tonight, lioness on the loose. police in germany on the prowl, looking to track down what is believed to be a lioness spotted on the outskirts of berlin after several witnesses reported a, quote, large predatory cat chasing a wild boar. police have deployed 30 police cars and 200 police cars. adding to the intrigue, nobody knows where the lioness escaped from. they've checked the zoos, parks and other facilities, and there is no lioness missing. well, thank you so much for joining us. we'll see if that mystery develops overnight. in the meantime, it's time for "ac 360" and anderson. good evening tonight on "360." the ukrainian city of odesa bracing for a possible fourth night of air strikes, the destruction on the ground.

robert f. kennedy jr. on capitol hill claiming he's never been anti-vaccine. and did the accused long island killer murder his victims in his sonoma the investigation spreads to las vegas and nevada. dos of drones and cruise missiles used last night. ukraine's air defense is struggling to cope with the intensity of the attack and types of missiles russia is using. in a moment we'll go to alex marardt in odesa, but first, cnn's fred pleitgen. >> reporter: search and rescue crews trying to save lives after another round of russian air strikes in southern ukraine. claiming they're hitting military targets. the russian armed forces continue retaliatory strikes with sea and air-based high precision with unmanned boats in

odesa, the spokesman says. but the ukrainians say the russians are targeting ukrainian infrastructure. one person was killed and several wounded when the a a missile hit this building in od odesa. the mayor irate. "another terrorist attack by nonhumans on the peaceful city of odesa," he says. "look at what they're doing. this is a nursery. there is a kindergarten nearby." others desperately hoping their loved ones might be found alive. "they're searching for my grandson," this man says. "from the recording, it seems he went down to the basement. they're trying to dig up the rubble." ukraine's air defenses were only able to shoot down about a quarter of the cruise missiles russia fired, kyiv says. putin's military using some of its heaviest naval missiles designed to destroy warships and each aircraft carriers. "there is no possibility to shoot them down because we

understand what kind of missiles they are, how fast they fly, and their trajectory, the spokesman for the air force says. ukraine says it needs more and better air defense capabilities from the u.s. and its allies or the authorities here will be able to do little more than try to save victims from the rubble after the attacks. fred pleitgen, cnn, berlin. >> alex marquardt has been in odesa all week and joins us from there now. alex, you've witnessed air strikes hitting the city for the past three nights. what are you seeing and hearing tonight? >> anderson, this is a city that is anxiously awaiting to see what happens tonight, whether russia has a fourth night of brutal attacks in store for it. these have been over the past three nights the worst attacks that this city has seen since this war began some 70 missiles over the past four days. president zelenskyy said tonight, and 90 of those iranian-made shahed drones have

been fired at southern ukraine. in the past 24 hours, there were three people killed, two in the city of mykolaiv, one here in odesa. anderson, for the past three nights when i've been on with you, we have been in the throes of those strikes by russia. they have happened relatively like clockwork, right on cue around 2:00 in the morning, continuing for about an hour and a half or almost two hours. tonight it is relatively quiet. it is an uneasy quiet given what we know about what has happened over the past three nights. you have a sense the residents are bracing. they are waiting to see what will happen for right now. there is no indication that anything is happening. there is a rather robust advance warning system here in ukraine. we often get a sense of what might be heading this way. right now we don't have any indication that anything is being fired at this city. why russia might be essentially taking a night off and not attacking odesa?

maybe they feel like they have made their point. they've also expended a huge amount of very expensive missiles over the past few days. we know that russia is running low on precision-guided munitions. now russia has said, contrary to the ukrainian claim, that they have been striking odesa because it is a retaliation for the ukrainian strike against the kerch bridge, that bridge that is connected to crimea back on monday. but so russia is saying that they are attacking odesa because those sea drones were based here and went out and attacked that bridge from here. so what russia still has planned, whether that retaliation will continue, that is what we're waiting to see. anderson? >> alex marquardt, thanks very much. we're going the come back to you should any strikes begin. back here in the u.s. and the special counsel's investigation into the former president's efforts to overturn the 2020 election, we're learning tonight that more witnesses may soon appear before the grand jury, which heard testimony today from two people.

