tv Anderson Cooper 360 CNN July 24, 2023 5:00pm-6:01pm PDT
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and finally tonight, an update on the baby scene in this viral video being rescued from a scorching car in texas. you can see the baby's father smashing the windshield with a tire iron. he accidentally locked his keys inside the car after he parked at the grocery store, now, at the time the heat index was about 105 degrees. the infant was out of the car by the time the police arrived. we're told the baby is fine and didn't need further medical attention. thank goodness for that. and thanks to all of you for joining us. "ac 360" begins right now. good evening, tonight on "360" did the former president praise election security, weeks before he began attacking it. mitt romney issuing a warning and a time line for low polling presidential candidates to get out of the race to save the
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party from a third trump nomination. and the latest on the alleged gilgo beach killer, meet the woman who says she went on a date with him and survived. good evening, we begin with new information about special counsel jack smith's keen interest in a 2020 oval office meeting that has not been previously reported on. the meeting took place in february of 2020. in attendance were the former president, senior u.s. officials and white house staff. sources tell cnn that smith is focused on comments the former president made during this meeting about the state of u.s. election security and how those private remarks may differ from the baseless lies he may spread about election fraud in the coming weeks. one hurdle smith has to overcome in any potential indictment of the former president in attempts to overturn the election is whether he can prove the former president actually knew he lost. it's been eight days sinces president was informed he was a target in the investigation.
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our senior justice correspondent who helped break the story about the meeting joins us with more. what more have you learned? >> reporter: anderson, this is a meeting that happened in february of 2020, and the former president was encouraging some of his top officials, from the homeland security department, the fbi to go out and tell the public all of the great work they had done to secure the 2020 election. he was very proud of the work that they said they had done. he said you should go out and do a public press conference to try to tell the public about this. of course this, within weeks, the former president began talking about his concerns that the 2020 vote would be the subject of fraud, that there would be interference in the election, including because the democrats were using mail-in ballots. of course, we know, anderson, once the former president realized that he had not won the election, that he didn't like the election results, he quickly abandoned all of those experts
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who he had stood with him, obviously, and was starting to listen to people, his non-experts, people who were telling him that the election had been interfered with by venezuela, by china, and of course by italian satellites, all of which of course was false. >> what does this meeting mean for jack smith's investigation? >> well one of the things you pointed out for jack smith and his prosecution team will be trying to decipher what the former president believed. did the actually think there was fraud. did he think the election had been interfered with by venezuela or the chinese satellites. that's one of the key things for the prosecutors to try to cross the hurdle, certainly, if they bring a case against the former president, so we expect certainly from one of the questions that we understand witnesses were asked, the prosecutors seemed very much focused on that. the former president's state of mind, whether he actually believed these bogus claims or whether he really believed his experts that the election was as
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the homeland security department said the most secure in u.s. history. >> there's new reporting regarding thousands of documents related to rudy giuliani that have been turned over to the special counsel. >> right. these finally got into the hands of the special counsel team just yesterday on sunday, and that is bernie kerik, the former police commissioner new york, he had been working alongside rudy giuliani, again, trying to come up with some of the proof that they were looking for, that there was actually this fraud or that there were actually problems in the election, and so now we know that thousands of pages of documents, things like witness statements and research that kerik and his team had prepared for giuliani and some of the former president's allies, all of that now is in the hands of the special counsel. again, they have not had access to this. this is something that the january 6th committee in congress had asked for and did not receive. and so, anderson, bun of the things we're trying to figure out. we wait for the grjd to
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reconvene tomorrow and on thursday is whether this batch of new documents, thousands of pages is something that puts off their work, or, you know, finally completing their work by some time or whether this is something that perhaps they already have enough evidence that they are ready to go forward with an indictment, anderson. >> appreciate it. perspective from elie honig, former assistant u.s. attorney and author of "untouchable, how powerful people get away with it" now is it that the former president, praising election security and the security folks, how does that interest jack smith? >> this case, anderson, for prosecutors is going to be all about proving criminal intent. proving what donald trump actually did is not going to be that tough. a lot of it was done publicly, a lot of it was captured on video tape. what he knew he was asking for was false. as a prosecutor this is a great starting point to make the
