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tuberville once again held up military nominations even after a conversation that he had yesterday with the defense secretary lloyd austin with did seem to go well. it was described as cordial. senator tuberville who complained of the show about a lack of contact from the white house and the pentagon has now spoken with the defense secretary twice i should know, but it hasn't changed his mind. >> there was no offer of a compromise. it's their way or the highway. >> senator tuberville is showing no sign as eludes to of letting up and says he plans to stick with it quote unquote. thanks for staying at. cnn prime time is laura coates starts right now. laura lot of news going. on i'm surprised the senator isn't even going to entertain a conversation with somebody who is so high up like that. it's just stunning for me from last interview until now kaitlan that we are still here with this senator. isn't that crazy? >> yes, of course and their
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fear is that it's going to go on for months, not maybe even until september, october, when the joint chief is set to retire. >> unbelievable, will be on the case, nice seeing you caitlin. and good evening everyone i am lillico. look the clock is ticking tonight for what could be the third, yes third indictment against donald trump. the former president has until tomorrow, thursday to respond to the special counsel's letter which confirms that he is a target of the january 6th investigation. he is being in a chance to testify before the grand jury which is supposed to be back in court tomorrow. now in a few moments i made a talk with the lead investigator from the january 6th committee who initially recommended charges. also chris wallace will join us tonight, amid political fallout and the impact on the race for the presidency. but first, cnn is learning that trump and his team are scrambling, trying to figure out what evidence jack smith has and maybe which witnesses he has spoken with. does he have the upper hand? what is he really know? and tonight, we are now hearing which potential charges trump is facing. the three statutes that the letter reportedly included include things like conspiracy
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to commit an offense or to defraud the united states, which likely includes the plots to overturn the election. the second one, deprivation of rights or plainly speaking, when someone tries to take away your constitutional or legal rights. and third, tampering with a witness, which by the way that phrase, that title could actually include an effort to influence separate seating, like the certification of the electoral vote of course what you know was interrupted by the insurrection on january 6th. i want to bring in a former federal prosecutor, timothy heaphy who is also the former chief investigative counsel to the january 6th committee. timothy, i'm glad you are here because i want to pick your brain on frankly, you remember when the committee recommended charges after the investigation. now we are hearing from that letter, again the letter is not a close universe of all the things it could be charged, or the will be charged, but i wonder how it lines up with your evidence. are these kinds of categories of charges you would expect to see here? >> yes laura thanks for having me first of all looked a second committee invite the entire criminal code and compare those offenses to the evidence that we had developed, and the lead canada emerged as the most likely charge is conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding. as you said tampering with a
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witness 15 12 covers that. there's ample evidence that the president and a group of others, i think this is likely a conspiracy case, over the course of many weeks before january 6th and on january 6th, tried very hard to prevent the certification of the election. the statute asked whether there is evidence of the weather a person intended specifically to instruct, impede or interfere with any official proceeding, and i think the evidence we developed this pretty clearly yes. now the special counsel might have additional evidence from additional witnesses that we didn't talk to, so i think we are headed towards an indictment middle east that count and likely some others. >> what is interesting that if it does lineup and you were able in opposition to recommend these charges, a lot of time is now transpired since january 6th hearings work before the hearings.