the last time mr. trump was indicted, it happened 20 days after he received his target letter from the special counsel's office. it's been four days now since his second target letter was received. here with me now cnn senior legal analyst elie honig, and kaitlan collins. kaitlan, do we know who testified before the grand jury today? >> the most important person, even though he is not really a household name is will russell. he was someone kind of a bodyman, personal aide to trump inside the white house and followed him to mar-a-lago after he left the white house. importantly, he was there on january 6th. he was at the ellipse with trump. there is a ton of videos always by trump's side or kind of in the background. what's notable is this is his third appearance before the grand jury. and that's even baffling kind of to some of the trump attorneys of why he is going so many times. one really interesting thing happened today, and that just speaks to the complexity of this case, and also just how intertwined all of this. all of this is happening at a courthouse in washington. and will russell is before the

grand jury. his attorney is this guy stan woodward, who is also representing walt nauta, trump's co-defendant. he was late to a hearing, a verdict reading for a writer on january 6th. he got in trouble from the judge because he was late to that, and he had to tell the judge it was because he was dealing with executive privilege issues for will russell over here as he is testifying in front of the grand jury. >> so is this guy russell getting his attorney paid for by a political action committee of the former president? >> stan woodward's firm is paid by the pac that trump has that is paying the legal fees of these people. he is being paid, of course, through walt nauta as well and we believe will russell too. >> do we know how much longer the special counsel's office is expected to be calling witnesses? >> they still seem to have several more to go. obviously, will russell went today. we do believe someone else is going next week. we know bernie charkerik is sti setting up a time to go.

i don't think that last part really affects what happens whether or not we see indictments. bernie kerik isn't seen as a major player in this. but it is still notable, they are very much still investigating. >> elie, you and i have talked about this before. there could be an indictment and witnesses could still be testifying. >> absolutely. even if there are grand jury proceedings scheduled through august, this indictment could still drop at any time. here is why. by the book as a prosecutor, once you indict a case, you're supposed to stop using the grand jury, but only as to the four corners of the indictment. only as to the specific person you've indicted, the specific crimes you've indicted. but if you are investigating other crimes or other people, you absolutely can carry on. you know how prosecutors always say the investigation is ongoing, we say that all the time. this is why. because you always have an ongoing investigation. this indictment can come at any moment. >> why would a witness be brought back three times before a grand jury? >> a lot of different reasons. but sometimes getting full and accurate testimony out of witnesses, especially if they're loyal to the person they're testifying against, it's like pulling teeth. you don't get it all on the first time. it's a process.

sometimes maybe you've learned new information since the first and second time they came in, and you want to confront the witness with that. and sometimes it's just a scheduling issue. so it is unusual to have to bring someone back three times. it does tell me the prosecutors value this testimony. you wouldn't bother with a third time unless you really valued that testimony. >> you were saying this person was there with the former president on january 6th at the ellipse, at that rally. so theoretically, he could testify to the mind frame of the former president. he could even verify things that hutchinson had said. >> he could testify to things like that. remember, she was the one who when she testified before the congressional committee, talked about how trump had said to remove the magnetometers, just let everybody in, who cares. they're not trying to hurt me, if they did have weapons, which obviously is what the magnetometers were for. will russell was there. there is video of this tent that was backstage before trump got on stage and gave his famous speech. and will russell is seen in it. he certainly was around.

