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will come when i will say inter miami instead of inter milan when i talk about this team. today was not that day. big day, big night for you guys down there, thanks, buddy. >> messi doesn't have to worry about all the publicity. he's used to that. but "cnn this morning" continues right now. investigates think the suspected gilgo beach serial killer may have committed the murd murders in his own home. >> now that we have dna we can compare it to other crime scenes. >> in each instance of those three cases his family was out of town and that he would have control. >> special counsel has been scheduling additional witness interviews with people they've never spoken with before. they are absolutely worried about the fact that no one else has received a target letter. >> always have an ongoing investigation. >> are we now closer to finding
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out who killed tupac shakur? >> las vegas police have executed a search warrant at a home in henderson, nevada. >> i was asking him what happened, and he responded to me with the new infamous words f you. >> this theory hasn't been looked into for 27 years. why? a conspiracy theorist taking center stage, rfk jr. denying he said what we've heard him say. >> in my entire life, i have never uttered a phrase that was either racist or anti-semitic. >> i can't think of someone who's espoused such anti-semitic ideas getting this kind of a platform. this is the movie event of the year, the twin premier of barbie and oppenheimer. >> so happy we've made like a big summer blockbuster. >> i'll be going to go see probably 100%. >> barbie first, oppenheimer for lunch and then a barbie chaser. >> if i could gift any audience member something you are doing great because you are you and
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that is enough. that's what i would do. and a very good friday morning to you. a barbie chaser actually sounds great. it is friday. so we are ready for that. >> can we contextualize this day real quick before we get into the hard news of things? it's friday. the theaters matter are important. it's a summer blockbuster with no comparison. u.s. women's national team plays in the world cup tonight. >> messi is here. >> it is a good day. >> a lot of great stuff going on. we have lot of news as well. we're going to start with a disturbing story developing overnight. that is the gilgo beach serial killer investigation. a source telling cnn that investigators now believe that the suspect actually murdered those victims inside of his own home luring them there. and the reason they think that is because the women disappeared when his wife and children were out o out of town. >> crime scene investigators have been scouring the house on
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long island in new york. they've been meticulously combing for any trace of evidence that may be linked to the victims. cnn's gene kajean casarez is he the details. >> investigators were able to put together the travel records of his wife during those years, 2009, 2010, and they found that she was out of town every time one of those girls went missing. and so it was believed that -- and it's been a working theory for quite a while now that he committed the murders in the home because they say he would have control there. remember, they were bound with duct tape and belts in burlap, and he would have the ability to do all of that. it also spexplains the four hai from his wife that are found on the victims or on the duct tape. that is highly nubblunusual rig there. they didn't have this ability in 2009, 2010. there's even more. they were able to find out his burner phone number, his
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personal cell number and the victims' cell number and in recent years they've been able to triangulate through the cell phone tower data those three numbers on the days and bfrp the days, even after the days they went missing. the burner phones were used to contact victims' phones in new york city, and then the burner phones and the victims' phones together with the same cell tower data went to massapequa where he lived, and that when the girls went missing their cell phones were in the massapequa area, and they were triangulating all of this in recent years, and that comes to this working theory. we want you to listen last night with erin burnett, the suffolk county sheriff spoke out on the home and the search they're doing for over a week now for forensics, here's what he said. >> every piece of evidence that could be gathered, whether it's from the storm waage containers
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his home, could be valuable not only to the murders he's currently being charged with, but more importantly if we can connect him to other murders, whether they were in new york or other locations. >> now here's the reality that you have to remember. this is 2009, 2010. they're searching that home for forensics, and you know, they have to search every nook and cranny. they've got to lift up the carpeting, look at the kcrevice of the mattresses. normally you look in the drain for something. for the duration of time that may be difficult. while this is going on, the wife of rex heuermannas filed for divorce. she filed for divorce on thursday. with we want to read a statemen her attorney. he says as you can imagine our client and her family are going through a devastating time in their lives. the sensitive nature of her husband's arrest is taking an emotional toll on the immediate and extended family, especially their elderly family members. and remember, the whole family
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is out in long island, and the home that is possibly the primary crime scene is the home that rex heuermann was raised in. that's the home he was raising his family in, and there were two children at that time in 2009, 2010. may have been out of town also with their mother. >> i mean, the secrets seem to be really piling up. we should remind folks, hay found that trove of weapons in a hidden part of the home. there's just so much there that they are now potentially discovering. >> and rex heuermann is pleading not guilty. his attorney is saying this is a circumstantial case and they're saying it's not weak. we have to see how it develops. >> really fascinating reporting on all of that. also this morning, that deadline has come and gone for donald trump to respond to the special counsel's january 6th target letter. the grand jury did convene yesterday and heard from trump aide will russell. he was asked about interactions he had with trump in office. trump and his team are waiting
