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good evening tonight on 360. did the former president once praised election security? weeks before he began attacking

run up to the election. also tonight mitt romney issuing a warning and a timeline for pulling republican primary candidates to get out of the race to save the party from a trump nomination. and the latest on the alleged gilgo killer. a woman who said he went on a date with him and survived. good evening, we begin with new information about special counsel jack smith is keen interest in a 2020 oval office that has not been previously reported on. the meeting took place in february, 2020. in attendance were the former president, senior u.s. officials and white house staff. sources tell cnn that smith is focused on comments the former president made during this meeting about the state of u. s. election security and how those private remarks may differ from the baseless lies he would start publicly spreading about election fraud in the coming weeks. legal analysts suggest that one hurdle smith has to overcome in a potential adamant for the president to overturn the election, is whether he can knew the president knew he actually lost.

it's been eight days since the president and four moves a target in the investigation. possible indictment could come as soon as tomorrow in the grand jury meets again. he meant perez our corresponded we'll break this story joins us. what more have you learned? >> well anderson, this is a meeting that happened in the february, 2020 in the former president was encouraging some of his officials, people from the homeland security department and the fbi, to go out into the public what a great work they had done to secure the 2020 election. he was very proud of the work they said they had done. he said you should go out and do a public press conference to try to tell the public about this. of course, within weeks the former president began talking about his concerns that the 2020 vote would be the subject of fraud. that there would be interference in the election, including because democrats were using mail-in ballots.

we know anderson that once the former president realized that he had not won the election, once he did not like the election results, he quickly abandoned all those experts who had stood with him obviously, and we're starting to list other people. people who were telling that the election had been interfered with by venezuela by, china, and by italian satellites, all of which, of course which was false. >> what is this meeting mean for jack smith's investigation? >> one of things you pointed out, for jack smith and his prosecution team will be trying to decipher what the former president actually believed. did he actually think there was fraud? did he think that this election have been interfered with by venezuela or the chinese satellites? that is one of the key things for prosecutors to cross the hurdle and certainly they bring a case if they against the former president. so we expect one of the questions we understand witnesses were asked, the prosecutors seem very much

focused on that. the former presidents state of mind. whether he actually believed these bogus claims or did he believe these experts? that the election was at the homeland security department said the most secure in u.s. history. >> there is also new reporting of thousands of documents regarding julie rudy giuliani turned over the special counsel. >> we define a gun into the hands of the special counsel team yesterday on sunday. that is the former police commissioner of new york, he had been working alongside rudy giuliani trying to come up with some of the proof that they were looking for, that there was actually this fraud, that there were actually fraud in the election. now we know that thousands of pages of documents, things like witness statements and research, kerik and his team had prepared for giuliani and some of the former presidents allies. all of that now is in the hands of the special counsel. again, they had not had access to this, this is something that

the january 6th committee and congress had asked for and did not receive. and so, anderson one of the things we're trying to figure out as we wait for the grand jury to reconvene tomorrow and certainly on thursday is whether this batch of new documents, thousands of pages, is something that puts off their work, are finally completing their work by sometime, or whether this is something that perhaps they already have enough evidence that they are ready to go forward with an indictment. anderson? evan perez, we appreciate it. now the former u.s. assistant to attorney, and author of untouchable, how powerful people get away with it. how does the former president or the president the time praising election security, how does that interest jack smith? >> >> so this case anderson for prosecutors is going to be all about proving criminal intent. in fact, proving what donald trump did is not gonna be that tough, because a lot of what was done on publicly, a lot of it was captured on audio videotape. what you have to prove in this is the hardest part, that

donald trump knew what he was doing knew what he was asking for was fraudulent, was false. as a prosecutor, this is a great starting point to make that argument. you say ultimately to a jury, look here is. he's getting advice from the best election security experts in the world, in his own and ministration and not only is expecting it accepting it, is celebrating. it later on he would order that, he acknowledged certain witnesses, mark milley, alyssa farah, that knew he knew he lost the election, and there are reliable people telling him that he lost the election. >> couldn't someone who believe the former president look at it and say well doesn't this show that he was concerned about election security and generally interest in election security? >> there will always be a defense, there always be another side of it. i think trump's team will look at it and say this will prove that he was very hands on, very concerned about election security. later on when some of his advisers, rudy giuliani, sydney powell and others, told him

that there were fraud, and when he was reaching into georgia and other states, he was simply trying to act on that information. now who would say who would trust rudy or sydney powell. he would say, you can say i was wrong, but that's not criminal, you can see was. fraud although there is never any actual evidence that showed fraud and court ruled that time and time again. >> exactly, that gets to the second story that everyone is talking about, that the only evidence that was ever -- was nonsense. these documents that drew giuliani put together that amount to nothing and it was all really a pretext. and, our prosecutors would argue he had criminal intent, and hence it would fraud. >> it does give a sense that jack smith, we all knew about the oval office meeting, and we all knew because of the cnn and others reporting, that jack smith was looking at one oval office meeting. but it certainly looks as if he is looking far back into the history time machine. >> this is yet another