we don't know the extent to what he heard. but the idea that his attorney was complaining before this other judge that he believed they were essentially breaching executive privilege issues shows that they were obviously trying to ask about questions or conversations he had with trump. >> that tells me exactly that. they're trying to get those conversations. and i should note, donald trump has challenged a lot of testimony on executive privilege. i think his batting average is 000. he has lost every single executive privilege argument that he has brought. i'm sure he'll lose this one. and also to kaitlan's point, symptoms the bold faced names aren't the most important witnesses. we're very focused understandably on mark meadows, rudy giuliani, what are these folks doing. but cassidy hutchinson was unknown until she stood up a year ago in congress. and it turned out she had really important testimony. we shouldn't discount someone perhaps because they are a low-ranking aide or a bystander. >> when you hear on the face the president's political action committee may be paying the salary of the attorney representing this guy, that

seems like, well, how full testimony is he giving. is that fair? >> i'm glad this is coming out in this case, because this is a very common practice. it's not inherently illegal. it happens all the time. corporate cases a lot of times the ceo or the corporation pays for everybody. mob cases like i used to, the boss would pay for everybody for exactly this reason. absolutely, though, what it does is it makes it much more difficult to cooperate. a, because you're going to have a conflict of interest if you're going to be testifying against the person who is essentially paying your bill. so it is a phenomenon that happens all the time, and it really helps powerful people. and it's helping donald trump here. >> the flip side of that is attorneys would say well, i would never tell my client to not tell the truth. >> yeah, i think that's right. but as a practical matter, if you're having your lawyer paid for by donald trump, it's hard to say to him hey, i'm going to cooperate. also, there is a financial piece of this. defense lawyers are really, really expensive, six figures commonly. let's take walt nauta or this

guy. if he were suddenly to flip on donald trump, he would lose that lawyer. he would have the pay for his own lawyer. that's very expensive. >> also, that's what happened with cassidy hutchinson. she swapped attorneys because she felt they weren't allowing her to tell her full testimony to the january 6th committee. >> kaitlan collins, thanks. elie hoenig as well. you can see kaitlan at the top of the hours on the source at 9:00 p.m. still come tonight, grilling robert f. kennedy jr. after his view on vaccines after republicans invited him after alleged citizenship by democrats. >> do you think it was just as hard to wear a mask during covid as it was to hide under floorboards or false walls so you current dragged to a concentration camp. >> excuse me? >> that's a question. i said do you think it was just as hard to wear a mask during covid as it was to hide under floorboards or false walls so you weren't dragged to a concentration camp? >> of course not. >> that's a comparison you made. >> i did not make that

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else. on wednesday it was a hunter biden probe that appeared to do little to advance their claims. today it was accused censorship and featured heated testimony from robert f. kennedy jr. claimed into a fact check he's made over vaccines. brian todd has the story. >> reporter: presidential candidate robert f. kennedy jr. today answered several questionable defenses of his own conspiratorial claims, claiming the biden administration has been trying to silence him, telling a house panel this about his campaign against vaccines. >> i've never been any vaccine. everybody in this room probably believes i have been, because that's the prevailing narrative. >> reporter: an assertion that is false. >> this is one of america's most aggressive vocal prominent anti-vaxxer, and has been for years. i'm sure people have heard him for years asserting a link between childhood vaccine and autism, even though there is no such link. it doesn't stop there. he has in recent remarks claimed

the spanish flu pandemic of 1918 was caused by research. that's a debunked facebook instagram meme. >> reporter: candidate has basically called covid vaccines unsafe. today he made this claim. >> i have never told the public avoid vaccine. >> reporter: but cnn fact checker daniel dale points out he did claim in a 2021 podcast to have told people just that. >> i see somebody on a hiking trail carrying a little baby, and i say don't get him vaccinated. >> reporter: kennedy also said this today. >> in my entire life and why i'm under oath, in my entire life, i have never uttered a phrase that was either racist or anti-semitic. >> reporter: but it was just last week that a "new york post" video showed kennedy making this baseless claim. >> covid-19 is targeted to attack caucasians and black people. the people who are most immune