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to see if and when a potential indictment will come over his efforts to overturn the 2020 election. cnn has learned that the special counsel is still lining up witness interviews. let's bring in cnn's legal analyst elie honig. why? why are they still lining up witness interviews if it seems like or appears like an indictment may be coming soon. >> to use a phrase the prosecutors love, the investigation is ongoing. you are allowed to continue calling witnesses to continue using a grand jury, even after you return an indictment, so long as there's some other aspect outside the scope of that indictment, so long as you're still investigating some other person or some other charge. and so even if there's witness testimony scheduled for mid-august, late august, we are on the clock right now. this indictment could come at any moment. >> what do you make of this reporting that we talked about that at a hearing just yesterday it was basically revealed that the questioning in the special counsel's grand jury was
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touching on special -- things that might have been construed to be executive privilege, at this late stage of the investigation that they're p prepr pressing a witness close to trump. >> they were asking the witness, mr. russell about his conversations with donald trump. that's the only thing that executive privilege could even arguably apply to. it sounds like the witness tried to invoke executive privilege saying those were my conversations as a white house staffer with donald trump, he will lose that given the track record. donald trump and everyone around him who has tried to invoke executive privilege has lost. generally speaking executive privilege is not going to take precedence in a criminal case. >> would that have to be litigated? >> there was reporting it actually went this front of a judge yesterday. this is a youll a grand jury. we don't know how it came out. this is soot persanother person well place instead the white
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house. you can have a witness who's super important who's maybe a lower level aide as long as they saw something and heard something, you're a witness and your information could be invaluable to prosecutors. >> the january 6th committee did a voluminous investigation talking to so many people and a very significant report to go along with the hearings themselves. they never spoke to will russell, and yet the special counsel has. what does that tell you? >> it tells me -- this is the first real indication -- i think that's a great point -- that doj has gone beyond the january 6th committee, and it's not at all surprising because they've had way more time and, remember, prosecutors have way more powerful enforcement tools than the committee did. the committee did an outstanding job putting the base in place. it's clear jack smith has gone beyond that. >> congress at the time was frustrated because they felt like doj wasn't pursuing this investigation with those investigative tools they have at their disposal. elie, thanks again as always. another day of extreme heat is shaping up this friday. about 100 million americans will
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be urn nder heat alerts facing oppressive record high temperatures. powerful winds in north georgia knocked out this gym wall on thursday. s storms in multiple states brought some relief. thousands of people remain without power or air-conditioning this morning. let's go to meteorologist derek van dam. let's talk about the cooling, primarily through the lane of when are we going to see some? >> well, if you're in dallas or oklahoma city or little rock this morning, today is your day. you're living it in realtime. but like a puff of smoke in the wind, it's gone. just like that, the below average temperatures evaporate literally before your eyes and get replaced with a rlot of oranges and reds, we all know what that means, above average temperatures. enjoy it while you can. dallas 94, oklahoma city, 87. you're below your average high. it's the middle of july so it's
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still warm. as long as this very stubborn heat dome is firmly entrenched across the deep south and southwest, we will continue to talk about the record breaking temperatures. 100 million americans under some sort of heat alert stretching from florida all the way to the southwest. look at the triple digit heat from vegas to bakersfield, palm springs and death valley and phoenix, you continue with your record breaking streak with temperatures above 110, and this extended forecast well into next week calls for above average temperatures. look where it builds across the upper plains and portions of the midwest. transitioning to those storms. check out what happened across middle tennessee yesterday. trees knocked down. we had power lines snapped like twigs, and that is amongst several dozen reports of wind that just create d a swath of damage. we have another line of thunderstorms that continues to roll through. we have a thunderstorm watch across northeastern oklahoma. but focusing in on what's happening right now throughout memphis and southwestern
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tennessee, we have a flood warning in place and there's our flood threat for today, can't mention -- forget to mention the northeast, of course they've been dealing with heavy rain the past couple of weeks. more chances of flash flooding across vermont, new hampshire today. >> i feel like we pulled a sliver of good news out of you at the beginning. >> i appreciate that. >> it never ends. thanks, derek. >> pleasure. americans from coast to coast, they're now bracing for barbinheimer mania this weekend. >> this is the best day ever. >> it is the best day ever. and so was yesterday. and so is tomorrow and every day from now until forever. >> principle among them, phil mattingly. >> we're bracing for -- you're bracing for the heat and storms. now we're bracing for barbinheimer. >> these two potential blockbusters hit the box office today, barbie and oppenheimer. analysts predict they could rake in more than $200 million.
