abduction. russell did return home saturday night, and told police that she was kidnapped. but now she is refusing to talk, and well, police are frustrated. when someone says something like this, we put every available resource, everybody comes together from i would like to see state, local, federal. it's just a lot of work. it's a little frustrating to think that all this has been, done and we can't find anything out. >> the community and our nation took interest, what really happened? the chief said only carly russell can tell the truth about what indeed happened to we can't find anything out. >> a community and a nation took interest. what really happened? the chief says only carlee can talk about what happened to her. thank you for joining me for cnn primetime. cnn tonight joins right now. >> great to see you.

>> nice to see you. good evening, everyone. the special council grand jury is going to continue their work to investigate donald trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election. legal experts are keeping their eyes peeled for a indictment. donald trump's thunderstormer lawy former lawyer and fixer is here. imagine being stuck on the tarmac in las vegas in triple digit heat with an infant. i'll talk to parents who endured that hell. and the pilot that made a run for it into north korea. tonight, i talk to a woman who watched him doing it. >> doing it for a tiktok stunt or something stupid like that.

i heard one of the american soldiers yell get him. he was going so fast, he was gone by then. >> we'll hear from her later. the special counsel grand jury is expected to meet a few hours from now. the president trump being indicted for a third time. we have jennifer rogers, former assistant u.s. attorney. and john miller, our chief law enforcement officer and analyst. how likely is it that former president trump is indicted tomorrow? >> i don't know if he'll be indicted tomorrow. maybe tomorrow. maybe next week. as we were talking about, there's folks coming before the grand jury in the coming weeks. two or three weeks out. >> you happen to know there's people who are going to be going

for the grand jury. >> there are witnesses under subpoena to the grand jury, through mid-august. i doubt we see an indictment tomorrow. the target better, you may know better. but to me, it's unusual to send a target letter and schedule when you want to talk the grand jury. at the same time, and the same piece of paper. >> does that tell you they are not ready to indict? >> we're reading smoke signals here. you're a target, expect to be indicted, is the clue. if you're going to say something in your defense, we're availing you of that opportunity. you have four days to tell us. >> let's talk about the crimes or the possible charges.

you can put them into lehman's . the conspiracy to commit a defense against, or defraud the united states, deprivation of rights and tampering with a witness. tell us about the actual crimes that donald trump might have committed. >> we don't know, of course. but the conspiracy against the united states could be a wide-ranging conspiracy. this is how special counsel mueller charged the russian interference in 2018. this could be conspiracy to overturn the election. and they put in the pieces or the strands of conspiracy. deprivation of rights would be to point to the conspiracy as a whole. the elector scheme. where they were overturning the vote. and the witness tampering is the section they used in a lot of the january 6th cases.

it's interfering with congress. >> here's some of the other trump allies that should b referred for criminal charges to the do some we know. some we know less well. an attorney who was, i think one of the architects of the electors, the fake electors ot. so, do either of you have theories if they will be getting target letters? >> we don't know. so far, they haven't seen them yet. i have a shtheory that the specl counsel wants to move quickly because time is short before the next election. maybe they want to charge him in short address. they play charge other people or wait to do this in another proceeding. >> it's a guideline.

not a law. a 60-day rule. and they're supposed to stay on as far of that on the other side. you're trying to do the job of criminal justice while not affecting politics. this is a case where they are brushed together. you to admire the beauty of this. we're talking about the mueller investigation into interference in the first case. that was run by the i.r.a. internet research. evgeni prigozhin has new problems. but the cost of characters keeps circling around. >> this is a more tangled web than i was referring to. "the new york times" has another charge against donald trump. here'sthey say. nas issued by mr. smith

suggeste has been scrutinizing the political action committee. it rsed $250 million, tell ing the donors it was to fight election fraud. there was no evidence to back up the claims. what crime would that be? >> that would be defrauding the people giving to that fund. >> lying to people is one of the basic things that are charged every day. it's been in play. there's been reporting that people are going to the grand jury to talk about that. that's been on the ray car for a long time. it's a simple charge if they have the evidence. >> sources say trump's attorney is scrambling to figure out what witnesses jack smith has. >> most defendants don't know anything about a case until

