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cnn's bill weir is here to explain to us what our leaders to do now. and tonight, we are learning more about what donald trump plans to do if he is reelected in 2024. it involves completely reshaping the power of the presidency. one of his former staffers tell us us what that means. but first donald trump has to deal with the various court cases and investigations that he is at the center of. the doj in team trump go back to court tomorrow to hammer out a trial dates for his mishandling of classified documents. here's what donald trump said sunday but the judge in that case, when he appointed. >> i know it's a very highly respected judge, a very smart judge in a very strong. judge >> but you appointed? her >> i did, and i'm very proud to have appointed her. she's very smart and very strong. loves our country. loves our country i mean. we leave we need judges who love our country so they do the right thing. >> let's begin there with

tomorrow's news tonight. the judge in the case, aileen cannon is telling both sides to be ready to discuss a trial date when they appear in her courtroom tomorrow. the doj wants this trial to happen fast. team trump hopes to delay a trial until after the primaries or even after the presidential election. so who will be the judge side with? let's bring in david chang who is devyn trump's lawyer in his second impeachment trial, and was also approached by team trump about the mar-a-lago classification documentaries but declined it is. also joining us cnn legal analyst joey jackson. gentlemen, thank you so much for being here. all right that soundbite that we just played. joey telling the judge she saw smart, she saw, she loves the country. our judge is susceptible to flattery? does that effect -- could that affected judges judgment? >> i think everyone is somewhat sub septal to flattery, but federal judges like other

judges they are supposed to be about the law. now we do know allison if there have been some issues as relates to this judge based upon prior rulings that were favorable to mr. trump ultimately an appellate panel dealt with that issue dealing the special master i digress. >> but they were overturned. people felt she was siding with team trump and then an appellate panel overturned. >> unanimously. to those judges in the appellate panel were appointed by president trump and i think that significant. i think judges have to be about the law. the only way for our system to work is not for judges to be influenced by any type of flattery but to be influenced by what does the constitution say? what do statutes and regulations and rules say, and more support lee was a federal indictment say one of the gonna be doing here? i think this one is what wiggle center out. think it'll center around tomorrow, the issue the mention, what is an appropriate trial date, hearing things from both sides, trump wanted to extend it, moving on perhaps after the presidential election.

and saying no we can do this now. i think there's some other significant issues involving classified documents, how they're handled, how the jury handles them, either processed what, the public says >> we're getting those in a second. but david, in terms of the date, the doj as i said was a trial soon, they're asking for mid december trial dates. team trump has reasons to want to delay it and push it back the primaries, maybe even past the presidential election. so which one do you think that judge cannon will side with just given what is customary? >> well it, is what is customary i think is what they say split the baby. i think the date the government has is an aggressive date, it's certainly shorter than normal in a federal criminal case, even in an ordinary case. but i think it is going to be somewhere in between. i'm not sure it should be a function of the election, although i think that's important to the american people. i think the real issues are the

value of discovery, the classified information procedures act that complicate things extraordinarily, and motions practice in this case. the special prosecutor said that it's really not a novel case, it's a very simple case. i don't think that is fair. we've never really encountered tension between a former president and his view of documents and the espionage act, solar novel issues however one resolve them. >> but david to be clear you don't think that the timing of the presidential election should play into? this as it gets closer to november 2024, is not a factor? >> sure. i think it's definitely a factor, it's politically a factor, but my focus generally in cases is on sort of what the real mechanism is about moving forward. there is a speedy trial act. i think that in the interest of the american people, it should be after the election, but i think that tomorrow a focus is going to be on the real nuts

and bolts of this case and how that drives the date. i think it is extraordinary. you're talking about 57 terabytes of images at least so far we say normally the library of congress collection is ten terabytes of data. not really fair davison images made it's more than, up this is a whole lot of information. 833,000 pages so far to review. it wouldn't be normal to put that trial before six months. >> those are some sobering numbers that you just gave us. but back to why this is so delicate a case. in terms of even the discovery even having to present to the other side the materials that you were talking about, plus you have security clearances, you can't show that the classified top secret documents. does donald trump still have those security clearances? i know not as a codefendant? >> i think what's important is whether the lawyers who are accessing the information to have the requisite security

