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we have a date. the judge presiding over donald trump's classified documents case scheduling the trial. so when can we expect the former president in court, and how does that impact the 2024 race? an american icon dead at 96. music fans everywhere celebrating the life and mourning the loss of tony bennett. his unmistakable voice tra transcended generations, and the tributes are pouring in. we'll take a closer look at bennett's lasting legacy. and a stark warning from the nation's top spy. the sigh chief thinks the kremlin could be plotting a false flag operation in the black sea as russian missiles continue to target ukraine's largest port. we're following these major developing stories and many more all coming in right here to "cnn news central." a trial date is set squarely
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in the middle of the 2024 political calendar. a case of former president donald trump's handling of classified documents, today a federal judge ordering the trial start in may of next year. a pretrial hearing is scheduled for may 14th, and then the trial kicks off later in the month. judge eileen cannon rejected the special counsel's request for a faster paced timeline. >> she sure did. and jack smith, he wanted this trial to start in mid-december, much sooner, but cannon also rebuffed trump's legal team's request to delay scheduling a trial date until after the 2024 election, assuming this, of course, doesn't push until after that anyways. remember, trump is facing a total of 37 felony counts in the classified documents case. 31 of counts are for willful retention of national defense information. he's also charged along with aide waltz nauta with conspiring to obstruct justice and making false statements. with us now is cnn senior crime
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and justice reporter katelyn polantz and political reporter for axios stef kite. how did the judge settle on this tate? what we should note is yes, it's smack dab in the middle of the political calendar, but it's as primaries wrap up and we should have a sense of who the nominees are. >> judges are going to do what judges want to do. she had the two ask, the justice department wanting the end of december and trump wantiing not to put a date on the calendar, to kick this past the entirety of the general election next year. judge cannon, she's saying that she doesn't want to do that because she wants to manage this proceeding. so she essentially backs the whole way back from may into now, and she sets up 33 different points where there are deadlines, hearings, there's all kinds of process that has to take place, arguments, all kinds of things working through the classified records that get you to that late may trial date. now, that date in court like
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most dates in court is not set in stone. it totally could move. trial dates do move. but this starts you at a point where you can see this busy calendar for donald trump starting with the -- in october he has a trial in a civil lawsuit out of new york. and then in january, he's in trial three times now, in january, in trial with e. jean carroll in that lawsuit, and then there's his first criminal trial set for march in new york in manhattan related to hush-money payments, and then this. that's a lot of time to have to spend in court. also at the time this stuff is going, and the trump team, they do believe according to elaine atrine, reporting the trump team thinks they can kick this longer than may of next year. >> there is the potential if not likelihood of numerous pretrial motions that could kick the can down the road. if it does start in may, what would it mean politically for donald trump? >> again, this is coming right
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after super tuesday, and there's a real possibility that donald trump could be the republican nominee for president. who is having to leave the campaign trail to face serious federal charges. so in some ways that's handing joe biden an easy target for trump. but on the other hand, when it comes to trump, it's always unclear how these kinds of things will play with the national public, how it will play with republicans. and we've seen so far that when he's been indicted on these charges, he actually sees a bump in the polls. so i'll be watching to see whether that changes. in some cases, you know, we already know what these charges are. voters already know what these charges are. they've seen the indictment. they've seen the photographs of the classified documents in the bathroom. and so you know, it will be interesting to see whether actually seeing a trial take place will sway some key voters who are already locked in for trump. >> because let's talk politically about what it would mean. as you mentioned, if he were to
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be the republican nominee and the trial is looming, he can plug that rights into his sort of victim, grievance narrative and say, look, here, i have this momentum, i'm cruising toward the nomination, and they stick me with this. >> exactly. not only does he have a very supportive base who are going to back him no matter what, for years now trump and his allies and conservatives across the board have been building this narrative of corruption of a department of justice, of bias against trump and against conservatives. it started in 2015 and 2016. we've seen house republicans continue this narrative with their own investigations into the fbi, into the department of justice. it's something that at least their base and a certain segment of republicans are buying. and we see it the way trump handles these indictments. he teases it before anything happens, letting his base know what's coming. and again, pointing to this narrative he's been sowing for a long time, that he is the target
