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of russian airstrikes. the latest on the destruction on the ground. conspiracy threats spread or robert f. kennedy junior on capitol hill, claiming he's never been anti vaccine. what his record shows, and what happened today. also, to the accuse long island serial killer murdered his victims in his home? the latest in the investigation, which now spans three states, including south carolina and nevada. we begin tonight, in ukraine, after three nights of intense russian airstrikes, dozens of drones and cruise missiles used last. night ukraine's air defense is struggling to cope with the intensity of attack, and the types officials russia is using. in a moment, we will go to our alex -- in odessa. but first -- >>, search and rescue crews, trying to save lives after another round of russian airstrikes in southern ukraine. for -- moscow's army claiming, they are hitting military targets. >> the russian armed forces continued to retaliate with sea and air based high force s

elevens on workshops, and warehouses, with unmanned boats in odessa and -- the spokesman says. but the ukrainians say, the russians are targeting civilian infrastructure. one person was killed, and several wounded. when a missile hit this building, in the port city of odessa. the mayor, irate. another terrorist attack by non-humans, on the peaceful city of odessa, he said. look at what they're doing, this is a nursery, this is a kindergarten nearby. others, desperately hoping their loved ones might be found alive. they are searching for my grandson, this man says, from the recording it seems he went down to the basement. they are trying to dig up the rubble. ukraine's air defenses were

only able to shoot down about a quarter of the cruise missiles russia fired, kyiv says. putin's military using some of its heaviest naval missiles, designed to destroy warships, and even aircraft carriers. >> there is no possibility to shoot them down, because we understand what kind of missiles they, are how fast they fly, and their trajectory, the spokesman for the air force says. >> ukraine says it needs more, and better, air defense capabilities from the u.s. and its allies, where the authorities here will be able to do little more than try to save victims from the rubble, after the attacks. -- cnn, berlin. >> alex marquardt has been odessa all, weeks and joins us now. alex, you witnessed airstrikes hitting the city for the past three nights, what are you seeing here tonight? >> anderson, this is a city that is anxiously awaiting to see what happens tonight, whether russia has a fourth night of brutal attacks in store for it. these have been, over the past three nights, the worst attacks

that the city has seen, since this war began. some 70 missiles, over the past four days. president zelenskyy said tonight, and 90 of those iranian-made shahed drones, have been fired at southern ukraine. in the past 24 hours, there are three people, killed two in the city of -- one here in odessa. anderson, for the past three nights, when i've been on with, you we have been in the throes of those strikes by russia. and, they have happened relatively like clockwork. you know, right on cuckoo around 2:00 in the, morning and continuing for an hour and a half, for almost two hours. tonight, it is relatively quiet. it is an uneasy quiet, given

what we know about what is happening over the past three nights. you have a sense that the residents are bracing, they are waiting to see what will happen. but for right, now there is no indication that anything is happening. there is a robust, advanced warning system here in ukraine. we often get a sense of what might be heading this way. right now, we don't have any indication that anything is being fired at the city. why russia might be, essentially, taking a night off, and not attacking odessa? maybe they feel like they have made their point. they have also expanded a huge amount of very expensive missiles, over the past few. days we know that russia is running low on precision guided munitions. now, russia has said contra to the russian -- did ukrainian claim, they have been striking odessa because it is a retallack retaliation for the ukrainian strike against the kurdish bridge. that bridge that is connected

to crimea back on monday. but, so russia is saying they are attacking odessa because those see drones were based here, and went out and attack that bridge. so what russia still has planned, whether that retaliation will continue. that we are wait to see, anderson. >> alex -- thanks very much. we're take you back, right here in the u.s.. and the special counsel's investigation into the former presidents to overturn the 2020 election. we are learning tonight that more witnesses may return -- which your testimony today from two people. the last time mr. trump was indicted, he it was 20 days after he received his target letter from the special counsel 's office. it has been for days now since his -- former assistant u.s. attorney, and anchor of the source at nine pm, kaitlan collins. caitlin, do we know who testified before the grand jury today? >> the most important person, even though he's not really a