are ashkenazi yjews and chinese >> reporter: then this exchange with debbie wasserman schultz whether he had compared. >> do you think it was just as hard to wear a mask during covid as it was to hide under floorboards or walls so you weren't dragged to a concentration camp. >> of course not. that's ridiculous. >> that's a comparison you made. >> reporter: he did seem to make it last year. >> even in hitler germany you could cross the alps. you could hide in an attic like anne frank did. it was possible. today the mechanisms are being put in place that will make it so none of us can run, and none of cuss hide. >> reporter: analysts say the republicans on the house panel who invited him to testify see kennedy as someone who can validate their claims about democrats. >> the idea that democrats want

to senn censor critics or democrats want the take away people's freedoms vis-a-vis covid or masking or vaccines. >> reporter: analysts point thought is a far cry from the robert f. kennedy jr. of several years ago who was a credible environmental lawyer spending years to clean up the hudson river, and founding an environmental group devoted to water protection plans that worked all around the world. brian todd, cnn, washington. >> democrat stacey plaskett is the ranking member of the subcommittee on weapons inspection of the federal government which held the hearing today. she pushed back you heard kennedy made prior to the hearing that covid was ethnically targeted. >> these are individuals who would bring a witness who has promoted a video that compared the covid vaccine to the tuskegee trials. the tuskegee trials were a very

difficult time in black america where individuals who were already sick with a disease were then reviewed, experimented on, who already had a disease. to see how far that disease went. and making the comparison that manipulates and preys on black people's feelings about the atrocities of the past in order to prevent them from seeking life-saving vaccines in the present. >> delegate stacey plaskett joins us now. i appreciate you being with us, ranking member plaskett. what was wrong with robert f. kennedy jr. being there today? why did it so anger you? or appall you? >> i think that what's -- well, i think what's so upsetting about my republican colleagues is that they are giving a platform to an individual who is spewing conspiracy theories that are based on quasi science, on

false information, who is trying to get individuals pitted against one another, who is trying to deny people life-saving information. we know that his group, his children's defense group were the ones who spread information in minnesota which led to a rash of measles outbreak among a somali community because they believed that those vaccines were in fact harmful to them. these are the kinds of things that robert f. kennedy jr. is doing, and he is using his family's name as a shield to be able to reach him and let individuals know that this is not who his father was. this is not who his uncles were. and we need to stop giving him the credibility that they had because this guy is not -- he's not safe for american people. the things that he says is going

to get us all in trouble. >> i want to play another part of the hearing where you called out your republican colleagues for inviting him. . >> they intentionally chose to elevate this rhetoric to give these harmful dangerous views a platform in the halls of the united states congress. that's endorsing that speech. that's not just supporting free speech. they have cosigned on idiotic, bigoted messaging. >> he is also obviously running for president. how much of that plays into why you think he was invited there today? >> well, we know that chairman jordan, my colleague who i sit next to, the chairman, gets his marching orders from mark meadows, from donald trump, potentially from speaker mccarthy. i don't think he has much say in what happens in his conference. but those are the individuals who are determining that this committee should be used to test

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mccarthy has been working to get back in the former president's good graces after saying last month he may not be the strongest republican candidate for 2024. the speaker has also yet to publicly endorse his campaign. according to politico, the president was furious over the indictment, saying "he needs to endorse me today." mccarthy eventually called to apologize, saying he misspoke and also made the former president a promise. quote, the house would vote to expunge the two impeachment against the former president, he told trump, and as mccarthy would communicate to aides later that day, they would do so before the august recess. the politico report says speaker mccarthy made the deal on the spur of a moment and it has now put him in something of a bind, mainly, moderate house republicans do not want to relitigate the impeachments, but is loathe to upset supporters in the house as they could push to remove him. there is that as well as if he has the constitutional authority to expunge any president's

impeachment. we should note mccarthy denies making any promises to the former president. dana, what does this say about the hold the former president appears to have over the speaker of the house right now? >> it's tight. it's very tight. that has been the case for some time. but especially since january when kevin mccarthy had to go through so many 15 rounds of votes in order to get this t speakership. he was very much helped by donald trump, who made calls and got some of the last holdouts in the conference to relent and to vote for kevin mccarthy. and the idea that if there was a promise or not but whether this was entertained says a lot. because you put the question out there whether or not it is even a thing to expunge any impeachment. it is not a thing.

