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tonight on 316, nearly 13 years after first four bodies were found, police charge a man
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in three of 11 killings on new york's long island, how authorities used dna from a pizza crust to identify the suspect. also, could soon be three people charged with classified documents case? maggie haberman joins us live. the heat, what is behind it, where it's worse, and the places that could soon set all- time record. good evening, thanks for joining us. 12 1/2 years ago the bodies of four people were found over several days buried near a remote beach on new york's long island. all four women murdered, wrapped in burlap. they were eventually identified as melissa bartholomew, megan waterman, maureen brainard- barnes and amber lynn castillo they were not the only ones. in the year that followed, investigators would uncover seven more sets of human remains across two long island counties. there were few clues, the case went cold. no arrests were made until now. tonight, the remarkable story of how authorities came first to suspect and then build a six count murder case against a 59-
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year-old married architect with two children of his own in a home on a quiet long island neighborhood. miguel marquez joined us now from outside the suspect home. miguel? >> reporter: anderson, i want to show you what has been happening outside this home. this case, these unsolved murders just ripped long island and some of the people for so long. police have been out here all day going through his home, bringing out tons of evidence, and even though they have only brought charges regarding three of those deaths near gilgo beach, it has been received with an enormous relief. i am standing here with my law enforcement partners and gilgo task force to announce the indictment of defendant rex andrew heuermann . >> reporter: their bodies wrapped in camouflage burlap, dumped on gilgo beach. >> i made gilgo a priority.
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>> reporter: traumatized and captivated long island for more than a decade. now, the suspect, as unthinkable as the murders themselves. >> this is a shock, like i said, 29 years here, i have seen some things but this is worse. >> reporter: rex heuermann , 59, charged with three murders today. he faces a possible fourth murder charge. investigators say they identified heuermann using dna from the bodies of victims and from witness descriptions of him and the car he drove investigators obtained hundreds of search warrants and subpoenas linking him to temporary burner phones and fake email accounts investigators allege he used them to communicate with his victims, taught the family of one of them, and search for information related to the investigation into the long unsolved murders. >> these crimes may have happened years ago but that pain continues.
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>> the biggest break came when they were surveilling heuermann at his midtown manhattan office. he was eating pizza and discarded it. dna from the pizza crust say investigators linked heuermann to the murders. heuermann has been charged with the murders of melissa torme, amber lynn costello, and megan waterman. all sex workers in their 20s. the investigation is continuing. he has been also been named as a suspect in the murder of marine brain or barns. there were 11 bodies found in and around go-go beach. only three and possibly a fourth now linked to one alleged killer so far. investigators say they made the arrest now because they feared heuermann could strike again. >> one of the reasons we had to take this case down was we learned that the defendant was using these ultimate identities and these alternate instruments to continue to patronize sex workers. >> reporter: rex herman insists
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he is innocent. he is an unlikely suspect, a husband, father of two, architect in manhattan dealing with arcane building codes. in february, 2022, he was even interviewed about his job for a youtube show. >> i'm an architectural consultant. i am a troubleshooter born and raised on long island. >> reporter: as for the several other victims, many of their family members hope this will lead to answers about their loved ones. were they victims as well? >> i'm hopeful for the future and i'm hopeful that a connection is being made. >> what were investigators thing about the suspect and his large crimes? >> reporter: my god, the more you dig into this, anderson, it is just shocking how much investigators have put out there. some seriously incredible investigative work that they have done. they are saying this guy became
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increasingly brazen, saying he was using burner phones to search about the investigation itself. with regard to that one taunting that he used a burner phone to call a relative of melissa are telling me, telling that person that he both sexually assaulted and killed her. just shocking. >> you saw there, thank you so much for joining us on this evening. what a little initially led you to this suspect. was their first clue that was an aha moment? >> i took office in january of 2022. of course the investigation had been going on for about 12 years so the analysis of the case and we looked at some of the old evidence and we factored into some new evidence specifically, some information with regard to a call that the defender owned existing phone evidence as well as some of the
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hairs that were left on the murder victims. and i think march 14th of 2022 was when we really focused on this defendant. and that had been the first time that this defendant had ever been identified as a suspect in this murder. >> reporter: he wasn't even identified early on? it was march of 2022? >> what the first time he was identified as a suspect. >> reporter: when did you know for sure, in your opinion, that he was the killer? >> i think that there is, you know, it just kept on getting more and more interesting. i think if you look at the defendant, he is a very large person with a distinctive appearance. the witnesses at the time of amber lynn costello's disappearance really describe the person that looked , that appeared very much like the defendant. he owned a particular vehicle,
