>> tonight, a story we've been following a french. china's foreign minister vanished without a trace. it's been 24 days since he was last seen in public. the trusted aide to president xi jinping has disappeared with no explanation from the government. speculation is running rampant gun chinese social media, which interestingly, the chinese government hasn't censored as it does with most sensitive topics. the chinese ambassador to the united states is tamping down the intense speculation about his whereabouts. when asked earlier if he met with the former u.s. secretary of state henry kissinger, here's the answer. >> let's wait and see. >> thank you for joining us. ac360 joins us now. >> tonight on three 60. what does the special counsel

know? who told them? that's what the trump team is trying to find out. tonight, kaitlan collins joins us for her latest reporting. also tonight, justice department investigating what they called, quote, troubling reports on the texas border authorities allegedly pushing migrants back into the rio grande and denying them water. we'll have a live report from the southern border, and later, new details about what motivated the u.s. army private to race across the dmz and into north korea. good evening, thank you for joining us. a lot to get to tonight. we begin with behind the scenes drama unfolding as the former president faces a possible second federal indictment in as many months. the grand jury, hearing the evidence in this case that is expected to meet tomorrow. and an indictment, if there is, one could come anytime after that. sources tell cnn that the 2020 election case appears to be bigger than trump's legal team may have been expecting, in part because of the wide scoped charges mentioned in the target letter to the former president. there are deprivation of rights, and conspiracy to commit an offense over defraud the united states. and tampering with a witness. that is according to unnamed sources who spoke to multiple news outlets, including the

wall street journal. we should note that these are titles from the u.s. criminal code that cover a broad range of crimes. we will dig into those charges in a moment. the first anchor of the source, kaitlan collins joins us. what more you learned about the presidents -- former president's team responding? >> i was just told a few hours ago that they have still not formally responded to this letter. obviously, the point of this letter, the intention of it is that it affords trump the ability to go before the grand jury and kind of make his case. if somebody has not gone and testified before, the justice department manual says the you should basically inform. them you should inform them. it is unlikely that he's going to do that basically, that would be a major reversal if he does. based on -- they may never respond. they might just let the clock run out until midnight or whatever tomorrow night. i think their team wasn't expecting to get this letter on sunday night as they did. it gave them four days. i have asked several of them, why four days? do you have a sense of why that is the timeline? none of them really have a clear indication of that. i do think that what we should

note is that when trump notified the world yesterday that he had gotten this, it was that they had gotten a call and was going to report it. they went ahead and essentially made their own here. >> yesterday, you are reporting that they are trying to call around to find out if anybody else had received the target letter. nobody had according to them at that point, any word on anybody else? >> still now. i checked in today. that's something that has mystified them. they thought that it would at least be in conjunction with others, that all of these could happen at the same time. they had an indication that trump might get a target letter in this, but they weren't sure what it would look like or definitely did not think it would be the only one. ultimately, i don't think he will be the only one. i think that the others we've talked about those other names, some of them at least will also get target letters here. so far, out of the calls they've made and the calls that we have made, we haven't found a better person. it doesn't mean that it hasn't happened, but it is interesting that the idea that the people speaking with him, applauding these fake elector schemes, what was happening with that,

they haven't done one yet. >> and there were already fundraising off this i assume. >> he did it within minutes of alerting the world yesterday that he had gotten this. i was looking -- obviously these fundraising emails are always borderline crazy when you look at them. i was just reading through one that he sent out a few moments ago and he was essentially saying to his supporters, and i'm quoting from the fund raising emails that trump sent out, that his critics are waiting like vultures circling the skies, waiting and hoping to use our injustice in misfortune for their own personal gain. it's essentially trying to argue that it's a political prosecution that's likely going to happen, and he thinks he's going to be indicted in a matter of days here. they are trying to fund-raise off of it. as you know, this fundraising goes to two packs. one of them is being used to pay his legal feels, and has been for sometime now. in addition to essentially saying this argument that it's an attack on not just trump, but his supporters, he's also raising money to pay as attorneys who are going to be