household name, is will russell. he was someone who was kind of a body man, personal aide to trump inside the white house, and followed him to mar-a-lago after he left the white house. importantly, he was there at january six. he was at the ellipse with trump. i mean, there is a ton of videos of him always by trump's side, or kind of in the background. what's notable is that, this is his third appearance before the grand jury. and, that's even baffling, to some of the trump attorneys, of why he is going so many times. one really interesting thing happened today, and this just speaks to the complexity of this case, and also just how intertwined all of this is. all of this is happening in a courthouse in washington. and, will russell is before the grand jury. his attorney is this guy, stan woodward, who was also

representing other people, walt nauta, trump's codefendant. he was late to a hearing, a verdict reading for someone, a rioter at january 6th. he got in trouble from the judge, because he was late to. that he had to tell the judges, who because he was dealing with executive privilege issues, for will russell over here, as he is testifying in front of the grand jury that is hearing evidence on this. >> so is this guy russell, getting his attorney paid for by a political axe action community -- >> stand woodward's firm is paid for by, yeah, the legal path that trump has that is paying the legal fees of these people. he is being paid of course through walt nauta as well, and we believe will russell too. >> do we know how much longer the special counsel's office is expected to be calling witnesses? >> they still seem to have

several more to go. i mean, obviously we'll russell with today. we do believe someone else is going next week. we know, bernie kerik, the former former new york city police commissioner, still trying to have a time to go. i don't think that last part really affects what happens with whether or not we see indictments. bernie kerik isn't seen as a major player in this. but it is still notable, they are still very much investigating. >> and ali, you and i have talked about this before. there could be an indictment, and witnesses could still be testifying. >> absolutely, even if there are grand jury proceeding schedule before, august this indictment could still drop at anytime. and here is why. by the book as a prosecutor, once you indict a case, you are

social stop using the grand jury, but only asked for the four corners of that indictment, only as to the specific person even, under the specific crimes you've indicted. but if you are investigating other crimes, or other people, you absolutely have to carry on. you know the prosecutors always say the investigation is ongoing, we say that all the time. this is why, because you always have an ongoing investigation. this and i've come at any moment. >> why would a witness be brought back before the grand jury's? >> a lot of different reasons, but sometimes full and accurate testimony, expected loyal to the person that testifying in, against like pulling teeth. you don't get all in the first time. it's a process, sometimes maybe, you've learned new information since the first and second time they've come in, and you want to confront the witness with that. and sometimes, it's just a scheduling issue. so, it is unusual to bring someone back three times. it does tell me the prosecutors value this testimony. you wouldn't bother with a first time, unless you really valued this testimony. >> and you are saying, he was there with the former president,

on january 6th at the ellipse, at that rally. so, theoretically, he can testify to the mindset of the former president, he could even verify things that he had said. >> he can testify to things like that. remember, he was learned when he testified before the congressional committee, top of how trump has said to remove the magnetometers, just let everybody, and who cares, they're not trying to hurt me. if they did have weapons, which obviously is with the -- will russell, we are told was there. i mean, there is video of this tent that was backstage, before trump got on stage and gave his famous speech. and will russell is seen in. and so, he certainly was around. i mean, we don't know the extent of what he heard. but the idea that his attorney was complaining before this other, judge that he believed they were essentially breaching executive privilege issues, shows they were obviously trying to ask about questions, or conversations he had with trump. >> and that tells me, exactly, that they are trying to get those conversations. and i should note, donald trump

has challenged a lot of testimony on executive privilege. i think his batting average is, zero, zero, zero. he has lost every single executive privilege argue that he's brought. and i'm sure, this one. and also to kaitlan's point, sometimes the boldface names aren't the most important witnesses. we are very focused, understandably, on mark meadows, rudy giuliani, one of these folks -- but catching coffee hutchinson was unknown until she still a year ago in congress. and it turns, out she had really important testimony. so, we shouldn't discount someone, just because they were promised a low ranking aid or a bystander. sometimes, they have the most valuable testimony. >> i mean, when you're on the face of, of the former presidents political action committee may be paying the salary of the attorney representing the sky. that seems, like well, how full of a testimony is he getting? is that fair >> i'm glad this is coming out in this case. because this is a very common practice. it's not inherently illegal. it happens all the time, corporate cases, a lot of times the ceo of the corporation pace for everyone. mob cases, like i used to do, the boss and pay for everybody, for exactly this reason. absolutely though, what it does mora, has who >> kaitlan collins, -- elie honig. thank you, you can see caitlin top of the hour at the source. still to come tonight, another day of capitol hill chaos. democrats grilling robert f. kennedy junior but his profitable vaccines, after republicans identify -- - excuse me? >> that is a question yes or no. >> i did not hear question. >> i said do you think it was just as hard to wear a mask during covid, as it was to hide under floorboards or false walls, so you were not murdered or track to the concentration camp. >> of course not. that is ridiculous. >> that is a comparison you made. >> there is video.