indication that jack smith is looking at this case as a long-lasting, broadbased conspiracy. in fact, the events of january six, 2021 itself seemed to me like they are going to be maybe a final chapter or postscript, about the conspiracy, i think jack smith will argue, goes back well before the election that donald trump had it in his head for months before the election that, win or lose, and he lost, he was still going to claim that there was fraud and that was really the conspiracy in action for many, many months before this. >> i mean, you've said in the past that this is a hard case to bring. >> i do think it is a difficult case. first off, no one, don't ever believe anyone who says this is a smoking gun, this is a slam dunk case. especially when you get into issues of attend, like you're talking about here. it's not just to have the better of the argument, prosecutors have to prove their case beyond a reasonable doubt. and then, on top of that, donald trump is a polarizing figure. if this case goes to trial, it will either be near the 2024 election, maybe after the 2024 election, if he loses you've got to get all 12 jurors to

convict. so i think that this is a worthy case based on what we know, i think it is a justifiable case, a righteous case, but it is not an easy case. >> elie honig, thank you so much. despite the former presidents multiple eagle issues, two new polls from fox business show they are not stopping as political momentum in iowa. 46% of the likely voters prefer the former president, 46%. that is 30 points above ron desantis, tim scott is the only other candidate in double digits is at 11. in south carolina the former president's at 48%, ahead of nikki haley after -- 14%. desantis has 14%, and scott is a 10%. to note that both polls were conducted on july 15th to the 19th, as a former president announced he had received in the target letter from the doj on the 18th. this afternoon, mitt romney published a new op-ed in the wall street journal, the headline reads donors don't fund a trump plurality, and --

nudged them towards the exit when it becomes apparent they can't win the nomination. according to center romney quote, left of their own inclination, 70 of the container stay in the race, it will split the non-trump vote giving in the prize of plurality is all this needed for winner take all primaries. joining me now by two senior commentators, adam kings unger who served on the -- and it axelrod, former senior adviser to president obama. trump obviously has a commanding lead in two primary states. does it appear that his legal troubles amount to much for his supporters in those states? do you think another indictment from the special counsel makes a difference? >> no, i think look, every indictment, every legal issue makes it less likely that donald trump runs the presidency, because certainly i think independents it, will drive turnout from the for the democrat, and make the press

turnout for the republicans. but it's a sign of your fealty to republicanism if you just want to own the libs. and owning the libs means amna put donald trump in despite this. there's obviously this information warfare out there from a party of other networks, just saying this is one big attack by the deep state against donald trump. so i don't know at this one strengthens him per se, i don't think it's gonna hurt him. but i do think when it comes to the general election and makes it again thankfully, foreigners likely he will win. >> david, senator romney certainly seems to be making a sensible point if one is republican and you don't want trump to be elected, is he right? should certain gop candidates trumpet when their paths become impossible? >> you know, the problem is that you have to have someone to run against trump. people have to coalesce around the candidate and no one has at this juncture showing them selves to be that strong

candidate to take trump on. look, the bottom line is half the republican electorate or more want donald trump. half the republican electorate or more despite what adam just said, and i agree with him, believe that trump would be the strongest candidate. those are the facts. i have enormous respect for senator romney, and a lot of my friends who say similar things but they have a lot of a hard time coming to grips with this republican party is not their republican party. this republican party is not the party that mitt romney ran in even in 2012. this is donald trump's party. right now, he is in command, and every one of these indictments is a certification that he is taking on the deep state. he is taking on the establishment and this is their revenge. people are lining up and they are lining up behind him.

he has a larger league now than when the indictments began. >> congress men, in the desantis campaign, they're pivoting towards a leaner and meaner operation after obviously failing to gain traction in the early polling. did the governor miscalculate by leaning so hard into the culture war issues right out of the gate? was not being lean and mean the issue? >> i think his issue was thinking and i think his plan was, donald trump will be indicted, this is what he was hoping, he will naturally through miracles and unicorns and a man and a white horse that doesn't exist be kind of taken out of the race. and desantis is trump like, his younger version of donald trump. that was his play. it's not working because if you want donald trump, guess what you're gonna vote for donald trump. desantis i think he's doa in this election. i think this is just a wag, a wild guess, but i think the only people that have a shot besides donald trump, potentially ten scott. tim scott has always been the kind of guy who i think really could surprise people, similar

to bill clinton in 1992. nobody had heard about him a little bit. chris christie actually have a shot if there is a widespread kind of understanding that donald trump is utterly unfit for office and he's been the one who's really taken donald trump head on. it's a very small path of course. i think it's people like that who have a shot. this is donald trump's campaign, this is donald trump's race. he's probably going to win this primary. that doesn't mean, by the way other republicans listening to this stay on top of this, trying to save the party. because it's a noble fight, and frankly the republican party will burn down in the general election in 2024 if in fact it is donald trump, and that's when you can rebuild. >> david, what about your take on this, is desantis doa in this, and when you think about tim scott or chris christie, is there anybody else?