it is not a thing at all. it is not possible. it is possible to have a vote to express the sentiment of the house of representatives, but it won't change the fact -- >> there is not a giant quill pen with a feather that will expunge the record? >> you know, oddly, even though the former president would i'm sure want to make that so, there is no reality in which that exists. >> congressman, you worked with kevin mccarthy when you were in the house. is this just another example of how far he is willing to go to appease the former president? >> yes. and anderson, let me just scream it's not a thing. expungement is not a thing. you're exactly right. look, no tears for kevin mccarthy, anderson. this is exactly what he asked for when he sold his soul to donald trump after january 6th. and as dana said, when kevin mccarthy sold every inch of his body to the maga wing of his party to become speaker.

kevin mccarthy has no core, anderson. all he wants to do is be speaker. but here is the problem. he created this monster. trump is a monster. his maga, it's not even a wing. most of his caucus is maga. they're going to continue this. and i have no doubt, anderson, that mccarthy probably privately promised to expunge trump's impeachments. and i have no doubt that trump didn't understand that it wasn't a thing. but mccarthy probably didn't. and now kevin mccarthy is in so much trouble, anderson, he is going to probably have to publicly endorse trump. >> dana, do you think he'll do that? >> who knows. i mean, it is possible. look, the fact that he deigned to speak the truth back in that cnbc interview that you referred to, anderson, where he said that he wasn't sure that donald trump would be the strongest republican candidate against joe

biden, as soon as he said that, it was pretty clear that he was going to get an earful from the former president. and now the reporting is that is exactly what happened. it wouldn't be a surprise at all if he formally endorsed the former president, although tradition is that that tends to not happen. but i think tradition is kind of out the window at this point. >> how long do you think kevin mccarthy can last in that position? >> anderson, i think he'll last all two years because i think, again, he'll give away everything that he's got to remain speaker. dana's right. forget about tradition. he'll be forced now to get on his knees and pay homage again to trump and probably endorse him. it's going to upset the moderates, the expungement endorsing trump is going to upset the moderates in his caucus, but anderson, there are more trump supporters and maga

members in that caucus than moderates. and mccarthy has to do what they tell him to do to become speaker, and that's what he'll do. >> former congressman joe walsh, i appreciate it. >> can i quickly say? really quickly, politically it's probably easier for him to endorse than to have the moderates in his conference take a very, very tough vote. >> yeah. coming up next, appreciate it. thank you. coming up next, what a source saying phenomenon about the possibility the accused gilgo beach serial killer committed the three murders he's been charged with in his long island home that he shared with his wife, and why the investigation is widened to at least three other locations around the country. ebt hold you back. refi at sofi.com. you cocould save thousands and get to your goals faster. sofi. get your money right. (upbeat music) - [narrator] what if there was a hearing aid that could keep up with you? (notification dings) this is jabra enhance select. it's a smart hearing solion

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tonight, a source tells cnn john miller that investigators in the gilgo beach killings case are operating on the theory the suspect, the 59-year-old father of two committed the murders in his long island home. the source involved in the investigation says the suspect may have lured the victims to his home for dates. in a moment, i'll talk with john miller about his new reporting. first, some important details. for several days investigators have been searching the arc tess long island home. they've been seen carrying a number of items including more than 200 firearms and a filing cabinet. the suspect has pleaded not guilty to three murders and is a prime suspect in a fourth. all of them had done sex work.

they're among 11 sets found on the south shore more than a decade ago. authority says it's possible the accused could be connected to more killings. the investigation now spans across the country to other states where he owned property. details from cnn's brynn gingras. >> he is laying on his bunk. he has been extremely quiet. not really talkative to staff. >> reporter: accused serial killer rex heuermann alone and under suicide watch behind bars as the investigation into his alleged killings expands. >> i think in the coming days, as we continue to gather evidence, anything is possible. >> reporter: his wife of more than 27 years now filing for divorce. in a statement, her attorney said the sensitive nature of her husband's arrest is taking an emotional toll on the immediate and extended family. >> if you ask me, i don't believe that they knew about this double life that mr. hermann was living.