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that could make it the highest grossing weekend of the year. cnn's jason carroll is live outside of a movie theater here in new york city. jason, there's a lot of hype around bar binheimer and the return to theaters after years of covid, people are really itching to go back it seems like. >> reporter: absolutely. a lot of hype, and also a lot of hope. a lot of hope that these two films can do something to help an industry that's really, really been ailing. the only question that a lot of fans that we've been talking to are having is which one to see first. >> reporter: probably not much of a surprise when one hears something odd has come out of hollywood, but now there's this. >> the world will remember this day. >> that's not a clip from a real movie. it's a fan driven mashup of two, and it's the answer to anyone
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out there trying to figure out what to do when two potentially blockbuster films open on the same day. barbie -- >> hi, barbie. >> hi, barbie. >> hey, barbie. >> and oppenheimer, the internet answer is to see both. barbinheimer. >> i saw barbie in the morning. i saw oppenheimer in the afternoon. >> how did that go? >> it was the right way to do. >> i think you see barbie s afterwards as well. >> a barbie chaser. >> there are tiktoks, tweets and t-shirts, even a barbinheimer wikipedia page promoting a viral marketing phenomenon pushing movie goers to try both. >> so i see you've got your barbie pink on, so the question is will you see barbie and oppenheimer or just one? >> oh, yeah, both. >> both. >> we kind of like the idea of walking into oppenheimer with full pink, so. >> it's the barbinheimer experience. >> both films are worlds apart. >> do you guys ever think
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about -- >> on the one hand you have director greta gerwig's fantasy comedy about a doll experiencing an existential crisis and has to go to the real twworld to resol it. the company behind it warner brothers discovery, parent company of cnn. >> it's happening, isn't it? >> and on the other, you have christopher nolan's biographical thriller for universal about a physicist credited for creating -- well, you know. >> i'll be going to see barbie 100%. i can't wait to see it. i think it's great for the industry and audiences that we have two amazing films by amazing filmmakers coming out the same day. >> it's the perfect double build. i think start your day with barbie, then go to oppenheimer and a barbie chaser. >> could a double feature about a plastic boll and atomic bomb breathe life back into a movie industry, and now actors and writers on strike.
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>> i think this is the best thing that's happened to movie theaters in a really long time because it's happening really organically. >> reporter: also according to variety, amc has reported $40,000 in ticket sales so far. the big test is going to be whether or not fans do a one and done, in other words see these films once or will there be repeat viewing. if that's the case, that's the real test of a blockbuster and of course how well these films do on the international market. that remains to be seen. so far bar binheimer off to a pretty good start. >> i don't know about these repeat double features. that seems like quite the commitment. someone out there is going to do it. i promise you. jason, thank you n. the white house is announcing a major agreement with tech companies as concerns rise over the dangers of artificial intelligence. that's coming up. and breaking overnight, russia continuing its attacks on
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vice president kamala harris adding a last minute trip to jacksonville, florida, to her itinerary today, it's in direct response to the state's newly approved standards for teaching black history. one of the new requirements for middle school students is to include how slaves developed skills which in some instances could be applied for their personal benefit. harris condemned the new curriculum on thursday. let's listen. >> just yesterday in the state of florida they decided middle school students will be taught that enslaved people benefitted from slavery. they insult us in an attempt to gaslight us and we will not stand for it. >> joining us now is cnn chief political correspondent and host of "inside politics weekday," the one and only dana bash.