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argument. you say ultimately to a jury, here he is, he's geg advice from the best election security experts in the world, in his own administration, and not only is he accepting it, he's celebrating it, and then later on, you would argue, there are times he acknowledges to certain witnesses, mark milley, alyssa farah, that he knew he lost the election, and other times there are reliable people telling him you lost the election. all taken, you know he knew he lost and therefore this was a fraud. >> couldn't somebody who believes the former president look at it and say doesn't this show he was concerned about election security and genuinely interested in election security. >> there's always going to be a defense and a another side. this proves he was hands on, concerned about election security, and later on when some of his advisers, rudy giuliani and sidney powell and others told him there was fraud that when he was reaching out to georgia and these other states he was simply trying to act on that concern, act on that information. we may say who would trust rudy
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and sidney powell, his response would be, sure, maybe i was wrong, but you can't say that's criminal, you can't say that was a fraud. >> there was never actually any evidence that showed fraud, and courted ruled that time and time again. >> i think that gets to the second story that evan was just talking about, the only evidence that was ever ginned up was sort of nonsense, these documents that rudy giuliani put together that amount to nothing and that it was all really a pretext, and hence, again, prosecutors would argue, hence he had criminal intent and hence it was a fraud. >> it does give a sense that jack smith was going, you know, we all knew about the oval office, jack smith, or we knew because of cnn and other's reporting that jack smith was looking at one oval office meeting, but seems as though he's looking back into the history time machine. >> this is another indication that jack smith is looking at this case as a long lasting broad-based security. in fact, the events of january 6th itself seem to be like they're going to be maybe a
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final chapter or postscript, but the conspiracy, i think, jack smith will argue goes back well before the election that donald trump had it in his head for months before the election that win or lose, and he lost, he was still going to claim that there was fraud and that was the conspiracy in action for many many months before this. >> you've said in the past that this is a really hard case to bring. do you still believe that? >> i do think it's a difficult case to bring. don't believe anyone who says that is smoking gun, slam dunk, especially with issues with intent. it's not the better argument, prosecutors have to prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt and on top of that, donald trump is a polarizing figure. if this case goes to trial, it will be near the 2024 election, maybe after the 2024 election, if he loses, you've got to get all 12 jurors to convict. this is a worthy case based on what we know, i think it's a justifiable case, a righteous case, but it's not an easy case. >> ellie honig, thank you very
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much. two new polls from fox show they are not stopping his political momentum. in iowa, 46% of likely voters prefer the former president. 46%. that's 30 points above florida governor ron desantis, at 16. tim scott, south carolina senator, the only other candidate in double digits is at 11% in the poll. in south carolina, 48%. 34 points ahead of south carolina governor nikki haley and 14%, desantis has 13% and scott is at 10%. we should know both polls conducted july 15th through the 19th, the former president announced he received the letter from the doj on the 18th. this afternoon as we mentioned, senator mitt romney published an op-ed, headline, asking donors to polling candidates, nudge them when they can't win the nomination. left to their own inclinations, expect several contenders to stay in the race for a long
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time, they will split the non-trump vote giving him the prize. joined by two senior political commentators, adam kinzinger, former congressman, and david axelrod, former senior adviser to president obama. a commanding lead in two key primary states doesn't appear as though legal troubles amount to much for supporters in those states. do you think another indictment from the special counsel makes a difference? >> no, i mean, no. i think, look, every indictment, every legal issue makes it less likely that donald trump wins the presidency because certainly i think independents this will affect, and it will drive turnout from the democrats and may depress turnout a little bit on the republicans, but look, it is a sign of your fealty to republicanism if you just want to own the libs and owning the libs including i'm going to put donald trump back in despite all of this, and there's obviously