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that investigation, we're talking about months and months and months since even those were recommended, i wonder what you attribute to the span of that thing and also what do you think is missing here? is there anything that stands out to you? particularly you talk about conspiracy, that says others would have to be involved? >> yeah. i think my guess is that the special counsel has gotten some information beyond that what would that was available to the select committee. because they have procedural tools were with a criminal grand jury that were not available to the select committee. if we have a witness come in or not come in and come in and assert privileges that we didn't credit, we had to go to court and file a civil lawsuit or wait for them to file a civil lawsuit, and that took too long. witnesses were able to essentially assert privileges and we knew that we could not really litigate that. special counsel of there's a privilege assertion goes immediately upstairs to the chief judge who supervises the grand jury. that judge makes rulings, goes immediately to the court of appeals, so the special counsel can essentially overcome or rebut those privileges. he also has a hammer of threatening charges, so could be talking to some of these people involved in the
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conspiracy laying out to them, hey you face pop possible culpability view you don't cooperate and tell us the truth. this is lead some of them to tell the truth. we obviously congress does doesn't of the ability to charge anybody so, my guess is that they have taken our foundation of evidence of the select committee and of bildt about it, having an even stronger showing of indictment of criminal conduct. >>an if ur investigation was the floor not to ceiling of the facts, the universe of facts that were there? i'm holding honing in on this conspiracy theory again, because as much as we've heard from donald trump receiving a target letter, there's a whole list of names that we have not heard of received it or may or may not be charged. for example, i'm wondering where is giuliani in this? maybe mark meadows and others. as just to name three john eastman. are you surprised of yet to hear anything have any of them being targets? >> you're putting your finger on the precise names that we identified in the select committee identified as possible coconspirators. the fact that they haven't yet been gotten a target letter been disclosed, doesn't mean that they are not included. i think the special counsel has a hard decision to make and how broadly to charge the conspiracy. there's some people all the way down at a sort of administerial level the did something that facilitated this intentional plot to disrupt the official proceeding. my guess is he focuses on the control group, the people at the very top, the president and other top advisers. those are likely the ones to be charged, but any conspiracy, the contours of it could potentially be very broad, so special counsel has to make is he evaluates who clued another. charges >> discretion is really about choosing your battles because of course the government is expected of its full weight as you articulated, all the benefits that you have with the notion of the united states versus someone's name. but mark meadows, he's been pretty quiet lately, and you called him one of the key witnesses here. to you think that mark meadows has been cooperating with this team? >> no idea. there has been reporting that
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he appeared before the grand jury. i don't know if he appeared and provided wholesome truthful testimony, or if he appeared and asserted his fifth amendment privilege. i just don't know. he refused to come in and be interviewed with the select committee, other gave us some of us most important evidence in terms of the text windows, it gave is a clear window on how he was essential to everything that was went down. all the pressure on the justice department, all the pressure on the vice president, contact with state officials, mark meadows was right there in the room when all that happen. then he's present all day on january 6th when the rioters raging in the president is sitting there watching television and not reacting. he could be a really, really cruel witnesses if he is cooperating with the government. >> real quick, this is not obviously the end of the story,
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because we don't know here whether the target letter will result in an indictment. but if you look ahead, and think about what you know from the evidence gathered in the january six investigation at the congressional level, is this a difficult case to prove against donald trump? >> look, we found that there was ample evidence. as i said the special counsel likely has more. you never know as a prosecutor if a case is or isn't a slam dunker strong. you don't bring it unless you're confident he can prove it. jack smith as a careful lawyer. he's not can issue that indictment alesci's confidence that the evidence will sustain proof beyond a reasonable doubt, and we're in a very carefully scrutinize. case >> off to talk about this again because something tells
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me is not the end of the story timothy heaphy thank you so much for joining us. >> thank you. >> as trump faces a possible third indictment, his 2024 rivals are not exactly pouncing shall we say on his legal problems. to listen to the variety of reactions we hear. >> i want to focus on looking forward, i don't want to look back. i do not want to see him, i hope he doesn't get. jars >> we can't keep dealing with this drama, can't keep dealing with the negativity, we