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we're going to get to -- i'm noticing some pink that may be thema thematic. i do want to start with the vice president's trip. she did it in tennessee with the tennessee three lawmakers, doing it again here. what do you make of this both i think broadly for the vice president and on this issue specifically? >> you both know because you are excellent reporters, that there is a very deliberate effort that has been going on inside the white house to make sure that there are moments, to find moments for the vice president to shine and to make an impact and to stand out when it comes to the -- just the pure politics going forward in the 2024 campaign. and it is incredibly agile and spur of the moment to be able to turn on a dime and get the -- all of the mechanics of the vice
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presidency up and running and get her down to florida to make a speech, but it is true that this was one of the -- i mean, you could just hear it in the soundbite that you played. you could hear the passion understandably and the anger and whether it's this issue, which unquestionably she's going to continue on or the issue of abortion rights, which is one that she's already been deployed on and has for more than a year seasons the dobbs decision. these are the moments that the white house is genuinely trying to find for her to help her find her footing in some ways but also to be the asset that they need her to be in the 2024 cam pane. >> yeah, i think that's exactly ri right, and on top of that, there's also the added need for them to start pivoting to the republican field here. this is really also about ron
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desantis, and these culture war kind of laws that he has supported in his state of florida, he also doubled down yesterday on bud light saying that he would basically use the state's pension funds to try to put more pressure on bud light over their use on a trans influencer in an ad campaign. ron desantis is starting to get much more spotlight on some of these things that used to be centered on florida but are now becoming national issues and are controversial for real reasons, just like the school, african american teaching requirements. >> yeah, i mean, and if you sort of take it up a level and just look at it philosophically, what we're used to with regard to republican ideology, it is still fascinating to me that you have a very prominent governor, obviously somebody who wants to be president of the united states, who continues to use the
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levers of government to impose ideology and philosophy that he believes is important and that he believes will be sort of vote generating and illuminating and exciting for republican voters. you have that and then you have other candidates in the race who say, you know what? this is not where republicans should be. the libertarians saying you shouldn't use the government to push what you want to do. you should bring government out and kind of live and let live. there are really different points of view from within the republican party. >> can i ask you just because you know you have a ton of reporting on this always. the most fascinating relationship in washington in my view, at least personally is the former president and the current speaker of the house. there's some reporting yesterday about what mccarthy may or may not have committed to do related
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to expunges impeachments. our amazing hill team went and talked to republicans yesterday, mike lawleon't really see the purpe. andy harris, i'm concentrating on appropriations. chip roy, this is a new body so i'd sard. tim burchett, i don't care about that, it doesn't amount to anything. that is a wide array of the ideological sides of that republican conference. which makes me more interested in the dynamic between mccarthy and trump, behind the scenes, how it works, how transactional it is, what's your sense of things? >> transactional is the perfect word. first of all, that is fascinating. i haven't seen it set up like that. mike lawler, he's one of the more moderate members. he helped republicans get the majority bng elected from new york and then of course you have among the most conservative on the right there, and that tells you everything you need to know. they don't want to deal with what happened in the past, even those who are among the most
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fervent of supporters of donald trump, maybe the most fervent are like, okay, let's do this pau because it will make him happy. for the most part no. there's so many reasons why thigh don't want to do it, not the least of which it doesn't do anything. you can't -- you both know this, you can't expunge an impeachment. it would just be effectively a sense of congress, which would be putting everybody on record with their opinion about what happened, and you're putting the moderates in a tough position. and so that's a long way of answering your question, which is that kevin mccarthy has from the beginning of trump and trumpism had a very complicated relationship with him because certainly when donald trump was president, he needed him very badly. when kevin mccarthy was the min mi minority leader and needed him even more when he was in that 15 vote race to become the speaker
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of the house, and he has continued to embrace donald trump, and they have very much a classic symbiotic relationship, and at this point, probably it seems as though mccarthy might need trump even more than the reverse, and that is pretty evident in our reporting about these conversations that they're having. >> we'll say it a little louder for the people in the back, expungement is not a thing. it's not a thing. >> it is not a thing. >> we can go down the procedural rabbit hole if you want, nobody in the control room is. >> dana, before you go, though. are you going to see barbie tonight? are you heading to the theaters? >> show the nails. >> does it look like i'm going to see barbie? can you see? right? i'm so excited for barbie. i might have to change before "inside politics." i may or may not have spilled something while eating in the car on the way here. don't worry, i have other pink dresses here because i was worried about that, and i wanted to make sure -- >> you told us that during the