>> reporter: a week after the arrest, the investigation spans three states. authorities are searching not only his long island home, but also his office and nearby storage facilities, two las vegas condos he purchased, and in south carolina, where he owns land. sources tell cnn there agents toed heuermann's truck which they say connects him to one of three murders he's charged with committing more than a decade ago. authorities are combing through evidence. >> so what we're looking for potential trophy, souvenirs, jewelry, anything that could be attached to the four women or other women that he might have been involved with. >> reporter: several departments are also reviewing cold cases to see if heuermann is connected. this as more women are coming forward saying they too were solicited by him. >> i had a really, really bad feeling. like my gut was telling me i needed to get away from him. >> reporter: heuermann's phone logs and his dna are smoking guns in a case that ran cold for

years. court paperwork described how he used burner phones to taunt victims' families and researched this case as recently as last month. >> he tells me that he was concerned, trying to take a look at where do we stand as an investigative team. do we have someone that we may be looking at? i'm sure that would have scared him. >> reporter: the 59-year-old new york city architect has pleaded not guilty. but friend of one of the victims believes police got it right. >> it just makes me mad, because he is such a big monster. >> and brynn gingras joins us now. he hasn't said anything to police really since he's been arrested? >> no. and in that arrest, police say all he said is what is this for? and can i have an attorney? there is a long ride with authorities in the car from the middle of manhattan all the way to suffolk county where he is now being housed. and even there, authorities are saying he actually slept quite well that first night on hiss

intake. we know from sources that he asked "is this going to be on tv?" it's a very stark difference from what we're hearing from his attorney that day after he was charged, him saying he was very distraught and that he didn't do this. so it's interesting. >> i want to also bring in cnn chief law enforcement and intelligence analyst john miller. he is a former nypd deputy commissioner. what more are you learning about the idea that the murders may have been committed inside the home? >> one of the reasons they're conducting this search that seems to be going on for a very long time -- >> they're still searching? >> they are. and they're looking for trace evidence, biological evidence, something that could remain even after being cleaned up, even years later, because in the three cases that they have charged, in the case of amber costello, she leaves her house a truck that fits the exact description of the unique model chevy truck that he used seems to pick her up on the street away from her residence. and her phone is left behind.

but the assumption is he takes her to her residence. in the megan waterman case, her cell phone starts in a hotel way out and they can track it to his neighborhood at 1:46 in the morning. in the melissa barthelemy case, her phone is tracked to the area of his residence at 3:11 a.m. so there is a theory that he was making late-night appointments at his house in an environment where he would have access to what they call the murder kit, the things he was going use to tie them up and kill them, that he would have privacy. in each instance of those three cases, his family was out of town, and that he would have control. >> is one reason that he was arrested in new york city where he had an office because of that long drive back that brynn mentioned, that it would give them an opportunity if he was so inclined to talk to perhaps talk in the vehicle going back there? >> if he was a talker, that

would have been an added bonus, because you that two-hour time in traffic. but the arrest was because of a sense of urgency. when you look at his computer searches starting in march, when they get up in his computer through court-ordered surveillance, he is searching for -- he is clicking on a new serial killer task force that involves multiple agencies. see writing queries that say "why haven't they been able to trace the phone calls?" . he is clicking on articles saying new phone technology may break case. see feeling the hot breath of these guys on the back of his neck, and in the grand jury presentation, they were worried if this leaks out before the indictment on tuesday, he may run or destroy evidence. so they moved in thursday and grabbed him. >> and investigators also say because there were firearms at the home, they knew he had registered 92 firearms. so there was a safety issue as well. >> you're working on a documentary for the whole story on sunday at 8:00. a deep dive on this.