clearances and are able to evaluate the information. it's an interesting question no alison because certainly cases are governed by the ability of the defense attorneys to dissect the discovery, evaluated, make determinations upon how they can use it for their clients advantages, for prosecutors to show the discovery within, here there's more complication, because it's classified information. but now you have this interesting balance about whether or not the judge should take into account a presidential election, and i'm torn on it for the following reasons. on the one hand, trump should proceed in accordance with the schedule that's appropriate for everyone to evaluate and be prepared. on the other hand, you don't want the public to lose trust in the system. critical to our legal system although it should be a political, should be a political, it's people buying in. only buy in if the judge says nothing to see here, keep moving forward, forget about the presidential election. it has to factor into some degree the extent of what it factors in will be in question. i just think the judge should

be too differential of that process but she should be deferential to the process of making sure everyone is fully prepared to move forward on a date, that should be the criteria. joey, david thank you very much, we'll be watching very closely what happens tomorrow in court. let's bring in now former trump deputy white house secretary sarah matthews. sarah great to see you. i don't know if you've heard that soundbite that was played at the beginning of former president trump complimenting judge cannon. she's so strong, she love the country so much, she is so smart. i know we've heard and do things like this is a device that he sometimes uses when he wants to curry favor with someone or manipulate them, how did you hear that? >> exactly what you said, it's like he's heaping praise on her in hopes that she will rule in his favor tomorrow. i think this just goes to show that trump is all about loyalty. he thinks that this judge owes him something because he put her in his position. so therefore in his eyes she

should rule in his favor. i believe in that same interview he said something about along the lines that she should quote do the right thing, or people who love this country do the right thing. he went on to say that she loves our country. just goes to show that he's kind of putting at this thinly veiled threat of wanting her to quote do the right thing tomorrow. and i think that hopefully she is going to ignore that and do what's best for the case. >> so there is this really interesting new york times in article about what donald trump and his team are planning if he were to win the primary and then win the presidential election in 2024. basically it's to consolidate presidential power. he didn't feel like he was basically powerful enough last time around and haharet with other branches of government and he would try to change that. here's se of the things that they focused on. these are actual plans. they are not running away from

this rng. thiss what they say they want do. bring independent agencies like the ftc, the fcc under presidential control. refused to spend money that congress haspriad for certain programs donald trump doesn't like. that practice was pan unde president richard nixon by the way. strip basically allow intelligence agencies d the state departnd oer defense agencies to remove some of donald trump's perceived enemies. what do you make of those plans? >> you know i've been sounding the alarm that i think donald trump is a threat to our democracy. i resigned on january six because i was so disgusted with his lack of action that day and his lies about the election, and i think that this just goes to show that he wants to erode our democracy. he wants to do away with our system of checks and balances, and he wants to consolidate power and essentially have a

dictatorship. donald trump is not running his 2024 campaign to empower americans, he just wants more power for himself. if you were to become president ever again and my hope that he will never have that chance and that either someone will beat him in a nominating context either republican nominee, obviously that doesn't look to be the case right now, as he's the front runner right now and that's really concerning to me. >> people like you and alyssa farah griffin and stephanie grisham have spoken out about having a breaking point and leaving and never wanting to work in those conditions again for donald trump. but other people are still with him. how hard would be do you think if he were to win for him to assemble a staff and get people to go along with him? i think that i get asked that question a lot like how did you work for donald trump back in his first administration,

because i wanted people of good character. like myself, like stephanie grisham and alyssa farah griffin to be surrounded him to give him good solid advice. what i'm most worried about and what we saw at the end of his administration was that he stopped listening to people who weren't telling him what he wanted to hear, and he started listening to people who are feeding into his worst instincts. that is my worry as well if he were to ever win the presidency again, that the folks will be surrounding him would not be people of good character. i think a lot of people are sticking by his side aren't doing so in the best interest of our country. i think they're doing so in the best interest of their own careers. >> sarah matthews, great to talk to, you thank so much for being with us tonight. >> thank you. >> a new flood of evidence and google beach serial killer's case including it all the reportedly found in the suspect's house, and hundreds of gun. we'll break down everything we