fighting these charges. >> the grand jury's meeting tomorrow. what is next for them, what would you say? >> we know we're hearing from a personal eight of his. >> what witnesses are testifying? >> he's already testified twice. that's another interesting factor. we're not sure why he's going back for a third time, he could potentially signal the end of what is focusing on trump. iran's really lead reading the tea leaves here. included in that is trump's legal team. they haven't spoken to jack smith's team about this indictment as of recently. it's just a lot of questions when that grandeur he is going to be done. i should note, they are still talking to people, the former new york city police commissioner. i talked to his attorney last night. he said the jack smith wants to talk to his client, but they haven't set a date yet. he is still going, and we just don't know when. >> kaitlan will be back at 9:00 with the source. a reminder you can see here then on cnn, 9:00. i'm joined now by cnn analyst, legal analyst, norm eisen, he served as special counsel for the house democrats during the former president's first impeachment. george conway, conservative --

and contributor for the washington post. george, i want to start with the cnn reporting that the trump team is looking for evidence or witnesses that they are unaware of who might have been cooperating, or that the special counsel might have. the potential charges listed in the target letter suggest to them a bigger case against trump than they were expecting. does that surprise you? >> it does not surprise me that there would be a big case brought against donald trump. i think that's the way this whole investigation has been pointed, that's the direction it's been pointed out for a very long time. i think his conduct is critical in a number of ways with regard to the incitement of the insurrection, and more importantly, i think that they are going to be focusing on the electors who attempted to influence mike pence. i don't think that -- it is surprising that there's such a big hit and they might be caught off guard in terms of the timing. they might have thought that fani willis, they expected her to go first for a long time and it did not expect mr. smith to

go so quickly. particularly after the work he's done in the other -- the mar-a-lago documents investigation. apparently he is ready to go. it certainly sounds that way. >> norm, you co-a memo assessing potential federal charges the special counsel could bring against the former president. how does your assessment matchup with the three statutes of the target letter that he could potentially be charged with. deprivation of rights, and conspiracy to commit an offense or d for the united states and tampering with the witness. >> anderson, it lines are pretty tightly. you've got the fake electoral certificates. the conspiracy against the united states. it's a fraud. when one candidate wins the presidency and the other candidate tries to stay in power and prevent that person from taking office, you have voters referred to in a letter as threatening a witness. i think that that is a reference to 18 usc 15 12.

that's the official caption. subsection ceo of that is interfering with an official proceeding. i think that's what's being targeted there. we wrote about that in our memo. of course, that is act to, if you will, when donald trump took those fake electoral certificates and tried to use them in early january to pressure mike pence not to do his duty. finally, you have a conspiracy to affect civil rights or privileges. that's what we talked about as act three. we consider, that's the insurrection. that's the violence when all else fails. we liked it that through the lens of the insurrection act, but section 2:41, or 2:42 of 18 u.s. sea is also a good fit. when donald trump unleashed the violence against mike pence, congress, he was interfering with their rights and

privileges to do their job on january six. in a sense, he was interfering with the right of every american, because he was trying to stop the recognition of the rightful president. it is not really a surprise, the direction he's going in. >> george, there had been somebody who thought there might be an insurrection charge. we spoke to early honig on the program last night, he didn't think the special counsel needed the drama of an insurrection charge, that it was a bridge perhaps too far before jack smith chased. it does not need to prove the trump is trying to overthrow the government of the united states. do you agree with that? >> i do think that it's not necessary to bring an insurrection case as such, but i think the statutes that norman and his terrific volume, he and his colleagues preparing on the very statutory possibility series. it's absolutely right. you can defraud the united states by simply submitting false information, false certificates. you can also obstruct the congressional proceeding through violence or fraud. i think it's important to take