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this information warfare out there from the party, from other networks and stuff that basically is saying this is one big attack by the deep state against donald trump. so i don't know if this one strengthens him per se, i don't think it's going to hurt him. i think when it comes to the general election, it makes it, again, thankfully, far less likely he can win. >> david, senator romney certainly seems to be making a sensible point, if when a republican, you don't want trump to be elected, is he right? should certain gop candidates drop out when their paths become impossible? >> you know, the problem is that you have to have someone to run against trump. people have to coalesce around a candidate, and no one has, at this juncture, shown themselves to be that strong candidate who can take trump on. look, the bottom line is half of the republican electorate or more, want donald trump. half the electorate or more,
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despite what adam just said, and i agree with him believed that trump would be the strongest candidate, those are the facts and i have enormous respect for senator romney, and a lot of my friends who say similar things, but they have a hard time come to go grips with the fact that this republican party is not their republican party. this republican party is not the party that mitt romney ran in even in 2012. this is donald trump's party, and right now, he is in command, and every one of these indictments is a certification that he is taking on the deep state. he is taking on the establishment, and this is their revenge, and people are lining up and they're lining up behind him. he has a larger lead now than when the indictments began. >> congressman, the desantis campaign are talking about pivoting to a leaner and meaner operation, after obviously failing to gain traction in this early polling.
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did the governor miscalculate, leaning into culture war activities right out of the gate. not being lean and mean the issue? >> i think his issue was thinking, and i think his plan was donald trump will be indicted, this is what he was hoping, he will naturally through miracles and unicorns and the man on a white horse that doesn't exist be kind of taken out of the race. and desantis, then, he's trump-like, he's a younger version of donald trump. that was his play. it's not working because if you want donald trump, guess what, you're going to vote for donald trump. i think desantis is doa in this election. i think the only people -- this is just a wag, a wild guess, i think the only people who have a shot besides donald trump, potentially tim scott. tim scott is the guy who i think really could surprise people, similar to bill clinton in '92. chris christie actually has a shot if there is a widespread kind of understanding that
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donald trump is utterly unfit for office, and he's been the one that has really taken donald trump head on. it's a very small path, of course, and then i think, you know, i think it's people like that that may have a shot, but no, this is donald trump's campaign. this is donald trump's race. he's probably going to win this primary. but that doesn't mean, by the way, other republicans listening to this that don't like donald trump, stay on top of this. try to save the party. because it's a noble fight, and frankly, the republican party will burn down in the general election in 2024, if, in fact, it is donald trump, and that's when you can rebuild. >> david, what about your assessment, is desantis in the congressman's words doa? what do you think about tim scott and chris christie, or is there anybody else? >> yeah, there are several. i mean, i've never really bought the desantis thing for a number of reasons. one is if you have a choice between a replica, you know, a new and improved maga trump kind
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of guy, you know, people want the real thing. they have made that clear. they don't want the new and improved product. >> no one liked new coke when it came out. >> exactly. he is the new coke of the republican party right now. the second element is, you know, his one critique of trump is that he's a loser, but he won't even acknowledge that trump lost. and i don't think that is lost on people. you know, he is coming across as a politician and trump's supporters don't view him as a politician. they view him as an anti-politician, they view him as the leader of a movement, and it's hard to be a conventional politician. by the way, you know, he announced that he is going to do this reboot, and he's going to become lean and mean at a meeting of his high dollar donors in utah. and that's exactly what the people who have questions about desantis fear is that he's actually the establishment's candidate to take out trump. so one thing, anderson, i want
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to say, i've heard a lot of republicans, including tim scott in the last few days, when the latest indictment letter, the target letter went out, i was at the capital, and donald trump wasn't there. he didn't provoke this, it was the people who came. i don't think that's what the indictment is going to be about. i don't think they're going to indict him for provoking the riot, and the insurrection at the capitol. they're going to indict him for months and months of scheming and plotting to overturn an election. and when the facts of that come out, they're going to have to reboot, and i don't know how they explain it, you know. >> can also just pretend like they have been pretending that they never said it or just move on. adam kinzinger, david axelrod. >> and show up at a convention where they nominate donald trump. breaking news on what was found at ukraine's zaporizhzhia power plant that is of concern. also air-raid sirens in odessa as ukrainians face another night of possible russian attacks.