after it's charged. the fact they know anything at all, through the witnesses and reporting in the january 6th committee work mean they're ahead of the curve. they get discovery. they will come up with the defenses then. >> they want to know who is in there. yesterday, we talked about who in the inner circle has testified and what did they say? if you're going to be charged with something, take somebody from the list. is there a sealed guilty plea? did somebody plead guilty for return of leniency? this is what the trump inner circle needs to know. >> what did mark meadows do? >> that's intriguing. >> with us tonight is donald

trump's former attorney, michael cohen. he's the author of "revenge: how donald trump used against his critics." great to see you. >> good to see you. >> you heard what the legal experts have been saying this weekend. they believe a third indictment is imminent for donald trump. what is his team doing tonight? how is donald trump preparing for this possible indictment? >> well, he is a little experienced so far. obviously, this isn't his first. nor is his second. it will be his third. he has a little exteerns. i understand that donald is at bedminster.

height now, i think they're telling him that everything is going to be okay. we're going to get this under control, just like we have everything else under control. they are placating him. the problem with that is he is beginning to buy it. once the indictments come through, they will know all of the charges being heavied against him by jack smith. >> are you surprised that other people have not gotten tt letters? >> funny thing is every time something like this comes up, everybody starts to speck mate we put in our two cents. how wouljohn eastman or rudy colludey. we don'tw. we don't know how jack smith's case is being set up. we don't know what's in the car tter.

we certainly don't know what the indictment will look like yet. >> while all of this is happening, you have a case against donald trump and the tramp organization. a jury is being seated this case. and you're trying to get the trump organization to pay your legal fees for four years that add up to $1.3 million. do i have this right? >> yes, the jury has been in town. they have been chosen. this has to do with legal fees that were incurred from 2016 to 2017 and parts of 2018. i was acting at the direction and for the benefit of the trump organization, including donald j. trump. that case is going to trial on

monday. we filed that lawsuit in 2019. that should be an indication to all of the viewers how successful donald has become or astute he's become at delay tactics when it comes to a legal case. i believe that's what the folks with him, steve bannon one of them, they're figuring out, how do we delay this? in f i should win, as john had previously said, he will look to pardon himself. that works in the federal cases but not in the state cases. the alvan bragg new york district attorney case, that will not be pardoned. and the georgia case is a state crime. >> if he's indicted there.

you know what it's like to be one of donald trump's attorneys? how hard is it for him to find good lawyers for all of the various cases? >> it's difficult. that's why he surrounded himself with what we would have referred to as the "d" team. these folks are not -- they're far from the "a" team. he can't get them. he's a difficult client. he doesn't listen to advice. he doesn't want your advice. he wants to tell you how to handle the case, despite the fact he has no legal degree and no legal training, other than being involved in the multitude of legal cases over his five decades of business. that doesn't make for a hlawyer. on top of that, he doesn't pay. that's why i'm taking him after

four years and we're going to be before a jury. this is a serious problem. he wasn't want to listen to ad advice. in all fairness, who needs him? >> you spell it out, michael. how can the lawyers -- he has some quality lawyers. how do they get paid? do they skw him to give them cash up front? obviously, they'll do a lot of work for him. >> if they were smart, they would get the entire fee up front, in advance, with a contingency that if he pulls out or they pull out, as for representation, they get to keep the retaper. otherwise, it will be a nightmare. his m.o. has always been the same. you don't pay your retainer.

you keep the guy really tight. and then, you continue to fall behind on the bills. you pay a little bit and that's the game he's been playing for over five decades. >> thank you for your perspective. interesting to get it. we'll watch what happens with your case. >> tomorrow, there's a hearing in the donald trump versus michael cohen, the $500 million case against me, which is a real issue for him. but we'll talk about that at another time. when we have more time to get into it. it will be interesting. especially after i get his deposition. >> we'll be watching for that, too, michael. there's a lot of stuff swirling. thank you for your time. >> good to see you. up next, the interesting strategy that one republican candidate is using to get donations.