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break, and we weren't going to bring it. you're just going to do it yourself j i need to be prepared to be full barbie all day. >> we know you're always going to be there for barbie. thank you so much for being here for us. >> great to see you both. >> watch dana today on "inside politics" at noon eastern time. you don't of want to miss that show. >> maybe a new pink dress. coming up, record heat from california to florida, some areas are seeing the highest hospitalization rates since the pandemic. we'll talk to a doctor in phoenix about just how b bad its next. and it was easy. (soft music) - [f[female narrator] five billion people lack access to safe surgery. thousands of children are suffering and dying from treatable causes. for 40 years, mercy shiphas deployed floating hospitals
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this record extreme heat that is plaguing most of the country just won't let up. roughly 100 million people now are under heat advisories nationwide and the national oceanic and atmospheric administration reports the nearly 2,000 record high temperatures have already been broken so far this month. that includes phoenix where it's expected to hit triple digits again. the city has been setting records since monday. maricopa county officials report at least 18 heat associated deaths to date with nearly 70 more under investigation. now, doctors are saying that they're seeing the highest increase of patients since the pandemic. joining us now is one of those
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doctors. dr. michael white. thank you for joining us. you say you've never seen numbers like this since the covid pandemic. what is the current situation right now at your hospital? >> you know, certainly throughout maricopa county, throughout phoenix with the extreme heat, we're seeing a number of individuals that are presenting to our emergency departments, you know, with heat-related illnesses, and this is a significant volume of patients coming in with these particular issues affecting, you know, all portions of their body, complicating other medical problems and just more and more people seeking medical care to the point that we are seeing volumes approaching what we did during the last wave of the pandemic. >> who's most at risk in this moment with this type of heat? >> certainly we see ththat are most at risk thadon't have access to be able too into environments where they get cooled. those folks that are unsheltered
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or homeless are at higher risk because they don't have that access to be able to get cooled. also those folks that tend to have to work outside, so some of our construction workers, those folks that are working out in that environment on a daily basis certainly at risk, and then we always worry about those that have underlying medical conditions. those that are very young, that are very old or have other medical problems such as obesity, diabetes, all of these that can be compounded by heat in these just extreme temperatures that we've been facing. >> the high in phoenix today i'm told is going to be 115 degrees. it's already 90 degrees right now at 4:00 in the morning. one of the interesting things, it sounds like people are coming in with actual contact burns like they're touching something and burning themselves. what are you seeing as it relates to that. >> we here at valley wise health, one of the largest burn centers in the united states. what we see is with all of the
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concrete, all of the materials that, you know, we use for construction for our daily lives gets super heated by the sun, when temperatures reach these 115, 120 degrees, all of that heat is concentrated in these substances that are in direct sunlight. so if for some reason somebody's out, they have some propensity to fall, either they trip and pass out and were to land on this concrete and have exposed skin, what occurs is that exposed skin that comes in contact with that searing hot material and they develop contact burns. so those patients are presenting here as well. not only into our emergency department, but we're taking those folks from other emergency departments across the region so they're able to receive the specialized care. >> that's fascinating but also rather scary, dr. michael white, thank you for your time. >> thank you this morning. all right, shark week is
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it's why my two oldest boys won't talk to me. shark week is back. that's all they care about. the 35th edition of the summer spectacle kicks off this sunday
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and features a week long celebration of one of the most feared and misunderstood creatures on the planet. our next guest nearly lost his life in a shark attack in 2009. now he's an advocate for conservation. paul de gelder traveled to the shark bite capital of the world for a special project. here's a preview, florida shark, blood in the water. >> with decreased visibility, the bull sharks instantly become bolder and start to approach in numbers. >> that's paul de gelder right
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there and i have a lot of questions for him about a lot of things. >> i have a lot of questions. >> but i want to start with you lost a leg, part of your arm, nearly your life in a shark attack. conservation has now become your thing, you've become such a critical player on this issue, why? >> tibz as a transfer of my military service as an army para trooper and navy clearance diver my role is to stand up and protect people who can't stand up and protect themselves. now i see my role as speaking up for an animal that doesn't have a voice, but i have a great platform. i have a message, and i figure if someone like me who has nearly lost their life, lost two limbs to a shark can understand why they're so important and why they need to be saved, then maybe everyone else should be able to as well. >> i don't know that i would ever go back into the water again after something like that happened. what are we misunderstanding?