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can't keep dealing with all this. >> i do not want to see my opponents eliminated because of the actions of a corrupt federal eliminated police state. >> i still believe that the doj is in fact weaponizing the tools of our country against their political opponents. >> joining me now is chris wallace, the host of who's talking to chris wallace. chris good to see you. i'm wondering, what do you think this potential new indictment might mean for the next year given what we are already hearing? it doesn't seem like anybody's pouncing on the opportunity to capitalize on it? >> all, there are a couple of points that i guess that i would make laura. one is when your opponent is digging a hole, don't stop them,
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let him keep digging. obviously, they don't need to pylon trump when he is the subject apparently now of what looks like three indictments and maybe more to come. in addition, i thought it was very interesting, particular the comment from governor nikki haley, ambassador nikki haley. it's hard during a republican primary race to take the side of the justice department, biden justice department and the fbi against donald trump, particularly given the suspicion inside the gop now, formerly the party of law and order about the top law enforcement agencies. i thought her point was less about the merits of the case and more about the politics of it. whether trump is being rightly or wrongly accused, all of this drama increases the chance that he's gonna have too much baggage in 2024 and he's gonna lose to the democrats. so instead of going after the merits of the case they're basically saying, just the politics of the case, we need to win in 2024, and is donald trump or best candidate? >> did speak to the notion of trump fatigue so to speak, it's
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gonna continue, it's gonna be another thing and distraction away from she and other candidates want to be talking about. but as you mention, really interesting aspect is from a real political standpoint because of course, with all the focus on trump's legal issues, guess what we're not hearing about chris? we're not hearing about the specific policy issues. where he stands specifically on issues. we heard a little bit on the unitary executive, but watch this moment and iowa. just an example of what we're not hearing about policy. >> i want to know how you can save our farm line in iowa from the co2 -- ? >> well you know we are working on that, you know we had a plan to totally, it's such a ridiculous situation isn't it? but we had a plan and we would've instituted that plan and it was already, but if we win that will be taken care of. that will be one of the easy things we do. >> i mean, that's not really an answer to the question, but it's reminiscent of 2016 isn't it? >> yes i mean look. first of all, people didn't
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vote for trump because a policy specifics. there were broad themes whether it had to do obviously with the wall, with a government government, training a swamp. now people know donald trump by his record, but what has been pretty extraordinary so far as he has spent so much more time talk about 2020 and has about 2024. interestingly enough last week i interviewed ronna mcdaniel the chair of the republican national party, that was a key point she made, that people don't want to relitigate the past. what they are concerned with is their future and what you are going to do for them. and at least so far we've heard precious little from donald trump about that. what is plans would be for a second term. >> very true. chris standby, we have a lot more to talk about. developing right now, a massive
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scandal at the border. texas officials are pushing back migrants into the river when they try to cross. they're sending booby traps and they're denying them even water to drink. congressman castro joins us live or next, plus this just in. new york city is telling migrants there is no more room. you have 60 days to leave shelters or you will be kicked out in the street. and later we'll talk with a
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have been told to withhold water from migrants. and physically push them back into the -- including children. even at the risk of them drowning. he also alleges that state officials have been setting up razor wire as booby traps to deter people from crossing. in one instance, a four -year-old little girl fainted after being pushed back into the water as she tried to cross a section of some of these types, cnn's shimon 40 passes following the story, shimon, this has caught the attention of the united states justice department. is there an investigation underway about these allegations? >> well, right now, floor, all the different justice is saying is there is sort of an assessment of what is going on, they are monitoring certainly what is going on the department of homeland security which has their water patrol agents there are also monitoring, so everybody is watching but really, laura, what makes this so significant is that this information is coming from a texas state trooper. this is not coming from
