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a federal grand jury meeting behind closed doors right now as they investigate former president donald trump's role in evidents to overturn the 2020 election. they could vote as soon as today on criminal charges and a possible third indictment for the former president. we're live outside the court house with the latest. a battle underway on capital hill over new ethics requirements for the supreme court. after a seareries offeths controversies involving justices. we're speaking to a member of the committee about what comes next. we're following these developing stories and many more all coming in right here to cnn news
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central. the question everyone is wondering, will former president donald trump be criminally indicted for a third time? we may soon get an answer to that. a federal grand jury hearing eft in the special counsel's 2020 election interference probe is meeting right now, not far from our studios in the nation's capital. it may be the final meeting before the grand jury votes on an indictment. trump's lawyers said they have until today to respond to the special counsel's target letter and say whether trump will come in and testify to the grand jury. that is seen as very unlikely to happen. let's take you now, live outside the court house with cnn's kaitlan, today there's been a flurry of activity were your, tell us about what you're seeing. >> indeed, boris, there are a lot of different witnesses that have come through this grand
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jury previously to build the case that the justice department has been looking att donald trump, a potentially others and today, there were additional witnesses. one man, will russell, an aide to donald trump who had testified twice before, coming back to the grand jury testifying this morning, we believe there was an additional witness as well. at least one additional witness testifying today too. so, the grand jury they remain at work. but, everyone is really on guard at this moment for some sort it have major development out of this grand jury because that target letter that donald trump received on tuesday essentially said he had the opportunity to come in or to respond by thursday, today, to testify, if he wanted to in his own defense, to present his side of the story that's something that target's an investigation are sometimes able to do when the justice department gives them that courtesy. trump is unlikely to take that opportunity. but, that target letter itself puts
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the justice department in a position where they're acknowledging to trump he's very likely to be indicted and this is very near the end of the road of the grand jury's work at least on an initial case here, or a case against trump himself. so, we're waiting to see what emerges from this grand jury, boris, everything they're doing is confidential. and now and today and in the future as well. so, exactly how the next couple of days, play out or even weeks play out with the grand jury's work, we won't know until they approve the indictment that the justice department presents to them and then have it go into the court system. but, a lot of people watching, waiting, trump himself expecting that indictment. and there are many prosecutors from the special counsel's office here at the court at work with the grand jury as well. >> watching and waiting. it sounds like there's an ice cream truck nearby, i hope you get to tack advantage of that as we await the results from the grand
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jury. kaitlan, thank you so much. let's go to new jersey, the president's summer residence, we have kristen homes there, kristen, as donald trump and his attorneys wait for a charge he decision from the grand jury, they're focused on a promise from house speaker kevin mccarthy about potentially expunging trump's impeachments, tell us about that. >> we want to be clear, boris, because, we were told there was no promise made. this was actually mccarthy say that he would back the idea of expunging the impeachment. that's is the that would quote unquote, expunge the impeachment. according not par lament tarian's officious it's really unclear. the record of those votes both in '19 and 2020, will
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stand. i do want to note the broader context between kevin mccarthy, the house speaker and donald trump when that's remarks were being made. they came in a sven call after mccarthy had enraged trump, his advisors and allies by saying in an interview on cnbc that he just wasn't sure that trump was the strongest candidate in 2024. and he called him to apologize for that and that is when this came up. but, again, not making any promises, and clearly part of a larger narrative of mccarthy trying to win back favor with the former president as his aids and alleys continue to raise questions as to why speaker mccarthy has not endorsed trump in 2024. something that we're clearly keeping an eye on. but, it doesn't sound like even if he was to bring the resolution, they would have the votes or any proc procedural consequence. >> let's discuss all of this
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now with cnn legal analyst and white house correspondent for pbs news hour, laura lopez. what does this mean for a possible indictment. do they hear evidence and witnesses up until the last moment, what can you tell us? >> sometimes they hear evidence and witnesses beyond the last moment, as in the mar-a-lago documents grand jury that has continued to unfold. but, briana, donald trump is going to be indicted for third time. it's going to be soon, indictments typicallllow quickly upon a target letter. they may be discussing it today. and we know the three court charge that is donald trump will likely face. so, fasten our seat belts, a third indictment is near. >> and if you're looking at a
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third indictment here, the potential for that, which is so real, and then a possible fourth on the horizon, laura, in georgia, how does trump juggle all of this in the middle of a campaign? >> well, we're seeing that all of them are starting to collide right now, particularly wether or not or when these trials will be set. and right now, we see that the tactic is delay, the trump's team is try to go delay a trial in the case of the classified documents into mar-a-lago that he's been charged with, his handling of that. and he will very well pr this front as well as the potential fulton county, georgia charges that may come. as we've seen time and time again, the republican base sticks with him. even when indictments are handed down and even when we see the potential litany of charges, they rally around him and none of the candidates, his challengers are chipping away at that at all.
