my dad was a police officer, so, i learned gun safety at an early age and i'm comfortable around them. i felt like at the time that represented my personality, a little bit of pistol and a little bit of sweet. this was a reminder to keep working and keep those two things as part of my personality. this is my guitar hand, every time i strum i can see that, so it's a reminder to keep kicking ass. >> thank for watching, you could watch my full interview with miranda lambert as well as laura linney anytime you want. and please join us on cnn next friday night to find out who's talking next. good even, everyone, i'm sarah, and welcome to cnn tonight. we begin with donald trump's legal drama. we now know when donald trump is scheduled to go to trial in the classified documents case. the

judge decided it could begin as early as may 20th, six months before the 2020 election. >> but, smack tab in the middle of the presidential campaign. now, we're all waiting for another answer, will donald trump be indicted for the third time? and the case concerning whether he tried to subvert america's democracy. how this might play out as america decides who'll be their next president. plus, i'm serious about this, sharks on cocaine. not a joke. this shark week, you will learn some of the most outrageous things possible happening to sharking in our waters. and last but not least, will "ba "barbie" break records. america and margo rob by reveal why they

did not play with barbies growing up! a., we couldn't afford barbie, and the world of barbie didn't feel like it had very much for me in it. but, that's what is so beautiful for me in this moment and getting to be part of a story that's expanding the world of barbie to include the rest of us. it's friday, but, we're not done yet, there's plenty of news on different topics that we would like to get to you. let's begin with the only former president to face federal criminal charges in the united states history. america now knows when donald trump's first federal criminal trial is scheduled to begin. and joining me now, former assistant u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york. thank you so much for coming in on this friday night when you could be, out, watching a movie, i won't say which one. all right, we're looking ahead, team trump will try to push this trial, they've

already talked about try to go delay the trial and hoping it will go past may 2024, past, potentially the election. could they possible be successful? because there are always delays in trials or often. >> i will think there's a good chance this trial date does not hold. this is a massive case and the defense team has a valid reason to ask for more time, i think, as this case develops. >> so, when you look at the case itself, there's a lot of documents, there's a lot of video they still have to go over and of course, they had to be approved to look at some of the classified documents. so, all of those things, a fair bet, the judge will say, okay, if they're not ready, we got to move the date. all right. there are more legal troubles potentially ahead. it could be that he is indicted for a third time. he has received, already, a target letter. how likely is it that donald trump will be indicted on charges concerning the 2020 election? >> i think it's looking pretty good that we see another indictment out it have jack

smith's team related to the 2020 election, and frankly, likely, another in georgia as well, related to that conduct. those are overlapping cases. i think the georgia case is subbed in the federal case, but we'll see those cases and indictments in the coming weeks. >> a lot of people look at this last potential indictment and feel that that is the most important case of all the cases being brought, and potentially, the state of if a georgia case. how do they figure out where this works? is the classified documents case the first one, is it the first on the books? >> it's not going to depend on which case was brought first but which case requires the preparation or trial. there'll be jocking here, but, the former president has the right to

prepare for the trial, to have the time to invest and his team needs the time to invest in preparations and he will have good arguments to postpone the trials. >> if a case is put forward to the court, it doesn't matter the order in which it's put forward, but it matters how much time you need to try and defend your client in the case. all right. let's take a look at what trump's defense was saying today, here is what one of his lawyers told fox news. >> there's no need to appear in front of any grand jury right now. president trump did absolutely nothing wrong. he's done nothing criminal. the only thing that president trump asked was a pause in the counting so that those seven contesting states can reaudit or recertify. i've never heard of anyone get indicted for asking for an audit. >> all right. is that argument even a possibility here? >> i don't think. i mean, these are really talking points

for the media, from trump's team i think they don't go to the merits of the legal case against him. their case will be based on the calls that trump and his team members made. they have, unfortunately, for trump, some very strong evidence that's going to be appealing before a jury, actual audio and video and things like that. so, the evidence that you will see at the trial, should it happen, is different from, you know, the talking points that trump's team are putting out now. >> there's also rules set by the judge as well. we have seen donald trump say some very aggressive things towards district attorneys, towards judges that disagee with him and his team. do you think there's any possibility that there's a gag order put on the case, or, a warning? we've already seen a warning out of new york to the trump team. >> it's possible to see gag orders going forward here. and frankly, as a defense attorney