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the zaporizhzhia power plant. they are antipersonnel mines on the periphery of the site. the plant is currently aupd by russian forces. the announcement comes as the city is being hit nightly by russian attacks. the city is bracing for the hours ahead. moments ago they heard air-raid sirens go off. on sunday, hitting the cathedral. the cathedral is structurally unsound. ukrainian officials confirmed they had carried out drone attacks on two nonresidential buildings in moscow. one of the buildings was located near the headquarters of russia's defense ministry. russian official says they thwarted that attack. cnn's alex marquardt joins us from odessa. what more do we know about these mines at zaporizhzhia? >> reporter: anderson, this power lanplant is the biggest i europe. anytime you hear explosives, that's never a good thing.
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rafael gros si says his experts from the agency were at the plant on sunday. they did spot the signs, which had been talked about before, including by president zelenskyy. they are designed to maim, hurt, kill people. they are pointing away from the plant, we are told. obviously that doesn't give any kind of comfort. the iaea in a statement, stating the obvious saying that this goes against the safety standards and nuclear security guidance of the agency, and they do note that they were told that this was a military decision in an area controlled by the military, as you noted, this is the russian military that controls this area. president zelenskyy had warned that this area had been mined and he also warned that russia may carry out some kind of provocative action and blame it on ukraine. anderson. >> what's been going on in odessa? >> reporter: well, this has been a week now since these incredible attacks that we've seen almost nightly. very intense both in the city
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and all over the region. tonight we did hear air-raid sirens. there was a warning that drones may be on the way to the city. that was eventually called off, and since then, it's been relatively calm. we have seen incredible levels of destruction, primarily in the city center, that historic city center, the transfiguration cathedral was severely damaged, probably the most damage in the city. we were there for hours earlier today. we saw the windows blown out in the dome. we saw the alter that had been very badly damaged. a corner of the cathedral where a rocket had come in and gone down two floors. it was pretty bad, and it was one of the 25 architectural monuments, we are told, by a local military official that was damaged in a strike on sunday, and then today early in the morning, there were drone strikes against a port far west in the odessa province, on the danube river right up against the border with romania.
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not only were they targeting a grain storage facility and continuing to go after these grain and food facilities, but anderson, this was the strike that was closest to a nato country by russia's military since this war began. these drones striking a site just hundreds of years from the romanian border which of course is a nato member. anderson. >> what about the drone strikes in moscow? >> well, we understand that there were two strikes, two drones that were flown into moscow. ukrainian drones. very quickly claiming responsibility, and that raises the question of whether this is part of the retaliation that president zelenskyy had promised, that russia would feel because of all of these strikes that they have been carrying out here in odessa. they didn't cause that much damage, certainly less damage than we've seen in odessa. they were suppressed, according to russian authorities, taken down by electronic jamming. they hit what russian authorities called non-residential buildings.
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one of them hitting an area with some extremely sensitive buildings, a ministry of defense complex, where there are a number of different offices for the russian military, including one cyber unit that carries cyber operations for the gru, which is military intelligence. >> alex marquardt, i'm joined by national security analyst, steve hall, chief of russian operations. what do you find most notable about the drone attacks in moscow near the defense ministry? >> the drone attacks, anderson, are quite interesting. i mean, obviously the ministry of defense inside of russia is certainly an obvious target if the ukrainians, especially if they want to send a message. it's right on what they refer to right along the moscow river. it's not just one building. there's a cluster of buildings as alex was alluding to. there's some gru activity as well. and my understanding is they got, the drone itself got within a half block of the main ministry of defense building in the south of moscow.
