is most important. >> the defense secretary was
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very up beat about the unity of the nato alliance right now, saying that all of the countries of the nato alliance are working together to help make sure that ukraine remains free and that ukraine, that this war against the russians that invaded ukraine -- that they will eventually win. he was very up beat about what the nato allies are doing as far as spending for defense purposes to relieve some of the pressure on the u.s. it was all very sick vacant, pamela, and it is only going to be getting better. they are competent for now, the defense secretary thinks things are moving in the right direction. >> what did they tell you about that controversial decision, looking at cluster munitions being sent to ukraine? >> he defended it very strongly, saying ukrainians really need these cluster bombs right now and that they will be
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able to deal with them in a safe and secure way. he said he personally has been involved in deploying cluster munitions over the years and he knows a lot about them. he says that the training that will go in, they are trying to make sure that the ukrainians only use these cluster bombs in underpopulated, non-populated areas because they are very, very dangerous more than 100 countries, including several nato allies, have and the use because of a threat to civilians. some of them do not necessarily detonate right away but people can find them down the road and can cause all sorts of problems with death and injury and people have seen that. we are really worried that he is confident that the ukrainian military, right now, in this counteroffensive against the russians, they need these weapons and they need them badly. the russians have been using them against the ukrainians. the russians invaded ukraine and ukrainians do not only need these weapons to defend themselves. not invading any other country.
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the russians -- he was very up beat up out there decision to approve the authorization, the deployment of these cluster bombs to ukraine. >> i want to ask about what we are seeing with president joe biden in helsinki. he is with the finnish president and that is in stark contrast to when president donald trump visited helsinki and met with putin. how can we look at that? >> i was there at the time. it was very powerful, when he was in the conference in helsinki. then president trump made it clear that he believed what putin was saying, what putin was denying with interference -- why would he do that? he seemed so sincere he was rejecting the analysis, the conclusion of the u.s. intelligence community. in all my years of reporting, i do not remember a time when a u.s. president, especially
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overseas, would reject with the u.s. intelligence community was saying and support what a russian leader was saying. it was pretty extraordinary and in stark contrast to what we are seeing with president joe biden in helsinki for this meeting. >> thank you for interviewing lloyd austin. >> thank you. there will be a lot more of the exclusive interview with lloyd austin on the situation room and more. we definitely need to tune in for that. now to some cnn exclusive reporting. we have learned the special counsel team is investigating efforts to overturn the 2020 election and they issued secretary of state ensign earlier. she spoke to them last night. >> we responded to requests for an interview. we have been talking about what
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we endure through the election cycle and we have spoken with anyone voluntarily who reached out to us to ensure accountability for what occurred. >> this comes weeks after we learned the special counsel team has also spoken with officials in two other battleground states as part of the same investigation. joining us now to discuss the legal issues includes troy and williams. so, i guess the first question is what does this mean? this is the third state official we know of that they have interviewed as part of the investigation. what does it tell you in terms of what they are looking at and what it means for the overall investigation. >> i believe this is the fourth state. they have spoken to people in georgia, arizona, nevada, and now michigan. what i am seeing is a pretty broad national conspiracy
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touching on any aspect of election meddling or interference. they could be building one massive case, the mother of all election conspiracy cases. they could be charged in anyone jurisdiction, bringing in evidence from all the others, or frankly a far more narrow one and they are simply going to different jurisdictions to gather more evidence in further support of this our case they are building. it is pretty fast. as we got word a couple weeks ago, maybe it was $9 million. that is what it takes to build a conspiracy. it is rarer to find this type of investigation happening on so many different places at once. >> all of this was public, right? they are talking about it in the wake of the election. to some degree, it is becoming a part of the investigation. it seems like an obvious and game based on what we knew.
