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donald trump. they are behind closed doors as we speak, but the big question is, will they vote today? cnn is live at the federal courthouse. and russian onslaught, putin ramping up the cruelty attacking a key port city and grain terminals in ukraine after pulling out of a deal that ensures safe passage of food that feeds millions worldwide. how ukraine is responding now. plus, north korean silence. pyongyang not saying a single word about that u.s. soldier who willingly crossed into the hermit kingdom. plus we have new details about what army private travis king was doing before he ran right into an international incident. we're following these major developing stories and many more, all coming in here to "cnn news central." ♪ right now, the federal grand
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jury that will decide whether to indict former president donald trump over his alleged attempt to overturn the 2020 election is meeting here in washington, d.c., and it could be the grand jury's final meeting before it votes on an indictment. trump's lawyers have said they have until today to respond to the special counsel's target letter, and they say whether trump will come in and testify to the grand jury, that is something that is seen as highly unlikely to happen. as we wait to see when the grand jury's big decision on charges might come down, we're learning that trump is now expanding his legal team, quietly hiring former federal prosecutor turned white-collar lawyer jon lorro. cnn has also learned that this man, trump advisor will russell, will testify before the grand jury for a third time today. senior crime and justice reporter katelyn polantz is outside the courthouse in d.c. for us. tell us what's happening right
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now. >> reporter: well, brianna, there's a lot of people over here working with this grand jury. several prosecutors have already been seen inside the courthouse today. prosecutors from the special counsel's office who we know are working on january 6th and have been working on that case for quite some time. we also have seen the lawyer for will russell inside the courthouse. his name is stanley woodward, but will russell himself has not been seen, and what the grand jury is doing, we know they convened as of 9:00 this morning. they are meeting and they are at work. they apparently would be having will russell testify to them throughout the day or at least in this morning, and we also know that they are going to be hearing from at least one other witness today in this investigation, and so the justice department continues to bring evidence, testimony, witnesses before the grand jury even while donald trump has received that target letter and received that indication from prosecutors that there is a very likely case to be brought against him as the former president, and that case, they
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already appear to know what statutes they want to bring, the charges that they would bring against him related to january 6th. but exactly what emerges from the grand jury in that indictment, the pieces of it, the witnesses that are the most crucial ones to build the case against donald trump, that, we will not know until the grand jury finishes the work and the justice department brings that indictment to them for their approval. again, it all happens in secret until the indictment is returned through the court system and we have it released to us in some way, either from the justice department or from the court. but now, we just need to sit and watch and wait because the grand jury could be done today, but of course, they could always convene again. any time they're together is when they could be asked to look at an indictment. >> all right. we will be waiting and watching. katelyn polantz live in washington, thank you. boris? if you're not an avid
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federal court watcher, this can all be a bit confusing. we want to dig deeper now and sort how all of this works. a grand jury is kind of like a normal trial jury. it's made up of people from the general population called up through jury duty, but unlike a trial jury, the grand jury does not decide on guilt or innocence. their purpose is to look at all the evidence investigators have collected and decide if there's enough there there to bring charges to indict, and that means they have a lower burden of proof. the grand jury also operates in. that's to protect from tampering, and it also protects potential targets like from reputational damage if the grand jury decides not to indict. why do grand jurys exist in the first place? they were created as a check on government power to protect against baseless prosecution and ensure that only cases with ample evidence go to trial,
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which then brings us to today. we know the grand jury is meeting right now at the federal courthouse in d.c. we know a prosecutor on jack smith's team is there. we don't know if they're going to be voting on whether to indict former president trump today though it is entirely possible. and if they do vote to indict, trump's lawyers and others who may be charged will likely be notified by the special counsel's office and then afforded the opportunity to turn themselves in where they would officially be under arrest and arraigned, as trump was a few weeks ago in miami. they would then appear before a federal judge and be presented with the charges before the court and have the opportunity to present a plea. >> the former president is shoring up support on the hill we know he held a call with kevin mccarthy and kevin mccarthy said he backed e
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sponging both impeachments. kri kristen holmes is following this for us. tell us about what it is they discussed because it's not as if mccarthy could exsponge these impeachments. >> let's go back in this time, back in june when the house speaker was trying to placate former president trump, mccarthy came out in an interview and said he didn't know if donald trump was the strongest candidate in 2024. this enraged trump, his advisers and allies and prompted a call from mccarthy to trump. during this time we learned that mccarthy said he personally backed exspunging donald trump's impeachment. not promising to bring it to the floor but would gauge how much interest there was in doing