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of political actors at the department of justice. so i think we will certainly see him play that card over and over again. >> do you think there's the potential for some of these other republicans who have been backing trump so far to start getting desperate as we get deeper into the primary seen and perhaps changing -- season and perhaps changing their tone in legal battles? >> i think you'll see different camps on that. there are some backing trump no matter what. you know, you look at jim jordan in the house who has again and again pointed to the bias of the fbi. talking about earlier. we'll see how especially republican candidates vying for the presidential nomination play this. you know, i spoke to some campaign sources recently who almost seem frustrated that the timing is after super tuesday and are trying to figure out how do they convince the american public that it's not worth their time to back trump, that republicans should instead find someone who is not facing trial in the middle of a campaign season. >> all right. we want to bring in harry litman, former u.s. attorney and
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deputy assistant attorney general. what do you think about this date, harry? >> you know, i think it's playing as kind of a compromise, and in particular there's a notion that doj dodged a bullet by their not taking trump's position of making it after the election. i don't think that bullet was ever real. so look, there are complications here, but she's i think given him about as much leeway as she could reasonably have. it's almost a year out of the box from the indictment. and there's many opportunities t that will come especially in the classified procedure realm. i'm sure the trump team is planning on it. we are by no means looking at an assured trial at the date that she has set. >> harry, i want to play a clip from an interview trump did with iowa radio station earlier this week. listen to this.
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>> i thinkt's a very dangerous thing to even talk about. because we have a tremendously passionate group of voters, and i mean maybeyou know, maybe 100, 150, i've never seen anything like it. much more passion than they had in 2020, and much more passion than they in 2016. i think it would be dangerous. >> trump is saying it would be very dangerous if he were imprisoned. do you think those comments could be used against him? >> look, they ought to be, and there's no indication so far at least since january 6th that people have been rushing to the barricades when he's asked it. but think about the comments themselves. it's such a palpable way of putting himself above the country. part of his sort of messianic complex, if you do there to me the country will revolt, and it will be dangerous. that is quite a threat even
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implicit for him to now launch. >> he also had an interview with the right-wing channel news max and was questioning the timing of a potential indictment by the special counsel probing the election interference. here's what he said -- >> i hear they want to indict me in this one. why didn't they do it two years ago? why didn't they do it like when it would have been timely? but there is no timely. they did it because it's election interference. they did it right in the middle of my campaign. >> part of the reason this has taken so long is because of how long trump took in not turning over documents. what do you think of what he's saying there? no, sorry -- back to the election -- there is on the election interference. what do you make about that? on the election interference one? you know, we saw the january 6th
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committee doing what they were doing, and then we saw them turn over things obviously to doj, but that took time. there has been criticism of that. what do you think about it? >> there has been that ooner criticism. my basic view on it is some of it warranted a certain period, some of it is understandable for the biggest case doj ever has had. and jack smith is now surely going into overdrive, and i think we're going to see that indictment very soon. it was always going to take a while for this, the most important prosecution in the history of justice, to come to market and be sure they had it stitched up. so it would have been impossible i think for it to be done a council years ago. so we would all always have been looking at some kind of falling in an election season. >> we have to leave the conversation there. we appreciate you sharing your perspective with us. >> thank you. >> of course. we're also following other
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big breaking news today. the death of a cultural icon. the legendary crooner tony bennett. he passed away this morning at the age of 96 after an incredible career that spanned eight decades. his first of 19 grammys came from his unforgettable hits. ♪ i left my heart ♪ [ cheers ] ♪ in san francisco ♪ >> you heard that voice and you knew who it was. bennett's singular voice transcending generations. he wowed bob hope and frank sinatra. he performed live on mtv. recorded two albums of duets with lady gaga. they were fantastic. she also performed with bennett in his last concert at new york's radio city music hall.