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investigators finding a ton of the beach serial killings on long island. the source tells cnn that officials found between 200 and 300 firearms in a walled off vault behind a locked metal door in the suspects face. 59 year old rex herman was arrested and charged, did murder. the llgs of three of the men's hoops remain unearthed near on long island he has pleaded not guilty to the killings of melissa, meghan waterman and -- pasta. >> i can't begin to imagine the pain that these families have had to endure over the last decade. and to know that this demon was

capable of doing such a deep evil act to these families. it is just beyond comprehension. the suspect reportedly had only one question at jail after being arrested last week. he said, quote, is it in the news? this is according to a source there. joining me now is anthony destefano, he's a legal affairs and criminal justice reporter for the newsday on long island. also cnn chief law enforcement and intelligence analyst, john miller's here. and alexis, host of an revealed long island serial killer on our sister network i.d.. great to have all of you. john, why did it take ten years to come up now? evidence is coming to the fore and police say that they're gathering all sorts of new evidence. why did it take more of a decade to put all of this together? >> the county police homicide detective worked on this for a long time. and the used every tool at their disposal. they got the fbi to come into a profile they did some telephone

work for the county police but when the new commissioner came in, rodney harrison, the chief of detective at the nypd and the chief of department they took over the county and said, let's bring everybody in. let's bring in the state police. they have unique abilities. let's bring in the sheriff. they have access the people in prison forms insulin. let's bring in the fbi and they formed a task force. and then using all of those capabilities they broke it down to let's start with the phone work. we know that that guy had a phone and then he called the victims families and then he made other calls and they found out from that to say, who can we compare? the calls from these two locations to. we have one witness who gave us a description. let's look for -- >> there was a witness who saw the car that he was driving. >> both. so what do we got? we got three things. we've got a description of a guy. we've got a description of a car. and then we have the burner

phones. can we put a burner phone in that car or a burner phone and that person together? and then the state police investigator running the car in a different way through different databases finds the green pick up truck that matches to the person who lives within that box and then the burner phones and the rest, as they say, is history. the dna, of course, -- >> so anthony, i know that you've been talking to some of the neighbors in where this guy is from. what did they say about him? >> they of course very surprised, very stun, very shocked and they thought he was just sort of an average joe and a little quirky in the neighborhood. he was in a lower neighborhood, he kept very well. he was a little a sack trick. >> it's a little strange for an architectural construction consultant. >> it was a little bit more about appearances and structures but it wasn't that way. >> but did they say that they read some reports that he was

at times competitive? did you hear that? >> i've read those reports as well, yeah. >> so not the nice guy in the neighborhood? >> no he didn't even look as a nice guy you may not have been that community to but he had that signed a big doughy look and people sort of thought that he was a little bit intimidating. >> i do agree that some people thought he was a menacing. maybe even beyond just his stature. so, i know that lots of people had tried to crack this case and tried to profile who it might be and so did anybody get close? >> no, nobody got close and i think what's really frustrating about this entire thing and how it's unfolded is that none of this evidence that they have is near. this is all evidence that we've had since 2010 and it begs the question of why did it take 13 years to get here. and it just calls into question the previous administratn that was in control of the case in 2010.

and we know the police thought at that time was corrupt. he ended up in jail. so did the dea. jamesburg, and it is forestry sting had they done their jobs these families of these victims could've suffered a lot less time. and it's just very frustrating. >> john, there were other bodies, they should know found in the same vicinity. is there any reason, other than location that you believe that it's the same suspect? does it have some of the same telltale signs? >> some of those cases, that they're looking at one of them is an infant, a toddler so that is kind of the one that doesn't fit with the rest of the pieces. >> and one is a man. >> one is a man. but you really have to ask this question right. how many people were using that same stretch of road as a burial ground for murder victims. it is not common for serial killers or other offenders to

kind of happy drink burial ground. on the other hand it's a very dense area and there's a few deserted areas around them and this is one of them but now they have an advantage which is that they have a house full of evidence that they're collecting from and the store your body on that. and perhaps other locations to be found. and what they're able to take from him based on a search warrant for dna. so there will be a lot more things too compared to maybe bring those cases together. >> france, thank you very much we appreciate all of your expertise in this and this is obviously not the last time we'll be talking about this story. we're just getting started basically with this. okay, what does maryland for governor, mary hogan think about a third party run for 2024. he's here and he'll answer, next.