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migrants, this is not coming from groups that monitor the situation, this is coming from an individual who was so upset by what he saw, by the way state troopers were retreating these migrants, that he decided to write this memo to his superiors and that is what is so significant about with this. and i am told that he is not the only, one there are several other memos that have been filing with the inspector general for the texas department of public safety, and they have launched an investigation. and really what this is about is the fact that you see this razor wire, this kind of concertina fencing, it is really military grade fencing. and what is happening there, under the governor, governor abbott, it has been placed all along the border, it has been placed in the water, in particular this eagle pass area. kind of close to the shoreline where the water isn't so deep. and as people come in they are
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getting caught on the razor wire. and you can see some of the injuries. some of them are so heroic. there is one individual who where there was a laceration across his stomach, you can just see the number of -- the other thing that is significant here, laura, is that because of where they are placing the wiring, people are going and trying to get to land through the deeper side, and therefore they are drowning. and what this trooper alleges is that they need to light the area, he also says that they need to remove this wire and helped people instead of creating these booby traps where they can't get out. and so that is what is so significant here and certainly it caught the eye of many people in washington d. c. who are saying something needs to change. >> shimon, i mean the fact that this is coming from a trooper, but likely there are others who
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have witnessed this. the investigation obviously hiding right now, shimon, thank you so much for this reporting, because just ahead we are gonna have congressman from texas joaquin castro join us live to respond to what shimon has been talking about. the congressman is actually currently in votes. he will jump out soon and will join us here. he is calling now on president biden and the administration to act based on these allegations and this investigation, but next, i'm gonna speak live with the georgia lawmaker who switched parties from a democrat to now a republican. we are gonna hear why, and also about the death threats that she has now been receiving based on that. plus a country music superstar is being accused of a pro lynching and pro violence song and video. the question we will ask as if the criticism is fair? what is it based on? and let you decide, and we will discuss it next.
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least as a republican, she was once a democrat, and has decided to now leave that party to join the gop instead. georgia's representative michel maynor recently announced her decision to do this, claiming legislative democrats drove her out by, quote, relentlessly trying to sabotage every single thing that she had done, unquote, for her district. the move is now historic, as she is now the first black woman to serve as a republican in the georgia general essentially, from senator maynard joins me now. welcome, i'm glad that you are here, i am looking forward to hearing your insight and your views on this. many people are wondering, why did you leave the democratic party? >> i think you said it spot on, i am just trying to representative strict 56, the people of atlanta, georgia, and fulton county, and as a former democrat, it was quite difficult to get things done if you have groups of people continuously and relentlessly trying to stop every single move that i did for my community, i could give you a
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plethora of examples. but along the way, i got things done anyways, really because of the health of my republican counterparts. and i am appreciative of them, as well as my community. there have been issues in terms of police funding and prosecutorial discretion, issues a school choice, i know that you have been at odds with many democrats in the general assembly. but one of the questions that people have is if you feel as though the democratic party was not supportive of you and your colleagues, your colleagues not supportive of you, why choose to go republican as opposed to say independent? i understand that as recently as last year he said you would never switch parties. what changed to go republican rather than independent? >> so in georgia it is not really easy to be an independent. last year, at the last election, i got about 19 20,000 votes. to be independent, you have to get thousands of signatures for even being able to be on the
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ballot. so it really is impractical to be an independent in georgia. >> well given that, does it sound like, are you truly a republican now? or is it just politically expedient to be that now then, based on that? >> so when i came into office, i came in as a democrat, i have been a democrat lion tire life. that is all i knew. it wasn't until becoming a policy maker and actually looking at the policy and digging in to the finding tails that many people said, okay, you are actually not a democrat, you are a centrist or you are a moderate, as a lay person, i had no idea that that was such a thing, and now i'm still a moderate and steal a centrist, but just on the republican side. >> you are up for reelection i believe in 2024, and i do wonder what your constituents that you are representing must feel about it. i recognize that it is not a monolith, i cannot say what you all the people represent that actually believe particular
