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u.s. soldier believed to be detained in north korea tonight after crossing the heavily fortified demilitarized zone. a witness said she saw him bolt across the border. you will hear her account. plus, the music video that is rocking the world of country music and beyond. why jason's chart topper was pulled by country music television. i'm kaitlan collins and this is "the source." good evening. we start this evening with how trump is adding more fire power to his team as he is bracing for another potential indictment from the special counsel. as we know, trump shocked the world when he announced yesterday he had gotten that target letter from jack smith's team. now i have learned that he is quietly added a new criminal defense attorney in reason weeks to his team. i'm told that a former federal prosecutor turn white collar attorney will be joining that
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team. that team that is focused on what could be an indictment in the coming days. he'll be focused on the january 6th investigation and of course, that come after last month when trump was indicted in the documents case. two of his key attorneys departed his team. one of them who is very familiar with the january 6th investigation. now trump is adding a flew person to that team. of course, as they are trying to figure out more about that potential indictment. what evidence does jack smith have, what witnesses has he spoken to that trump and list team are unaware of? of course, i should note, john is part of that group reaching out to trump and others in his orbit to find out who else might have gotten a target letter. so far they have not uncovered anyone else who has gotten a target letter in the january 6th probe. meanwhile, the grand jury that is hearing evidence is expected to hear more from other witnesses tomorrow. one going back for his third visit before the grand jury. we have learned that trump's
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team has been asking around to see about those other potential witnesses, the other potential evidence as they are trying to learn more, embracing for another indictment potentially. as we know, donald trump has until tomorrow night, given the target letter to answer that. but sources say it is highly doubtful that he would accept an offer to testify himself. after that, his legal team is going to be on indictment watch. tonight they are already bracing for it. all of this is coming as we are learning what kind of charges trump might be facing. this is included in that target letter that he got. according to multiple news outlets, there are three federal statutes included in the letter that trump's team got sunday night. deprivation of rights, conspiracy to commit an offense or defraud the united states, and witness tampering. serious crime and historic time. let's bring in someone who was once in that inner circle of trump's. joining me now, john bolton.
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thank you for joining me tonight. what do you make of the fact that the former president and your former boss is on the verge of being potentially indicted in this case. >> well, we haven't seen the indictment yet. i agree it certainly looks like one is coming almost any day. we don't know the exact scope of it which could have a big influence. i have to say, this being the third indictment. not having seen a really political impact negative to trump in the first two. if anything it helped bolster his stature with supporters. a third or even a fourth indictment i don't think will change that much politically. i think the single most important question now on the legal side is whether any of these cases actually get to trial before the 2024 election. that is what will be important. not this indictment or that indictment or the next indictment. which case if any gets to trial and does he get convicted? >> yeah. we saw his attorneys in court
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for the documents investigation this week. essentially arguing if they do have the case, that it should be for mid-november of next year. on do you think it is fair for voters to go to the polls, to cast their votes if they don't know what the outcome of that trial or these trials potentially could be? >> no. any defendant is entitled to time to prepare his defense. but as they say, justice delayed is justice denied. if trump really wanted justice, he would be saying, i want to go to trial as soon as possible and remove this cloud from over may candidacy. that's not what he wants to do. i happen to think his attorneys in the documents case made a substantial mistake by putting it farley directly to the judge. they don't want the case before the election. that shows the real strategy. and when you think about it, it is shocking. it may be difficult to have a traffic jam with all the cases
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but i think it is the court's duty to make sure the public's interest is serve as well. the defendant has a legitimate interest in time to prepare his or her defense. i think in this case, giving special privileges to someone just because they're a candidate for president is not consistent with the notion of one law for all. >> one avenue that we know jack submitted has been pushing, this idea that trump knew that he lost the election. is it clear to you that he did at that time? >> i think that's the central difficulty with what may come from the january 6th investigation. it is why i personally think it is the documents case that is the most important. trump will have a lot of ways to say i thought i had a legitimate reason to believe i thought the election was stolen. there will be witnesses the say, well, we told him that he lost and he wouldn't accept it. but there were other people, maybe crazy people, but they
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were telling him it had been stolen. so i think the intercept issue is difficult. i think that's where the focus will be. >> you said in august that trump said the only way he could lose was if it was rigged. you were talking about the people who were around trump. we've talked about team normal versus team crazy. do you expect sydney powell, the ungentleman eastmans, they -- the john eastmans, they should be indicted? >> i think the key witnesses could be people like rudy giuliani or marshall meld owes to whom trump may have said something that is very hard for him to dodge. really showing that he lost. he said a lot of things in the nature of, how could i lose to that fill in the blank bozo joe biden.