now, the last thing that you want to see is your client out there speaking publicly about the matters for which he's been indicted. that's not good defense strategy, but, his lawyers are not very effective in keeping their client quiet. so, but, i think the judges may try to do that. they think it's in his interest, and in the defendant's interest and the former president's interest and also in the public interest to keep him quiet here. >> when it comes to these many different cases that are being juggled, you have one in new york that concerns payments made to a porn star stormy daniels, you have one that's potential that may come forward, you think will probably be indicted, trump himself thinks he's going to be indicted in the 2020 election case. and you have the case in georgia that's potential. i mean, they're piling up. and then you have the classified documents case. with all of these cases going at the same time, how does he have a legal team that can deal with all of

these different things all coming around the same time? >> it's unclear, frankly, how he does that and how he does that effectively, because, you know, trump has already he's quite famous for moving through lawyers, right? so, using lawyers, and those relationships don't go so well, he hires new lawyers. and also, he not only has to get lawyer toss staff all of these teams but has to keep those lawyers, so, if he has some disagreements with these lawyers along the way, they part ways, that, again, could reset the clock on these cases. and then, the courts would allow more time for any new team that comes in to prepare. >> that could also be a tack tick used to delay, delay, delay, until after the election. we'll all be waiting to see what happens including trump himself and all the candidates against him. sarah, thank you so much

for your great analysis, thank you. >> thank you. now, let's bring in howard dean, he was of course a form early presidential candidate and vermont governor. i want to get your take, first, on something presidential candidate chris christie said on cnn about the strange reality of american politics today. let's listen. >> what we know is if donald trump winds up clenching the nomination by may of 2024, then, our candidate for president in our party will be sitting in a courtroom in florida for weeks. >> yep. >> being accused of crimes that would expose him to 30 years in prison. do you really think that's the person whose going to beat joe biden? >> does he have a point? is this what democrats are hoping for? >> well, i wouldn't go so far as to say we're hoping for trump to get the nomination, because, he's a danger to the future of the country, but, yeah, christi is right, i think joe biden wins

that handlely. his record has appeased a lot of people. catching tommy tuber who voted against his program and is now running around alabama telling everybody all of that money was his doing. i think biden wins that one. >> i think what just happened on cnn is a democrat and a republican agreed on something, so, i'm noting that first. i do want to find out from you which republican candidate at this point do you think would give joe biden the hardest time, the biggest fight? >> that's a really good question. i don't know the answer. the problem is they're stumbling, with the exception of asa hutchinson and chris christie, they're stumbling over who can be most ludicrous. desantis has destroyed his candidacy. talking about black people didn't suffer, i mean, who does this stuff? it's crazy. so, i just think that the

republican party is in really serious trouble. really serious trouble. and if they win, the country is in really serious trouble. and i think there's enough americans who will not vote for this ridiculous non nonsense. we'll find out. >> the florida board of education basically said slavery ended up, because of the work that slaves did, benefits slaves as well as others. that is what you are referring to and has sent a lot of people into a really angry place to hear that's what's going to be taught to school children. i want to also have you take a listen to what former vice-president pence supporter of him said on the trail today. i would love to see you be president for the united states. that's going to give you an honest congress. >> thank you. >> i don't believe you ever will be until the day you stand

up to that man. i just, believe that. i hope and maybe you're too good a christian to ever do that. >> thank you for your time. >> well, i don't know about too good a christian. >> [laughter] >> some people say i do a fair amount of standing up two and-a-half years ago. all right, you heard that, he's gotten a couple of pretty tough questions, that one was clear, saying, look, if you do not stand up against donald trump, you are never going to win. is this one of the essences of the problem for those who are running against donald trump, but, are still trying to court those who really are following and, who support donald trump? >> it's not only a problem in the presidential race for the republicans, i think that the democrats have a pretty good chance of holding the senate and picking up the house. and that is the reason why. there are too many republicans who know that trump is a malignant

narcissist and crazy, and they're afraid to say so. and without their, a lot of people in the republican party are on the ground, not the majority, but, a lot of people are on the ground like the guy who just asked that question. he at least showed the courage to stand up for something that was really against something that was really bad and asked pence to do the same thing. there are not enough republicans and they won't change fast enough by the 2024 election to get any of those people elected. because, the majority of americans do not want to sell the principles that america was founded on because they are angry at black people, poor people, or transgender children. >> you were referring the culture wars going on and being brought up in campaigns. i do want to ask you this, what do you think, donald trump, who is right now, the republican front-runner, and joe biden who

is the incumbent democrat, have such low ratings at this time? >> that's a really good question, i think in biden's case it's partly his age. they would like somebody who is younger, but, his record of accomplishment is extraordinary. really extraordinary, if you looked at what he did, i think he outguns the last few presidents on both sides. so, um, that's why i think biden's number's are low. trump's numbers are low because that's donald trump. people don't like crooks and he is one. and we're going to find out if the justice system thinks so too, in a few months. >> howard dean, it's a pleasure to speak with you, thank you for your candid commentary. i appreciate it. >> thank you. ahead, is the florida department of education trying to rewrite u.s. history, particularly when it comes to

the history of slavery in america, the most well-known attorney in america, also a florida an, attotorney, benjami crump joins us next.