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what you think it took this long for all this to start to come together? >> to be honest, i think it goes to show what they are doing. now, i think they're getting close to wrapping it up, hopefully. i think they need to move forward. i think they're now talking to people who are really there at the front lines of it from 2020, being bullied and intimidated by these individuals. also what is important to note is it is republicans and democrats, right? it is conservatives, liberals, and it was a broad swipe that intimidation to overturn an election. regardless of what political party you belong to, even those that are telling the truth and they are speaking factually about what they faced. >> we spoke about this latin term. i do not love making predictions on these things, of course. >> it is pretty unknowing. >> love me or love -- one did
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not interview the secretary of state of one of the largest days of the united states with out proceeding further. >> it would be very odd for any prosecutor to go at that level of the government and to talk to somebody and i'll think about bringing serious charges down the road. >> we are so close to a prediction. >> thank you, olivia . chris eubanks out of wimbledon but the american tennis underdog looks to just be beginning his story. you will join us live and we can talk to him up next. and struggle with cpap. you shouldheck out inspire. ♪ no mask. no hose. just sleep. ♪
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an end, however this may be just the beginning of chris eubanks' story on the biggest stages. the american moving in the quarterfinals to number three against daniil medvedev. the 2020 u.s. open winner finish strong in the fifth set. >> he talked about his own professional tennis career. you can see it from the tennis channel. for years, he played in the minor leagues now he is ranking somewhere in the 30's. >> i definitely believe a lot more in my ability to contain some of the best players in the world. it is tough to really know until you have played some of the best players in the world. i have seen how my game can stack up against them and how i can frustrate them. >> chris eubanks joins us right now and i am excited about this. chris, thank you so much.
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i was thinking yesterday as i was actually screaming and our office, watching the tiebreak. do you have any idea how much your life has changed based on the last couple of weeks? >> thank you for having me. this is a really, really cool opportunity for me to talk to you guys and to answer your question, i do not think i really understand it just yet. i am trying to do a good job. i am blocking out the outside noise and i am focusing on each opponent individually. naturally, i can see -- i tried to focus on everything and all my energy to be here at wimbledon. i think it will be a little different when i get back stateside. i am excited about that. >> it is fascinating.
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you spoke about the confidence you gained. you are saying, look, i know i can go toe to toe with the best player in the world and this is after the low ranking. tell us how you were able to shift your frame of mind and game this confidence to get to where you are now? >> i think one of the biggest things and the biggest changes that i made, looking at smaller details. sometimes, they can get overlooked. even if you do not feel like there is anything wrong. making sure you get enough sleep. make sure you're eating a little better. all of those things can add up one or two percentage points. we all are doing it day after day. i think these changes and benefits are here. i think that is one of the major things i changed. let's go for a little more skill and extra stretching.
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had problem working in the gym, but after that, when i left the gym or the court, i went on about my day and sat on the couch and watched a lot of tennis. i used film study. i am being a little bit more diligent about other details and i think it is paying off. >> we can all learn from that, right? >> it is paying off. what are the best parts of watching -- tennis is a very isolating -- there is no team. watching other players on the two were react and respond and be so happy to see what was happening, they were filled up with the other players. they said when you came up, this is what they had to say. >> chris eubanks. >> we love chris. we love daddy long legs. >> he is really a toothpick because he is so skinny.
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he has been a tremendous supporter. he is another very highly ranked player. it seems like everybody really likes you. how do you feel about the nicknames? >> coco is the one who started the giraffe nick name. when you hear that and it is taking hold, that was started by coco gauff. i used to fight them on it, but at this point i see them as terms of endearment came really close with everyone that you just mentioned. a lot of the american players, a lot of those on to work, we have good rapport. a lot of those -- to see them happy for my success is the most gratifying feelings that i have experienced over the last two weeks because they understand what it is like and they understand the sacrifice it takes to have results like this and we see each other heavily more than we do not.
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it is like a second family. you see those people you are competing against and competing with, they are happy for your success and i think that is neat. >> spending more time with them than your own family. you might have lost the match against daniil medvedev but this one has been a big dream. you got this big standing ovation when you walked off the court. what was that like and what is next for you? >> that was pretty surreal. that was pretty surreal. to walk off the court at wimbledon and to hear cheering for me, it is special. it is something you dream of as a kid growing up, watching everyone on tv saying that. it is really special. it is something i will never forget and i cannot wait to try to use the momentum i have now. i am confident.
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i grew up going to these with my family. i always wanted to do well with them and i'm looking forward to experiencing the new york experience. >> real quick, before we go, how many text messages did you have when you took your phone? you turned your phone back on. >> right after the match, directly after, i had about 170. i waited about 15 or 20 minutes. i wanted to do my treat it and my cool down. i waited 20 minutes and i got about 240 messages. my entire social media was filled with my face and i was like, this is a big win. >> when you're in new york, and sad. we will hang out and i will start texting you.