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cnn's anderson cooper reported on it. here's anderson cooper. >> how you doing? nice to see you. >> okay. >> tony has a hard time holding a conversation. his alzheimer's has progressed. how do you feel about the concert the other night? >> i don't know what you mean. >> i saw you at radio city. but a great job. >> oh, thank you very much. >> so you have to adjust to that and realize that, you know, tony's not going to be able to tell his own story in his own words. ♪ for the first time in my life i find i have the time of my life ♪ >> anderson cooper joins us now live. anderson, as you reflect on bennett's life and legacy and the conversations you were able to have with him, what strikes you the most? >> reporter: i mean, it's certainly a sad day and a sad day for his incredible wife, susan, susan benedetto, who has loved tony bennett from the time
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she was a little girl and was his caregiver in these last difficult years. and his son danny, his manager, who helped reintroduce him along with susan to whole new generations of pemover the last decades. time and time again, you know, setting him up with some of the other greatest performers of our time, lady gaga, you know, a whole bunch of different people he did duets with. it's a sad day and extraordinary day to reflect on this beautiful man's life. a career that spanned some 70 years. most careers in music can be counted, you know, on the fingers on one land in terms. how long they left. the range of songs he could do. but his ability, as he would say, to tell a story in a song. and like you said, you heard that voice and you knew who he was. and even as the voice changed over the years and even as
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alzheimer's ravaged his mind, he still -- those songs were deep in his heart and deep in his head. no matter what else was going on in his head, he remembered those songs. when that music started to play, it just kicked in, and you would literally see him straighten up and, you know, jog to the piano and just -- his longtime accompanist wouldn't say we're playing -- we're going to be seeing "i left my heart." he would play a few keys and tony knew instantly. even in the final years of his life, he knew the entire american songbook. and he could just do it. i watched -- i had -- i was shooting the story for "60 minutes" in the preparation for the lady gaga, the three nights at radio city music hall that they had together. i got to stand at the piano in susan and tony's apartment overlooking the park, watching
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him rehearse for an hour, standing up, no sheet music, no prompts, nothing, justice his piano player tickling the ivories, and tony knew every song. it was just -- i mean, it was one of the great experiences of my life to do that. i literally was crying while listening to him because i had just interviewed him, and he clearly didn't know who i was even though, you know, susan said, this is anderson from "60 minutes." while he was singing, he was lookiing right at me, and there was recognition in his eyes. and there was -- i realized he still doesn't know who i am, but he knows he's tony bennett and one of the great performers of our time, and he was performing to me like he would to an audience and making me feel like he knew who i was. it was just an extraordinary thing to witness and a great honor. >> it's amazing. i think one of the amazing things, too, about tony bennett
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other than that singular voice is how he was really on the right side of history in so many ways. you know, he was active in the civil rights movement. and when he was in the army, he was actually demoted because he ate with a black soldier during world war ii before integration of the armed services are coming up ex-next week, the 75th anniversary of the integration of the armed services. that's something else that i think people are learning if they didn't know before. >> reporter: listen, tony bennett born in queens, i think in long island city, his dad had come from italy. his mom was of italian descent but born in new york. his mom was a seamstress. worked extra hours in order to provide for the family. tony could have grown up with a very small mind frame and a very rigid way of looking at his life and the life of other people. and yet, that's not what he was.