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chevy avalanche. fbi agents back in 2012 established areas of interest, of phone usage in both massapequa park and new york city where it appeared as though the murderer was making phone calls. and this constrained area was exactly where this defendant lives, as well as where he worked. so we kept on putting these things together, stringing them together, then, of course, following him, obtaining the abandonment sample, and being able to link up some of the dna samples left at the scene with profiles on both the defendant and his relatives which was very helpful. >> reporter: can you say how long you are following him? like physically following him? >> it is very difficult to follow someone 24 seven. but we had the resources of our task force, fortunately, so we
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had the resources in this instance, as well as the fbi. so we were physically surveilling him. and then we have ways of electronically surveilling people, which i won't get into. so we were, the combination of the two, we were gathering evidence, we felt comfortable but then we got to the point where the interest in gathering evidence didn't override our concern for public safety, given his activities. >> reporter: how much, in the 12 1/2 years, there has obviously been a lot of technological advances and changes in dna, how much did the technological changes in that timeframe have been instrumental and help? >> i think the thing that is really extraordinary about the case is the fbi, the cast agent , he did a phenomenal job. he really, back in 2012, he set
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the course for the cell site evidence. you know, the women were out in a tough environment for a long period of time so there was not a lot of forensic evidence. the hairs that we got in 2010, i'm sorry, 2011, you, you couldn't use traditional dna analysis. so the dna technology improved where you could now go, you couldn't use what is known as traditional nuclear dna testing but you could do mitochondrial testing. as i got into your late teens and into the early '20s now. the technology caught up to where we could do that, which is very fortunate. >> extraordinary work, thank you so much, appreciate it. a time report on criminologists and other experts to paint a picture of the likely killer in that
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picture resembles the suspect in many ways. quoting now from that report, he is most likely a white male in his mid-20s to mid 40s, he is married or has a girlfriend coming is well educated, well spoken, financially secure, has a job and owns an expensive car or truck our next guest is fbi senior profiler, mary o'toole at george mason university. it seems like that profile seems to fit the suspect. how common is it for serial killers to have a spouse, to have a family, to have kids? >> we have many cases where the serial killers have families and they have children and they have jobs that they have held down for years. and his disability to live a normal lifestyle when they are not out killing that allows them to fly under the radar screen for years. so we used to have a theory in the unit that if some cases go unsolved for a long time, we are probably looking for someone that is living that pro
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social life and appears to be a very normal to friends, neighbors, and family members. >> you just heard from the attorney in the press confidence. the suspect compulsively searched for images of victims and their family, was trying to locate members of the family, taunting at least one family member. contacted by someone claiming to be the killer. these were the same person, what drives that sort of compulsion? >> well, that is the right word to use. those are compulsions and one of the things, one of the motivations that have oblique drives that is he has tried to monitor the investigation and trying to figure out exactly what is going on. and then another reason to do it is to enable him to relive the murder itself. and so if he did target one family member for one of the victims and continually called that person, that may have been because that particular victim
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was his favorite victim i have done interviews with the serial killers and they will tell you i have a favorite pick them up and they obsess on that one victim. >> i don't even know if i should ask this but what does that mean, a favorite victim? a favorite in terms of who that person was x or how the killing went down? >> that is defined by them. so for example, a favorite victim could be someone that fought back and did and i quickly enough so the serial killer likes that. another definition of a favorite victim could be the manner in which he killed her. and he is reliving that really enthusiastically than some of the other victims. it really depends on what his definition is but i have heard them say that on a number of occasions. i had a favorite victim. so i don't know if that is the case here and why he targeted that one family, but it also seems to blend into the behavior at the crime scene. this individual seems to have
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sexually sadistic tendencies. one of the things that oftentimes kind of underpins making phone calls into a victim's family, which, quite frankly, is really high risk, is that they love to hear the fear in the families voice and the sadness and the upset. and the anger. so that response they get from the family member can be actually sexually arousing to the serial killer. >> wow. do you think, if this is the correct suspect, do you think he may have been involved with other killers? >> yes, i do. i said that for a couple of reasons. having worked many, many serial murder cases, this is not behavior that starts at 40 years of age. this is behavior we generally see beginning at about late teens or early 20s. and we always look for practice murders when we are dealing with a serial sexual killer. those are the murders that they commit prior to becoming a
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serial killer where they decide on what weapon they want to use, who was there victim going to be? how do they approach the victim? what do they say? they have a period of maybe years of practice until they get it down to the point where now it is exactly the way they wanted to be. so i think that there are other murderers out there. i think eventually they will hopefully find most of them, maybe not all, but that is what we say, what is the full extent of this persons lethality? because we are probably only looking at a part of it right now. >> i appreciate you being with us, thank you. new word that there could be possibly another person charged in a classified document case. what she is reporting, the target letter from the special counsel. we take you to pennsylvania where an escaped inmate believed to be armed and dangerous was spotted we will show you that video. and what that may mean for the weeklong manhunt. 'or barista sy.