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still no dione a contract between the sag actors union and hollywood studios after the latest midflight that time came and wait. they will vote later today on authorizing a strike. a yes vote would pave the way for the 160,000 members of the union to join the already striking writers on hollywood picking lines. >> two flight attendants and passengers were injured after one flight caused extreme
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turbulence. it happen on the jetliners way to the clearwater airport from north carolina. correspondent -- they join us now. this is frightening. what is going on? >> it feels like this keeps happening all the time. i feel like -- what is interesting about this is that we have heard from allegiance. they said two passengers and flight attendants were heard but they also confirmed through air-traffic control audio that there were head injuries on board and many of them suffered from a broken ankle. we know that paramedics met the flight at the gate in clearwater. this is 227. it was going from asheville, north carolina to clearwater at 36,000 feet. we know from the flight tracking data that it came down to 13,000 feet. i looked at the radar. there were some thunderstorms in the area at the time of this incident. turbulence is caused not only
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by extreme weather like thunderstorms, but also it can happen in clear error because of shifting layers of air, regardless of the cause of mass will be investigated by the federal aviation administration and the ntsb. if -- they looked at a terrifying experience. >> more than halfway through, all of a sudden, we heard some turbulence and the students fell to the ground. and then we hit a major turbulence, which was petrifying and she was literally up in the air and just slammed straight down. >> like the matrix the national transportation safety board has said it is monitoring everything that it is not investigating it yet. the ntsb has looked into this on commercial airlines for years and they said turbulence is the top cause of injuries on commercial airliners and it says thankfully, airlines are getting better at forecasting
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them but the big warning is as climate change increases and we see these extreme weather events around the world, we are seeing it across the planet right now, these may have been with more regularity. hot air rises and causes more turbulence and that leads to these incidents. the big thing to underscore is that always follow the instructions of the crew. wear your seatbelt, even if the seatbelt sign is off. that is the big thing, although it is flight attendants in the line of injuries because they are the ones up and walking around and they cannot protect themselves as well as you can. >> and the portability aspect -- they say we are expecting turbulence 10 minutes from now. it is so frightening and, wow, thank you so much. >> right now, president joe biden is meeting with other heads of state in helsinki and we will talk about their diplomatic trip. angus king will join us live. before we go to break, an
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this is cnn, the world news network. right now, president joe biden is participating in a summit with nordic leaders. we will monitor that throughout
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the course of the morning. that comes a day after they offered a substantial show support ukraine. zelenskyy does not have a roadmap to reach his goal of nato membership for his country yet. joining us now is angus king, a member of the armed services and intelligence committee and part of the bipartisan delegation that attended the nato summit. senator, thanks for joining us. i was struck when you look at the entirety of the summit, they feel very good. but president zelenskyy's tweet, on his way there, through things off. how do you think it ended? >> i think it ended positively. nato has not been more unified in 50 years. plus, two new members including doubling the border with russia when you have finland and sweden, i think it was an extraordinary diplomatic success. you know, put yourself in zelenskyy shoes. he is fighting a war and he has people killed on his home turf. he wants to get as much as he can get in everything.
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i think in the end, he realized that what is really important is the age that is coming, the military weapons, the material, the support, the humanitarian support, rather than the documents of nato. i think that is why he went somewhat mollified. >> we also looked at cluster munitions heading over. i was asking lloyd austin about them and he defended the decision and rationalized it. what is your sense of the necessity of those? >> i have to say my initial reaction was negative because of the history of cluster munitions. the danger of them is think of an artillery shell that shoots hand grenades. these things go out, so the danger is unexposed -- they might walk over eight years later. however, here is number one. the russians are using them big
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time and it is a very dangerous and destructive weapon of war, so the idea of no cluster munitions on the ground in ukraine, that has gone by. the russians are using them. secondly, we are trying to dislodge the russians. finally, they announced they will suffer whatever negative consequences that they want. to them, and i think one of the ukrainian general said this, the danger of cluster munitions is much less than the danger of the russians room and what they are doing to our people. i came away convinced after talking to a number of military people and the final point is the danger of cluster munitions is the death rate. how many do not go up. it is classified. ukrainians have gotten very good at de-mining and finding
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these things. they have groups that are going out every day to deal with landmines with the russians that they have planted and any issues of cluster munitions. that is a long way of saying tough decisions but i think it is the right one given the fact that ukrainians themselves said we need these to defend ourselves. >> your colleagues have concerns related to them selling f-16s to turkey. deeply those concerns will be mollified? >> i do. i think that is also an important and difficult decision. these are not easy decisions. on the other hand, turkey is now agreeing to the admission of sweden to nato, which is a very important step and one that few of us predicted this weekend. i was seeing this major discussion, about what turkey would do. well, president joe biden pulled it off, along with jim sullivan, the head of nato.