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are sharks misunderstood? >> absolutely. a i think a lot of people throughout the years, shark week has been going on for 35 years now. i think a lot of people have come over to our side of the fence, but there's still some misconceptions that people think these are monsters lurking in the ocean that are going to eat your children. they're just sharks living in their homes doing sharky stuff and we just love going into the ocean. it's fun, it's relaxing, we can have a great time, but we also need to understand that that is where they live. that is where they hunt, and we as the most intelligent species on the planet, maybe we need to look to ourselves to understand that we need to take actions into our own hands to make sure we stay safe and also we protect the ecosystem. >> get out of their homes maybe. >> we don't need to get out of their homes. it was the one time i hated sharks when i got attack and now i work with them all the time. >> can you tell us your story.
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>> >> i was in a branch of the navy called clearance divers. it's an awesome job. i was doing a counterterrorism exercise in sydney harbor by the big navy base we have there. i was swimming from point a to point b on the surface on my back and a 10 foot bull shark came up from underneath me and grabbed me by the back of my right leg and my right hand, which was by my side all in the same bite. i beep occasionally. and it took me under and it just -- the pain and the terror. i thought i was going to die. it removed my hamstring in my hand, and i had to swim back to my safety boat with one hand and one leg through a pool of my own blood. did not think i was going to make it, but my teammates were there and their medical training kicked in. they kept me alive until the paramedics arrived and i was whisked off to emergency surgery. so very, very lucky and blessed to actually still be here
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breathing today. >> not only did you make it, but you kept your love of the ocean and appreciation for sharks which i think we're all benefitting from now. paul de gelder, thank you so much for being with us. >> and you can catch florida shark blood in the water on wednesday at 9:00 p.m. eastern time. and up next, a u.s. soldier who crossed into north korea, he's now officially considered awol. plus, escalating tensions between the united states and two rivals are prompting the united states to boost its m military presence overseas. john kirby from the white house joins us next. the google cybersecurity certificate was made to o fill that gap and help grow the workforce that's keeping us all safe. why do dermatologists choose dove? the dove beauty bar, is gentle. it not only cleans, it hydrates my skin. as a dermatologist, i nt what's best for our skin. with 1/4 moisturizing cream, dove is the #1 bar dermatologists use at me.
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announcing a major agreement with some of the world's leading artificial intelligence companies. some are committing to putting new a.i. systems through outside testing before they are publicly released. they will be at the white house later today and the administration says this will help move towards a safe, secure and transparent development of a.i. technology. john kirby, the national white house security council spokesman, good to see you. i know you guys have been working on this issue and all that comes with it for months behind the scenes, probably even longer. significant commitments from the biggest players in this space, but there is no enforcement mechanism here, which i understand from an executive branch perspective, does that concern you about the act for these companies to deliver on the commitments? >> the president, he is committed to working with congress and made it clear he will work with congress.