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developments in two separate investigations into the former president. the first is a cnn exquisite. two sources familiar with the special counsel selection telling us the prosecutors have interviewed the secretaries of state for pennsylvania and new mexico. the latest in a rolling list of election officials. the second item is a new new york times report that a third person could be facing charges in the document case. sr. political analyst maggie haberman and correspondent share a byline on that. she is also the author of the best-selling covetous man, the making of donald trump and the
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raking of america. what you know about this employee, who, according to your reporting, received a target letter from jack smith? >> this is a low-level authority, anderson. before the grand jury in may and prosecutors are continuing to try to drill down on the question as to whether one anyone interfered with security footage. footage that the justice department was seeking and whether everything was complied with and whether statements had all been accurate. and look, we don't know what this person will be charged or not that it really doesn't afford that this investigation did not end with the indictment of donald trump. this investigation is continuing, what other transit may take but a bunch of subpoenas have been sent in recent weeks for additional documents and more witnesses have been brought forward. >> you have a sense of how wide the net is? >> it is a lot.
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and it is a wide range, anderson, between trump organization, mar-a-lago specifically, people on his campaign, people from his former white house, people who work for him at the time. people have been asked questions going back to how he kept records and his practices. it is a very, very extensive investigation, which we could get a sense of from just the sheer volume of discovery material that was turned over to the defense team so i anticipate that when it becomes clear, how many witnesses we are talking about. we know the government has a list of 84 witnesses that they are interested in talking to. we will see how the trump team handles it i think it is going to be the surprising to people just how wide this net was. >> is it possible, do they send a target letter intending to? letting them know the person that they may actually be prosecuted? or is it also to possibly encourage somebody? >> look, there's always a hope, i think, for prosecutors that someone who is facing charges
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could end up cooperating, whether that actually means flipping or not, in an investigation. so that happens up until the point that there are charges. but when a target letter is sent, it doesn't always result in charges. but it usually means charges and recall that donald trump was sent a target letter before he was indicted by the justice department. >> we learned late yesterday through reporting from you and kalin collins, that jared kushner testified in front of the grand jury. has there been any reaction from the former president? >> they are not surprised, they know that all of the subpoenas have gone out, they do the prosecutors have been interested in talking to this list of people. they know that they are targeting the prosecutors, interviews with people in trump's immediate area when he was in the white house in those final months to try to get a sense of his mind-set. so there is not a lot of surprise. it is also not a comfortable thing and no one on the campaign or legal team particularly enjoys the fact that trump's family is involved but they are not surprised, jared kushner works in the
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white house. >> publicly, the former president certainly rallies, seems he is happy to talk about it. you have any reporting on how he is actually doing this privately? >> viewing, which, the investigation? >> his indictment and also, all of the above, really. he is playing it all publicly. he is suffering this for everybody else's benefit. >> look, he is playing this politically. he has incorporated the indictment that he has already been, that he has now, and the possibility of another, and possibly yet another one in georgia and one in washington over january 6th and his efforts to stay in power. he has melted this completely into his campaign. i think you're going to see that going forward for some time. he is, he laughs it off, or he dismisses it or he describes it as a witchhunt and you are going to see that for a long time he has been very angry at
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various points about the federal indictment in particular. he is facing a lot of legal action. he is not happy about any of it but he is still going to make that a key feature of his messaging, in terms of prosecutors talking to members of his family, he is not happy about that. and it adds to his complaints privately that they are targeting him and targeting the trump's. >> the former president is in talks to do a sitdown interview on a podcast that mike tyson has. do you know much about the strategy behind that? >> there are couple of things. number one, mike tyson is a very old associate of his. he was actually an adviser of sorts to tyson at one point in the late 1980s. he was a huge defender of tyson was tyson was convicted on a charge and said it was a travesty so it's not entirely surprising, it is also a reminder that trump has unique niche that he tries to appeal to just in terms of cultural aspects of the country. he has been a public figure, he has been a celebrity. he has also been sort of a sports figure.