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in the news tonight, the new set of standards for teaching black history in florida public schools.he state's board of education unanimously approved a new curriculum including a lesson teaching slavery could have offered a "personal benefit" to enslaved people. vice-president harris taking a last minute trip to florida today to blast those you standards. >> they are creating these unnecessary debates. this is unnecessary to debate whether enslaved people benefited from slavery, are you kidding me? are we supposed to debate that? let

us not be distracted by what they're trying to do which is to create unnecessary debates, to divide our country. let's not fall in that trap. >> and, florida governor desantis, when asked about it tonight standing by the standards but saying he was not involved in passing them. now, i want to bring in civil rights attorney benjamin crump who also happens to be a florida resident. thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me, sarah. >> i want to ask you about this, the idea that they are putting forth to children, that's going to be taught that slavery could be in some cases to the personal benefit of the slave. what do you think florida's board of education is trying to do here? >> i think, sarah, they're trying to offer revisionist history to match their political

ideology. and it is so very harmful to our children all of our children, but, especially the descendents of those who were enslaved. this has the potential to cause severe psychological trauma to african-american students who are in middle school and high school and have to be told that, actually, slavery was good for your ancestors. how offensive is that, sarah? it's deplorable and we're better than this. >> i want to let you hear from the florida governor who is now, of course, running for the presidency in the republican party, this is what he said about all of this um controversy. >> anyone who read that is will see that's very thorough, very factual, and for them to try and demagogue it, look, that

may have worked in the past, nobody's buying their nonsense anymore, she's going to come to the state of florida and try to chirp and demagogue, all she's doing is ignoring the responsibilities that the administration has to secure our border, they're failing at that. >> okay, what did you think of his response there to calling out kamala harris saying she's just there, basically for political reasons. >> it's an attempt to deflect, what vice-president kamala harris did today was true leadership. what you saw there was not leadership. you know, she talked to us about how we must stand for truth. we must stand for equality, we must stand for fairness. that's not what you heard the governor talk about. he did not come and

condemn the standard that said we're going to teach our children that slavery wasn't that bad, in fact, it was beneficial. previously they talked about the holocaust not being real. and so, how far does this go before true leaders like the president and the vice-president say, "no, we will stand on truth!" we will not let you lie to our children. and this is what this is about. our children. our future, america's at the cross roads and we have a choice to make. >> i want to talk to you about this, because, you do live in the state of florida, you're also an attorney and a black american. in 2020, so, three years ago, there was a law passed in florida, hb-1213, it went into effect in july and it

required public schools to certify that they teach the holocaust and the 1920 florida election day massacre. and those two things were in this bill that then governor ron desantis signed. and now, three years later, there's this new controversy because there seems to be new language or there is new language about how these things will be taught particularly when it comes to american history, and specifically, black american history. why do you think that is? he signed it into law that it is required to be taught and now there are changes. >> it is what i've been trying to play on the divisiveness. it is trying to create wedges in society for political gain. it is not proper. we've seen it throughout history. and, we

have seen that america and people of moral character have risen above that sarah, and so, now, we must let those enemies who champion against equality know that we're going to take a stand for truth and equality. the fact that race massacre in oconee, when black people tried to defend themselves from being killed and their property burned, you can't say they were creating violence to try and teach that false narrative really harms our children from understanding the true history of what slavery was. what racism is. was discrimination is. and the fact is, if our children don't learn the true

history, then, we may soon find out ourselves repeating it. and that is what is so dangerous about this, the fact that if you tell young people and indoctrinate it in their minds that slavery isn't a bad thing and when they become leaders tomorrow, they have been taught that and so we may go down that road again. and we can't go down that road again. and that's why we must say slavery was evil and it was immoral, period. point blank. >> and with that, i'm going to end this conversation, ben crump, i know you speak for

others. i certainly didn't learn about the oconee massacre when i was in school, it is now required but there's controversy on how it will be taught and whether it will be taught fairly and truthfully. benjamin crump, thank you so much for joining us on cnn tonight. >> thank you, a. the gilgo beach serial killer suspect's wife still filing for divorce now. as we learned, he might have lured his victims to h his home. anan ex on serial killers is joining us next.