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he had a very broad view of who his brothers and sisters were. and at a time when a lot of people didn't -- he fought in world war ii, he saw combat, he was parts of the liberation of the sub camp at dachau which people don't know about. he saw and knew the horrors of war, back to you w-- knew what human beings are capable of doing to each other. this wasn't just a time taking part in the civil rights movement meant, you know, tweeting something, he -- he marched from selma to montgomery, alabama, 1965, and that was a very, very tough year. he performed at a concert in montgomery in 1965, and i recently read that the lady, the african american lady who drove him from the concert to the airport dropped him off at the airport, she -- she was murdered later that day by the kkk. so he was in the very belly of the beast, and he put himself in
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that situation in order to stand next to sammy davis jr. and harry belafonte, and others performing, as well. so yeah, he was very liberal and yet his audiences of any political persuasion loved him because -- use couldn't help but love tony bennett. even people who wanted not to like him would say he's -- he's just this -- a wonderful person to be around. >> tony bennett, an american icon, an incredible life. leaving us at 96. anderson cooper, thank you so much for sharing those person moments that you spent with him. >> reporter: my pleasure. >> of course. we want to stop for a moment and take you live to the white house where president biden is speaking out on artificial intelligence. he met with executives from seven of the largest tech companies today. they've made a pledge to make a.i. systems safer. let's listen. >> last october we introduced the first of its kind a.i. bill
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of rights. if february i signed an executive order to protect the public from algorithms that discriminate. in may we unveiled a new strategy to establish seven new a.i. research institutes to help drive breakthroughs in responsible a.i. intervention. today i'm pleased to announce that these seven companies have agreed to voluntary commitments for responsible innovation. these commitments which the companies will implement immediately underscore three fundamental principles -- safety, security, and trust. first, the companies have an obligation to make sure their technology is safe before releasing it to the public. that means testing the capabilities of the systems, assessing their potential risks, and making the results of these assessments public. second, companies must prioritize the security of their systems by safeguarding their models against cyber threats and managing the risk to our
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national security and sharing the best practices and industry standards that are necessary. third, the company vs. a duty to earn the people's trust and empower ourselves to make informed decisions labeling content that has been altered or a.i. generated. rooting out bias and discrimination, strengthening privacy protection, and shielding children from harm. and finally, companies have agreed to find ways for a.i. to help meet society's greatest challenges, from cancer to climate change and invest in education and new jobs to help students and workers prosper from opportunities, there are enormous opportunities of a.i. these commitments are real, and they're concrete. they're going to help fulfill the obligation to americans to develop safe, secure, and trustworthy technologies that benefit society and uphold our values and our shared values. let me close with this -- we'll see more technology change in
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the next ten years or even in the next few years than we've seen in the last 50 years. that has been an astounding revelation to me, quite frankly. artificial intelligence is going to transform the lives of people around the world. the group here will be critical in shepherding that innovation with responsibility and safety by design to earn the trust of americans. and quite frankly, as i met with world leaders, all our -- all the g7 folks the same thing. social media has shown us the harm that powerful technology can do without the right safeguards in place. and i've said at the "state of the union" that congress needs to pass bipartisan legislation, impose strict limits on personal data collection, ban targeted advertisements to kids, require companies to put health and safety first. but we must be clear eyed and vigilant about the threats mergesing -- of emerging technologies that can pose, doesn't have to, but can pose to