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democratic senator joe manchin is teasing that he could enter the presidential races a third party candidate. the speculation, growing at a bedford the center is not partisan group no labels today. manchin insists that he will not be a, spoiler, to plenty of democrats but they disagree. joining me now is former maryland governor, mary hogan. he's also the national co-chair fernald labels. governor, great to have you. >> great to be with you, thank you. >> so, let's talk about third-party. third parties and third party candidates. that it's a very appealing, i think, idea to lots of americans. it's very tempting. it comes up. as you know, every four years people think wouldn't it be great to have another option.

but in reality, explain how the math works. particularly for 2024. >> sure, well, the math usually doesn't work and rarely ever has worked but i think we're in a very unique moment and time where an overwhelming majority of americans believe don't like the two potential choices that it looked like it may be faced with. in fact 70% of the people in america did not won a rematch of 2020. they don't want biden and trump to be the next president. and so, i get, it it is a tall order. but the efforts of no labels today is really about laying out a common sense bipartisan agenda. and trying to get people to be willing to work together, reach across the aisle to come for real solutions and that's the basic part of it. but look if most people do not want candidate, a and candid a b, it may open up.

suddenly, there is no guarantee of. it but there may have to be an insurance policy in case of emergency brake glassware we offered the american people another choice. >> well that interesting. because i have heard you talk about this emergency brake glass scenario. and do you consider in terms of your own possible run, do you consider the leading republican candidate having been twice indicted and various other investigations swirling around him would you consider that a break at the last moment? >> well if trump were to be the nominee that suddenly would be a break glass moment and i'm still focusing my efforts and i have been for many years now of trying to get the republican party to move in a different direction. i am still hopeful that we can find a strong candidate that can challenge him and that can win the nomination and go on to win the election in november. it doesn't seem like that's

going to happen. but we're a long way off and years of internally in politics. and we'll be looking at what happens in the primaries, next spring. >> have you rolled out? >> what does that? >> have you ruled out around? >> well i made the decision back in the spring to not seek the republican nomination. i have not completely rolled out the possibility of this. it's not something i'm focused on. it is not something i'm really giving a lot of serious consideration to. but look, if we get to the point where someone's got to have the courage to put the country first, they are talking about potentially putting a unity ticket where republican a democrat would say, in what for the good of the country are going to run together? and it's not something that i've actually given a lot of thought to? but i haven't ruled it out. >> in terms of the math, as you know president trump lost some pivotal battleground states

like georgia arizona. and i think wisconsin by a very slim margin. something like 44,000 votes. so how can a third party, being sonia, not be a spoiler if that were, again, the case. >> well i can tell you that there is not a soul in the know labels organization that has any intention of being a spoiler. i certainly would not do anything to try and tip the election and donald trump's favor. i don't think joe manchin, julie bourbon or any of the other people involved with do it either. but, look right now, 70% didn't want biden or trump and 59% said that they would consider a third alternative. 49% of the people in the country are registered independently. and a new poll came out today that ruling had showed that 33% say that they vote for trump, 32% say biden, and 31% say that they would vote for neither. so it's not being a spoiler. it's about this group being

only interested in running, if we could actually win. and bring the country together. >> i want to ask you about an interview that our kaitlan collins just did. and that was with georgia governor, brian kemp. as you know, he was no fan of the way donald trump conducted himself after he lost the 2020 election. but he says that he would vote for donald trump again if he is the gop nominee. >> i think it might surprise some people if you work to get him elected given your history with him. >> i would ask a lot of people, i have people that say you just can't go there and do that. but i am thinking of the next president going to be picking, probably, another supreme court justice. and judges on the court of appeal and federal judgeships and dealing with those in our military, standing up to our adversaries around the world. and who would do want to be your president?

>> what do you think of that logic? >> well, look, brian kemp said a good friend and somebody i admire was really involved in trying to help him and make sure he won that primary when donald trump was trying to oppose him. i don't begrudge him for having that opinion. he's entitled to that. there's a lot of people in the republican party that would vote for trump if he was the nominee. i don't have to be one of them. i just think that he's disqualified himself from being our next president. >> former maryland governor, leigh hogan, thank you very much for your time. great to talk to you tonight. >> thank you. >> and it's not just governor hogan who would consider a third party run in 2024, one democratic senator is also -- will tell you what senator joe manchin just said. ththe more times you wash them. downy protects fibers, doing more than detergent alone. see? this one looks brand new. saves me money? i'm starting to like downyny. downy saves loads.