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>> that's my question, because, so often you have a candidate that needs to sell that they're fighting for their supporters. trump is talking a lot about how he's fighting for himself, not as much, just about fighting for his supporters, but, i wonder if his supporters sort of feel like that's one in the same. >> i think that they do. when you go to the trump campaign website, so much of the language is that these, um, charges against me are charges against you. and he's trying to tell his base that it's not just him that's under attack, it's them that are under attack. and when you talk with historians, they're saying that's very historic language, it's telling the supporters it's their entire way of life and really sew massive distrust in the u.s. justice system. >> norm, you say, and there's three statutes in this letter, you say the deprivation of
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rights, that statute, it makes it clear that they're looking for a less risky alternative to bring in charges under the insurrection act. can you explain that? >> um, yes, the as we wrote in our model prosecution memo that i released with bipartisan experts last week, predicting the target letter and the charges, there's threele acts here, briana, there's trump's wild schemes, act one, culminating not counterfeit electoral certificates, allegedly. and act to, using those certificate toss pressure mike pence to throw congress off on january 6th. and when that failed, act three, and this is where the surprise charges comes in, act three, the violence of january 6th. one way to address that violence as to trump is to say insurrection act. he had an insurrection. but, another way of saying the violence and
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disrupting the meeting of congress on january 6th, was an assault on the civil rights, the right of every american who voted by joe biden to have that vote counted by congress and recognized on january 6th. so, it's an expected move by the prosecutor, but, with ago slightly different and i think, smarter legal twist. and i have a long essay that just went up at the just security website breaking it all down. i think it's going to work. >> all right, i will check out your longest say, norm. i promise. i will check it out. laura, we have new reporting that in a call with trump, house speaker kevin mccarthy would personally back the idea of expunging trump's two impeachments, but, can he really do that? it seems like it might be an empty promise. >> well, there appears to be divisions within that house republican conference about wether or not that should be
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something brought to the floor. and there are a number of republicans in these biden-won district that is have made that majority for the house conference that don't necessarily want to take a vote like that, because, they know it's going to be hard for them to win reelection. um, no, there are major questions about wether or not this vote can even happen, if you can expunge trump's impeachment. and i know that the speaker of the house said he didn't really make that promise. so, now, you're starting to see what i think could be a pretty big feud between the former president and the speaker now. >> we'll look for that, they do have them from time to time. laura, thank you, and norm, thank you to you aris well. boris. new ethics requirements for the supreme court, and this is butting major weight on capital hill. and texas abortion restrictions are the strictest
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today a major step toward change for the supreme court. on a party line vote, the senate judiciary committee just advanced legislation that would force the high court to create a new code of ethics and this is why: a string of reports raising serious questions about conflicts of interest including justice clarence thomas' luxury vacations and the real estate deal from a top republican donor. justice aledo failing to
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report a flight funded by a billionaire hedge fund manager and a fishing trip. justice gorsuch not discussing who bought a million dollar property. and justice sonnia soc. it has no future. listen to this: >> this thing is dead as fried chicken on the senate floor and it's dead as fried chicken in the house. that's what this bill's all about. and i get it. you disagree with opinions of the united states supreme court. democratic senator macy's is on the committee that supports the bill. she joins us live, we will get your response to your colleague in a moment, but, first, what specifically is in this bill that would reform the