>> there are several -- i've never really bought the desantis thing for a number of reasons. if you have a choice between a replica, a new and improved maga trump kind of guy. people want the real thing. they have made that clear. they don't want to new and improved products. >> no one liked new coke when it came? >> exactly, he is the new coke of the republican party right now. the second element is, his one critique of trump is that he is a loser, but he won't even acknowledge that trump lost. i don't think that is lost on people. he's coming across as a politician and trump's supporters don't view him as a politician. they view him as an anti politician. if you him as a leader of a movement, and it's hard to be a conventional politician. by the way, he announced that he is going to do this reboot and he's going to become leaning at a meeting of his high dollar donors in utah. that's exactly what the people

who have questions about desantis fear, is that he is actually the establishments candidate to take out trump. one thing anderson, i want to say, have heard a lot of republicans including tim scott in the last few days, when the latest indictment letter, when the target letter went out they, said i was at the capitol, and donald trump wasn't there. he didn't provoke this, it was the people who came. i don't think that this is what this indictment is gonna be about, i don't think they're gonna be indict him for provoking the riot and insurrection at the capital. they are going to indict him for months and months of scheming and plotting to overturn an election. and when the facts of that come out they're gonna have to reboot and i don't know how they're gonna explain it. you know? >> they can also just pretend like they've been pretending like they never said it or just move on. how tompkins year. >> and show up at the convention where they nominate donald trump. >> thanks very much. coming up next. breaking up news on what was found that ukraine zaporizhzhia

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sources for the u.s. atomic energy say they've discovered mines at the zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant. they say they were anti personnel mines on the periphery of the site. the plan is currently occupied by russia forces. now the announcement comes as the southern city port of odessa is being hit almost nightly by russian attacks. cnn heard air raid sirens go off on the ground in odessa. on sunday, a russian missile hit a historic cathedral in odessa and other buildings. they say now that the cathedral is structurally sound. this morning, ukrainian officials confirmed they had carried out drone attacks onto nonresidential buildings in moscow. one of the buildings was located near the defense ministry in moscow. alex marquardt has a report from odessa. alex, what more do we know with these mines in zaporizhzhia?

>> well anderson, this operation nuclear power plant is the biggest in europe and anytime you hear the word explosives along nuclear power plant that's never a good thing. we are hearing from rafa grosso who is the head of i-80 said his experts were at the plant on sunday. they did spot these mines which had been talked about including presidents lewinsky. these were anti personnel mines were designed to maine, hurt kill people. they are pointing away from the plant we are told. obviously that doesn't give any kind of comfort to the iaea and in a statement they stated the obvious that goes against the safety standards in nuclear security guidance of the agency. they do know that they were told that this was a military decision in an area controlled by the military as you noted. this is the russian military that controls this area. president zelenskyy had warned that this area had been mine, and he also warned anderson that russia may carry out some provocative action and try to blame it on ukraine. anderson? >> what's been going on in odessa?

>> well this has been a week now since these incredible attacks. we see almost nightly. very intense both in the city and in the region. tonight, we did hear irate silence. there was a morning perhaps but maybe drones might be on the way to the city. that was eventually called often since then has been relatively calm. we have seen incredible levels of destruction, primarily in the city center, that is a unesco world heritage site, a cathedral was severely damaged, probably got the most damage in the city. we were there for hours there earlier today, we saw the windows blown out in the dome. we saw the alter that have been very badly damaged. the corner of the cathedral where a rocket is gone in and gone down two floors. it was pretty bad and it was one of the 25 architectural monuments we are told by a military official that was damaged in a strike on sunday. and then today early in the morning, there were drone strikes against a port far west in the odessa province on the danube river right up against

the border with romania. not only were they targeting a grain storage facility, continuing to go after these grain and food facilities, but anderson this was the strike that was closest to a nato country by russia's military since this war began. these drone striking inside just hundreds of yards from the romanian border, which of course is a nato member. >> what about the drone strikes in moscow? >> well, we understand that there were two strikes, two drones that were flown into moscow,. ukrainian drones, ukraine very quickly claiming responsibility in that raises the question of whether this was part of the retaliation that president zelenskyy had promised, that russia would feel because of all these strikes they had been carrying out here in odessa. it didn't cause that much damage, certainly last damage that we have seen here in odessa. but they were suppressed according to russian