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on wednesday, it was a hunter biden probe that appears to the little to advance their claims. today's topic was alleged government censorship, and a future testament from robert f. kennedy junior, turned into a heated fact check over claims he has made over vaccines. brian todd has more. >> democratic presidential candidate robert f. kennedy junior today issued several questionable defenses of his own conspiratorial claims. claiming, the biden administration has been trying to silence, him telling a house panel, this is about his campaign against vaccines. >> i have never met any vaccine, but everybody in this room probably believe that i have been. that is the propelling narrative. >> an assertion that is false. >> this is one of america's most oppressive vocal prominent anti-vaxxers, and has been four years. i'm sure people have heard him for years asserting a link between childhood vaccination, and autism even though there is no such link, and it does not even stop. there he has in recent public remarks claimed -- in 19, 18 and caused by vaccine

research, -- >> kennedy has baselessly called covid vaccines unsafe, today he made this claim. >> i have never told the public to avoid vaccination. >> cnn fact checker daniel dale points out he did point out in a 2021 podcast to have told people just that. >> i've seen somebody on a hiking trail, and i said the -- >> committee also said this today. >> in my entire, life and while i'm under oath, in my entire life i have never bothered a phrase that was either racist, or antisemitic. >> but it was just last week, the new york post video showed kennedy making this baseless claim. >> covid-19 is targeted to attack occasions and black people. the people who are most immune are ashkenazi. and chinese. >> he denied -- to spare. then there was this exchange, with democratic congresswoman, debbie wasserman schultz. regarding whether kennedy at compared covid restrictions to not see

persecution of. >> do you think it's just hard to wear a mask during covid, as it was to hide under floorboards or false walls, so you weren't murdered or drag to a concentration camp? >> of course not. that's ridiculous. that's >> a comparison that you made. >> i did not make that comparison. >> he did seem to make that comparison last year. >> even in hitler's germany, you could cross the alps into switzerland. you could hide and added the like and frank did. it was possible. today, the mechanisms are being put in place, that will make it so none of us can run, and none of us can hide. >> analysts say the republicans on the house panel who invited him to testify see kennedy as someone who can validate their claims about democrats. >> the idea that democrats want to censor critics or that democrats want to take away peoples freedoms. vis-à-vis, covid, or masking, or vaccinations. >> analysts point out, this is a far cry from the robert f. kennedy junior of several years ago. who was a credible and effective environmental lawyer. spending years spearheading a successful efforts to clean up the hudson river. and founding

an environmental group devoted to water protection plans, that worked all around the world. brian todd, cnn, washington. >> democrat stacey plaskett is the ranking member of the subcommittee on weaponization of the federal government, which held the hearing today. she pushed back on the comments you heard kennedy make prior to the hearing. that covid was ethnically targeted. >> these are individuals who would bring a witness whose promoted a video. that compared the covid vaccine to the tuskegee tribes. the tuskegee trials were a very difficult time in black america. where individuals who were already sick, with the disease, where then reviewed, experimented on who already had a disease to see how far that disease went. and making the comparison to manipulate and

praise on black people's feelings about the atrocities of the past. in order to prevent them from seeking lifesaving vaccines in the present. >> delegate stacey plaskett joins us now. appreciate you being with us, ranking member plaskett. what was wrong with robert f. kennedy junior being there today? why did it so anger you? or a paul you? >> i think, well, i think what's so upsetting about my republican colleagues they are giving a platform to an individual who is spewing conspiracy theories that are based on quasi-science, false information, who is trying to get individuals pitted against one another. who is trying to deny people lifesaving information. we know that his group, his children's defense group, were the ones who spread information in minnesota. which led to a rash of measles outbreaks among a somali community, because they believe that those vaccines were in fact harmful to them. these are the kinds of things that robert f. kennedy junior is doing. and he's using his family's name as a shield to be able to reach him and that individuals know that this is not his father was,