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ethics guidelines of the supreme court? >> first of all, let's understand that the united states supreme court does not have the kind of code of ethics that apply to all other federal judges. so, the highest court in the land should set the highest standard, they do not. so, this is a bill that would do that. and what will it do? it will establish a procedure for investigating ethical violations, it will make much clearer, recusal requirements and the third is to give the court time to adopt a code of ethics and if they do not, then, one will be provided to them. >> how, exactly -- >> senator, how exactly do you plan to then, enforce those guidelines? >> some of the guidelines will be done through the commission that is established by the judicial conference, so, there are judicial conference procedures for the investigating these kinds of things. and
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then, i don't think that we're putting it together anything particularly new. the main thing to focus on is that the supreme court does not have a code of ethics, and so, you the circumstances of billionaires wining and dining our justices and there's no disclosure as to any of this. >> and senator, you will need at least nine republicans for this bill to pass. some of them are arguing as senator kennedy did that democrats are only pursuing this because it's a conservative court and they're making decision that is you don't like. i'm wondering what you say in response and if you think this bill will ultimately pass? >> the provisions of a code of ethics will apply to all justices, regardless of who nominated them. and know that they do bring up sonia s sotomayor. this has nothing to do with the fact that we have
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disagreements on what the supreme court is doing. would i call it an extremist supreme court, but, setting that aside, i think that the american people can understand that the supreme court should have a code of ethics, they should not be taking trips on airplanes and being wined and dined to the tune of hundreds of thousands of dollars and there's absolutely no disclosure, and not to mention, that shouldn't a justice recuse himself when his wife is involved in a case that comes before the supreme court? >> and, senator, there are questions about whether this kind of law would be constitutional, the supreme court is a separate branch of government and if this passes, ultimately, there might be a challenge, so, wouldn't the justices wind up then, deciding on the merits of a potential bill that might change their conduct? >> we have already had a hearing with experts on
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determining wether or not congress has the power to get this bill through the finish line and we can. because, the congress establishes a number of other aspects of how the court operates. and this would not be anything different from what congress can already do. so, i would say that the legality of this approach is settled, as i'm concerned. but, the thing is that republicans say there's nothing to see here, nothing to do, so, when we were dealing with this bill, they filed over 60 amendments, most of them had nothing to do with wether or not the court should have a code of ethics. and all of these amendments were distractions, including, i know one that there was an amendment that would preclude a gay shows in the smithsonian, or something like that, and so, there were a number of those kinds of amendments to distract us from the fact that the supreme court does not have a code of ethics. >> senator, as we're
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discussing ethics, i'm wondering if you think members of congress should be allowed to trade stocks. often you're privy to information that the general public is not. so, so members of congress be held to a different standard? >> no, they should not. in fact, there are bills that relate to trading and information, that's already illegal, but, to make it even clearer to prevent trading in a certain kind of stock, so, i've signed onto some of those kinds of measures. but, the main thing is, we already have those kinds of provisions. in fact, i held up the senate ethics provisions, it is a book this thick. whereas what does the supreme court have? i think the chief justice sent us a four-page memo that says, you know, we don't do this. i happen to disagree. because, as i said, everyone should abide by a code of ethics, and did you