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some people say that shows he knew he lost. he could easily argue it shows the opposite. that of course he couldn't lose to that bozo joe biden. therefore it must have been stolen. and i think the worst outcome in any of these cases from the public interest of keeping trump from being president again, is that he is acquitted or gets a hung jury because that feeds directly into his argument that he's being persecuted. so a lot rides on this. a win here could shake up this election. an acquittal or a hung jury could give trump the republican nomination for sure. and might win him the election. speaker kemccarthy said tha trump bears responsibility. he is now saying he doesn't think trump has any criminal culpability. he said i don't see how he could be held criminally responsible on january 6th for those efforts
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to overturn the election. do you disagree with that? >> well, it depends on what this indictment says. i think the better thing for republican leaders to be saying is this case is now in the criminal justice process and i'm that going to comment on it. that was the tradition in american politics. it was a good tradition. i think from what has been reported about the target letter that trump received on sunday was that i could see an indictment here that doesn't deal with january 6th at all, as many have commented. it could be part of smith's strategy to separate the case into different indictments. we'll know soon enough, i think. >> whufr en you worked for him, you think it would be a situation like this, twice indicted, maybe thrice indicted? >> i just felt that his desire
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to take advantage of the judicial system, in my book i referred to it as obstruction of justice as a way of life. it wasn't that he played close to the edge. he didn't acknowledge there were edges. it was probably only a matter of time that he did something that could result in an actual criminal trial. but again, the equities here, a prosecutor has to decide. many of trump's critics, of whom i'm one, miss the point. it's not impeachment that stops him. it's not indictment that stops him. it's conviction. if you impeach and you fail to convict, you don't could not strain him. you empower him. if you indict and fail to convict, you could elect him president again. >> ambassador bolton, thank you for your time. for more on what we're learning about the special counsel's investigation, i want
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to bring in one of the foremost experts on election law. ben ginsberg. he also testified as an expert before the house january 6th congressional committee. thank you so much for being hear. when you hear the reporting about the three statutes that are allegedly cited in this letter. that is what trump is ultimately charged with. which one do you think is the most important? >> well, it really depends on what the facts that jack smith presents are. if there is a case with broad conspiracy with lots of information that we don't know yet, then any of the three could be serious. it the deprivation of rights count is probably the most interesting. that could open up a discussion. the proof that trump would have to make that his charge of rigged elections is true. and it would be a worth while
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exercise for the american people to actually hear if donald trump can make that case. >> well, that also stood out to me. the other two, we kind of knew about. they could be an option. that's what the january 6th committee recommended to the justice department. the one you're talking about was enacted after the civil war. essentially, as "the new york times" sums this up, it was to provide a tal for agents to go after kkk. it was trump facing prosecution on accusations of trying to rig the election himself. >> yes. that goes to what you were talking about earlier with ambassador bolton, which is his intent. not only intent. the knowledge that he had, and what he was doing told. remember, that there were 64 court cases after the election. he lost all of them.
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14 of them never got to -- were dismissed on procedural grounds. 14 he voluntarily dismissed. over 30 were hearings on the merits. he couldn't prove the fraud that he said in any of the cases. if it now comes back to his intent. there could be a thorough examination of what he knew and whether there is any validity at all to the, to the charges that the elections are rigged. >> and obviously, jack smith has been able to do a lot more. the power of his subpoena packs a punch. how much more evidence do you think he's been able to get than the january 6th committee was? >> a couple of hints on that. first of all, the documents case when it produced showed a far more in depth investigation than anyone had seen coming. secondly, you saw the january 6th committee report. and the number.
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witnesses who did not talk the them. who managed to stiff arm the congressional committee and not give information. what is interesting is that jack smith has been able to talk the those people. and the attempts to invoke executive privilege or attornatto attorney-client privilege have been reject by the courts. so you know jack smith has been able to gather far more evidence than the january 6th committee was able to. >> yeah. mike pence, for example. so many of the officials. and you've been outspoken about the state of democracy and preserving it. we've seen a preview of what trump's defense could look like. he said things like he has the right to question the election. did he a will the more than that. he tried to overturn the election. in your view, how big of a moment is this for the country in preserving the democracy?