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our democracy and our values. americans are seeing how advanced artificial intelligence and the pace of innovation have the power to disrupt jobs and industries. these commitments are a promising step, but we have a lot more work to do together. realizing the promise of a.i. while managing the risk is going to require some new laws, regulations, and oversight. in the weeks ahead, i'm going to continue to take executive action and help america lead the way toward responsible innovation. and we're going to work with both parties to develop appropriately legislation. i'm pleased that leader schumer and leader jeffries and others in the congress are making this a top bipartisan priority. as we advance the agenda here at home, we'll lead the work -- lead work with our allies and partners on a common international framework to govern the development of a.i. i think these leaders -- i thank these leaders in the room with me with today and their
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partnership and their commitments that they're making. this is a serious responsibility. we have to get it right. and there's enormous potential upside, as well. i want to thank you all, and they're about to go down in a meeting which i'll catch up with them later. thank you, thank you, thank you. >> mr. president, can you tell us about the hacking of cabinet officials by china and the threshold of concern you have about that, sir? >> all right. he answered a question there about the hacking. i'm not sure if you could make out his answer. >> i was not. >> he was facing away. that's obviously serious what has been going on, widespread hacking, affecting government agencies. we're going to try to revisit that here in a moment. there are, though, right now disturbing new warnings from the cia, and that is that russia may be plotting a false flag attack in a critical shipping corridor
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ships in that vital corridor while blaming it on ukraine. let's take you now live to kyiv and cnn's alex marquardt. what are you hearing? >> reporter: boris, this was days of very intense attacks against odesa and the surrounding region. we were up throughout the course of the evening in odesa itself waiting to see whether russia would carry out a fourth day of strikes with drones and missiles. that strike today coming in the morning hours, some seven cruise missiles of different kinds attacking an infrastructure facility not in odesa itself where the biggest port is, but in the odesa region. striking that facility, ukrainian officials say, and destroying around 120 tons of peas and barley. it is just a continuation according to ukraine of these strikes against grain facilities, ports, all different kinds of infrastructure that ukraine uses to get food out of
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country. this is an attack, ukrainian officials say, not just on ukraine's economy but on food supply for countries all around the world. and ukraine does believe that this is directly connected to russia pulling out of this grain deal, essentially russia had said that the gabe grain deal in place the past year was one sided, and they were no longer reaping the benefits of it. they pulled out. and now they are exacting a price on ukraine. we are seeing -- we are hearing from the russian side that they pulled out of the deal in response to the ukrainian attack on that bridge that connects russia with crimea. but there is a significant question now of what happens next. russia has said that ships traversing the black sea, sailing through the black sea toward ukraine, could be seen as military targets. and that has led the u.s. to warn that russia may be setting the scene for a false flag
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operation. here's what the cia director had to say -- >> we see some very concerning signs of the russians considering the kind of false flag operations that we highlighted in the run-up to the war, as well. in other words, looking at ways in which they might make attacks against shipping and the black sea and then blaming it -- trying to blame it on the ukrainians. >> reporter: burns pointing out there, boris, that in the past, in the lead up to the war the u.s. had declassified intelligence essentially to get ahead of potential attacks by russia, to warn the world that they might be coming perhaps to preempt russia and discourage them from carrying out these attacks. real stark warning from the biden administration. we have also heard just from president zelenskyy just moments ago. he says that there will be a response to these attacks by
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russia against the grain infrastructure, the attacks we've seen over the past few days, across the south of ukraine. boris? >> alex marquardt reporting live from kyiv. and brianna, this renewed focus on the black sea comes as the ukrainian counteroffensive has yet to produce the results many had been hoping for. >> yeah, that's why russia in parts is trying to clobber ukraine in the south. let's break this down with military analyst and retired air force colonel cedric leighton. thank you so much for taking us through this here. what is the strategy here with russia's southern bombardment? >> one of the big things is really the port of odesa. when you look at what is happening in odesa, major ports here, odesa, up here in m mikolaiv, they're critical for exporting grain. what russia is trying to do, notice they have everything in red, that's russian-occupied territory. all the coastlines here.