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know that there are private companies that rtheir employees like walmart that require a conflict and code of ethics of their employees? >> well, it is significant. notably, that letter sent to your committee, all the other supreme court justices signed on in agreement and he turned down an invitation to testify. what's your message to him and those supreme court justices that seem to agree with him? >> he could, with the agreement of the other justices, but, i am disappointed that they all are, really, in my view, closing ranks, the fact of the matter is that the supreme court is not held in very high regard by the american public. i think there is a sense that this is not a supreme court that deals on a fair and objective way on the cases that come before them
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and therefore, there should be disclosure of them being wined and dined, and i don't think it's asking too much that the supreme court have a code of ethics applied to them. not what they, the chief justices said, oh, this is adequate for us. it is not. >> senator masey, we have to leave the conversation there, we appreciate you sharing your time and perspective with us. >> stay tuned. >> we will. briana? new preliminary data shows more infant are dying in texas two years after the abortion ban took affect. and we're going to speak to a doctor that says her fears are coming true. and later, artificial intelligence a threat toto w wr, acactors ahead, how the technoly is growiwing. ing on countless invisible networorks, making it a prime target for cyberattacks. but the same ai-powered security that protects all of google
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a second day of testimony under way in austin, texas in a lawsuit challenging the state's abortion ban. it centers on the issue of forcing women to carry out terminal and often high-risk pregnancies. the 13 women and two obgyns who are the plaintiffs say the law is too la vague. one of the witnesses threw up while on the stand talking about her baby's fatal birth defect. she resumed testimony after a court recess. i want you to listen to when shh he described the moment when she learned her pregnancy was not viable. >> we could see the pain in her eyes. she told me that my
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daughter's been diagnosed with that means her brain was not fully developed and that she was sorry, i didn't have any options. and then called in a case worker. and a case worker came in and they handed me a paper that said funeral homes on top of it. she told me that i didn't have options because there was a law that the texas abortion law prohibited and i was unable to get one. so, i, i felt like i was abandoned. >> she says her baby, who, she and her husband named halo lived four hours, quote, gasping for hair. and that she watched halo, go from being pink to red to purple from being warm to
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cold. data obtained from the texas department of state health services show that in 2022, infant deaths caused by severe genetic and birth defects rose 20%. that's a spike that reversed a nearly decade-long decline. joining me now is dr. erica warner, she's chair of obstetrics and gynecology at the medical center. really tough testimony, dr. warner to listen to, when we look at what is an 11.5% increase in infants dying in texas. can you tell us, is that just due to this increase in infant deaths that is cause the by severe genetic and birth defects? >> you know, i think we need better access to the data to be sure. but, from what i have seen, it does seem that the spike is because of an increased rate of neo-natal deaths.
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>> let's talk about when a woman can know that she's carrying a child who has, say, some sort of disorder like the case of the woman that we heard testifying on the stand. because, the ban is at six weeks. at what point in the pregnancy would you know, in most cases, if the pregnancy is not viable? >> yeah, i wish we knew by six weeks, but, we never know by six weeks. best case, the major brain anomaly, we may know at the end of the first trimester, but, often we don't know about major genetic problems until well into the second trimester. most viewers have they are details scan at 18 to 20 weeks and that's in the second trimester, which is part of the problem with all of the restrictions is that they take
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away the choice for patients and force them to carry patregnanci that won't lead to a live infant for months. >> what is this generally do to the mental health of a woman who is forced to carry when she would otherwise choose not to carry a pregnancy that is not a baby that is going to die, shortly after birth? >> so, you know, every patient is different, some people really do want to carry, and i want them to have that choice as well. but, for women not being able to choose, women, you know, like this individual who lost all atonmy of their body, the emotional strain, it's already the worst day of anymore's life to hear that you are not going to be able to take your baby home with you from the hospital. but, then to add on top of that,