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>> i think it is a huge moment. we are in a precarious situation, more than we have been in a long time. we have a very polarized country. that has happened before. but the number of people in this country who doubt the veracity and reliability of our elections is at an all time high. now you've got an indicted former president running for office in an election which he claimed was rigged. that is under any definition a toxic mix. so jack smith's ability to be able to lay out facts that we haven't seen yet. the theory of what donald trump may have done to stand in the way of the will of the people in the election is a huge moment for the country. >> a huge moment for the country. thank you for joining us tonight. also, breaking news tonight. russia is targeting the port
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city of odessa. it is the third night in a row that they've been bombarding them. at least eight russian aircraft are flying in the black sea. this come days after they terminated the grain deal. we'll be there live on the ground in just a moment. >> also, just weeks away from the debate. some candidates are still scrambling to flake stage. donald trump has not committed to taking the stage. when migraine strikes, you're faced with a choice. ride it out with the tradeoffs of treating?
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we are a little more than five weeks away from the first republican debate in wisconsin. what is that debate stage going to look like? a reminder, the republican national committee sets criteria for candidates to qualify. that means all of them will likely not be up there. right now, donald trump would easily meet those requirements, but so far, he has said he's not planning to show up in milwaukee for that first debate. the chair of the republican national committee said she thinks that's a mistake. >> i think he should be on the stage. i want everybody on the stage that qualifies. i think it is a mistake to not do the debates but that is up to him and his campaign. >> mike pence, i should note, was asking new hampshire voters to donate a dollar to his campaign because he has yet to qualify for that stage. joining me now, what do you think that debate stage is shaping up to look like?
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we've got this new poll out of new hampshire among like living primary voters. trump is at 37%. ron desantis at 23. tim scott at 8. then chris christie, doug and the others. nikki haley and others. >> i think it will be really interesting. i don't know how crowded it will be once you factor that that they have to get a small number of small dollar donors. and the polling criteria are a little bit unusual. it is not clear which polls will count. i think that donald trump would be making a police take to sit out this debate. we know he's done it before. in 2016 one of the debates he sat out. counter programmed. made his own show. but i think he is going to want to have the opportunity to prove that he's better than ron desantis. i don't think he can let that go by. >> what do you make of the rnc chair to have to go on fox, a channel she knows he watches -- >> and beg?
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>> your word. >> please, baby, please. i think it is pathetic. i think he's making a mistake. somebody else could do something extraordinary. tim scott is a really compelling figure. he's a unifier. if he doesn't have to dodge weird nickname from donald trump, he can break through. and when you break through, you can get a snow ball going. remember, barack obama was down. this is like you have a big toddler wandering around doing whatever he wants to. and the rnc chairman is walking around saying please eat your peas. >> and his super pac has a ton of money. trump was on fox last night talking about something that he's at odds with, with people
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like go the rnc chair and people in his party. he said this about it. >> bad things happen to those ballots also. they're sent in early and where are they? look. we have very corrupt elections. >> he's criticizing early voting as they're rolling out the early voting program. >> it's one thing to say i wish we would go back to the prepandemic way we did it. there's the reality that we're in. mail-in voting, absentee voting, these have been expanded and largely here to stay. you have to run an election in reality. if the republicans bail on early voting, absentee voting, in states lake florida, they've had advantages. they are leaving votes on the table. >> do not listen to this woman, republicans. listen to donald trump.
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don't vote early. please be quiet. for the one time i agree with donald trump. don't vote early. >> they're discouraging it. this is something that the white house is i think issing back and laughing at. he tweeted this video saying he fully endorsed it. it is surprising because it is marjorie taylor greene. she thought she was criticizing president biden but he used it as and endorse many. >> joe biden had the largest public investment in social infrastructure and environmental program that is actually finishing what fdr started that lbj expanded on, and joe biden is attempting to complete. >> hooray! look. you could not get a better endorsement than that in our party. she's talking about people who are beloved. fdr. that's literally who biden wanted to grow up and be and thinks he is becoming.