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a deeply controversial version of a noncontroversial defense bill is now heading for the senate. the republicans powered it through the house today, complete with provisions a limiting abortion access, transgender care. those measures are what far right members demanded of kevin mccarthy. spoke about it just before airtime with washington democratic congresswoman. thanks for being here, can you explain your reasoning for why you voted against this defense bill?
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>> yes, anderson, this was a bill that became really an extreme magna republican bill that was not designed in any way to get a bipartisan support . you know the top line is all ways account for the progressives, not only is it the highest top line number we have seen in a very long time, they put in all sorts of amendments that were added at the last minute that aimed to strip, move towards an abortion ban across the country, basically an abortion care and reproductive care for servicemembers. aluminate gender affirming care for trans folks. and aluminate ddi, diversity, equity, and inclusion. we are trying to build up our military, build up our troops, we have to have people from all over that represent different communities. and we have trouble recruiting right now as it is. so this was a bill designed to
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appease the magna extreme right wing party, and it was terrible to see. i haven't seen such a divided partisan vote in the entire time i have been in congress. >> speaker mccarthy was not about appeasing the most extreme elements of the party it was also to make democrats look bad knowing most likely they would vote against it. i want to play something that speaker mccarthy said today about your vote and others. other democrats. >> why did the democrats vote no? technically it is a bipartisan vote. four democrats vote with us. are the rest of the democrats against a pay raise for the veterans? are they against deterring china for a safe future? are they against rooting out wasteful spending? because they all voted against it today. >> that is how he is portraying it. >> yeah. that's right. i think that this is his attempt to try to say that we don't support our
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servicemembers when, in fact, everything that we are about is making sure that we have a strong military, where servicemembers get the support they need and they made it such , and you know this, you have been covering this for a long time, they made it such that they could only get four democrats, who, by the way, the four republicans who voted no. so that sort of evened itself out. this was not a bipartisan bill. i think you're right, he wanted it not to be a bipartisan bill and that is the issue with the extreme of the republican party. they're not interested in trying to pass things, they're not interested in trying to govern, they're not interested in getting that race for servicemembers. otherwise they wouldn't have passed a bill that is not going to pass in the senate. there's no way this bill is going to pass in the senate. and we are going to have to have a bill come back to us and we will see what the republicans do at that point.
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>> i want to read something that you wrote about this today. you said, quote, trans children, parents, and medical professionals know what is best for their families, not republican legislators try to take the right away. as the mother of incredible transtar i know how cruel this is and i am harmed that it has passed through the house. i mean, it is like this is personal for you. >> it is personal for me, anderson. this is about life and death for our kids, to be able to get the care that they need and to be the heroes that they are in just trying to live their lives. at a time that is incredibly difficult. so yes, it is personal to me but i can tell you, there are democrats and republicans and independents across the country who see this for what it is, a cruel, blindly partisan extreme things that republicans are trying to pin. you know, i guess what they are hoping is going to be a victory at the polls. i don't think it is, i think americans are going to see through it. >> finally, a defense bill has to be passed, what you think is going to happen in the senate? >> i think the senate is going to pass something that does have bipartisan support. but kevin mccarthy just put marjorie taylor greene on the
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conference committee, which means that he still is catering to those extreme right elements . and at the end of the day, the bill is going to have to come back to the house, it is going to have to pass the house. otherwise we are not going to be able to support our military. and i think that republicans are going to try to say that this is democrats fault but everybody can see what happened today. they insisted on passing a very partisan bill and anderson, they didn't even take bipartisan amendments that essentially didn't do that much but would have given a flavor of bipartisanship to the bill and perhaps encourage more democrats to vote for it. but they just insisted on making this extreme as they possibly could. >> thanks for your time. >>, thank you, anderson. the social issues took center stage today in an iowa gathering of evangelical
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christians that have become a pilgrimage for republican presidential hopefuls. this time, donald trump, jessica dean reports not only did the care candidates use the event, i was governor made of the launchpad for nearly passed abortion restrictions. >> reporter: kim reynolds signing her state six-week abortion ban into law on stage during the family leadership summit friday which gathered evangelical voters in des moines. >> i cannot imagine a more appropriate place to sign this bill. >> reporter: it was an issue florida governor ron desantis embraced in his remarks to the conservative audience. >> i will be a pro-life president so of course i want to sign pro-life legislation. we need to develop a culture of life in this country. >> reporter: he stopped short before committing to a federal six-week abortion ban. >> i will use the bully poor bit to support governors like kevin reynolds. it is one i am happy to have done.