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what will happen tomorrow when the special counsel's grand jury meets? rival chris christie has a prediction about what another indictment will mean for trump. >> if there are additional indictments to come, this is a lot of weight for anybody to be carrying around their neck. as a general election candidate or a primary candidate. i think long-term, these charges are a problem for donald trump. because of the cutting. the conduct is the problem. >> to discuss this and what the rest of the field is doing to get attention, we have former lieutenant governor, jeff duncan. scott jennings and coleman hughes. scott, do you agree, that in the

short term, the indictments have allowed donald trump to fund raise and get a lot o of attention and say he is being purse persecuted. but in the long term, they will hurt him. >> the support they have, has caused a rallying around donald trump. we don't know what the evidence is. there can be some bad stuff that we don't know that can be damaging. half of the republican party wants to do trump again. they say this is validation of the deep state trying to stop me. this is not about you. it's about me. this is reinforcing to the people who love him. on the general question, this is an albatross around his neck. look what happened in the midterm. some had to do with trump hand picking the senate candidates.

>> do you see it differently? the short term game or long term bad? >> this is making the math problem tougher. we can act like the primary is the most important election but it's not. there's not a person in the mid. there's not a person who says, he got indicted. i'm going to vote for donald trump. let's talk about what the rest of the gop field is doing. north dakota governor is doing something interesting. he announced he has met the fund-raising requirement to make the debate stage next month. they have to have a polling benchmark and the fund-raising. he's hit the fund-raising. if you give his campaign $1, he

will give you a $20 gift card. i'm not sure how that math works. isn't that buying support? >> it sounds like $19. you can say it's degrading. the candidates like rfk, bernie sanders, and others that there's a substantial number of voters that are hungry for candidates that can say, i'm not taking money from industry. i'm not bought by big pharma or big oil. candidates are coming up with weird ways to get money. there's voters thinking, given a choice between a candidate that's bought with big pharma and bought with the gift card, i'll take the latter. >> he is buying the voters'

support. why he explains why that approach works. >> you put a great product out there and say the product that we're going to offer it for "x" price. people buy and you get repeat customers. people that donate now may continue to donate because they see and like us. this is a smart strategy. an entrepreneur with a business attitude. >> what do you think? >> he is putting the best possible face on trying to honor the rnc rules. he's a rich guy. he's a multimillionaire. a few hundred thousand dollars. that's probably true. how else could you get the attention you need to break out in the field? i don't love it. i don't love the rules set up around the debates.

the basketball rim is ten feet high. that's how you have to shoot on. >> the more i understand, the more i am impressed. this is creative. if it's within the rules, good for him. it's better than lying to get support like donald trump is doing. >> let's look at polls in new hampshire. this is done by the university of new hampshire. you can e where the field is. donald trump has 37% o republican voters. thatea that 63% are looking around elsewhere. that's a different way to see this. people usually describe him as the faraway front-runner. but in new hampshire, the math is different. >> he's not in a strong bargaining position, even as a year ago.

partly because of the indictments. and how trump-endorsed candidates didn't do so good in the midterms. i think we -- that said, you always have to add the caveat, it's early days. you go back to 2003 or 2007, the front-runner at this time is not who ended up winning. >> you know, it's amazing that 37%. sounds like a low number but enough to win. there's a lot of republicans that don't want to do it. i'm looking at the gulf between two and three. if somebody beats trump, what's the next person down? the quicker this collapses into a two-person race, that's the only scenario that would frighten donald trump's campaign team. if this stays multicandidates

for three or four states, it's protective for him. >> encouraging part is two-thirds in new hampshire want to move forward. they want somebody different than donald trump. i think tim scott shows up in a unique spot. he has a lot going on. he's not angry. he's conservative but not angry. that will play out well for him. he's about to get $30 million in ads. >> not a lot of people know tim scott or heard a little about him. he has the most inspiring story for the field. he's not well defined. i think you see it have a big impact on him. ma mage likely gop voters, he's number one. he has 46%. somehow, they have the message. >> there's a lot of voters who

don't know tim scott. to know tim scott is to love tim scott if you're republican. he will be a great boone. >> look at this, donald trump melts away. tim scott and chris sununu on the ticket. we could run laps around joe biden. >> first debate coming up soon. certain of the candidates are more impressive in a debate format. in terms of people entertaining in debate form. we fight see them having a bump in the numbers. >> thank you for the analysis. an american soldier was on a tour of the dmz in south korea when he sprinted into north