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it shows how different the world is. the republican party apparently, fdr who saved us in world war ii. who rebuilt the country, got us out of the great depression is some kind of villain. it gives a sense of how far apart the parties are. someone in the party was paying attention. >> she's saying he took her out of context. she posted the full clip of her comments. she's criticize go his spending and programs. >> it is a sign of how polarized we are. the very thing the one side of the political aisle thinks is negative can so easily be viewed as a positive to the other side. the thing that really stuck out to me. when this video dropped. it is very much for those who are online. who know who marjorie taylor greene is, who get why this is funny. is this a.i.? that's why it is funny. >> thank you both. also, we have breaking news tonight. what i mentioned a second ago, the ukrainian port city of
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odessa is being bombarded as ukraine's president is accusing moscow of trying to cripple their ability to export grain. we'll take you live to the ground, next. plus, the u.s. soldier believed to be held in north korea. there is an eyewitness who watched him go across the demilitarized zone. the question is why? ♪ to help you see untapped possibilities and relentlesslyly work with yu to make them real. ♪ - [announcer] tens of thousands of customers wrote about carvana being fast in their five-star reviews, including sheena. - this was our second purcse through carvana. it was super easy and really ft. this time, we traded in a car and couldn't believe how easy it was, and we found the car oufamily really needed and in red. next thing i know, our new car was here and our trade-in was gone. bye! ta-da. (sheena chuckles) i literally tell people all the time how fast and easy carvana is.
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attacks. alex, what are you seeing on the ground as this is the third night in a row this has happened? is there a sense of what kind of weaponry russia is using here? >> reporter: this was a city already on edge after two nights of extraordinarily ferocious attacks by russia. this city wondering whether it would happen for a third night in a row. that answer coming just before 2:00 a.m. with an attack that lasted around 1:45. arguably the most intense with the weaponry we saw on display tonight. it did start the same way the last two nights have, with air raid sirens warning the citizens that an attack was coming. we started to see the red tracer rournlds from the air defenses, firing up into the sky. lighting up the night sky. looking for drones to take down. we saw interceptor rockets
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taking off and presumably, hitting things. because there were huge explosions in the sky that cast this huge glow all across this city all the lights were turned off presumably for security reasons. the reason it appeared more intense was the variety of cruise missiles, at least three different kinds of cruise missiles including the must-feared type which has a warhead of one ton. we know that russia sent up at least eight long-range super sonic strategic bombers to fire these cruise missiles. and then very notably, we know that in all these attacks, drones were used. this was the first time that we heard these drones so close. they sound like huge mosquitos flying very close to the buildings. what the targets were. what the damage was. that we don't know. the sun is just coming up.
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these last three nights have represented the most serious, most intense attacks since the war began last year. >> please stay safe and thank you. also, there is possible proof of life of yevgeny prigozhin. the wagner leader sent a grainy telegram leader that appears to show him alive and well greeting soldiers in belarus. cnn has not independently confirmed this is prigozhin but if so, it would be the first time he's been seen in public since he led the attempted mutiny nearly a month ago. the whole saga has western officials scratching their heads over how it happened and how he's still alive. even britain's spy chief, richard moore, the head of mi 6, i should note, rarely speaks out in public and certainly not as candidly today and said he was stumped. >> prigozhin started off as a traitor at breakfast.
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he was pardoned by supper. a few days later he was invited for tea. so there are some things even the chief of mi 6 finds a little bit difficult to try to interpret in terms who is in and who is out. >> when i heard that comment, it stunned me to hear the head. mi 6 saying they're a little baffled by it and trying to sort out the idea that what happened that day, the fact that he's alive right now. >> of course. that's part of the mystery. normally if you present a challenge to putin or present too much disapproval of the decisions he made, you find yourself in the spectrum of complete obscurity to inevitable. yet he doesn't seem to be on that spectrum. the question is, where exactly is he? he presented the greatest challenge to putin's rule in his entire time in the kremlin.