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a man accused of leading a double life. a new york architect, is now charged with the gilgo beach killings. tonight, authorities are looking into whether the alleged kill e rex heuermann lured women to a suburban home before killing them. investigators say their disappea disappearance coincided with his wife and kids being out of town. joining me is catherine ramsey, and she's the author of "how to catch a killer". thank you for coming on the program, you say that what you're learning about heuermann, you've seen before, in other killers like john wayne gayssy, and richard cunningham. what similarities that you see? >> well, first all of them had families. all of them had jobs.

all of them had um, passed in their neighborhoods as ordinary people. and they were able to carry this on for sometimes years without anybody suspecting that they were also committing crimes, very serious crimes of murder, and sometimes rape. they had a way of being able to put on a face, put on a facade, play a role. several roles, and still go out and murder people. >> that is extreme compoart mentalization. how did they do it. >> everybody can play the roles, they have a reason why they're doing it, they want to keep their dark stuff hidden, they want to keep doing it. so, they're very skilled at it. they usually have a very active fantasy life, and then they

disassociate from their ordinary life, and build, one of them, dennis rader called "life frames". so, they could turn whatever face they need outward it meet the circumstances, to meet the demands and deflect people from suspecting them with anything. >> professor, investigators are looking at the case from the angle that he may have committed these crimes inside his long island home. a source close to the investigation told cnn that the disappearance occurred while his family, as we said earlier was out of town. if that is true, what does that reveal to you about his mentality? you wouldn't think that someone would actually do this in their own home, the dangers of being caught would be much higher, wouldn't they? >> the dangers of being caught are higher when they lure victims to their home, however, there's an attitude called

narcissistic immunity. they think they're the smartest people in the room, they don't think they're going to get caught, they think they're so skilled at what they're doing, that nobody will suspect. they think they can clean up so well that nobody will ask questions. and i would guess that is what happened because his family was completely blindsided by this. so, if inde killed these women in his home, he was able to clean it up. >> it's terrifying and we know his wife filed for divorce this week. he is charged in the connection of the deaths right now of three women and he's considered the prime suspect in the death of a fourth woman found nearby. tonight, police are saying their investigation spans four different states. can you explain how serial killer's patterns evolve over the years? >> well, serial killers, they're not a criminal type. there are a lot of different

motivations and different m.o.s, and different reasons why they're doing it. it's kind of a myth to think they always do the same thing, because, quiet often they will diversify, and try different things or if they think the police are onto them, they will find different hunting ground or burial ground. they do change some things. i know they're suspecting there might be victims in other states where he owns properties. um, that would be the easiest way of getting away with this is killing strangers in places where he doesn't usually reside. on the other hand, he killed four and dumped their bodies not too far from where he lived and still he got away with that for starting 15 years, 2007 was the first one and he was not identified as a suspect until

2020. so, he did get away with it for quite a long time even though they were fairly close to where he lived. >> these families have gone through hell all of these years, wondering what happened, and wondering who did this. and now there's a suspect in custody after a lot of work, including new techniques in forensics which helped to push this case forward. professor, thank you so much for coming on and explaining the mind of a serial killer, it is always interesting to delve into that, as well as terrifying, we appreciate you coming on the show. >> thank you for having me. all right. switching gears, you've heard of cocaine bear? well, now, there's cocaine shark? yeah. scientists are concerned sharks may be eating bundles of cocaine dumped into the ocean. we'll discuss that mess, next. 're getting into, but atat the end of the day, you know you have a team behinid you that can help you.

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we know you've heard of c cocaine bear, a movie released this year based on a true story. tonight we are one upping that story with cocaine sharks. before you judge, give me a second because scientists are looking into whether shark are getting high on cocaine after drug smugglers dumped cocaine into the ocean. marine biologist have notice the strange behavior, take a look. >> you notice how she's swim snowing. >> yeah, it looks like she's slightly on one side, almost like she's weighted down, she's not quite levelled. now, that

is unusual. it could be a past injury, or may be a chemical imbalance, either way, something to note for sure. >> turns out even sharks have chemical imbalances, joining me now from our sister networks, discovery, cocaine sharks boris. thank you so much for being here. >> hi, sarah, how are you? >> all right. it sounds insane, cocaine sharks, just saying it makes me concerned that people will think i'm insane, but, how is this a possibility? >> well, to be clear, it is insane, i mean, what happens is as you can imagine, human beings have a large impact on the environment, no matter what we do or where we go. so, what potentially you may be seeing in this clip, which, to be clear i had nothing to do with, is where sharks may have an impact from