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the second one, a little further outside, outside what they refer to as the encod, the beltway that goes around the outskirts of moscow, it's a few miles away from the head of the svr headquarters in moscow, so unclear as to whether or not that was a target or not but the really interesting part of all of this, i think, is the ukrainians now claiming responsibility and in my view, they're trying to determine or trying to encourage, i suppose, the russian people to say, whoa, this is now at our doorstep, the war is here, we got to do something about this, and maybe it has to do with complaining to the government or getting rid of the government. it's possible the russians might also think, wow it's at our doorstep, we need to fight harder. it will be interesting to see the russian response. >> is it clear the drones are being flown from ukrainian territory or if they're being launched from inside russia itself or in moscow? >> yeah, that's asking the right question, anderson, because i
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think a lot of it depends on the type of drown. i think when many of us here in the united states and western countries think of drones, we think of the photograph type of drones that have the four little propellers, those you need to be really close by to control those things, so if you're talking about a smaller drone like that, you've got to have somebody closer by. but if you're talking about some of these drones, like, for example, the iranian ones that the rugs are using, those can be controlled from much further away. a lot remains to be determined as to what type of drone, whether they had explosives, and most importantly, as you asked, where they're being controlled from. >> steve hall, i appreciate it. thank you. we want to show you images now from israel. hundreds of thousands protesting, one of the most significant shakeups of the country's legal system since its founding. the first in a series of bills meant to reshape the country's judiciary past earlier today. it strips israel's supreme court of the power to declare government decisions unreasonable. the bill passed despite six months of protests and american pressure. critics say the bills undermine the country's checks and
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balances system. bro benjamin netanyahu is pushing these bills to protect himself from his own corruption trial. the bills are meant to rebalance powers between the branches of government. next for us, the investigation continues into the suspect accused of killing three of the gilgo four. i'll speak with a woman who says she went on a date with the alleged killer, and says he talked about the killings with her. ingredients clinicically n to protect your ears from dizziziness, ear ringing, and even hearing loss. never miss a moment with lipo flavononoid. may lead to severe vision loss and if you're taking a multi-vitamin alone, you may be missing critical piece... preservision preservision areds 2 contains the only clinically proven nutrient formula recommended byhe national eye institute to help reduce the risk of moderate to advanced amd progression. preservision is backed by 20 years of clinical studies. so ask your doctor about adding preservision and fill in a missing piece of your plan. like i did with preservision.
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his yard using a k-9 and ground penetrating radar. authorities are looking into his properties in south carolina and nevada. rex heuermann is charged with murder in three of the gilgo four, the 59-year-old architect is also the prime suspect in the disappearance and killing of the fourth woman but he hasn't been charged yet in that case. the gilgo four were a group of women whose remains were found near long island's gilgo beach in 2010. heuermann has plead not guilty in three of those murders. earlier i spoke with the makeup artist, hair and makeup artist named nicky brash. she says she went on a date with the suspect in the summer of 2015. how did you first encounter the man you believed to be the gilgo killer? >> i don't believe it to be him, for one. >> you're convinced this isn't him. >> i'm convinced. i'm a thousand percent sure. >> this guy reaches out to you. did he say immediately he wanted you to come to his house? >> yes, but the issue was he
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lives in nassau county, and he was in massapequa, and i'm not familiar with the area, and i'm very locationly challenged. like i need a gps to go home, and i could live there for five year. i'm bad. and i didn't have friends nearby in case anything happened. so i asked him if he would meet me many port jeff at the steam room because in port jeff, it's a small town. >> that's a restaurant. >> yeah. it's a small town, i knew the area. i had friends locally. and people nearby that if something were to go wrong, they could be there quickly. >> so you do meet with him at the restaurant in port jefferson? >> yeah, well, before i met him i was at chuck e cheese with my sister, and i had said to her, i showed her a picture, and i said, hey, this is who i'm going out with tonight, if anything happens, this is what he looks like. and i would do that -- i would do that for every time. i did it just for my own safety. >> you know, i think i jumped