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and he was essentially moved out. he's no longer in charge of wagner. he's not leading his forces in bakhmut. the relationship is also unclear. and yet, if this video is to be believed, and cnn team have geo located, if this video is to be believed, he clearly has at least some of his forces and safe haven in belarus. it is worth noting that putin had to make this deal with prigozhin to save his own skin and that in and of itself is very telling. >> what do they say in don't drink the tea in russia. thank you. we're also learning new details on the army private travis king who is the u.s. soldier that bolted into north korea on tuesday, catching the world off guard and those who were there. an eyewitness at the
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demilitarized zone watched as he dashed across the line catching the service members there off guard. >> he starts with something really, really stupid. the soldiers were around us. [ inaudible ] they ran up to him. it was so close to the border. >> joining me now, a former north korean analyst for the cia. i may not, this whole saga is fascinating, i think. he had been accused last year. he was held in a south korean jail. he was to be removed, or separated, as they say, from the army. >> it is very bizarre. when you look at the history, you have a lot of north korean deif he canners. you don't have american
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defectors. it is very bizarre. it looks like he got into a lot of trouble in south korea. he cursed out a police officer. he vandalized some cars. he assaulted a south korean citizen. and he was supposed to be sent back. from incheon airport, he didn't get on that flight and made it straight to the dmz. so it is very intentional that he intended to run to north korea. >> what is he facing in north korea? i think some people think it is bizarre that he would prefer to go there than the united states. >> north korea, i'm sure he's regretting it right now. it is very unfortunate, what his future holds. it is not like north koreans are the one detaining an american. the problem is u.s. and north
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korea are at an impasse right now. there is no dialogue. no conversation. since the failure of the hanoi summit, and then covid years, there has been no conversation between americans and the north koreans. >> and i think that might surprise people given how many trump was meeting with kim jong-un and they did have that summit in vietnam. there has been no contact between the biden administration and north korea. they're not responding to the biden administration. so what do they do in this situation? >> i think the north koreans will take their time. since all the diplomacy of 2018, 2019, that diplomacy have completely collapsed. and north koreans have been modernizing and expanding their nuclear missile arsenal. over 30 missile tests this year. there is no talk. north koreans might be like, we aren't interested in conversation. >> could they try to use him as a pawn? >> potentially. but north koreans might say,
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we're not sure that they're not interested in coming back to dialogue and just keep this guy. >> we'll be tracking all of this. of course your expertise on all of this is invaluable. thank you. ahead, two irs whistleblowers have gone forward with their testimony for the first time in a hearing focused on hunter biden. one whose name was revealed. we'll show what you democrats on the committee said. for an erc tax refund. quay you should get a second opinion from innovation refunds at no upfront cost. sometimes you need a second opininion. [coughs] good to go. yeyeah, i think i'll get a second opinion. all these walls gotta go! ah ah ah! i'd love a second opinion. no. i'm going to get a second opinion. with innovation refunds, there's no upfront cost to find out. so why not check like i did for my small business? take the first step to see if your small business qualifies for the erc. like ours is spoiling their dogs. good, real food is simple.
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the first time publicly a second irs whistleblower reveal his identity today in front. house oversight committee. talking about the criminal probe into president biden's son, hunter biden. joseph ziegler has worked for the irs for 13 years as a special agent with the criminal investigation division and he believes the case was ultimately mishandled. he was joined at that hearing by another irs whistleblower that we've heard from. gary shapley. these incredible witnesses say concerns should not be ignored. >> i watched the united states attorney weiss tell a room full of leaders on october 7, 2022, that he was not the deciding person on whether charges were filed. that was my red line. i told already seen a pattern of preferential treatment and obstruction.
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it appeared to me based on what i experienced, the u.s. attorney in delaware was constantly ham strung and marginalized by doj officials as well as other u.s. attorneys. >> i should note the u.s. attorney they are referring to was appointed by the former president donald trump and has defended his decision to let hunter biden plead guilty to tax misdemeanors and a felony gun charge. david weiss has insisted that he had the ultimate authority on what the charge would have looked like for hunter biden. the top called out his republican colleagues. >> one thing you will not hear today is any evidence of wrongdoing by president joe biden or his administration. like every other trial by our colleagues to concoct a scandal about president biden, this one is a complete and total bust. >> here to break down today's hearing, my colleague, john miller. you have a background in law
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enforcement. what congress may jamie raskin was trying to say, this is just tug-of-war between investigators and prosecutors and nothing more than that. what do you think? >> well, the problem here is, that the very reason the justice department appointed david weiss to this job was he was a trump appointed u.s. attorney who they left in place along the idea that whatever decision he came to would not be questioned on political grounds because he's a donald trump appointee who theoretically would have been calling it down the middle. i've worked with the irs criminal division on cases. they are very good, very thorough. these two agents are very credible when they give their testimony and their background of the case they've worked on. the issue is, as you framed it. you put together your best case and then prosecutors say, i have to prove that. i have to go through a messy trial. it will be politically charged. there will be accusations.
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the irs loves to prosecute famous people. we know that from the big name people we've seen. hunter biden would fit into that category. the one who pay up before a trial often get a deal like this. >> what is the difference with hunter biden and what is happening here versus the other big names you've talked about? is there a difference in how much they owed and what they were going after them for? >> so let's baseline those. wesley snipes or nicolas cage or willie nelson. they involved millions and millions of dollars. not just in income. in nic cage's case, i think he was evading tax on $70 million. it is millions in owed taxes. even with the agent's testimony. you were talking about 100,000 hear, $150,000 there. so far below that line. now, martha stewart went to jail for $200,000.