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this. our sources on the hill are telling our colleagues there's no votes in leadership. this is not something that would happen. so it does sound like this is more of mccarthy placating him here again after this interview. when we talked to -- we get some guidance, it doesn't seem like there's any con conssequence of. this is something his closest allies are pushing for we know that marjorie taylor greene has been pushing on the hill and something that kevin mccarthy said he backs but no real consequences here and seemingly unlikely it's something able to get done. >> quite is show it would be, though. kristen homes live for us from new jersey. thank you. let's expand the
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conversation with former deputy assistant general tom dupree, thank you for being with us this afternoon. we know from our reporting that donald trump's legal team is trying to figure out if jack smith has witnesses or evidence they are not familiar with, they're not aware of. how critical is it to get a head start on this as an indictment can come down at any moment? >> i think it would be helpful preparing your defense to know what cards the special counsel has to play. i think they have a good sense between information leaked in the public domain, i'm sure trump's lawyers have been talking with witnesses because it's acceptable to ask other witnesses who have testified before the grand jury what they spoke about. so i think they have a fairly good sense of the cards the special counsel has to play. that said, i'm confident if and when an indictment drops it will contain new information we have not seen before. call in the mar-a-lago indictment, the special counsel filed a speaking indictment,
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which is rich in detail, a lot of evidence, photographs that told the story. i would expect if and when a january 6th indictment comes, it will look very similar in style and format in the level of detail and evidence the special counsel includes it. >> especially when you consider the reporting we have that he's looking at a very expansive body of evidence spanning different states and all sorts of public officials and people close to the former president. i'm curious about this, late last year, the january 6th committee sent the doj criminal referrals for donald trump, based on their own investigation about what happened after the 2020 election and specifically what happened around the insurrection at the capitol. how do you think those recommendations from lawmakers may have factored into the special counsel and his work? >> my best guess is they probably provided a starting point for the special counsel and his team as they looked at the evidence and tried to think
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about what charges might be warranted based on this evidence. the committee, obviously, spent a lot of time hearing from witnesses, examining documents so they were familiar with the rec record. for that reason i think the special counsel's team thought it, considered it, gave it weight but at the end of the day it's the special counsel's decision what charges the evidence will support. >> i'm curious to get your perspective on the three potential charges outlined, conspiracy to defraud the government, deprivation of civil rights and tampering with a witness. which stands out most to you? >> the one that stands out the potential charge that the president engaged in had a conspiracy to deprive people of their constitutional rights, particularly the right to vote. there was talk that they may consider a charge under the insurrection act. but under the civil rights
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statue, a charge on the books for a long time. arguably he has the evidence to support the charge. that's the one that caught a lot of eyes from from most people. the other charges were the ones that people were discussing and anticipating might be brought. >> tom dupree, thank you for sharing your afternoon with us. >> thank you. president biden is silent on the trump case, he is selling his economic message in pennsylvania, it's his 27th time there since he took office. we're keeping a close ear on those remarks. a third straight night on russian strikes on the city of od odesa, crippling infrastructure as kyiv prepares for another aid package coming from the u.s. and where is u.s. army private travis king. u.s. officials trying to figure out what happened to the soldier who bolted into north korea. new details on what he was doing
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destruction, fire, and despair. have overtaken the ukrainian city of odesa. it is recovering from a third night of pounding russian attacks. this time at least one person was killed. two others killed in drone attacks on the city of mykolaiv. cnn crews in many odesa saw the missile strikes firsthand as they were lighting up the dark night's sky. ukraine's president has accused moscow of trying to take out his ability to export grain to developing nations that rely on for food. >> reporter: odesa has never experienced anything like this since the beginning of the war. last night's attacking alone would have been the worst on the city but it was the third night in a row. a lot of damage done by drones and missiles. you can see this missile has
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completely collapsed. this is an administration near the port that we can't show you for security reasons. you can see a door is still standing, but that's it. this is a pile of smoldering rubble, firefighters have been trying to put out the fires. you can see the smoke rising from them, it's not just this building destroyed we believe by a russian missile but damage all around here, windows blown out, trees knocked over, dust everywhere from the shock wave of the missiles. you could hear the car sirens going off during this attack that lasted around an hour and a half. just before 2:00 a.m., we heard the air-raid sirens, the red tracers flying into the ground to take drown the drones. i want you to listen to a little of what we experienced overnight. at least one person was killed here in odesa. a number of people injured.