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you're going to have to carry that pregnancy, you're going to have to put your body and your ability to take care of our other children at risk for months, because, there are many complications that can compromise your health. the anxiety and the stress that it puts on individuals is unimaginable. >> do you think an amendment or a change to this ban would look like if this case is successful, to stop cases like this one we saw in court? >> yeah, i mean, the real problem is that no two case are exactly the same. so, it's why the decision really needs to be left between a patient and their provider. it really, you know, we need to have the ability to use medical decision-making. not politics to make medical decisions. and so, i would like to see patients and physicians be able to make decisions together that are in the best
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interest of family health. >> doctor warner, we thank you so much for being with us, obviously, this is very difficult for a number of families in texas. thank you. >> thank you for having me, i appreciate the time. >> boris? a strike averted on broadway, the back stage workers and owners just reached a deal. we have details on that. meantime, the password crack down seems to working for net flicks, they added millions of subscribers, details on the numbers when we return. i'm currently out of the office [typing] focusing on a little blue-sky thinking. i'll be taking meetings with family and friends. and chking voicemail as my activities permit. i'll connect with you afr reconnecting with me. ♪
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lawsuit brought by hundreds of demonstrators from the 2020 george floyd protest. the marchers clashed with police and the nypd came under heavy criticism for their tactics. the city agreed to pay to settle the suit. each plaintiff will get nearly $10,000. also, it appears that netflix's crack down on sharing password is working, it has added 6 million paid subscribers and sign ups are exceeding ons. netflix said it has now launched paid sharing in more than 1 money countries. and the show will go on nor new york's broadway. a strike between stage hands and back stage workers has just been averted. negotiators made the agreement just as thousands of union members were voting to
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authorize a strike that could have shut down broadway tomorrow. boris. so, it's more than movie scripts, ai technology is used to alter what we see on screen, allowing hollywood to deage actors like harrison ford in the indiana jones movie. and even to change their words right before our eyes. as cnn's donni. >> this is special effects on steroids, it's hard not to be blown away when you see the power of this technology. as we're learning, a lot of people in hollywood, writers, actors, see this technology and for them it's a dissunaster. this is wh it starts, it's a solution for
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cosmetic work. >> for some technology wizardry, harrison forward looks like a younger. >> in the latest movie, harrison ford is deaged in a flashback where he fights the nazis. hollywood studios are moving beyond technology and embracing artificial intelligence. turning to companies like mars. >> what is mars stand for? >> monsters, aliens, robots and zombies. >> the latest spiderman movie released features villains like the green goblin and dr. otto. >> they wanted to bring these characters back in that moment than when they originally performed that character. so, without naming names, we helped marvel do that. >> mars says it's deaging
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technology knocks thousands of hours off the process but say they aren't killing jobs. >> there are a finite number of artists in the world that are able to execute on that demand. >> mars has built an ai. dubbing tool able to make awkward, out of sync voiceovers like these, a thing of the past. mars uses technology to reconstruct the actor's lips to match the dubbed audio. they try out on me. first i sent them a short clip shot in the cnn studio. >> i struggled with english sometimes. >> with that, they were able to do this. >> [speaking in foreign language]. >> that is very impressive. >> my lips look french. >> i don't know who you are.