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1,500 record high temperatures have been broken this month. imagine being on the plane, in las vegas, in triple-digit heat with a 1-year-old baby. that happened to my next guests trying to get home from a family reunion on monday. thank you for being here. your ordeal sounds so difficult. you were flying from las vegas to atlanta on monday. your flight was delayed three hours. you were forced to wait on the plane in las vegas. why couldn't they have the air conditioning on? it was like 110 or 111 in las vegas. did they tell you why it wasn't air conditioned? >> it was something on. it was something running. we were at the front of the plane in comfort. the back of the plane was much

hat hotter than the front. some of the passengers, we're like, it's cooler up here. i've been in the back of the plane before. it's hotter in the back of the plane. >> yeah. yeah. for three hours. what was the situation on the plane? what were they telling you? >> ideally, you're supposed to get on the plane, leave the bridge, and within minutes, be in the air. the cabin can't cool as efficient on the ground as it is in the air. something happened that was off from the beginning. they didn't have enough flight attendants. they had to ask for people to come to our flight. that ran well over our departure time.

it ended up being, we lost our place in line, i think, to take off. >> that put us on the tarmac for hours. >> were people sick? what was happening? >> we were at the front of the plane. one of the flight attendants jumped on the phone. she started talking to the pilot. we guess. all of a sudden, she said someone was sick in the back. it was a couple people. they had to bring them off the plane. when they were bringing them to the front, they had to sit them down. they could barely walk. >> we were already hours into waiting to take off.

the captain would say, we're five planes behind before takeoff. by that time, the cabin was warm. i imagine it was hotter in the back. we got word there was a medical emergency. he said we're going to go back to the gate and deplane because that's the procedure. at that point, we just knew we weren't going home anytime soon. when they got to the front of the plane and finally let them off, they said anyone, if you want to get off the plane, you can get off the plane. you will not be able to get back on in the next flight doesn't leave until friday. so, we were look at each other, like we're ready to go home.

we have to wait. and that turned into, okay, we are letting you guys off. >> that's too much of a catch. to say, everybody is sweltering, people are getting sick. but you aren't going to get home unl the end of the week, that's crazy. delta apologized. we apologize for the experience our customers had on flight 555 from las vegas to atlanta, on july 17th. that resulted in a flight cancellation. delta teams are looking at the situation that led to uncomfortable temperatures. we appreciate the efforts of our people and the first responders at harry reid international. how is the baby? and did you get compensation from delta? >> we got 200 miles. >> we got 20,000 miles. >> sky miles. and $60 food vouchers.

>> they will refund us for the flight. they put us up in a hotel. the baby took it like a champ. >> they could have told us that earlier, so we could have enjoyed the hotel longer. the staff on the flight, they did well. they did their job. we don't want to bash them or anything like that. the time frame was too long. >> of course. it's inhumane. thank you for the story. glad the baby is okay. great talking to you. >> thank you. thank you so much. next, the strange tale of the u.s. army private who made a run for it into north korea. i'll talk to a woman who saw it happen.

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the u.s. soldier who ran across the border into north korea. this is 23-year-old travis king. you'll see him. he's in the black t-shirt and cap standing among tourists, shortly before bolting into enemy territory. joining me is a tourist from new zealand on that same tour as travis king. thank you for being here. you did not see anything unusual about his behavior during the tour. what happened when you got to the dmz? >> we had been on an all-day tour that starts outside of the dmz. the dmz goes east to west across the two koreas. we spent the morning looking at the dmz. we had a look at the tunnel the north koreans had dug under the

border. we had been up to a high vantage point and looked down. was the first time you saw anything strange when he started running? >> that's the first time i saw anything strange. i had notice -- i recognized him. i didn't know his name or he was a soldier or anything like that. there were 40 or so people on the tour. you recognize them by sight. he seemed to be alone and wasn't talking to many other people. i didn't think that was really change. you're not watching one person all the time. he bought a souvenir hat at one of the souvenir stores. >> when he bolted from the group and ran across the border, what