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but odesa was not the only city that was hit. the southern port city of mykolaiv was also attacked by russia. there at least 19 people were injured. now ukrainians belief this is directly tied to the grain deal. we know that odesa's port has been a target for the last three nights. some 60,000 tons of grain were destroyed in the second night of these attacks. ukraine says this is in response to russia pulling out of that critical grain deal earlier this week. alex marquardt, cnn, odesa. >> thanks to alex for that report. meantime, in north korea, still no acknowledgement 2from the hermit kingdom that it detained private alex king. he skipped his flight back to the states where he was set to face displaiciplinary charges a
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reportedly laughing, ran over the border. how long until we hear from north korean on his whereabouts? in. >> we don't know, boris. the biden administration has tried reaching out to the north koreans for years, since president biden came into office and the north koreans have responded with radio silence. similarly it's playing out right now where officials across the government are trying to reach out to their north korean counter parts to get a sense if travis king is alive. they don't know his condition or where he's being held. but they have not received any response by the north koreans. but we are getting some more information about how all of this played out.he was set to b from south korea back to the u.s., back to fort bliss, texas earlier this week. where he was set to be removed because of assault charges that he had faced in south korea. but he did not get on that
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plane, he told officials that he actually forgot his passport and he ultimately left at the airport. the next day is when he went on the tour of the dmz and sprinted across the border into north korea. now officials right now are trying to piece together his motivations for this trying to understand why someone would decide willingly to cross over into north korea. we heard from the army secretary earlier today, and she said that he was likely grappling with the possibility that he was going to face further punishment once he returned to the u.s. here's what she said. >> he had assaulted an individual in south korea and had been in custody of the south korean government, and was going to come back to the united states and face the consequences in the army. and i'm sure that he was grappling with that. >> she also said that she is very worried about him that previous instances of u.s. citizens being held in north
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korea have not ended well. most notably the case of otto warmbier in 2017 who eventually died. that's similar to what we heard from lloyd austin who said their priority right now is making sure that travis king comes home alive. >> a baffling decision to run across the border but underscores the difficult relationship the u.s. has with north korea right now. republicans say they're being censored online and today lawmakers are holding a hearing on the hill to amplify those claims. their star witness, a man accused of spreading misinformation and conspiracy theories himself. a rare deadly shooting in new zealand just hours before the women's world cup was set to kick off. what more we're learning about it ahead. you've made something that people find invaluable.
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>> today house republicans holding a hearing on government censorship, called the weaponization of federal government and the star witness was actually democratic presidential candidate robert kennedy jr. >> and yet house democrats tried to stop him from testifying because he has a record of pushing conspiracy theories. they include his latest fire storm in which he repeated the
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baseless claim that covid targeted certain ethnic groups but spared jewish or chinese people. melanie has been following the hearing live from capitol hill. kennedy was called out multiple times over his comments. >> that's right. a lot of fireworks in the hearing and it has centered on the republicans' decision to have a conspiracy theorist testify publically. democrats tried to block the hearing into executive session meaning the hearing would have taken place behind closed doors instead democrats took time to grill kennedy over a number of past statements. one notable exchange, debbie wasserman schultz pressed him on him saying that ann frank had
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more freedom in nazi germany than the american people did during the pandemic. >> i would like 10 seconds back. >> you are slandering me. >> i'd like 15 seconds back. >> we'll be happy to give you that. >> thank you. >> were the measures taken to contain the spread of covid, comparable to the murder of 6 million jews? yes or no? >> absolutely not. >> tense there as you can see. republicans have continued to defend their decision to have kennedy come testify. they've said that democrats are now trying to sensor kennedy, which is proving the point of their hearing, focused on censorship. but democrats say they're just trying to prevent him from having a platform or megaphone to amplify his anti-semitic dangerous views. >> thank you for that.
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joining us we have cnn's master fact checker daniel dale. before that exchange, jfk jr. said he never uttered a phrase that was racist or anti-semitic what have you found? >> i'm not the boss of deciding what is racist or anti-semitic. i say that he has made comments that jewish and asian groups described as such. saying covid-19 is targeting caucasians and black people and not jewish and chinese.it was s covid was made to save jewish and chinese is bringing a rise to fighting antisemitism.