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in fact, to pursue perhaps an executive order that with help us get towards legislation that will give this -- these commitments and our hold bad actors accountable a lot more teeth. so this is a good step. it's not the first step we have taken, as you midnpoint the out. that doesn't mean the president doesn't want to work with congress on enforceable legislation to help us hold people accountable for proper behavior in the a.i. ecosystem. >> much more to come on this. it's been while since we talked. i have been away from the white house a little bit. i have like 15 questions around the globe i would ask to ask you about. the cia director yesterday, related to a potential false flag operation in the black sea, he said there were concerning signs russia is considering it. i know this is a tactic they
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considered throughout the war. concerning signs. is he talking about something that you guys are seeing? do you feel this is imminent? >> we do have information that the russians are potentially going to try to attack ships, civilian ships in the black sea that could be used for carrying grain out of ukraine. and we -- the information that we have, phil, is that they could use sea mines and they could also use more kinetic attacks with, say, unmanned surface vehicles to attack ships at sea, and we have already seen them post a video of them detecting and detonating what they are claim wag as a ukrainian mine. >> this is a classic russia propaganda, classic opportunity by them to plant a false flag to justify, which of course there would not be any justification, justify military action against civilian shipping. >> there are u.s. companies, international companies that have commercial shipping assets in that space.
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is the white house, is the administration working with those companies for the safety of their commercial ships? >> we are certainly doing everything we can to make sure that the civilian shipping companies certainly u.s. flagged understand the risks here now of sailing in the black sea because it is very clear that the russians -- we have to assume they have every intention of conducting some sort of attack on civilian shipping. we are, obviously, working with industry and so are our allies and partners so that everybody understands the risks. >> a u.s. soldier has been declared awol, crossed the border into north korea, was detained. i know there hadn't been any communication from the u.s. side. has that changed? do we have any idea where he may be or what his condition is? >> sadly, no. not for lack of trying. we are still reaching out and doing the best we can.
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but sadly, no, we don't have an update on private king. we are not going to stop. we want to get him home to his family, home to the united states where he belongs, but we are just not coming into any significant information right now about him. >> also in north korea, a u.s. nuclear submarine arrived in south korea this week, first time since the 1980s. you guys talked about it. north korea's defense minister responded essentially saying the deployment may fall under their terms of use of nuclear force. do you believe that threat is real? >> we have to take it seriously. i mean, you know, this -- this is a country that continues to develop nuclear arsenal, continues to develop ballistic missiles that have ever increasing range. so we don't take those comments lightly. that's why we are, a, made it clear to pyongyang, are willing to sit down without conditions to denuclearize the peninsula and make sure we have sufficient
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military capability to protect ourselves and 38,000 u.s. troops and families on the korean peninsula. >> i have been -- it's been strike to go see the deployment of u.s. military assets in the middle east over the last week or so. fighter jets. you have i believe correctly a guided-missile destroyer. a marine unit sent over there because of iran's actions in attempting to seize ships and their maritime actions. my question is, is this in response to what is already happened or are you seeing information, do you have information that more seizure attempts are planned or is this could escalate? this is a serious move, u.s. assets. >> its actually an attempt to de-escalate by making sure we have an appropriate amount -- we have a lot of military force there, but more military force to protect in this case hair time shepg. to the first question, it's a
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response to the increase we have seen over recent weeks of iranian attempted or successful attacks on maritime ships in the gulf region. to make sure that we have appropriate military capabilities in the gulf trooej region. if we have to change that posture, given future tendencies by the iranian regime, we will dohat, too, do you feel that is considered enough for the moment? >> we are looking at it every day. right now we can speak to the deployments we have ordered. i don't know of future deployments in the offing. if we have to adjust, we absolutely will. hopefully, that won't be the case. we can't take it for granted iran is going to all of a sudden turn over a new leaf and agent as a responsible nation. we have to make sure we have the sufficient resources and capabilities at hand to thwart
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any of their security threats there in the region and beyond. >> john kirby, appreciate your time. thanks. >> you bet. and ahead, more on the news, russian weaponizing hunger, attacking ukraine's southern ports and destroying tons of grain. and 27 years later are investigators closing in object tupac's killer? the ramped up investigation coming up next.
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