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>> we have news over the course of the last several days about a suspected chinese hack of the u.s. government, including targeting -- you are very inter- goal in the discussions of cyber picu on intelligence committee. what is your understanding of the scale and extent of the attacks? >> again, have to be careful because this is classified information. it appears to be state- sponsored by the pla, the people's liberation army. number two, it appears to be extensive and it is deliberate. if all those are true, china has to pay a price. there has been no response. remember the sony had? nothing ever happened. i believe we have to be
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resilient and we have to defend ourselves and ultimately we have to have state actors and others who will attack us in cyberspace and they have to pay a price. there has to be -- >> have you spoken to officials about that? >> not about the specific case. i can assure you they know very well about my concern about, essentially, deterrence. when you get an attack like this, that is a failure of deterrence. they are not really worried about getting a response. we have to demonstrate we have the capability to mess with them in a way that will cost them and that is what will ultimately make them decide not to do it. i want the chinese communist party to say, hey, maybe we better not do this because, you know, they can do something in cyberspace. i'm looking for a response from the administration. >> i do want to ask you, what breaks the jam with the blockade? >> i do not know. people are talking about how we
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had a meeting in the armed services committee and what they are concerned about. i do not know -- i do not know how we break that. it is really harming our readiness. the chief of staff of the army says -- i said is this compromising national security? you know what he said? yes. you know, i just wish the senator -- he has backed himself into a corner. i wish you would find an off- ramp. we cannot give him what amounts to two hostagetaking. >> thank you for being here. a loyal fox news person. he was persuaded to go to the capital but now they say, quote, they turned on one of their own. the details of this new lawsuit up next. were no surprises.
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fox is facing yet another lawsuit with echos of the dominion case. this one from ray epps, targeted by conspiracy theorists. tucker carlson often naming him on his show. >> on january 6th, 2021, the defendants directed, mobilized and led members of the crowd on to the capitol grounds and into
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the capitol, end quote. again, that's what you just saw ray epps try to do. here's the difference. others are in prison or facing long-term prison. no charges have been filed against ray epps despite the fact there is no question he did it because, once more, it's on tape. >> well, now epps suing the annel and carlson for deon. it alleges in the aftermath of the events of january 6th, fox news searched for a scapegoat to blame other than donald trump or the republican party. eventually, they turned on one of their own. >> he says he was a loyal fox viewer. here is epps's on "60 minutes" in april. >> he is obsessed with me. he is going to any means possible to destroy my life and our lives. >> why? >> to shift blame on somebody else. >> epps' lawyer spoke with
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anderson cooper last night, who asked him if there is anything he thinks would put the claims about his client to rest. >> i think that perhaps finally having a jury find that the lies were told about ray epps and then awarding damages might put an end to it. the truth is that lies haven't mattered to fox or its viewers for quite some time. they put profits over people. they put fraud over facts. they put lives over legitimacy. so i hope it puts an end to it. they need to be held accountable for their lies. >> joining us is cnn's senior media reporter oliver darcy. for those who haven't been paying close attention, remind people what we know about ray epps and his involvement in the attack on the capitol and how this ties together. >> fox news continues to learn that its election lies come with serious legal on consequences and this from ray epps who, as you said, was a loyal fox news viewer. his lawsuit is interesting
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because he says he was at the u.s. capitol that day because he believed the election lies that were being pedaled on fox news and then after he appeared at the capitol he became smeared by fox news as they looked for a scapegoat to pin a lot of the january 6th rioting on. of course, he said he was not working with the government as was alleged by people like carlson and others on the far right. but that really hasn't stopped any conspiracy theories and at this point he is suing the network because he asked for an on-air retraction a few months ago. they never delivered that. so he, i guess, is saying he has no other option but to sue to, hopefully, clear his name. i should note that this does come after a number of election-related lawsuits for fox news. of course, the historic dominion lawsuit. but there have been others. a venezuelan businessman settled with the network.
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abby grossberg, she settled with the network. they have to pony up a lot of money to untangle themselves from the election lies that they told in the aftermath of the 2020 election. >> thanks so much. just ahead, more of wolf blitzer's interview with lloyd austin. plus, we are learning cluster munitions are already in ukraine and a commander there says they could change the game on the battlefield. we will go there live. first, in an historically white male dominated profession, diversity and inclusion in shark sciences. i am a shark scientist. i quickly became aware that there is not a lot of people like me in the field. we had this sort of movement on twitter of black scientists with
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