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but it was attached to an insider trading case where she lied to the s.e.c. willie nelson and nic cage made deals to pay. this fits under those as a lesser case with a less famous name. but a politically charged case which is why it is messy. >> and it's not the end of it. thanks for watching that and breaking it down for us. thanks. >> he is one of country music's biggest stars. his new song was topping the charts. jason's music video has been pulled from the country music channel. the controversy explained, ahead. but at the end of the day, you know youou have a team behid you that can help you. not having to worry about the future makes it possisible to make the present as best as it can be for everybody.
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country music star jason aldean is pushing back against critics after his music video for the song "try that in a small town" was pulled off country music television. ♪ around here we take care of our own ♪ ♪ you cross that line ♪ ♪ it won't take long for you to find that ♪ ♪ i recommend you don't ♪ >> that video and its lyrics
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getting back lash. in part because it was, one, filmed at the site of a 1927 lynching in columbia, tennessee. aldean did not address the location in his pushback but he is defending the lyrics that critics say are racist and encourage vigilante behavior. aldean responded, and i'm quoting, there is not a single lyric that references race or points to it. try that in a small town refers to the feeling in a community where i grew up where we took care of our neighbors regardless of background or belief. you last joined me in april when you were famously expelled and then reinstated. six people were killed in a school shooting in nashville. representative, thank you for being here with us tonight. jason aldean, as i noted, is defending this video. i wonder what your reaction was when you heard the song and saw the video.
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yes. thank you. as a tennessee lawmaker, the youngest in our state, i felt like we had a candidate to condemn this heinous racist song. there is no accident that he filmed it on the site where the race riot happened as well as the 1927 lynching of a young man who was 18 years old. henry cho occurred. this song is about normalizing racism, vigilanteism and white nat nationalism. and it is by glorifying a south that we're trying to move forward from in tennessee. >> and aldean, he didn't break the song but clearly sings it. we we looking at the lyrics. one of them is, a cop, stomp, you think you're tough. we'll try that in a small town. are those the lyrics you're referencing? >> to see how far you make it down the road.
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this is a lynching anthem. it is an anthem that reminds me of stories like travon martin, people killed by white vigilantes. this is not about small towns. where was jason aldean when the murray county people were fighting for their clean water? where was he when hospital were closing? where was he when communities were suffering from starvation wages? nowhere to be found. he comes to sing a song that harkens back to the vision, the fear of outsiders that led my grandparents to leave these small towns, fleeing jim crow terrorism. if we normalize this rhetoric, they we normalize the racist actions. we cannot allow this. this song is about this proliferation of gun in our communities, violence, taking things into our own hands when we feel threaten bid people when
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they feel different than us. this is shameful and we must condemn it. >> jason aldean, if you don't remember, was performing at that festival when a gunman opened fire and kill 58 people. the most deadly in history. he said no one wants to see senseless headlines or families ripped apart. do you think that that rings true when you listen to the song? >> when i listen to the song, i hear gun extremism. this year, covenant elementary school. this is not about bringing us together but about lifting up division and fear of neighbor. this is not about caring for each other. it is very shameful that this is what he close to offer in light of what we saw this area. in murray county where he performed the song, last week the kkk left fliers in front of
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black chufs. we must be truthful to condemn this. the proliferation of guns in our community. our vision is a new south where we uplift the beloved community. this is about normalizing violence, particularly white vigilante violence and jason aldean should be ashamed of himself for promoting a song that seeks our darkest history instead of our better angel. >> justin jones, thank you for joining us tonight. we have an update on the alabama senator who is single handedly blocking military promotions. he said he's had several conversations about his concerns. did he let up when the opportunity presented itself? we'll tell you next. people of all abilities.tedr you've made sosomething that people find invaluable.
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tonight senator tommy tuberville once again held up military nominations after a discussion he had yesterday with lloyd austin. it seemed to go well. it was described as cordial. senator tuberville who complained on the show last week about lack of contact from the white house or the pentagon has now spoken with the defense secretary twice. it hasn't changed his mind. >> there was no offer of a compromise. it's their way or the highway. >> senator tuberville has shown no sign as he alludes to there of letting up and affirmed that he plans to, quote, stick with it. thanks for joining us tonight. a lot of news going on tonight. >> i'm surprised the senator isn't really even going to entertain a conversation with someone so high up. it is stunning to me from last week's interview to now that we
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