a step back here and just remember that there are just dozens of possible state and federal crimes at issue here. in the private sector or public sector, if you engage in lying or violence, and particular here the line, and you encourage people to sign falls to arguments, make false representations, and you know that they're false, they're usually any number of statues that could be used. >> norma, how soon do you think of former presidents indictment might come? >> anderson, it could be as soon as this week. the grand jury will have to vote on the charges. they will be under seal initially. if the special counsel follows his prior procedures of giving every courtesy to a former president of the united states, he will probably give the defendant notice. he will then go to court to unsealed the indictment. could be this week, could be

next week. donald trump may, as he's done before, rushed to put his own spin on it before the indictment is unsealed, before smith can speak. we know that the former president and his lawyers trying to take any advantage. >> cnn is also reporting that the trump team has not identified anybody else who received a target letter, according to sources. i'm wondering how you read into that. doesn't mean that other trump associates aren't being charged? do you think there are other targets that haven't been revealed yet? it also raises questions about if there is somebody who is cooperating? is a mark meadows, who has kind of disappeared from the scene. is he perhaps cooperating? >> i think it's very difficult to read that. we don't know whether or not target letters went out to people and they're just keeping their mouth shut. we don't know whether or not it could be that this some people get charged, and there might not be a target letter. there are circumstances where prosecutors do that. i defer to the former federal

prosecutors, we talked about that. i also think that the last possibility to me is always the most intriguing. other people who are cooperating? we saw it in the documents case, there is basically only one person that did not end up cooperating in some way, which is that, walt nauta. we have seen some very strange quietness from mark meadows, for example. i just had the feeling that something is going on there. he is somebody that needs to be every bit as exposed as donald trump. and yet he has been so quiet and they're just -- it just seems like there's something i put them. >> it will be intriguing to see. george conway, thank, you norm eisen as well. joined now for a reaction of these charges by somebody who is badly hurt trying to defend the u.s. capitol and those in it in january 6th. michael fanone, now a cnn legal law enforcement analyst.

good to have you on the program. this is obviously deeply personal for you and for so many, the law enforcement personnel who are there that they're risking their lives. i'm wondering what you make of what we've seen in the last day or so in terms of these charges, or potential charges. >> better late than never. i am grateful for the commitment of the members of the department of justice to pursue justice in this case, and to seek what appears to be an indictment against the former president. >> a lot of coke republicans are using the line that this is just the weaponization of the justice department. earlier today, kevin mccarthy was impressed by cnn if he would respect the results of the investigation. i want to play for you what he said. >> i don't see how he could be found criminally responsible. what criminal activity did he

do? he told people to be peaceful. >> that's the same kevin mccarthy who, right after january 6th, said that the former president bears responsibility for the attack. then he changed his mind weeks later. >> i mean, it has become a national disgrace that we have so many elected members of our government who seem incapable of acting in the best interest of our country. kevin mccarthy is at the forefront of that group. >> it doesn't surprise you though. i remember you writing in your book about a meeting that you are at with kevin mccarthy. you're not as surprised by the way that he's playing this. >> yes, i mean, i wasn't naive prior to january 6th like many americans. if there is one fact that has been solidified in my mind, it's that our politicians are

full of ship. and at this point in time, the republican party seems to be winning the race with that regard. >> would you -- i know you are not an attorney. the three charges were mentioned and in this letter and inciting an insurrection was -- to commit an offense and -- before the united states, tampering with a witness, and there's a lot of potential crimes within those descriptions. those are just the the headlines for the statutes. there is not, in terms of a potential indictment -- charge for inciting an insurrection. does that matter to you? >> no. i am very comfortable with these charges. and i am somebody who has followed this case very closely, in addition to my participation in the defense of the capitol

on january 6th, i attended every one of the select committee's hearings. but if there is one thing i do know, it's that no one knows this case better than jack smith, and the prosecutors on his team, far better than me. and i want to read from you a 2017 doj memorandum, which pretty much sums up, i think, why these charges were selected, and what their motivations are. it is a core principle that prosecutors should charge and pursue the most serious, readily prove-able offenses. this policy affirms our responsibility to enforce the law, he's moral and just, and produces consistency. i have had many arguments with prosecutors over the course of my 20 year career. but i never questioned their commitment. and i never questioned their oath to the constitution.