happened? how did everyone react? did you see what happened to him on the other side? >> i didn't -- everyone was taking photos and not doing a lot. we were waiting for further instructions from the american soldiers running the tour. i noticed him running really fast into my line of vision towards the north korean side. i thought it was some kind of tiktok stunt. and i thought that was incredibly stupid. after i noticed him, one of the american soldiers welled stopped that guy. by that stage, he was going so fast. he disappeared out of sight. there's three billings that are shared. he ran between two of these. he was over quickly.

i didn't see what happened on the other side. >> i don't know if you read the reports about him. he had faced charges in south korea. he was scheduled to be removed from the military when he landed back in texas. does any of it make more sense to you now that you have heard his ground? >> not really. i was surprised to see he was a soldier. i inferred he was serving korea at the time. i would think he would know more about north korea. and that made it all the more surprising. that he would want to go to a place like that. from his knowledge and everything we were told on the tour. when i was told about the disciplinary action back in the u.s., that didn't really make any -- much more sense to me. i would rather be in an american prison for a long time than in

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book "all the demons are here." >> good to see you. what should we watch for tomorrow? >> i don't think we'll have an appearance by mr. trump. that was in the letter, the target letter he received sunday. giving him to make his case on thursday. the only question is what will come? the last federal grand jury news came on a thursday night at about 7:01 p.m. that was from mr. trump, it was shared. he had been told to show up at a certain place at a certain time for his arraignment and arrest. i think it is quite possible that is what will happen on thursday. i don't know if that will happen. donald trump is the one that usually brings us the news. that's what could happen. >> let's talk about your book

"all the demons" are here. it's set in the 1970s that allows you to explore the colorful era. i imagine it is fertile ground for fiction. how fun was it to research and write this book? >> i was 8 years old in 1977 when this took takes place. i don't remember most of the stuff i was talking about. what a wild time. i remember "star wars" and disco and elvis dying. but the stuff going on just in this one year, from evel knievel literally jumping sharks. this is eight months before fonz did it. to jimmy carter being inaugurated. the nixon frost interviews. son of sam murders and the rise of tabloid journalism. to the death of elvis presley. to cult membership rising.

it was a wild time. they say history doesn't repeat itself. there's a lot of rhyming when it came to the distrust and disillusionment so many americans felt, post-watergate and post-vietnam. and suspicion that the government wasn't telling them everything they needed to know, when a it was this fake cancer cure. that reminded me of the distrust of the cdc during the covid epidemic. it was fun as an era to play with. >> i'm sure people can you, how can you have a commanding career, and be the father of teenagers and crank out best-selling books. >> when i have a writing situation, when i have a writing project, i'm focused. i'm an architect. george r.r. martin says writers aregardeners.

i'm an ak tekt. i do an outline. i break it into chapters. my next chapter has to happen. this has to happen. i allot 15 minutes a day minimum to write. if i have writers block or i'm struggling. 15 minutes a day, if i'm busy. at the end of the week, that's 1:45. when people ask me about being a writer, i said it's this simple. writers write. yu have to sit down and do it. i wanted to be a novelist. i wrote a novel in my 20s. that didn't get published. but i got an agent. and 20 years passed. i did nonfiction in there. i did journalism in there. but 20 years past between one effort of fiction and the next one.

if you don't sit down and write, a generation will pass you. >> that's a good testament to your tenacity. "all the demons are here" a fantastic read. thanks for talking. >> it's always lovely to spend time with you. hopefully next time in person. >> thanks for watching, everybody. our coverage continues now. hi, i'm sharon, and i lost 52 pounds on golo. before golo, i felt sick, i felt sluggish, i was diabetic, and my cholesterol was high. i would always be bloated and my stomach was always upset. now my stomach is flat. i'm happy with how golo has made me look, but what's more important is how i feel. i feel like i can walk the runway. i just--i want to show that at this age i can look and feel this good.

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