drugs or other pharmaceuticals in the water, we've seen it in place in south florida, bone fish are testing high for antidepressants dumped into the ocean. and there are pharmaceuticals in the skin. the sharks that eat the fish may suffer negative consequences. >> i mean, it sounds pretty scientific, like, you know, this could happen. and the fact that, you know, when people are traversing the cocaine into the ocean and dumping it in there, you could see how it could affect the food change. i heard that marine biologist are testing the shark's reaction to fake bails of cocaine, what happens when they do? >> you know, i'm not aware of those tests, i really couldn't tell you, with a i could say is the clips that you are looking at of a hammer head, they're somewhat inquisitive sharks,

but, when it comes to certain species of tiger sharks, they're known as the dumpsters of the ocean, we've found car tires in their stomachs, license plates an things, they will take what we call an investigative bite, they see something, it's bazaar, and they will take a nibble and find out wether or not that's something that's edible. my belief would be if you took a nibble of a block of cocaine, you're not many coming back for seconds. how it could change their behavior from a single does, i can't say, that's not my area of expertise, but, through a tiger shark being inquisitive, these animals, could, indeed, i guess get a hit of cocaine, and unlike human beings, it would not affect them in a way, it would give them major problems. >> i want to ask you about your show on discovery called

"alien sharks, strange new worlds". what are you talking about? >> well, it's discovery channel, so, we're not pretending there are extraterrestrial sharks, this is a play on words to talk about something i'm interested in how worldly some of these lesser sharks are. like in this clip, it's animals that don't get spotlight, you could see this is the mating behavior captured for the first time on film, perhaps not as sexy as cocaine sharks. >> i got you, that was slick, sir. that was very slick. i love looking at what is happening in our oceans, i don't think we do it enough. i don't think there's enough scientific exploration there, we like to go to space, we tonight really know what's happening at the bottom of our oceans, so it's

wonderful to see the program toss learn what's happening in our world. thank you so much for joining us, and i must mention "shark week" starts this sunday, make sure to tune in to discovery. >> thank you. thank you so much. now, to a storybook moment for soccer fans, messi made his long awaited debut with major league soccers into miami the way you would expect a soccer player to, messi scored the game-winning goal, with a free kick strike from outside the box to seal the 2-1, miami victory over mexican club cruz azul. >> messi. >> there it is. messi! >> . [cheers] >> . [applause] >> couldn't have been any

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the writers and actors go on strike. they say they didn't even play with barbie as children, but they loved the barbie world. she was a tomboy, didn't like dresses and she was too busy showing the boys who was boss to play with barbie. ferreira tells us why she was not a barbie girl. >> the first dark skinned barbie was in 195 9 and she was called dark skin francie. you mention there wasn't a whole lot in it for me, but it sounds like you are happy with the way the film represents the evolution really of barbie and the revolution of women. >> yeah. speaking for myself, absolutely.

i think what i loved about getting to play gloria was that she is a stand in for all of us, for all kind of human women trying to like make sense of like what does it mean to be a woman real or imagined. >> barbie is being released by warner brothers which shares the parent company warner brothers discovery from cnn. those that struggle with self worth, nobody is quite like you. you are unique, so love yourself no matter what. you are enough. and speaking of uniquely wonderful human beings, in fayetteville, north carolina, home of fort liberty, this week's cnn hero was struggling to survive after a brain injury when she saw veterans in need. of the more than 30,000 veterans that are homeless in the united states, many are living in or near military towns. our hero's own road to recovery

took a turn and made it her personal mission to give back to those who have served their country. meet stacy buckner. >> boots on the ground to get back there, find them and meet their needs. we provide clothing, food. there is a full kitchen in the back. we also do laundry. your pants are almost done spinning, baby. >> just filling a basic human need. >> i like the setup you got. >> this is not brick and mortar. >> even though i'm not a veteran, i do have myth mental-health issue that is come with having a traumatic brain injury, so i can relate. >> you have been burning the road up in that walker, i know that much. >> sometimes i really do surprise people with who i am. look at me. i look really rough around the edges, right? that's for you. what else do you need. >> i'm all tated up and may say a cuss word now and then, but i'm stacy. it's important to show veterans

there are organizations out there that want to provide support to you. >> love to see the love, all the way stacy's outreach is helping veterans in her hometown, go to cnn heroes.com and nominate your hero. and thank you for watching us, our coverage continues. ♪ the only thing i regret about my life

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