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ahead. he reached out to you, you asked him for a picture? >> yeah, because i said i wanted to know who i was looking for. i didn't want to show up at a restaurant and be like who's meeting me here, you know what i mean? >> and you showed the picture to your sister and gave her the picture. >> i didn't give it to her, i showed it to her on my phone. this is who i'm going to be with so you know who he looks like. at the time, we used fake names, so i couldn't give her a name. and we met. we didn't meet in front of his car or where i could have gotten a plate or description of it. we met directly in front of the restaurant. >> what did you think when you first saw him? >> oh, my god, he's massive. at the time, i was, you know, 24 years old. i was like 120, 130 pounds, you know, hadn't had kids yet. and he was a gigantic man. like i had to look up at him
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gigantic, and it wasn't just his height. it was his weight. it was everything. he was just this huge, very like over bearing type of weight. like he almost carried his weight to intimidate. >> and what was he like when you were sitting across the table from him? >> so before we sat down, he shook my hand, which i just have to say, there's no reason to have a handshake that firm. like -- >> he had a really strong handshake. >> like i get that firm handshake to show confidence, do you know what i mean, but his was like -- >> like aggressive -- like to hurt you. >> like an aggressive grip, you know what i mean. other than that, he seemed normal. he seemed like -- well, first, well, right when we sat down, i said hi, it's nice to meetl nam rex, didn't give me a last name or anything. we sat down. he seemed perfectly normal at first. he seemed like your typical guy
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who was bored with his life, you know, and wanted some kind of excitement, you know what i mean. it didn't get weird until he asked me if i was true crime fan. >> wait a minute, he asked you if you were a true crime fan. >> he asked me if i was a true crime fan, and i am. i'm a serial killer buff. i won't even lie. he said, do you know about the gilgo beach murders. >> he actually brought it up. >> yeah. he said to me, exactly, do you know about the gilgo beach murders, and i was like, yeah, i'm from long island. everybody from long island knows about them, you know what i mean. and that's when he started talking about it. but here's the thing. when he brought it up, his whole demeanor changed. he sat up straighter, you know, he had like a smirk on his face. he seemed almost like too excited to talk about it. and then once he did start
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talking about it, it didn't seem like a true crime fan who knows information they have seen on tv or read, it seemed like somebody who was reliving it. one thing i remember specifically was he said to me, how do you think they get rid of the bodies without going noticed? and i said i have no clue. i've never been to gilgo beach. i don't know the access point, i couldn't tell you anything about it, i have no idea. and he said, what if they treaded through the marsh with burlap sacks, you would never see them. he's like it's a very dark and desolate area. >> what happened that day? you decide at some point this is not a good idea. >> so after he started talking about everything he ended it with saying, oh, i live by gilgo beach. >> are you kidding me? >> i'm not -- after telling me all of this, you then tell me
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you live near gilgo beach and it's dark and it's desolate, so that weirded me out enough. >> and that's where he wanted you to go, to his house near gilgo beach. when i wouldn't go with him, he started seeing visually agitated, i put in all of this work, i came out to suffolk, i took you to dinner, met you in public, why are you not going back with me. like almost like i owed it to him. even though he seemed agitated, he used his like weight and size to almost try to intimidate me even more. >> thank goodness you didn't. >> i was terrified. i called somebody to meet me in the parking lot to make sure i got to my car okay. >> when you saw the news break and you saw his picture. >> i immediately texted my little sister and told her to go look at the news. and i said i was right, i knew it. because after that dinner, for years, i'm telling you, years, i told everybody, i'm telling you
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i went to dinner with the gilgo beach killer, i know it's him. i went to dinner with him. and i mean when he got arrested, my sister recognized him. but not only that, it's hard to forget somebody who's like 6'6", 300 pounds, who's an architect in manhattan and lives in massapequa. you know, those are very specific details. >> so when you saw his image, though, once the news broke, you were like a thousand percent, that is the guy? >> i'm so sure i could sit across him today and i'd be like i know you remember me. and if you try saying you don't, you're lying. like i know he knows who i am. >> and this is an important point, your life has changed a lot since then? >> yeah, and that's why i came out, the point i'm making, i don't want to drag my whole history through the mud where everybody knows i'm a former escort or i suffered from addiction or this and that. i want people to realize that i am a mom and a hairstylist and a make up artist, and i was able