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>> reporter: one conspicuous absence on friday, former president donald trump who skipped the event but will travel to iowa next week. >> thank you so much. >> reporter: governor reynolds, popular among conservatives in the state, has pledged to remain neutral in the state caucuses but have appeared at several events with ron desantis, tim scott, and nikki haley. earlier this week, trump attacked her for not endorsing him writing on truth social, in part, i opened up the governor position for kim reynolds and when she fell behind i endorsed her. in response, desantis called reynolds, quote, a strong leader who knows how to ignore the chirping and get it done. >> isn't it good to be in a nation where you are free to praise the lord? >> reporter: trump's rivals who continue to lag behind in the polls, hoping to use his absence friday as a moment to stand out to voters. former vice president mike pence calling trump's words on
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january 6th, quote, reckless. >> whatever his intentions were, it endangered me and my family and everyone that was at the capitol that day. i believe history will hold him accountable. >> reporter: and what we just heard from pence there is about as explicit as any criticism that we heard from the stage about former president donald trump, anderson. instead the candidates really focused on talking about their own viewpoints, really trying to sell themselves to that critical voting block of evangelical voters. and attacking democrats and president biden. anderson? coming up next, why doorbell camera videos, the potential pennsylvania police, a manhunt for an escaped inmate, coming up. the already hot summer and how it is likely getting even hotter henrietta has the numbers. rich, velvety coffee. café quality espresso. one high-pressure system
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>> we consider this to be a confirmed sighting. >> reporter: reported in the last few days, just after 5:00 a.m. >> no doubt becoming more desperate in attempting to acquire the things you need to survive. >> reporter: now believe burham has an injury to an ankle or leg. the video indicates he is probably limping. >> we believe that he potentially had an injury during the escape. >> reporter: one day after police noticed this photo saying they are confident this bag and tarp full of clothes, food, and other items belonged to burham. they found in the general area of the city of warren in the woods. police also called on burham to turn himself in. >> don't do anything foolish don't get yourself hurt. we are going to capture you. >> considered armed and dangerous and is wanted in several cases including the shooting death of a 34-year-old woman, the carjacking and killing of an elderly couple and setting his exit car on fire. he escaped warren county prison , drew a hole in the cape and
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propelled down using bedsheets tied together. alluded law enforcement earlier this year for his arrest, but it took two weeks to capture him. this dash cam or video shows what law enforcement caught him back in may in south carolina. as for this manhunt, warn residentssay they are taking every precaution necessary to remain safe. >> i'm going to be sitting here , armed, because i have the right to bear arms and my wife and i both have permits. >>'s early lot of hikers and campers where you are. >> anderson, there are a ton of hikers and campers in this area. the weekend is a part of us, the weather is good and a lot of them are going to be out. despite that, and despite the fact that michael burham is considered armed, dangerous, and now police say he is desperate. despite all that, george bivens of the pennsylvania state police say he is not recommending that people cancel
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their outdoor activities this weekend. i also pressed him on whether he would shut down certain areas of the woods and forest around here he says he does not want to do that. a degree i can't shut down huge swaths of territory in western pennsylvania. of course, he does is advising people to keep an eye out for michael burham because he is now desperate, according to police. >> appreciated. as brian just mentioned, this is not the first time that burham has been on the run. there was a carjacking, kidnapping, he forced the couple to drive them to south carolina. that is where he finally caught back in may. thanks to the actions of our next guest who spotted burham behind a shed on his property. joining me tonight is anthony phillips. >> mr. phillips, thanks for joining us, could you walk us through your encounter with the fugitive the last time he was on the run? >> so we go around to the back. i open up the building door, look at the building. the shed door, garage door, if you want to call it that. i open that up, didn't see nobody shut the door. nobody out here let's go back
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in the house. and our little jack russell terrier dog, she started growling. what's going on with her? and then we went to the other side and growled and let out a bark. i looked down and there was a pair of shoes. and i asked, i said whose shoes? i know they're not your shoes. and then got to looking a little bit more and i had seen something that said and warren with white over the top over it. i got to look at it. and i stepped back and i said hey, hey. whenever i said that michael burham stood up and whenever he stood up he threw his hands up he said, i don't want no trouble. i'm not going to hurt nobody i
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just want to grab shoes and leave. i hollered and cussing at him. trying to get me to come back. worried about getting her into the house, as long as she was in the house, going house, call the law. >> it is wanting to hear on the news that there is a guy who escaped who is on the run. and you know he is out there somewhere. but to actually suddenly see this guy on your property, what goes through your mind? you call him out and he gets up there with his hands up? >> it was a, kind of a adrenaline rush. it was like, you go back and you are not expected to see whatever you have seen. like what? you think about it a couple of days later, you know. something really bad could have happened. i don't know if he was armed but i -- i am not going out there empty-handed.