this is not who is uncles were. and we need to stop giving him the credibility that they had. because this guy, he's not safe for the american people. the things that he says are going to get us all in trouble. >> i want to play another part of the hearing, where you called out your republican colleagues for inviting him. >> they intentionally chose to elevate this rhetoric, to give these harmful, dangerous views a platform, in the halls of the united states congress. that's endorsing that speech. that's not just supporting free speech. they have cosigned on idiotic, bigoted messaging. >> he's obviously running for president, how much of that plays into why you think he was invited there today? >> well, we know that chairman jordan, my colleague who i sit next to, the chairman, gets his marching orders from mark meadows, from donald trump, potentially from speaker mccarthy, i think as much say in what happens in his conference. but those are the individuals who determining that this committee should be

used to test run every conspiracy theory that's going to be used in the 2024 presidential race. so, having an individual who they believe is going to hurt president biden, it's something that they're going to amplify and elevate. we gave information that this individual, there's a super pac, associated with him. that is the same super pac organizers who have been the super pac for marjorie taylor greene, george santos, and the failed campaign of herschel walker. so, he is pushing issues that are going to support the republican party. what's even more frightening, their whole notion that social media companies, which are private companies, private platforms, that are open to public use, should not be checked, should not be looked at. should not be information should not be looked at them. it has a chilling effect on the social media companies. and we know in the run up to 2020, four elections, that russian trolls, the chinese, the iranians, are going to be trying to push voter disinformation. trying to suppress the american people from voting. >> -- appreciate. time >> >> thank you. >> coming,

up speaker of the house make a secret deal to expunge the former presidents to impeachments? was that even possible? is that a thing? details, ahead. new details tonight about a possible deal between house speaker kevin mccarthy and the former president, to potentially expunge the former president to impeachment. the deal was first reported by politico. mccarthy has been working to get back to the former president's good graces, after saying last month he may not be the strongest republican candidate for 2024. speaker also has yet to publicly endorse his campaign. according to politico, the former president was furious over the comments, saying quote, he needs to endorse me today. mccarthy eventually called to apologize, saying he misspoke, in the same conversation, according to politico, also made the former president promised, quote, the house would vote to expunge the two impeachment against the former

president, he told trump. this is through political. as mccarthy would communicate through aides later that same day, they would do so before the august recess. the political report says the speaker mccarthy made the deal, in this part of the moment. and is now put him in something of a bind. he did some moderate house republicans don't want to re-litigate the impeachments, re-litigate the impeachments, -- refi at sofi.com. you could save thousands and get to your goals faster. sofi. get your money right. ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ [baby crying] ♪

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possible deal between house speaker kevin mccarthy, to -- the deal was first to reported by politico, mccarthy has been working to get back at the former president's good graces after saying last, month he may not be the strongest republican candidate for 2024. the speaker has also yet to publicly endorsed his campaign. according to politico, the former president was furious over the comments, saying quote, he needs to endorse me today. mccarthy eventually called to apologize, saying he misspoke, in the same conversation, according to politico, also made the former president promised, quote, the house would vote to expunge the two impeachment against the former president, he told trump. this is through political. as mccarthy would communicate through aides later that same day, they would do so before the august recess. the

political report says the speaker mccarthy made the deal, in this part of the moment. and is now put him in something of a bind. he did some moderate house republicans don't want to re-litigate the impeachments, but then speaker mccarthy is loathe to upset the former president, and his supporters in the house, as they push to remove him. there is, that as well as the question in the house, even as the constitutional authority to expunge any presidents impeachment. we should also note, speaker mccarthy denies making the promise to the former president. joining me now, former republican congressman, joe walsh, and cnn chief political correspondent, dana bash. dana, what is this all situation say about the hold the former presidents appears to have over the speaker of the house right now? >> it's tight. it's very tight. that has been the case for sometime. especially since