it's extraordinary the investigation that went into this and the fact that he was able to get away with it for so long, if he is in fact guilty. >> it really is. and talking to some of the investigators with the help of john there, it was interesting to hear the ah-ha moments when they knew they had their guy. one as john described was that truck. that was a major deal when they were able to triangulate the cell phone to boxes from the home to the workplace and then they were able to identify this truck belongs to a person who fits that description of a witness. so i found that interesting when we're all focused on dna and how that's so definite that that truck was that moment for the investigators. >> endlessly fascinating how people are able to maintain a double life like this, allegedly from the people closest to them. >> you know, if you look at the worst of the serial killers, david berkowitz, ted bundy, btk in the midwest, the ability to compartmentalize a family life where they appeared normal, a work life where their encounters

are typical, and then a very complex hidden life in this case involving burner phones, fake email addresses, anonymous contacts with sex workers, luring them to locations, a lot of work goes into it. and it is the hallmark of an organized killer. >> john miller, thank you so much. brynn gingras as well. coming up, inside of the race to spot deepfakes like this one of an explosion at the pentagon. and merely detecting ai images may not be enough. d with lipo. it's formulated with ingredients clinically shown to protetect your ears from dizziness, ear ringing, and even hearing loss. never miss a momenent with lipo flavonoid.

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real world panic that could be caused by an artificial image. >> we downloaded the pentagon deepfake emission uploaded into the pot form. >> -- but to a brief dip in the stock market. for a moment, there was concern america was under attack. >> here we go. it was able to pick up the image of 78% fake. >> wow. >> gupta is the ceo of the media, a company that has built technology to detect deepfakes. >> so if we look at what actually came through, a lot of it is about the cloud. the lighting conditions on the smoke or not what a real world explosion would appear as. >> the company is working with u.s. air force as u.s. government prepares for what some fear would be a deluge of disinformation through deep fakes. >> degenerative capabilities

will continue to grow. >> from a national security perspective, what are the concerns here? >> but photos claim that there was an explosion at the pentagon's an explosion. certainly that could be used to target -- >> they've been concerned for sometime. matt urich, and william korte, a part of the darpa program. >> darpa, shaping the future. >> darpa was set up in 1958 amid concerns that the united states was falling behind in the space race, and today it is still tasked with keeping up with the latest cutting edge research and technology. >> so what this is asserting and i away is that this is computer generated. >> darpa has been working for more than five years on american research and other institutions to developing-ology to spot the fix. >> you can tell in the building in the background it is not real it is hard to generate this fencing. nation states have always had the ability to manipulate

media. what is changing here, is the level of skill and resources needed to create those medium inoculations and as we are seeing, that continues to come down. >> gupta demonstrated how easy it is to create a fake image in seconds using one available online. >> you could type in anything and it will create whatever. >> pretty much. >> what if we created fake image of anderson cooper doing karaoke? >> sure. >> we will see if it gets it. >> here we go. [laughter] >> which one is your favorite? i kind of like the before. >> they've let his hair grow out. >> he then ran the deepfake through his detection system. >> here we see the results for our deepfake of anderson cooper

singing karaoke. interestingly, it got his face as being synthetically manipulated. i guess it is picking up on the lining of the synthetic version of anderson cooper's forehead and cheeks. again, it picked up on this person over here as being synthetically manipulated. >> and while some deep fixer caralee is that hired -- >> i am an absolute ball of zest. >> like this twitch account that streams hours of the pick trump and deepfake biden insulting one another. there is concerns that the technology could be used to cause chaos and confusion in the 2024 election campaign. professor honey fareed studies deepfakes and disinformation. >> i think the campaigns need to start thinking carefully about how they are going to combat these disinformation campaigns. they're absolutely coming. >> for the record, i have never done karaoke. the idea of it just -- has anyone found a beneficial

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