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>> this technology can even put other people's words in your mouth. >> but, what i do have are a very particular set of skills. if you let my daughter go now, that will be the end of it. >> i will not pursue you. >> my fellow i rishman as well. >> it was built for the purpose of allowing studios to take content in their native tongue and put that content across the globe in a way where it looks native to the viewer. >> for it's part, mars says it is not in the business of replacing actors. it's technology is meant to enhance perfo performances create them. >> i don't think it's a question of the technology, it's how you use it. >> look, you know, i could be hit by a bus tomorrow, and that's it, but, my performances can go on and on and and and and and outside of the understanding that's been down with a.i. or deep fake, there's nothing to tell you that it's not me and me alone. >> fears that a.i. will be
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used partyize after the actors went on strike. the movie studios are pushing back on that claim. technology cannot replace an actor full-on. so, you can not go head to toe and redo the entire face and expect that to be photo real. the technology just isn't there right now. now, as it relates to writers, i think, they can more easily be replaced by artificial intelligence. now, other than fulfilling my dreams of being, liam. there's stark warnings, especially for writers, more so than writers, this a.i. technology is already quite powerful at writing scripts, in another 6 months' time, whose to
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tell what it will be able to do. >> you do have a very particular set of skills, especially when it comes to these a.i. stories, i find them so fascinating. these are the early stages of a.i. and when you look to the future, it could be troublesome for any kind of industry. at some point in the future, you could have an entire movie with actors of your choosing and potentially putting yourself in the film? >> exactly, you heard from tom hanks who is saying that he could write a script tomorrow and have a.i. play him as himself, similar to how harrison ford was de-aged. from tracking this on a daily basis, it's overwhelming, the developments in this technology. it seems like there's a new release everyday and every week there seems to be just multiplying and
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getting more powerful. this can have big ramifications not just for hollywood but for all of us. >> this summer, in taken. thank you for the reporting, always a pleasure. >> you speak spanish and english. >> a student newspaper journalist at stanford. stanford university's president stepping down after flaws were revealed as a neuro scientist, we're going to speak to the reporter w who broke that story next. ♪ bye, uncle limu. ♪ stay off the freeways! only pay for what you need.
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>> now to a scandal in the highest office of leadership. one of america's most believed universities. stamford's president just announced that he is resigning on august 31. after a special committee confirmed that some of his published work" serious flaws and the presentation of research data. mark levine said that he would retract three of 12 papers reviewed and corrected two more.he will remain on the faculty and said that stanford needs a president not hampered by questions of and ability to lead. he also said that he's thankful that the committee found that he did not knowingly engage in fraud. joining me now is theo baker. staff stamford student that
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broke the story in the campus daily starting in november of last year. >> anchor: theo, thank you so much for being with us. we're gonna go through what happened here. but first ããwhat tipped you off to looking into this story? >> well, thank you so much for having me. what's interesting about this story is actually if you need knew the right place to look ã ãa lot of it ããyou were already able to figure it out around since 2015. which is when a rumor started popping up on an anonymous form called pub here. a lot of folks focused on allegations of manipulation. places where it looked like something had been photoshopped and photoshopped out to make results look like something that they weren't. obviously, there have been a lot more things that have come out since then. since we started asking questions. but it all started from things that if you had tried to access them in 2015, you could've found exactly what we found. >> anchor: so explain to us these flaws and how culpable tessa levine was.
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these are testimony and questions from years before you even stepped foot into stamford. tell us about the timeline and the allegations here. >> yes. to all 12 papers will probably be retracted or corrected. most interesting ones are the five principal authors. of those five, three it has agreed to retract and emit lengthy corrections to. what happens now is the result of this report that just came out recently as you said. the report pushed tessa levine to questions and retractions that he had repeatedly failed to issue more than two decades. the committee found the committee that was set up to investigate him and that he found opportunities on a scientific record on multiple different occasions and that although he did not directly manipulate images or research data himself ããhe created an environment were people seemed incentivized to do separate he rewarded the winners and punish the losers. those are the people that cannot create the results that he wanted. >> i know it's summer.
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obviously right now. what is the reaction been like among the student body on campus? what's it been like for you? >> yes ããthis is obviously a shocking thing. turn of events for all of us to be experiencing. a year ago levine enjoyed one of the highest reputations in science. he's done some really fundamental work ããbut now he's resigned from his post. for president of an institution that spent billions of dollars of research to be accused of research misconduct. it's a hard thing to do when you want to maintain your credibility when you're telling people how to conduct the research. in the end as not even acknowledge that hampered his ability to lead. in the months leading up to that.something that he consistently denied. >> theo ããit is great to have you on to take us through your report here. it's really tremendous and obviously you have a bright future in journalism. so ããthank you for being with us this afternoon. >>en thanks so much and i eneappreciate the opportunity
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