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to change my life. and these girls weren't. they didn't get the opportunity to get out of that situation. and most people in that situation are vulnerable and desperate, and have no other means or outlet or ways to go. >> and that's one reason, perhaps, he was targeting you and others. >> yeah, i think he targeted women that were less likely to go to police, and that's another reason i'm coming forward because i feel like there's women out there who probably had a lot more of a dangerous encounter with him than i did, and got away who were too scared to talk about it. >> nicky, i wish you the best. thank you so much for talking. >> you're welcome. thank you for having me. still ahead tonight, texas will see you in court. those are the words today from the governor o. state to the justice department after texas officials put floating barriers in the rio grande river to try to deter migrants from the
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grande. governor abbottsay the barriers deter migrants. rosa flores spoke with the property owner, here's her report. >> we are at the south end of our property. carving along the river. >> reporter: owns a pecan orchard in eagle front, texas, and says her river front property used to be beautiful. >> my husband and i would come out fishing this this area, it's really pretty. >> reporter: but she says the state of texas installed wire blocking her access to her own property by barricading the gates with metal and pools of dirt. >> it looks like a war zone. >> reporter: historically it's been a migrant crossing because the waters of the rio gran de ae low. the buoys are 4 feet in diameter and anchored to the bottom of the rio grande. >> it surprised me that they are just in front of my property.
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>> reporter: her property is in the del rio border patrol sector, the busiest sector on the southern border with more than 24,000 migrant crossings. after mexico's top diplomat complained about the buoys violating two treaties and 80 u.s. democratic lawmakers urged president biden to take legal action against texas. >> it's barbaric treatment. it's extreme cruelty. >> reporter: the justice department did just that. did they deny you water? this as two pregnant migrants who did not wish to show their faces tell cnn they were initially denied water by texas national guard members as they tried to turn themselves into u.s. immigration authorities. >> she says that the texas national guard at first denied her water, and then afterwards, they did give them water but it was one bottle of water for two to three people. >> reporter: law enforcement in airboats circled them, knocking them over after showing them handcuffs for requesting water, the other migrants said. the texas national guard did not respond to cnn's request for
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comment. these accounts come after a texas dps trooper blew the w whistle last week saying texas had treated migrants inhumanely. texas dps now saying the trooper misunderstood orders. >> a member from one of our leadership or supervisor tells a trooper to push back migrants, what that means is to verbally tell them go to a port of entry. >> reporter: the billions of dollars texas is spending to stop illegal immigration, clearly not stopping the migration flow. >> i have seen people die from heatstroke on the property. >> reporter: urbina worries that while the u.s. doj and texas duke it out in court. >> it's very frustrating. >> reporter: migrants and property owners are caught in the middle. >> and rosa flores joins us from eagle pass, texas, so she doesn't have access to her property. does it impact just her or is there wider effect? >> there is a wider effect, but let me set the scene for you,
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anderson, because mher property is where these buoys are. if you take a look, they have a beginning and an end. it's a short strip of buoys, and they're just in front of her property. now, if we pan back over, you'll see that there are gates like this one, like the one you see here, and they're all barricaded. she has 352 acres of land and they are all barricaded like this, so there's concertino wire, a berm of dirt, it's just barricaded. she has no access to her property. here's where the wider impact kicks in, she's leasing her property to u.s. customs and border protection. take a look behind me and you'll see there's some equipment that's been deployed. hand washing stations, porta-potties, those were used to provide water to migrants. in the story we learned this is the busiest border patrol sector right now, and you don't see anybody around me. why is that? well, that's because u.s.