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they want to make this coastline right here completely unusable for ukraine. that's the russian strategy, to prevent this kind of thing from happening and to also make sure that this route right here doesn't work no matter what -- no matter what actually is done, that they actually can cut this whether or not there's a grain deal. >> yeah. in a way they're saying why would we be making things easier for russia? they're not re-upping this grain deal that allowed safe passage to turkey of that grain. and now with the u.s. warning of these potential false flag attacks, what do you make of the possibility of that? >> so false flag attacks are definitely possible. you look at just the way this which they've struck all of these different target areas. you see how precise the russians have been about going after these areas. they are really going after the food supply. going back on this one second, one thing to really note about this is the fact that right here, 36 million tons of grain
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was exported for the last year, july '22 to july of this year. that is about 4.5, almost 5% of all the grain in the world. when you look at that, that's a significant portion. and if that goes away, food prices rise, especially in parts of the world that are very vulnerable, very dependent on ukrainian grain. when that happens, then ukraine doesn't get money and people starve. >> yeah. and russia benefits. >> russia absolutely benefits. >> that's what they're zeroing in on. >> that's exactly right. so one of the things that they're doing, of course, is they're moving their forces into these areas. you see the russian maneuvers in this particular video right here, but these are the kinds of missiles that they're actually lobbing against ukrainian targets. russian naval cruise missiles. they can destroy very precisely areas on the coastal front right there. and we also have to remember, we have to take them seriously
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because there is what happened to our drone that was flying over the black sea, the same area that we're talking about right now. the russians came out after it with their fighters, and they made that drone inoperable by in essence going after it with what we call prop wash, in essence the jet blast from the plane. >> they want this to be very inhospitable area for sure, whether for surveillance or for ukrainian grain or ukrainian operations. i do want to play some sound from the u.s. cia director bill burns. here it is -- >> putin is trying to buy time as he considers what to do with wagner and prigozhin himself. putin in my experience, has the image that he's overreacting to things. he's trying to settle things. but i think what he's going to do is separate prigozhin to what's of value to putin and wa wagner. >> how does he do that do you
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think? what is the impact of that and the sensitivity to how he handles yevgeny prigozhin? >> image is extremely importance to putin as director mentioned. there's one aspects of this, you know, that closeness may very well mean that in some ways they're working together. but the key thing to really think about here is what this looks like on the battlefield. let's take the eastern front, if you will, of ukraine right now. bakhmut, this was the area right here where the wagner group had the most important role for the russians. in essence they were able, almost on their own, to capture bakhmut, took them ten months, but they were able to capture bakhmut for russia. that fact doesn't go unnoticed by anybody in russia or anywhere else. and so now waggier and prigozhin -- wagner and prigozhin have leverage because they're the only force that did this. russian regular forces are in there now.
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but if the wagner group goes away, a lot of these gains that the russians have along this front may potentially be at risk. so putin has to be very careful with how he handles this because he doesn't want to put his gains along this front and along the southern front at risk either. and that becomes a key element in everything that putin has to decide and that also means that prigozhin's fate is not sealed at the moment. >> he is walking a fine line. colonel, thank you so much as always for taking us through that. boris? the justice department now planning to take legal action against texas and its floating border barrier as lawmakers urge president biden to investigate what they call dangerous and cruel actions toward migrants by the governor, greg abbots. the eye-opening accusations when we come back on "cnn news central." ♪ it's our turn now we'll make it t up again. ♪ ♪ we'll build freelance teams with more agility. ♪
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now to a developing situation at the u.s.-mexico border. the justice department telling texas that it will file legal action against the placement of floating barriers in the rio grande river. this is in addition to the doj's ongoing assessment of mistreatment of migrants after several reports of that. cnn now has firsthand accounts from migrants claiming they were treated poorly at the border.
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two pregnant women telling cnn that they were denied water by texas national guard soldiers when they asked for it. democratic lawmakers are now asking president biden to investigate this. cnn's rosa flores is joining us now from the texas border town of eagle pass. so rosa, tell us what you can about these floating barriers that are there behind you. >> reporter: let me show you because if you take a look, they appear to be about the middle of the river. they're about four feet in diameter. they've got nets going down, and they're anchored to the bottom of this waterway. and according to the u.s. state department, the state of texas did not obtain permits before deploying these border barriers. and now a top diplomat in mexico has complained to the united states saying that this violates two treaties between the two countries, and mexico is worried that these buoys could actually be on mexican soil.