january, when kevin mccarthy had to go through so many 15 rounds of votes, in order to get the speakership. he was very much helped by donald trump. whom he calls and got some of the last holdouts in the conference to relent. into vote for kevin mccarthy. the idea that whether there was a promise for, not whether this was even entertained says a lot. because you put the question out there, whether not achieve anything to expunge any impeachment. it's not a thing. it's not a thing at all. it's not possible. it's possible to have a vote to express the sentiment of the house of representatives, it won't change the fact. -- >> there's not a giant pan with a big factor that will expunge the record? >> no. you know, oddly, even though the former president would, i'm sure want to make that, so there is no reality in which that exists. >> congressman, you are kevin mccarthy, when you are in the house, is just another example of how far he's willing to go to appease the former president? >> yes. anderson, let me just

scream, it's not a thing! expungement is not a thing! you're exactly right. look, no tears for kevin mccarthy, anderson. this is exactly what he asked for when he sold his soul to donald trump after january 6th. and as dana said, when kevin mccarthy sold every inch of his body to the maga wing of his party, to become speaker. kevin mccarthy has no core, anderson. all he wants to do is be speaker. but here's the problem, he created this monster. trump is a monster, his maga wing, it's most of his caucus's mega, they're going to continue this. i have no doubt, anderson, mccarthy probably privately promised to expunge trumps impeachments. and i have no doubt that trump did not understand that it wasn't a thing, but mccarthy probably did it. and now kevin mccarthy isn't so much trouble, anderson, he's going to probably have to publicly endorse trump. >> dana, do you think he'll do that? >> who knows. it is possible. look, the fact that he dared to speak the truth back in that cnbc interview that he referred to, anderson, where he said that he wasn't sure that donald trump would be the strongest republican candidate against

joe biden, as soon as he said that, it was pretty clear, he was gonna get an earful from the former president. now, the reporting is that exactly what happened. it would not be a surprise at all if he formally endorsed the former president, although, tradition is that tends to not happen. but i think, tradition is out the window at this point. >> congressman, how long do you think kevin mccarthy can last interposition? >> anderson, i think he'll last all two years. i think, again, he'll give away everything he's got to remain speaker. dane is right. forget about tradition, he will forced to get on his knees and pay homage again to trump and probably endorse him. it's going to upset the moderates, the expungement, endorsing trump is going to upset the moderates in his caucus. anderson, there are more trump supporters and maga members in that caucus then moderates. and mccarthy has to do what they tell him to do to become speaker. and that's what he'll

do. >> former congressman joe walsh, appreciate it, dana bash, anderson i just quickly say. notice really quickly, politically, it's probably easier for him to endorse that to have the moderates in his conference. take a very, very tough. >> yes, coming up next, appreciate, a sources saying >> you make of next, that what a source is saying about the accused beach cereal, killer committed at the three, murkowski has been charged with and has long island home where he shared with his wife. why the investigation has widened to at least three other locations around the country. eryone else did at the time. i hired local talent.

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number of items from the property, including more than 200 firearms, in a filing cabinet, suspect has pleaded not guilty to three murders and the prime suspect in a fourth. all of them had done sex work. they are among 11 sets of remains found at the long island south shore more than a decade ago. authorities say, it is possible the accused could be connected to more killings. the investigation now spans across the country to other states where he owned property. details from cnn. >> he is laying on his, bunkie has been extremely quiet, not really talking. >> accused serial killer rex you, berman alone, and under suicide watch behind bars as the investigation into his alleged killings expands. >> i think in the coming, days as we continue to gather evidence, anything is possible. >> his wife of more than 27 years, now filing for divorce. in a statement, her attorney said, the sensitive nature of her husbands arrest is taking an emotional toll on the

immediate and extended family. >> if you ask me, i don't believe that they knew about this double life that he was living. >> a week after his arrest, the investigation spans three states. authorities are searching not only his long island home, also his office. and nearby storage facilities. two las vegas condos he purchased, and in south carolina, where he owns land. sources tell cnn, their agents told his truck, which they said connects him to one of three murders he's charged with committing more than a decade ago. >> authorities are combing through evidence. >> so, we're looking for potential trophies, souvenirs, jewelry. anything that could be attached to the four women. or other women that he might have been involved with. >> several department are also reviewing cold cases to see if he is connected. this as more women are coming forward, saying they too were solicited by him. >> i had a really, really bad feeling. my gut was like, telling minute i need to