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customs and border protection also doesn't have access to this property so they don't have access to the equipment they have here to make sure that migrants are processed in a humane way. anderson. >> thanks very much. coming up, how the movies, "barbie" and "oppenheimer" shattered expectations and delivered at the box office this weekend. harrrry enten has the numbers. fast. reliable. perfectly orchestrated. the united states postal service. (upbeat music) - [narrator] what if there was a hearing aid that could keep up with you? (notification dings) this is jabra enhance select. 's a smart hearing solution that makes hearing aids more convenient and less expensive. it connects with your phone so you can stream calls and music. with jabra enhance select's premium package, better hearing doesn't have to start in a doctor's office. it starts with a free online hearing test you could take almost anywhere, so you can get your hearing aids custom programed for you and delivered in days.
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big opening weekend at the box office for "barbie" and "oppenheimer ". here in the united states raked in combined $244.4 million, according to box office.com. a big confidence boost for theaters that have been obviously suffering since the covid pandemic. "barbie" came in first earning $162 million. the fantasy focuses on the iconic mattel doll. it's ban long day. the mattel doll. fims from warner brother pictures, fuller disclosure as you might guess, i'm one of the few people that has not seen the film. "oppenheimer" earned $82.4
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million. the bio pic dimes into the famed physicist father of the atomic bomb. more here from harry enten. compared to other opening weekends. i read it was the fourth biggest. >> i'm just surprised you haven't seen "barbie". >> i haven't gone to a theeter in a long time. >> we'll work on that. yes, it's the fourth-largest-ever opening weekend domestic wise. >> that's great. >> that's huge. >> absolutely fantastic. >> theaters are desperate. >> theaters are desperate. back pre-pandemic still down 20%. we need weekends like this -- >> you say we, are you a theater owner? >> i'm not a theater owner. >> i'm an enthusiast. maybe one day things i want to achieve is opening up my own theater maybe you would then come to see the movie. more than that, it's the number one box office weekend when you take away those films like the
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avengers and star wars, franchises. so what's amazing here, these are really original films that were able to get the box office very large. more than that, "barbie" is the number one movie ever opening weekend directed by a woman. so, we're breaking ground in a lot of different ways. >> here is the we again. you also have data that -- >> i'm part of the people. >> i'm part of the people breaking ground. no, that's good. you're a ground breaker. you also have data that reflects where people loved it. >> yeah. what's really interesting there's been this map making its way around social media. i looked it up and it's actually true. "barbie" searches, top states relative to oppenheimer are actually states that look an awful bit like the electoral map from 2020 with "barbie" highest searches in red states relative to blue. 20 of the top 25 states were states that donald trump won. and i wonder why this is occurring. i have two theories of the case.
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one it could just be there are surprisingly a lot of barbie fans in red states. magic mike back from last decade, a lot of republicans necessarily liked, actually performed best in red states. the other thing i'll note is that maybe it's the fact that this backlash, a lot of republicans are looking at up in red states. >> what's been the verdict on each one in terms of which one of them was greatest. >> you can't lose, anderson. you can't lose. >> i heard both were really good w. they're both really good. rotten tomato scores 90% plus on both of them. >> wow. >> fantastic for them. maybe you and i should see them and have carb on the side with a little popcorn. >> thank you so much. we'll be right back. off the l. or more. that's why farmers new car replacement pays toto replace it with a new one of thehe same make and model. get a whole lot of s something with farmers policy perks. ♪ farmers mnemonic ♪
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