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issues. but i am curious as to how you intend to either seek reelection, or what will be your stance, knowing that you have done quite a switch from here democrats or republicans. >> so the beautiful thing about this, laura, is that i campaigned on public safety as a democrat, i campaigned on parent choice, school choice as a democrat. i campaigned on victim rights as a democrat. those are the things that i fought for inside the capital. those are the exact same things that i am unify for on the republican ticket. i do plan on running again. and once the decision was made and it was announced, i immediately got a flood of text messages, saying i am still going to support you, representative maynor. phone calls, emails, i know that you have been saying seeing all of the hate emails, and text messages online. but for every one of those hate emails that i'm receiving, i am receiving hundreds of letters of support. local media, they have been out in the community asking people how do you feel about this. the responses are that i can't
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wait to see what she is gonna do with it. so i plan on winning district 56. i have won it twice with multiple people in my race, without a runoff. they voted for me, i did not vote for the alphabet next minute. >> that is interesting, and i am very saddened to hear as well about the death threats that you have been receiving. and i know that you have been focusing on the positive reactions that you have gotten. something you said strikes me as interesting from the perspective of the electorate. he didn't know there were such thing as a centrist or a moderate. could you not have been that as a democrat, or was it the underlying policies that you no longer agree with and have only learned about while in office? or is it really the bureaucratic process that was surprising? i would not call it a process, first and foremost. [laughter] i will say this, it is not about party, i am not expecting the republican party to be
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perfect. my republican colleagues have said, welcome representative maynor, please know that we are not perfect. it really is a policy issue. so if you are against children being able to have a choice when 97% of the kids don't know how to read, that is a policy issue. if you want to defund the police, that is a policy issue. if you want to put prosecutors or systems of families that are seeking justice, that is a policy issue. so once my colleagues started putting up 1000 dollar checks on social media for anybody to run against me, i did some self reflection. self reflection and said, okay, why is this happening? it is a policy issue, every single policy issue that is important to my community was a policy issue that the republican party was supporting. so it's not party, it is really policy. who is supporting my community? who is trying to uplift my community, i tell people, look around you, the schools are failing, we have high crime,
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there is not a republican in office, so we can't blame republicans. democrats need to blame themselves for the problems in our community, and i'm just trying to make a difference honestly. >> certainly it is your choice and how you want to run, and your constituents choice on who they want to lead, there are of course republican majority already in your assembly. this widens that particular gap. but my final question, now that you are a republican, the head of your party happens to be the former president, donald trump. at least in a de facto sense, do you support his bid for the white house? >> i would say that governor brian kemp is the head of our republican party. i am in georgia and former president donald trump is not in office right now. so i'm gonna have to disagree with you on that there.
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>> will you support him if he becomes the rnc nomination? obviously georgia has been a very important state, brian kemp has been a key part of the importance of that's, and it has been looked at for a number of reasons, including what happens at the federal congressional level. if he is the rnc nominee, will you support him as a republican? >> i would say that there are 12 candidates, i have been in office for two seconds as a republican, i have not looked at any of the candidates extensively, because i was a former democrat. so i was looking at what is president biden doing? so ask me again and invite me back in a few months if you want to ask a particular
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question. >> it will be the same one. thank you for joining, us thank you, representative michel nader, thank you for joining us. >> thank you. >> up next, everyone, country star jason aldean now defending the lyrics of his controversial new single, try that in a small town. is the criticism valid? what is it about? we'll talk about it next. e down ♪ ♪ before you're six feet underground. ♪ ♪ yes, this is how, this is how we work now. ♪ when i first learned about my dupuytren's contracture, my physician referred me
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violence if they remain after dark. i want to tick through a little biofhe specific parts, even hearing about this story, let's go through it for a moment. because listen to what the song says could happen if you, quote, cusseta cobb in a small town. >> cost at a cop, spit in his face, storm on the flag and light it up, yeah, you think you're tough? try that in a small town. see how far you make it there. around here we take care of our own, he crossed that line it won't take long for you to find out, i recommend you don't try that in a small town. >> see, i want to make sure you are hearing the full context of what this is being discussed and understanding what the conversation is about, including this part where critical so take issue with radical they say is reminiscent of that common take it attitude is often espoused by gun enthusiasm, in reaction to the second amendment.