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west virginia senator, joe manchin playing coy about a third party presidential campaign. but what he's not coy about, his thoughts on the far left influence on the white house. >> i think he's been pushed too far left. he knows that. and we're still friends. we can talk. i just think that basically, and a lot of the ways they're interpreting, and trying to implement places of legislation, they never had the intent of what they're trying to do to make something that was in past. so we have our differences. we have the ability to dialogue, to talk about. it but i think he's been pushed too far to the left. i don't think that's is -- we use as a person. and i think it's a strength to fight back, any. well we'll see. >> okay, let's discuss this. and so much more.

with rolling stone columnist, jay michaelson. lee carter and cnn senior political analyst, ron brownstein. great to have you. all, let's talk about his possible third party run for whomever. so we just had governor larry hogan on for formerly a maryland. and he did the math any sort of presented a compelling case that a third of the country doesn't want either democrats or republicans. so why not a third party candidate? you are a number cruncher. can it work? >> no. i don't think again. because really, as much as we have about 40% of americans who say that they're independent. they're really not independent. we are mostly aligned with one or the other. and we might disagree on a certain issue. we might not like labels. but at the end of the, day it's really hard to go to a third party. especially when it third party candidates are as uninspiring, i think, as the ones that we're looking at right now. i don't think that they're really the kind of people you can keep your eyes off, of who are going to give you that kind of energy, who are gonna stand for something that's going to change your mind that much. i just don't see it happening. >> ron?

>> i agree with lee. >> but why. why could never work? >> it can't work largely because of the electoral college. even if you can draw an audience as ross perot did in 1992, and it went about 20% of the vote. he didn't win a single state. because so many states now tilt so strongly toward one side or the other. alison, 40 states have voted the same way in the past four presidential elections. that's a higher percentage of states, voting the same, way that even in the four elections that franklin roosevelt won consecutively. there simply is no path to 270 electoral college vote for a third party candidate. and i, means the only thing they can do is tip the election towards one side of the. other given the fact that donald trump has never gonna pass 40% of the vote, the odds are very -- and he is the republican nominee. he's the one who would be the most advantage no matter who the candidates. >> but i, as i was telling governor hogan, it is that people are tempted by. it voters are fickle. and people often say, if only

there were another way, there were a third party. and so, it is just the system that's preventing it from happening. and, for instance, are you doing your, he's getting like 20% of the polls. people are intrigued when somebody breakthe mold. >> well president biden is not -- there is nothing specific to the cycle, so this is a great time to talk about the democratic nature of the college. my friend have been new york times wrote a wonderful book about let's abolish the electoral college. this is one of the many ways in which the electoral college it freezes into place that does not mean most americans where they are. but it is true i was even listening to governor hogan's comments earlier when push comes to shove, there are issues that just divide republicans and democrats. the ideology of supreme court justices, and federal judges i don't think that joe manchin who's not the most important climate change on this country speaks for the -- which is concerned and doesn't

want somebody in such close relationship with the coal industry to be leading this country. when push comes to shove, there are these to. issues and in addition to the electoral college agree that it is just very difficult. people say they flirt with third party candidates. but ultimately, they come down where they come down. >>, let's talk about rfk jr. for a moment, he has caused controversy, the new york post has video of him making a claim about covid-19. fact covid-19 --, quote, in there's an argument that it is ethnically targeted. covid-19 is targeted to attack caucasians a black people, the people who are most immune are asking to and chinese. and, yet as we talked about the polling higher than a lot of the other candidates. >> yeah, i mean it's somewhat shocking that he's doing as well as he is up until this moment. especially if you look at some of his track record when it comes to vaccines. the things that he said, he's pretty far out there. so it was only a question at

the time before he stepped into something. this, one i think it's going to be really hard for him to step out. up his entire family is basically on social media right. now distanced-ing themsees from him. he's trying toay that this has been taken out of contests, the question was acts of me this is what i said but i think it's going to be an issue for him, and i don't think it was a real threat to begin with. but i think he just points to the fact that there is an appetite for somebody besides joe biden, and there's an appetite for somebody who's gonna bring up some >> rabbi, your thoughts? >> it's often said the -- weight into conspiracy swamp, the eventual end up with antisemitism, and that happened here. this is antisemitism as one of the oldest conspiracy theories and our civilization, that there is a cabal of people secretly controlling the world, and when you enter into these kinds of non factual, free associated conspiracy theories, eventually, your own counter this conspiracy theory. as a rabbi, this is deeply offensive, and it's fine to

kind of make fun of us to a certain extent, but this is not fun. we and i were talking before, we know people in the jewish community who got very ill with covid early on, where in new york, one at the major four sites of outbreaks was in and sent it around an orthodox jewish community there. the idea at that time, were accused of spreading the play, now we are somehow immune to the plague, and this is one of the oldest and the summit of themes and a book and is referenced. >> france, thank you so much. ron, i owe you one. thank you as well, appreciate you guys being here tonight. we have a cnn exclusive, florida governor and gop presidential candidate ron desantis will join jake tapper one-on-one on the campaign trail, this interview begins for pm tomorrow on cnn. check this out, you're looking at tourists flocking to the flaming mountains in china, where on sunday, temperatures reached 176 degrees. bill weir is here with me to tell us what is going on with the extreme heat and why our