in going back to republican lawmakers, we have a whole host of republicans running for president. and it seems to escape them the ability to simply comment on the trump pending indictment with the statement that our justice system is not perfect, but it is darn near perfect, and the best in the world. and we should trust the process, and trust the career prosecutors at the department of justice who served under a variety of administrations, both republican and democrat, and whose oath is to the constitution and to pursue justice. >> michael fanone, i appreciate you being with us tonight. thank you. >> thank you. >> the republicans who are condemning these potential charges on capitol hill are doing so without knowing what exactly the charges might be. none of us know exactly what the charges might be, if they are going to be charges at all.

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to -- that candidates in the field who still won -- the support of his base. will hurd is a former three term republican congressman. he said, quote, last night, he said, news flash, if you are afraid of donald trump, then you are not ready to be president of the united states, unquote. another republican president for candy joins us now. former arkansas governor asa hutchins. the governor, appreciate you being with us -- michael fanone, who is badly injured, almost killed on january six, defending the capitol. he questioned why so few republican candidates are standing up for law enforcement and public service servants. i'm wondering, what do you think so many who are running for the republican nomination for president are not saying, we trust the process, we trust the department of justice to do their job? >> well, first of all, i appreciate the officers service and his sacrifice for our country. and whatever you look at what republicans are saying, absolutely, we should not dismiss the seriousness of the allegations. i said repeatedly that, when it

comes to january 6th and the attack on the capital, donald trump is morally responsible. now, it is another question as to whether he is criminally responsible. and, of course, we need to wait until we see exactly the charges. we need to see this play out. but we should not be dismissed. and we should not undermine the rule of law. and that's probably the most troubling thing about the continued comments of donald trump, that it serves not just simply to protect himself, but he makes fun of the system of justice in our country that is the world's greatest. it's not perfect. it's made up of humans. but at the same time, it served us well, and everything he has done has undermined that rule of law and confidence in our law enforcement and the fbi, and those that carry out, really, incredibly difficult duties. and that's why, this week, i announced my reform of federal law enforcement, showing support for him, but at the

same time, trying to narrow the mission of the fbi to provide more focus and accountability. it's the way to approach it. when you see an error, let's fix it. at the same time, supporting law enforcement, we support the department of justice, and our system of laws in this country. trying to fix, is this constant criticism is really undermining our democracy in this country. >> speaker kevin mccarthy's initial response yesterday to the letter that the former president received is essentially saying that this is the weaponization of the doj, that president biden saw the poll numbers of the former president going up and weaponize the doj against him. do you believe the doj has been weaponized against the former president? >> i've been a federal prosecutor, and i know the

independence of the u.s. attorneys and there decision-making is two and charges are brought. in this case, you have a special prosecutor it even has a higher level of independents. i don't know if any specific proof that they've been shaped as to the judgments that they make. you criticize jack smith, that he's made the wrong judgment, but i don't see right now any evidence that's been improperly influenced. we have to look at the facts and follow the facts. i think about the decision ejects mid had to make. whenever you have hundreds of participants in that attack being held accountable and criminally prosecuted. if you see evidence that the former president is responsible for bringing in their and encouraging the attack on the capital, you are in a very difficult position. and as a prosecutor, when you make those decisions, when you

bring the charges are not. we should not underestimate the challenge of this. i think it's given week are these points that you have an elements of speech here of a candidate addressing a rally. we've seen from democrats and republicans that kind of speech gets fiery sometimes. this is a challenge that every prosecutor -- obviously, jack smith has done his homework. he's got the evidence that he feels comfortable with. i see it as it's laid out in the indictment to exactly what those charges are. >> i'd like to play a clip from when you spoke at a turning point action conference, a very pro trump organization in west palm beach, florida, i just want to play this barriers.