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he was previously denounced by jewish groups for the comment about ann frank. a comparison, that was last year, he was attacking vaccine mandates he said even in hitler's germany you could cross the alps into switzerland, hide in an attic like ann frank did, who was killed by the nazi. he eventually apologized. so i'm not sure what he's denying now. >> there's another moment in his testimony that he's now seeming to change previous statements over, and that is his view of vaccines, do you deny you ever spoke out against vaccines. let's listen to that moment. >> i've never been an anti-vaxx i never told the public to avoid vacci vaccination. that's not true. >> it's not true at all.
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two part statement. this is one of america's most prominent anti-vaxxer. he's on record saying to avoid vaccinations. an nbc news reporter found a comment and tweeted about it today where kennedy, in 2021, said he even encounters strangers on hiking trails and tells them not to vaccinate their babies. listen to that clip. >> our job is to resist and talk about it with everybody. you're walking down the street and i do this now myself, which is i see somebody on a hiking trail carrying a baby and i say to them, don't get them vaccinated. he heard that from me. if he hears it from ten other people, maybe he won't do it. maybe he will save that child. >> clearly anti-vaxx.
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he has promoted the notion of a link between autism and vaccinations. he's even asserted in recent comments that the spanish flu pandemic wasn't a flew at all but was caused by vaccine research. it was not. he asserted there's evidence that hiv was caused by vaccine research. it wasn't. this is an anti-vaxxer today presenting he's not anti-vax. >> unbelievable. >> thank you for putting that together for us. appreciate it. yesterday two irs whistle-blowers went before the house oversight committee and alleged that hunter biden got special treatment from the justice department as it investigating the president's son. we had pete sessions on the program and he made a false statement in a question that i asked him about david weiss,
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appointed by president trump and kept on by joe biden and has now brought charges against hunter biden. >> he said that merrick garland granted him, quote, ultimate authority over this matter, including responsibility for deciding where, when and whether to file charges. he wrote in a letter to congress that he discussed becoming a special attorney under a different statute. that is obviously contradictory to what we're hearing from the whistle-blowers. do you think david weiss is lying? >> then you need to have whoever helped you for this presentation today and then there was a follow-up letter where he corrected himself and a third letter that corrected himself that said he did not then have
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that ability. that he was provided specific content that that would not be happening. so he got back, honestly, with senators, they were involved, and the house committee on ways and means. and james comer government reform and oversight and sent three letters in many total that corrected himself each and every time. >> no he didn't. no, david weiss did not correct himself each and every time in the three letters he sent. there was no follow-up letter where weiss corrected himself and said he did not have that ability as sessions said. in fact, weiss reaffirmed his authority in his letters to republican members of congress who were seeking information about the hunter biden probe. which was then and is still, an ongoing crimal investigation. june 7th in response to a letter that republican congressmajim
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jordan wrote, wiseeiss said i h been granted ultimate authority over this matter including responsible for deciding where, when and whether to file charges. jim jordan said the response was insuffie. and june 30th weiss responded with more detail saying he was assured he would be granted the necessary authority in the district district of clum columbia, or any other district that charges could be brought in this matter, on july 10th, he disputed whistle-blower claims that he requested special counsel status? quote i have not requested special counsel designation. he asserted his authority and said that he had, quote, never been denied the authority bring charges in any jurisdiction. after the show i followed up
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with sessions' office and waiting for a comment on why he misrepresented the communications with congress. there are legitimate questions about how foreign entities or outside groups use money to try to influence those close to politicians. that's why officials raised concerns about hunter biden during the the end of the obama administration. and republicans are turning a blind eye to trump family members and the former president himself as they benefitted from the presidency. because if this is really about getting to the falktcts about t, you don't lie about them. >> still to come, a tornado
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ripping through north carolina. now we're learning damage to the pfizer plant there could make the level of drug shortages even worse. is ups on the verge of a strike, new details on negotiations and what it could mean for your packages if there is a work stoppage. stay with cnn "news central." we're back in moments.