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now the u.s. doj sending a letter to the state of texas giving them notice of possible legal action if those buoys and related structures are not removed. now part of that letter says the following, quotes, if we do not receive a response by 2:00 p.m. eastern on july 24th, 2023, indicating your commitment to expeditiously remove the floating barrier and related structures, the united states intends to file legal action. this is the united states giving the state of texas a deadline of monday. now the property where i'm at right here is owned by the woman right here with me. and malal i, you were telling me that you have asked the state of texas to remove the wire that's right behind us, there's two layers on your property. mow frustrated are with you the state of texas? >> very, very frustrated. my husband and i believe that this is trespassing. the state of texas is
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trespassing on our property. and they continue to utilize our property, except they're making the migrants walk to the south end of our property, to our neighbors, then they'll bring them back on our property, use our property to take them up to the highway and process them. so they're still using our property, and they are tre tresp trespassing. >> reporter: the u.s. doj letter specifically states that the united states is concerned about humanitarian risks. what do you think those risks are of these structures that we're seeing on the border? >> it's what the -- the whistleblower said in his email complaining about first there's the buoys, and now -- if -- where we're at, i'm looking over, now i have to see people trying to cross and possibly drown. then try to get through the wire, get cut up, caught up, and there are -- there is c wire in the river where the river rose. and you can't see it. and it's just going to be
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something horrible to look at. and not only that, it's so hot out here, rosa, that i've seen people die on the land from heatstroke. now we have to see women, children, men, defenseless people, human beings. and the wire on top of that. >> reporter: you heard it from a property owner who has been here while all of this activity has been going on, has asked the state of texas to remove the concertina wire and the state of texas has refused to do so. the humanitarian risks are people dying. brianna? >> all right, rosa flores live for us in eagle pass, texas, with what is really becoming a bit of a standoff there between the state government. texas -- state government of texas and the federal government. boris? . >> reporter:'s governor, gretchen whitmer using an interesting tactic. she's leaning into the barbie craze and revealing her life in plastic. we have much more on governor
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right now it is barbie's world, and we are all just living in it. the movie "barbie" debuts today, and the buzz on the expected blockbuster is so enthralling the governor of michigan, gretchen whitmer, is indulging in pink power. she's been tweeting out images of a barbie version of her life. her staff naming this mini politician of plastic little gretch. >> hi, barbie. >> hi, barbie. >> hi, barbie. >> hi, barbie.
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>> hi, barbie. >> hi, barbie. >> mattel, the manufacturer that makes barbie, did not officially back this, but a rep told "the new york times" that it was, quote, so fun to know the governor is a fan. joining us is maddie kahn, she wrote "the new york times" piece on governor barbie. maddie also wrote the book "young and restless: the girls who sparked america's revolutions." thank you so much for being with us. this is obviously a big moment not just for barbie but for women who identify with the message that they can be anything just as the doll is support to represent, right? >> yeah, totally. today is quite a day to discover you have no hot pink in your wardrobe, something that happened to me. governor whitmer does not have that problem. >> absolutely. you noted that she is sort of taking her wardrobe as an asset, and in politics often wardrobe
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is a double standard. men don't get judged on what they wear the way women do. how is she using this moment to highlight her feminine power? >> what we're seeing is unique because i think what we've been used to is women in politics downplaying what they're wearing so that as governor whitmer told me the status quo which she was coming up in politics is don't draw to what you're wearing so people pay attention to what you say. she has long said that fuchsia is her power color, and so she has used her clothes to communicate how she wants to govern, what her priorities are, she's made reproductive justice a focus for her successful re-election, non-of 2022. i think there is -- november of 2022. i think this is her saying i'm going to use clothes as a billboard and use little gretch to do the same. >> what's been the reaction to little gretch? this use of culture to have a conversation about politics? >> you know, her team had said to me we don't feel you can
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change policy without talking about culture. and i think that that is reflected in the response to this story. you know, when i was working on it, i had no idea what the reaction would be. i think sometimes these social media plays can go either way. but i would say the response has been overwhelmingly positive. and if you just check out her instagram feed, you'll see that photos of little gretch have more engagement than photos of big gretch. >> thank you so much for the time. we should note the movie "barbie" is produced by a company under warner bros. discovery which is cnn's parent company. no word yet if they're going to sponsor bianna's fabulous outfit today. >> this is still what i would have worn nonetheless. first disney, now florida. governor ron desantis is going after bud light. we're going to tell you how and why ahead on "cnn news central." the coach. the manager. and the snack dad. all using chase to keep up with theirir finances. the coach helps save goals here,
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