>> how difficult is it for you? obviously on that stage, very difficult to get your message to breakthrough in that obvious. i don't know if that's symbolic. when you are out there, how difficult do you think it is right now for you to get your message three when there is that kind of support from the former presidents backers and supporters? >> it is difficult in that environments. overall, when i go to iowa, new hampshire, a very receptive message to my conservative -- in the history, as well as my vision for this country has how we can lead again, we can have a pro growth energy policy. how we can control federal spending. these are conservative principles and are very well received. at this turning point conference, i want to emphasize that while it was difficult, i

did get my message out. but was wonderful is it the young people that were there were very well behaved. it is the adults did not set the right example. going to give a heads up to the young people there and it was really well received. i'm glad for that opportunity to speak to them and inspire them. >> asa hutchinson, thanks for your time tonight. >> great to be with you, anderson. >> coming up next, i have a hearing on the allegations and hunter biden descending into chaos. the details ahead on what sarah. >> this is ludicrous. beam me up, scotty, there is no intelligent life down here. none.

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>> on capitol hill, house oversight committee hearing descended into chaos. two irs whistleblowers testified before the committee, alleging the justice department slow walk to the criminal investigation into hunter biden, the president son. the identity of one of those whistleblowers was revealed today for the first time. house republicans jumped on the allegation. the case was mishandled. further proof of a politicized justice department -- democrats on the committee pushed back.

-- joins me now with more. was anything new learn today, melanie zanona? i >> would say anything new, necessarily, was learned, but the hearing did bring to light estimate that was previously behind closed doors and that really cause a firestorm among republicans on capitol hill. you have these two irs whistleblowers who testified publicly today that the doj interviewed and slow walked the criminal case into hunter biden, over attacks and gun charges, at that they didn't take recommendations for more serious charges. and at the center of these allegations, really, is this october 2022 meeting involving david weiss. he is the trump-appointed u.s. attorney who is overseeing it is hunter biden case, and one of the irs whistleblowers, gary shapleigh, was in that meeting. and he claims that, during the meeting, whitehead said he does not have charging authority, and that he sought special special counsel status but was denied. now, weiss himself has vigorously denied the account of that meeting. the doj has also denied all wrongdoing. but clearly, there is still a lot of questions around this

meeting. and it might not be cleared up until if and when congress is able to hear from weiss himself, anderson. >> and it's not going to happen? >> the doj is going to -- appropriate time. but it is very unlikely that he would appear while this case is still open and ongoing. that is certainly something to look out for and certainly something republicans will be present. >> and how to democrats on the committee respond? >> so, democrats really used this as a high-profile opportunity to poke holes in these whistleblower allegations. and one way that they try to do that was really question gary shapley's understanding of that critical october 2018 meeting. let's listen to jamie raskin, the top democrat on the committee. >> it seems to me this october -- 22 meeting, which you described as a red line, is just a misunderstanding. that's after the u.s. attorney -- declined a partner on the 14 15 charges, mr. weiss took a good, hard look at those charges himself, and ultimately decided not to charge them, and therefore, not to seek the special attorney status.

he may have been right about that. he may have been wrong. as you guys make your case for -- but it was his decision. isn't that right, mr. gary shapley? >> no, that's not supported by the facts. >> really, well, what facts is it not supported by? >> his own admission -- meeting. >> and democrats also point out that disagreements about charging decisions are actually quite common in these types of cases, and that republicans -- or, these two irs whistleblowers actually only had a small slice of the investigation. they are only privy to a part of it. and so democrats, essentially, arguing here that republicans don't know the full picture and are just trying to cherry pick a narrative to fit their narrative, anderson. >> all right, melanie zanona, appreciate. it, unexpected news from ukraine for a third night -- russian rockets are taking aim at the port city of odessa. we will take you there. also, he's been in my since the failed meeting in russia last month, now a new, grainy video surface that appears to show wagner mercenary boss yevgeny prigozhin alive and talking to some of his fighters. the details are ahead. and a witness shares what she saw when u.s. soldier travis