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a rare deadly shooting overnight in new zealand just hours before the opening match of the women's world cup. authorities say a gunman killed two people at a construction site where he worked. the suspect later found dead after a police shootout. officials say there's no know connection to the tournament which began as scheduled this morning. also contract negotiations are set to resume next week as more than 300,000 ups workers prepare for a strike. experts say a walk out of that strike could cause supply chain issues and cost the economy billions. both sides say a deal has been reached but there are key disagreements around worker pay. officials in pennsylvania say they will try to resume their search for two missing siblings who were swept away in a floash flood, 2-year-old madde and 9 month old conrad went
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missing in the flooding an hour north of philadelphia. just a short time ago, police did announce that the search is back on. we're tracking more severe weather across the country, including devastation from a massive ef-3 tornado that touched down in north carolina. the storm reaching wind speeds of 150 miles an hour. here's a look at some of the damage right outside of raleigh. diane gallagher is on the grond for us, what are you seeing where you are today? >> reporter: boris, this is what an ef-3 tornado can do. we are in north carolina, just behind me, this is the town hall here if you can see much of it through the snapped trees. this is where the national service says the tornado came here in gnash county. if you ban over through the
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snapped trees in this area, it left this in its wake. you see houses like this one back here, there were people inside that the time that the tornado came here, just about 24 hours ago, around lunchtime yesterday. this is what you got everywhere. it's siding, it's insulation, it's trees, i want to give you a better idea. if you look over here, you can see, completely removing homes from their foundations. this is someone's life scattered out along their front line. i spoke to the woman who lives there, she was inside that house with her daughter and her grandchildren. she said it got dark, she saw trees that started flying out the window, and she rushed to get them to a safe place. she said the trauma they're experiencing from what they survived is very serious at this point. there's another concern here in gnash county.
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i want you to look at this footage we have of the pfizer plant in rocky mount. it took a serious hit from this tornado yesterday. it's one of the largest employers here in nash county. it is closed until further notice we are told. it has supply chain experts concerned. this facility is one of the largest sterile injectable manufacturers in the entire world. it manufactures more than 25% of all sterile injectables used in hospitals in this country. pfizer said it is still assessing the damage, boris. they're not ready to tell us exactly what was damaged and what extent and how long they're going to have to be closed. a lot of questions about what the impact may be, the ripple effect across the country. as supply chain experts explain we are experiencing a drug
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shortage in the country. the fear is we may exacerbate it here in nash county. there are people who right now picking up pieces of their homes, trying to pick up their lives and put them back together but there are thousands here who aren't sure when they bell a i believe to go back to work. that's a fear we spoke to a lot of people about here. we saw people dropping off water and supplies at the red oak baptist church here. it is hot and they're out working trying to salvage what they can at the moment. >> diane gallagher, thank you. a strange twist in what is already a strange mystery surrounding an alabama woman who disappeared and turned up days later saying she had been abducted. police are talking about what carlee russell was searching for online before she vanished. we'll have those detetails next.
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police in alabama are expressing their doubts will carlee russell, she's the person who called 911 saying that she saw a toddler walking object the highway or near the highway and that she was going to stop and check on them. then, she went missing. and then she turned up two days later saying that she had been kid napped according to family members. now, police say
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they just cannot verify most of other initial statements and they're revealing details about online searches that the 25-year-old made before all this happened. cnn's ryan young is following what has become quite a if you twists and turns. ryan, tell us what you're learning. >> a lot of twists and turns, 49 hours unaccounted for. where was the woman for that period of time. we talked about the 911 call as she was driving down 45. she said she saw a toddler, we know that gps figured out that she traveled 600 yards, six football fields before coming to a stop. so, they made the point of saying, if she was looking for a skilled, how did that happen. then they went to what she was searching for on the online, like, "taken". and look at the details she told the detectives. >> she said the male had orange hair with a big bald spot
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on the back. she said she was able to escape the 18-wheeler and fled on foot only to be captured again and put in a car. she claims she was blind folded but not tied up, barkecause the did not want to leave bruises on her wrists. she was able to make it home, but, police say she stopped at target to buy snacks and took a robe from work and none of that was found inside the car where they found her wig, her apple watch and her phone. so, there are questions after all the man hours spent looking for this young lady, you got to think, more than 50 officers, you had community members, you had a drone in the air and a canine unit from a neighboring police township trying to find her, and all the internet and money put forth for someone to find this young lady, and all of this, the story did not add up. the parents were on television begging for her return. and now we have all the questions and the fact that she's not talked to police after
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