get away from him. >> his phone logs and his dna police say, are smoking guns in the case that ran cold for years. court paper describes how use burner phones to taunt victims families, and research this case as recently as last month. >> he tells me that he was concerned, trying to take a look at where we stand as an investigative team. do we have someone that may be possibly looking at it? i'm sure that would've probably scared him. the 59-year-old -- has pleaded not guilty. and one a frightening victims believes police got it right. makes me mad, he's such a big monster. >> she joins us now. he hasn't said anything to beliefs that he's been arrested. >> no, in fact in that arrest, police said all he said was, what is this for? can i have an attorney? there's a long ride with authorities in the car

from the middle of men had all the way to southern county, where he is now being in-house. he actually slept quite well that first night on his intake we know from sources that it's gonna be on tv. very stark difference from overhearing whose attorney that day after his charged him saying that he was very distraught and that he didn't do this so it's interesting i want to bring in cnn chief law enforcement and intelligence analyst, john miller, former nypd deputy commissioner what more you learning about the idea that the murders may even committed inside the home? >> one of the reasons they're conducting this search that seems to be going on for very long time. >> still searching the home. >> they are. they're looking for trace evidence biological evidence something that could remain even after even years later because in the three cases that they've charged, in the case of amber costello, she leaves her house a, truck that fits the exact description of the unique model chevy truck that he used seems to pick her up on the street, away from her residence. and her phone is left behind, but the assumption is, he takes her to her

residence. and measurement meghan waterman case, herself phone starts in a hotel way out in -- miles east of his house. they can track it right to his neighborhood. at 1:46 in the morning. and then melissa barthelemy case, her phone is tracked to the area of his residence at 3:11 am. so, there is a theory that he was making late night appointments at his house, in an environment where he would have access to what they called the murder, kit things he was getting used to tie them up. and kill them. that he would have privacy because, in each instance of those three cases, his family was out of town, and that he would have control . >> is one reason he was

arrested in new york city where he had an office because of that long drive back that they mentioned, it would give him an opportunity if he was inclined to talk, talk in the vehicle going back there? >> if he was a talker that would've been an added bonus because you have the two hour time in traffic but the arrest was because of a sense of urgency. when you look at his computer searches starting in march when they get on his computer through court authorized surveillance, he is searching for, clicking on a new serial killer task force that involves multiple agencies. he's riding queries that say, why haven't they been able to trace the phone calls. he's cooking on article saying, new phone technology. may break case. he's feeling the hot breath of these guys on the back of his neck. and in the grand jury presentation, they were worried, if this leaks out before the indictment on tuesday, he may run or destroy evidence. they moved in thursday and grab him.

>> investigators also say, because there were firearms at the home, they knew he had registered 92 firearms. there is a safety issue as well. >> you are working on documentary for the whole story on sunday at 8:00. a deep dive on this. it's an extraordinary investigation that went into this. and the fact that he was able to get away with it for so long if he's in fact guilty. >> it really is. in talking to some of the investigators with the help of john, it's interesting to hear the aha moment. when they knew that they had their guy. one of them, as john just described, that truck. that was a major deal. they were able to triangulate the cellphone to boxes they described him from home. to the workplace. and then are able to identify this truck, belongs to a person who fits that description of that witness. i found that interesting rural focus on dna. and how that so key, a definite that truck was that moment for the investigators. >> endlessly fascinating how people are able to maintain a double life like this. allegedly, from the people closest to them. >> you know if you look at the

worst of the serial killers, david berkowitz, ted bundy, btk, the ability to compartmentalize a family life, with a where they appeared normal, overcorrect weather encounters are typical, and then a very complex, hidden life, in this case involving burner phones, fake email addresses, anonymous contacts with sex workers. luring them two locations. a lot of work goes into it. it's the hallmark of an organized killer. >> john miller, thank so much. brynn gingrass as, well thank -- like this one of an explosion at the pentagon and why merely detecting images might not be enough. >> woman: why did we choose safelite? >> vo: for us, driving around is the only way we can get our baby to sleep, so when our windshield cracked, we needed it fixed right. we went to safelite.com. there's no one else we'd trust. their experts replaced our windshield,