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>> a witness is sharing what

she saw when u.s. army private travel skiing right across the border into north korea win on a tour of the demilitarized buffer dividing the north and the south. this is a photo she took during that tour. you can see the back of kings head. he's wearing a black hat, shirt, and standing with the tourists. the 23-year-old was supposed to head back to the u.s. this weekend face disciplinary action from the u.s. military for a separate incident. now private king is in the custody of north korea's regime. and will ripley joins us from near the unification bridge and -- korean demilitarized zone. so, we'll, you see there are new details from a witness, i understand, who is in that core group that king which avon with. what have you learned? >> yeah. she's a tourist from new zealand. there were about 40 people who were on that tour group. and it would have had to pass by this unification, bridge which is where we are standing right now. this is actually the closest that we are allowed to get. because all tours have been suspended. but on the day that this happened, king and the other tourists, they were on a bus, and a pass by the checkpoint here. this is the gateway to unification.

they keep driving past all of this barbwire, the checkpoints, and they get to this joint security area less than five miles down the road there. now, in order for him to actually be able to get out of the bus and into this highly sensitive area, he was on a passenger manifest that would have been approved by the united nations command here. apparently that manifest must have been approved. there were no red flags, even though he had what was -- supposed to be on a flight out for disciplinary action back in the united states and texas, after serving almost 50 days in a detention facility here in south korea. and then, what happened next was pretty fast, according to the tourists from new zealand, who told that's what happened. >> someone ran close to me, very fast. and i thought, what is going on? he -- i didn't think anyone who was sane would want to go to north korea. so, i assumed it was some kind of stunt to run to the north korean border fence and have someone filament, or something

like that, a couple of seconds after. i saw him that's when the shoulders soldiers shouted in started running -- >> now, the officers that were there they try to get, him but there were no shots fired, which is very different, anderson, from when people try to cross from the north into the south. and that exact same area there actually was a soldier from north korea that successfully made a crossing. but his colleagues in north korea opened fire on him and he was seriously injured before they successfully retrieved him here in the south. we don't know exactly where private king is now. he was whisked away in a north korean van. and the north koreans have not had any, at least, publicly, any contact with the united states, because they don't have any open lines of communication right now. -- going to have a lot of questions for him about his military service here in south korea. and it could be quite some time, analysts say, before we even know what his status is, frankly. >> and what we know about what may have prompted him to do this? >> well, he was facing, as i said, disciplinary action in texas. he was going to be, basically, kicked out of the army after getting into an assault, some

sort of assault type charge here in south korea that had him serving almost 50 days in a detention center. it was described as -- he was actually doing labor in south korea. whether he felt that the future in the united states was bleak enough that he wanted to book this tour and try his luck in north korea, there have been other u.s. service members who have been defected to north korea, but we are talking about more than 40 years ago the, last case. most of those other service members did actually stay in north korea, with the exception of one of them. about half a dozen cases in total -- some of them turned up on north korean. movies others had their sons turned up in north korean propaganda, even in recent years, speaking korean, talking about the value of the north korean system. but things are very different. and the valley with having an american in north korea for propaganda purposes is not what it used to be, anderson. so, we really just have to wait and see what happens in this case. >> we are, play thanks so much. the breaking news now from ukraine, where, for third, night rush has been bombarding the port city of odessa in the southern part of the country. this video just, and you see ukraine air defense repelling the russian air attack -- alex marquardt is in odessa