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>> that gun that my grad dad gave, me they say one day they are gonna roundup -- might fly in the city. good luck, try that in a small town. >> but it's also not just what is being said, it is that even the backdrop of the video is stoking some outrage. what you are seeing there is the amari county courthouse in columbia tennessee, behind all the in. and it was actually the site of a 1927 lynching of a young black man. also of a race riot in 1946.
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now the production company who made the video says, look, this is a popular filming site. by the way, all did not choose this location. he is also defending resolved, saying in part, quote, my politicaviews have never been something i have hden from. and i know that a lot of us in this country don't agree on how we can get back to a sense of normalcy where we go at least a day without a headline that keeps us up at night. the desire for it to, that's what this song is about. joining me now to discuss, trae johnson, a writer on race, culture, and politics. i am glad that you are here, you have undoubtedly been hearing about this song all throughout the day. it actually came out back in may. but the video is new, and that is why is getting a lot of attention. i wonder, just seeing that all be laid out, do you think that the criticism is fair? >> absolutely, thanks for having me on, laura, i feel
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like just in general as a writer, anytime you put art in the public space, it is going to invite questions, and i think frankly when you do questionable are it's gonna invite even more questions. and given the context that you laid out already for everybody, it is up for a reason that people want to examine why aldean is choosing this set of messages, this is set of images to put across, like, what is clearly an attack on a stick song. >> you know, playing devils advocate, many people have been smoking about this other side of this, it's reading through if you look at social media, and if you hear other networks talk about this, if you hear those who are true jason aldean fans and beyond, who are well versed in country music, which has its own set of sometimes controversy. is there some reason to believe that he was aware of, say, the actual location? or it's history with lynching? and is this more of a political statement than it is one based on racial vigilantism. >> i don't know if you need to separate those, i think as a political statement it is
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racialized. you know, you look at the context, i am not moved by whether he did or didn't know the context of the setting of the location. he certainly knew the context of what he highlights in terms of the song lyrics. i am curious about the active omission in these lyrics. like he could've chosen to comment on charlottesville, or on several of the mass shootings that have happened inside the country. but instead he does very much all plays out as something but i feel like could be a gangbuster of -- or a song at the rnc. the is playing to a very specific demographic, expecting to a very specific sentiment. and so this idea of disavowal about its intentions feels totally disingenuous to me. >> interestingly, enough country stars show old crow actually called it jason aldean on twitter, saying, and i'll read this for you, even people in small towns are sick of violence. there is nothing small town or american about promoting violence. and she also pointed out that all seen was on stage, as you mentioned, mass shooting from the 2017 mass treating in las vegas.
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it happened that killed 58 and hundreds more injured. you don't necessarily see a contradiction in what he is saying, is that right in terms of the discussion about come and take it? that notion of taking ones guns, complication versus control, and obviously being somebody who was on stage during that horrific tragedy in las vegas? >>, no, i mean, i feel for all the known everyone else who both fell due to this shooting in vegas. but also who have survived it. that is a horrific circumstance, i can't imagine going through it. and at the same time i feel like part of the sentiment that he is speaking to is that in a perfect world setting, we would actually be armed enough to fight back in these situations. this is not about, like, i actually think these are separate things, the mass shooting is an injustice in part because there is an opportunity from his worldview perspective to fight back. and i think that a lot of this is about this kind of simmering,
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boiling over, antagonism about the need to want to fight back about lots of circumstances in the country that feel like they are being robbed and taken away from people. and again, you know, i think the curiosity here is about what sort of situations he is not looking at versus the ones that he is looking at. >> it's fascinating, i tell you, he is number one on my terms i think. i mean, it certainly is in the national zeitgeist. and people are paying attention. and i wonder, you know, whether this will become that rallying cry in other ways. we will have to see going forward. trae johnson, fascinating to talk, to you thank you so much. >> thank you, laura. >> up next, texas congressman castro joins me live on the intensifying scandal at the border. as whistleblower sound the alarm on how migrants are being treated there. plus, a woman is reported missing, she's found, and now cops are suggesting that there are, well, more than a few cracks in her story. and suspicious google searches in her phone. that is all ahead.