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>> there's a new player in the field of artificial intelligence, bloomberg is

reporting that apple is -- openai's chatgpt, internal engineers reportedly calling the surface apple gpt-4, -- there is no release date yet for the product right now can only be used by apple employees but generative a.i. has become a major push for the tech giant. there is much excitement around the new technology, there's also concern about the potential dangers a my generated images can cause whether people can spot fakes, that could be caused by artificial image. our reporter has more. >> we downloaded the pentagon deepfake image and uploaded into the platform. >> when the fake image purporting to show an explosion at the pentagon, it led to a deep -- america was under attack. >> here we go. >> it was able to pick up the pentagon image of 78% fake. >> wow. >> he is the ceo of deep media

company that has built technology to detect deepfakes. >> if you look at what actually came through as fake in the detector a lot of it, again, it's about the cloud, the lighting conditions on the smoke or not what a real world explosion would appear as. >> his company is working with the u.s. air force as the u.s. government prepares for what some fear will be a delusion of disinformation through deepfakes. >> the generative a.i. capabilities are just going to continue to grow. >> from national security perspective what are the concerns here? >> that photos that claimed there was an explosion at the pentagon is one example, certainly, that could be used to target the decision-making process of the government. >> they are part of the pentagon's program. >> shaping the future. >> it was set up a 1958 amid concerns of the united states was falling behind in the space

race, today it is still tasked with keeping up with the latest coating ed resurgent technology. >> what this algorithm is asserting anyway is that this is computer generated. >> it has been working for more than five years to develop technology to spot the fakes. >> you can see some tells may be in the building background, right, it doesn't look real it's hard to generate the fencing. >> nation states have always at the ability to manipulate media, i think what is changing here is what is the level of skill and resources needed to create those media manipulation and as we are seeing that continues to come down. >> he demonstrated just how easy it is to create a fake image in second using a tool available online. you can type in anything and it will create whatever? >> yes, pretty much. >> should we try? what do you want to come up with today? >> what if we create a fake image of anderson cooper doing karaoke?

>> sure. >> all right, let's see if this one gets it. >> it's remarkable how quickly this generates. >> yes, here we go. [laughter] >> which one is your favorite? i like number four. >> they've let his hair grow. >> he ran the deepfake anderson threw his deepfake detection system. >> we see the results of the deepfake as anderson cooper singing karaoke, interestingly it got his face as being synthetically manipulated, but it's picking up on the lighting of the synthetic version of anderson cooper's forehead and cheeks. again, it picked up on this person over here as being synthetically manipulated -- >> there's nothing synthetic about anderson's cheekbones. and while some deep fakes are satire. like this twitch account that streams hours of deepfake trump and biden, insulting when another. there are very real concerns

that this technology will be used to cause chaos and confusion in the 2024 election campaign. professor studies deepfakes and disinformation. >> i think that the campaigns need to start thinking carefully about how they are going to combat these disinformation campaigns, because they are coming. >> he joins us now. for the record i have never done karaoke. the idea of it just -- >> should we go after? >> not in 1 million years, doesn't interest me. has anyone else found a beneficial use of deepfakes, other than him -- >> look, yes, you can have a lot of fun with it, it's fascinating to see, we're seeing it obviously being used in hollywood, some people are saying it's great you can do special effects easier, we also know that sag-aftra and the actors union have problems with that, and it doesn't take a lot of imagination to see how this can be used in a bad way for elections. i do want to show we created a few more deepfakes using this

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infamous unsolved shootings, -- in connection with the investigation into tupac shakur 1996 killing belongs to the wife of the self proclaimed witness to the shooting, police took a number of items from the home including iphone, computers in photos. now after nearly 30 years of mystery the question is could investigators finally name a suspect. tonight at 11:30 pm sara snider interviews tupac shakur's brother, that's it for us the news continues the source with kaitlan collins starts next. tonight, straight from the source, odessa is on edge for a fourth evening. the sirens were sounding just moments, ago in the southern port city, that has been shaken by days of russian attacks, we will take you there, live. also, the grand jury considering charging donald trump