tonight in joins us now. what are you -- and your team -- 's what have you been hearing? >> well, anderson, this has been an extremely intense night of attacks on the city. and that is saying something after what we saw last, night just a staggering attack that the mayor said earlier today was the worst on the city since the beginning of the war. the city is completely blacked out, anderson. there is not a single light in these buildings. that is likely a preventative measure. i'm also keeping my voice down. we can see a spotlight up in the sky. -- presumably searching for drones. it is quiet right now. this is a rare moment of quiet in the past two hours. the attack lasting, if it continues, now, an hour and 45 minutes -- and russia really does appear to have stepped things up, at least in terms of the types of weapons that they use tonight. we know at least eight long-range supersonic strategic bombers took flight. they are armed with all kinds of cruise missiles, including the biggest cruise missile that

russia has been using, the kindle kindle -- we've seen intercepting rockets, interceptor rockets flying up into the sky and very notably, anderson, we know that these drones have been attacking the city over the past three days. but tonight we could hear them and the sound -- you could hear the worrying engine. it sounds like a very large mosquito. and that just speaks to how close they came. in terms of the destruction, that we don't know right now. after last night's attack there was significant destruction in the port. that, presumably, is one of the main targets, if not the main target for the russians. we did hear president zelenskyy earlier today accusing russia of going after the grain infrastructure, after russia pulled out of that deal. anderson, this city is -- it knows attacks well. it has come under all kinds of attacks since the beginning of the war. but the fact that this has gone on, now three nights in a row,

russia is sending a very strong message here, anderson. >> alex, thank you. be careful. tonight, there is new grainy video, with four lighting, that may be a sign of life or it wagner boss yevgeny prigozhin. this is the video. it was posted on telegram today. it appears to show prigozhin greeting his fighters in belarus, and it may be the first video of him in public since -- leaving a failed rebellion against kremlin last month. that was the last video that we have seen after leaving russ to fontaine. cnn's nick paton walsh joins us now with more. what we know about this video, about his alleged citing? >> yeah, it's -- if indeed that -- is authentic on the telegram channels, that's been released, to just suggest it may have been filmed at right about escalate tuesday. so, yesterday your time -- and it appears to be corroborated to some degree by geolocation work done by cnn against video filmed on the ground from one of the camps, which bella is put aside for wagner fighters, under the steel, which was hatched by

belarus's president alexander lukashenko, essentially, to get yevgeny prigozhin to turn his horses around on the way to moscow -- putin -- so, suggestion from that video that there may be some authenticity behind. it put out the same, time as, well satellite images over the last 72 hours appear to show a buildup of vehicles in that same area as well. so, the balance -- perhaps leaning towards this being may be the first time we have seen yevgeny prigozhin in public for a whole 25 days, since the end of that failed mutiny when he appeared in the back of an suv in rostov, anderson. >> you also spoke with the head of britain's foreign intelligence service. what was his take on what happened between precocious and putin lost one? >> yeah, startling to hear the kind of candor,, really from richard moore, the head of mi6, giving a rare speech in prague in which, essentially, i think, he confirmed for the first time that western intelligence believe what we saw in public

from the kremlin was also what was happening behind closed doors in private. now, and it's important to point out, because so much of what we hear from the kremlin is, essentially, you know, smoke and mirrors and deception. it seems, really, that the chaos we saw on the surface was the real deal. but he went also to talk about how putin really showed pretty strong weakness when it came down to what he referred to as cutting a deal to save his own skin. and he also talked about exactly how putin had flip-flopped over prigozhin during that particular weekend at the end of june. here is what he had to say. >> if you look at putin's behaviors on that day, prigozhin started off, i think, as a traitor at breakfast. he had been pardoned by supper. and then a few days later he was invited 40. for tea. -- try and interpreting her for it in terms of who is in and who is out. >> i think in this rare public

appearance, speaking on the record about this confidential assessment by western intelligence, there was a sense of, frankly, persistent bewilderment about what had happened around the kremlin during that period of time. it's hard even for them to always analyze, given the depth of information they often have available to them. but he used this moment here in prague, i think, to emphasize the weakness of those around putin, and make an abnormal appeal, essentially, to say to those disaffected russians, part of the league, bring your secrets to mi6, to british intelligence, spy for the west. now, that is not something you often hear being said in public. but i think it shows that basically, they see this as a very different, unprecedented moment for the kremlin, and it was startling, i, think to see that there was not some complex private explanation of what has been happening inside the kremlin during that period of time. it really was just as chaotic as it seemed on the surface in their interpretation,.