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this could have went a completely different way. >> you have seen this new video, i know, from police of him limping through a neighborhood. i mean, it's, it's good they got the video. how long do you think he will be out there for? class i'm going to be honest with you. with that guy right there, there ain't no telling, man. if you sit there. i have been on facebook a lot. i have been looking at a lot of different posts and seeing the type of guy he is and seeing from what he did out here. cops were right here at the house in no time. and he still led them on over an hour chase. i am talking within two minutes . he still led them on an hour and some chase. so there is no -- i don't even think that, i really don't. i hope soon that the family can that has all suffered because of what he has put them through, they, somebody needs
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to help them to a nice shiny set of handcuffs. it's not right. >> i appreciate you talking to us. my best to your wife. >> oh, thank you, sir, i appreciate. y'all are great. coming up, record-breaking temperatures around the globe. harry henton is here to break down the heat. later, they survived a plane crash, spent a month wandering in the jungle. how four young children are doing now. simparica trio is the first and only chew with triple protection. oh, fleas and ticks ♪ intestinal worms... wow heartworm disease, no problem with simarica trio.
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top 130 degrees this weekend. in agony we turn now to our senior data reporter. how do these track with heat waves of the past? >> it is hot, let me tell you. >> reporter: is that what the data says? >> yes. let's look at global. the last 11 days globally have been warmer than any other on record since at least 1979 and i say at least 1979 because we don't have records going back further. people believe this may be the warmest 11 days in the last of 3000 years. >> reporter: we don't have records going past 1979? >> not global. we have them for local places but not the entire globe. i said let's put them in a global context and take it domestic. look at phoenix, arizona.
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they had a high temperature reach 110 degrees every day this month. all the way in since the end of june and they have no relief in sight. they are going for a record and are going into the middle of next week we expect it will reach the record for most consecutive days in phoenix with at least one 10. i love the city of phoenix and that is this. the nighttime temperatures have not drop below 90 degrees the last few nights. so there is no escaping this heat and that is because something called urban heat dialing which is all the infrastructure and concrete roads, all that retiring -- retains the heat >> reporter: urban heat island? >> urban heat island. >> reporter: it sounds like a reality show. >> my friend did star in a reality show them but this is
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actually something we see often. >> i had forgotten that last summer more than 60,000 people died in europe during heat waves. we don't see those huge numbers of deaths in the u.s. is the difference many people there don't use air conditioning? >> god bless air conditioning. one of the great inventions we have ever had. about 99% of household in the phoenix metro area have air conditioning. 90% of households nationwide. >> less than 5%? >> less than 5% in the united kingdom have it so they are over there saying all those people in the united states hurting the environment, but if you look at the numbers air- conditioner is them major difference. >> i was in paris. no air conditioning anywhere.
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>> who would want to go to europe this summer especially as we see all this heat right now? there is no way? >> do you have any data? >> let me ask you a question? where do you keep your air conditioner when you set it? >> on hot days? more like 73. >> that's basically. i was interested to see if you are where rest of america is. we see most americans during the daytime keep their a/c thermostat in the 70s. look at that. 46 in the 70 to 73 range. >> yes, i like it. harry into an -- inten, thank
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