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doj is now assessing this story has been really -- pushing people back into the, water from what i want to bring in texas congressman joaquin castro, i'm very glad to see you. congressman, what has been your reaction to these allegations? and what have you personally heard about treatment of migrants at this border? >> well, it is just barbaric.
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what we are seeing, there it shocks the conscience. it started about a month or so ago when governor abbott ordered that razor wire be placed along the banks of the rio grande, and continued with these barrel traps. so taken together, the barrel chaps and razor wire are basically deaf chops or migrants. but an insider dps troopers revealed recently, that not only did they set up those death traps, but troopers were instructed to push people back into the water. there was a case of a four-year-old girl who passed, how it looks like was still pushed back into the water into mexico. another woman who got stuck in the razor wire, had a miscarriage. somebody else broke their leg and was struggling to survive. so this is just, heinous heinous behavior. and governor abbott has encouraged this through his policies. so we are asking that president biden step in, and stop
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governor abbott from what he is doing. >> now i will write, there is a joint statement issued by the governor on this issue, denying that they gave any orders of any kind, instead saying they are prepared to detect and respond to any individuals who may need water or medical attention. i will let the viewers read the remaining part of that. it is legal to seek asylum in this country, the action of providing these, and putting these booby trap to even be generous with the term, do you see this as illegal? and are their actions that will be taken legally against governor abbott? and is president biden prepared to do what you are asking? >> well first, i hope the president will speak up soon and condemn this action. i know the white house press secretary has done, that but the president should speak up and condemn it. also, the department of justice should issue a cease and desist order right away, and do everything they can to stop these inhumane buyback
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practices being carried out by governor abbott, and his administration. and, he did tonight, you are, right but more reporting tonight has confirmed that other troopers and other border patrol agents have essentially said similar things about what is going on at the border. remember, this is a governor along with the director at the department of public safety, who lied to the world about what happened in uvalde, texas. lied for weeks, trying to cover-up, evidence never came clean fully. that is who we are dealing with here. >> the idea of what happened in uvalde is still haunting, and just the thought of a timeline for an investigation, it wasn't long ago we were looking at what happened to haitian migrants at the border and took nine months to have an investigation come out about unprofessionalism, i think it was the term that was used, congressman we'll be watching to see what was done with the president will say, and what the course correction might be. thank you for joining us this evening. >> good to be with you.
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>> next, there are cracks and emerging and a young woman's claim that she was abducted two days. now, she is no longer talking to police. what herself phone records the police are saying are showing, we will tell you next. hi, i'm jill and i've lost 56 pounds on golo. hi, i'm barry and i've lost 42 pounds.
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this story has been really captivating me, police in hoover, alabama, are trying to solve a mystery. was a young woman actually abducted as she claims? or was the entire story a hoax? carly russell called 9-1-1 thursday night, claiming that she spotted a toddler walking alone on the side of interstate. and then she disappeared for 49 hours. police arrive on the highway, and they find her car, they find herself. and they didn't have any sign of russell or any child. now her phone revealed searches about amber alerts and bus tickets to nashville. and info about the movie taken, which of course is about an
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abduction. russell did return home saturday night, and told police that she was kidnapped. but now she is refusing to talk, and well, police are frustrated. when someone says something like this, we put every available resource, everybody comes together from i would like to see state, local, federal. it's just a lot of work. it's a little frustrating to think that all this has been, done and we can't find anything out. >> the community and our nation took interest, what really happened? the chief said only carly russell can tell the truth about what indeed happened to we can't find anything out. >> a community and a nation took interest. what really happened? the chief says only carlee can talk about what happened to her. thank you for joining me for cnn primetime. cnn tonight joins right now. >> great to see you.
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