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the department of justice is assessing reports from the southern border where texas state troopers are saying there's an effort to push migrants back into the rio grande. from the texas department of safety has received additional complaints over the treatment of migrants. they include some videos, although not clear over what

exactly those videos may show. top officials including texas governor greg abbott are denying any orders that would compromise the lives of those attempting to cross illegally but there is increased scrutiny about the measures the government is taking including a new floating barrier on the rio grande. >> we're in the middle of the rio grande. >> reporter: jesse grew up riding the waters in eagle pass, texas. in 2015, he turned his passion into a business launching the canoe and kayak. what was business like? >> it was beautiful. >> reporter: he even organized races on the river. but not anymore. >> we're securing the border at the border. >> reporter: governor greg abbott has deployed wire, shipping containers and most recently, 1,000 feet of floating border barrier and netting on the river. tell buoys are four feet in diameter and anchored to the bottom of the waterway. >> a strategy that no state has

ever before deployed. to stop people from entering texas illegally. >> reporter: the state of texas did not exactly follow the law when it started installing the buoys on the rio grande. according to the state department, a series of treaties governed the uses of the water on the rio grande and texas, not only didn't consult with the u.s. federal government before installing the buoys, it didn't obtain a permit. >> it used to be a beautiful pristine island. >> reporter: he points to an isle on the river that he says texas strid. here's what the island looked like on google earth. here's what it looks like now. the island is gone. the vegetation is dead. a road and concertina wire is taking its place. >> it made me want to cry. >> reporter: fuentes filed the lawsuit saying the buoys will prevent him from making a living. and mexico's top diplomat complained to washington saying the buoys violate two treaties

between the countries, including one that prohibits construction that deflects or obstructs the flow of the river. mexico is also concerned the buoys may be on their territory. >> this is our property. >> reporter: they say they, too, have complained about texas. but for installing concertina wire on their land and not removing it. >> have they taken over our prime property? yes. >> reporter: the most alarming part of it all is what they say they witnessed. migrants needing help and texas national guard members just standing there. >> i asked, aren't you all going to help? and they just sat there and they said we can't. we can't get on to your property. they told us not to get on the property. they told us not even to give them water. and i said, fine. and then i just turned around and we just kept helping people out. >> reporter: texas national guard denies the allegations.

the account come after texas dps released emails showing top brass acknowledging an increase in migrant injuries from concertina wire. a texas state trooper blowing the whistle about a 19-year-old stuck on the wire while having a miscarriage afrlt 4-year-old passed out due to exhaustion. and about being ordered to push migrants into the river and denying them water. allegations the agency denies. the county sheriff tom said he's never witnessed a trooper's mistreat migrants but he's worried the buoys could mean more migrant deaths. >> i hope that i'm wrong. i think we'll have some people drawn in. >> i want to be that voice for the river. the river can't speak for itself. >> reporter: are you afraid of going against the state of texas? >> am i afraid? no. is my business suffering? yeah. is my heart suffering, yes. >> rosa joins us now from eagle pass where the buoys are going in the water.

is the federal government planning to do anything about the buoys? >> the federal government said it is aware of what is going on. take a look. you will see the buoys here are still on the river. and regarding jesse fuentes, the gentleman that you met in our story, he's waiting for his first hearing to be set. and one of the things he'll be asking for is for these buoys to be removed. but back to the government. the doj said it is aware. that it knows of the troubling reports of what's going on in the state of texas. it's unclear if the biden administration will actually do something about it, if they will take legal action. as you know, president joe biden has been critical. what is going on here in the state of texas and on the border. >> rosa flores, thanks. we'll be right back.

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