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>> close to 80 million americans under heat alerts today, especially in the southwest, where temperatures have been dangerously hot for 38 consecutive days. the heat continues to break records. listen to this, more than 15 honored places in the u.s. have experienced record high temperatures so far this month. phoenix maybe the hottest, the city just suffered its 18th consecutive day at 110 degrees or hotter. and the heat is on worldwide, china set to set an all-time national temperature is a day at 126 degrees.

and a top climate group is warning of worldwide, quote, heat. what can we do about all this before it's too late? our chief climate correspondent bill weir joins us now. bill, let's talk about why we're in this mess. i know that there are a couple of factors, one is on the new. explain what that is and once that passes, can we go back to some level of normality? >> you'd like to hope, right? >> i would like to. >> there is la niña, which is a natural air conditioning in the oceans, and there is el niño, which is the opposite, a heating phenomenon. it's echoes every two or four years between the two, and the oceans have been covering a multitude of our -- if you imagine heating up a cool backed up with one candle at a time with boiling water, you'll not feel it the way you would if you splash it on your foot. the oceans have been absorbing this, hiding it from us, the full extent of it, and then when la niña is replaced by el niño, boom, we see these records. these heat dome's, these bobs that we are now experiencing on

land, that's been going around the ocean. now it's spread out by so much by september, the prediction is half of the world's oceans will be in a category three or four on a scale of five marine heat wave. so half of the planet, of our ornery plan, it will be overheating, an almost knock off effects on fisheries and coral reefs and even hurricanes, of course, get stronger when the water is warmer. >> do temperatures, let's look at china, northwest trying to, 126, roughly around 125, with 26 this week. how are people so it's supposed to live in those conditions? >> you can't. that is what is so interesting. even in phoenix today, if you say over 110 for two weeks, we can't send their kids outside, four summers. it changes a crops, changes agriculture, changes so many things working outside, it dusted the body, the wet bulb temperature at a certain humidity, your organs began to fail at a certain point. we've seen young, 40-ish, 35

meld men and texas stop that from the heat, a rail worker in italy, perished under the heat, so it is the biggest killer, more than all other national phenomenon combined, or unnatural these days. >> is there anything that heads of states or we as individuals can do? >> it's interesting that you mentioned the heat in china. john kerry, the climate envoy for the u.s. just restarted negotiations with china, they teutopolis. if they're not talking, nothing gets done for the rest of the developing world, so it's good that -- since nancy pelosi made china angry with a visit to taiwan, but i want you to hear what john kerry went to back at home. over there, he tried to convince the chinese they put a target on how much monday will release which is really bad for the planet bacon gas. and stop burning so much coal, but back home, he's facing republican with pressures like this. this is him last week. >> you want to have the american taxpayers by constituents who have a hard

thing to afford groceries, pay for a car, buy a new home, spent 1.6 quadrillion dollars to fix a problem that, a, does not exist and as a matter of fact, you, might be exacerbating because it's unknown. >> why do you think 195 countries in the world, there are prime ministers, their presidents -- >> because they're gifting like you are sir. >> obviously, the problem does not exist. >> that has been sort of the ideology at the party that has the support from oil and gas interest, fossil fuel interest. ultimately, you ask what can be done? that decision is ultimately in the hand of the sweeteners from sonia ramapo, exxonmobil, the petroleum club in houston. there is a small number, relatively small number of massive petrol states and corporations that are causing most of this problem, and they are banking record profits right now and showed no signs of changing that business model. so what has to happen? how much pain has to be felt

for them to lose their public license to keep you into? it's interesting, people don't pick a gas station. climate activists known picket in places that few our lives right now because we're so dependent on these things, but the options, the queen options are now out there in droves and are so economical that it is not stripping any sort of old fossil fuels. it just a matter of how fast the world and how justly the workmanship over, because it is not just a simple problem. the more stuff we burn, the harder it will get. >> bill weir, you always open our eyes. >> i hope so. >> you always do. >> thank you so much, great to have you on tonight. >> thank you so much for watching us on cnn tonight, our coverage continues now. >>h more tide? he does. -we're having g triplets. -no, what does that mean? it means y you're gonna need more tide. -see? -ah. more likes? more tide. everyone's. gonna. need. more.. tide!!!

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