authorities, taken down by electronic jamming. a hit what russian authorities called nonresidential buildings. one of them hitting an area with some extremely sensitive buildings. ministry of defense complex where there are a number of different offices for the russian military, including one sub unit that carries its cyber operations for the gru which is military intelligence. >> alex marquardt, in odessa, thank you very much. i'm joined by former cia jeff steve holt. what he was most notable about the drone attacks in moscow near the defense ministry? >> the drone attacks are quite interesting anderson. obviously the ministry of defense inside russia certainly obvious target for the ukrainians, especially if they want to send a message. that's right on what they say is on the moscow river. it's not just one building, there's a cluster of buildings, as alex was alluding to. there is some gru activity as

my understanding is that the drone got to within half a block of the main administrative building in the south of moscow. the second one a little further outside what they are referring to is the mbk, which is on the outskirts of moscow, it's in the southwestern region, but it's only a few miles away from a place which is the head of the espy our headquarters, near moscow. so unclear whether or not that was a target in a. but the interesting part of this is i think the ukrainians now claiming responsibility and in their view my view, they're trying to encourage i suppose the russian people to say, this is now at our doorstep, the war is here, we have to do something about this. maybe it has to do with complaining to the government or getting rid of the government. of course it's possible the russians might also say it's at our doorstep, we need to fight harder. it's interesting to see the reaction of the russian people as these direct attacks on moscow continue which i think they will. >> is it clear to you if these drones are being flown from ukrainian territory or if they are being launched from inside russia itself or in moscow?

>> that's asking the right question anderson, because i think a lot of it depends on the type of drone. when many of us here in the united states or western countries think of drones, we think of a little photograph of a drone that has little propellers. those in need to be really close by to control those things. so if you are talking about a smaller drone like that, you have to have somebody closer buyback, if you talk about some of these drones like for example the randy was that the russians using, those can be controlled from much further away. i think a lot remains to be determined as to what type of drone, whether they had explosives, and most importantly as you asked, where they are being control. from >> steve holt, appreciate thank you. we want to show you images from israel. hundreds of thousands protesting against a significant shakeups of the country's legal system since the founding. first a series of bills meant to shape its country's judiciary passed today. it strips israeli supreme court about -- bill passed six months of

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just in tonight. investigators on the gilgo beach serial murder case were seen taking boxes from the suspect's home. earlier they searched his yard using canine and ground penetrating radar. authorities are also looking to his properties in south carolina and nevada. rex heuermann charged with murders and three of the gilgo 4 and also in the disappearance and killing of the fourth woman. but he hasn't been charged in that case. now the where gilgo 4 were a group of women whose remains were found along gilgo beach. he is not he's pleaded not guilty exceed me in the killing. i earlier spoke with hair and makeup artist nikki brass. she said she went out on a date with him in the summer of 2015. >> how did you first encounter

the man you believe to be the gilgo killer? >> i didn't believe it was him. i am convinced i'm 1000 percent sure. >> this guy reaches out to you. did he say immediately he wanted you to come to his house? >> yes, but the issue was he was in nassau county and he was in massapequa, and i'm not familiar with the area i'm very locationally challenged. i need a gps to go home and i could live there for five years. i'm bad. i didn't have friends nearby in case anything happened, so i asked him if if he would meet me at a steam room, in port jeff, it's a small room. >> it's a? restaurant >> it's a small town, and near the area i have friends locally that if something were to go wrong they could be there quickly.

>> you meet with him at the restaurant in port jefferson. >> before i minimize a chuck e. cheese with my sister. i had said to her, i showed her picture, and i said, hey this is who i am going out with tonight. if anything happens, this is what he looks like, and i would do that for every time i did it just for my own safety. >> i think i jumped ahead. so, he reached out for you you asked him for a picture? >> yeah, because i said i wanted to know who i was looking for. i did want to show up at a restaurant and, who is here nor to me? >> you show the picture to or your sister and gave her the picture. >> i didn't give it to her, i showed her on my phone, and said this is his i'm going to be with, so you know what he looks like and what is. at the time used fake name so i couldn't give her a name. then we met. we didn't meet in front of his car or were i could've got a play or description of it. we met directly in front of the restaurant. >> what did you think when you

first met? >> oh my god, he's massive! at the time i was 24 years old. i was 120, hundred 130 pounds. hadn't had kids yet. he was a gigantic man. i had to look up at him, gigantic. it wasn't just his height. it was his weight, it was everything. he was just this huge, very like overbearing type of weight. he almost carried his weight to intimidate. >> and what was he like when you were sitting across the table from him? >> so, before we sat down, he shook my hand, which i had to say, there is no reason to have a handshake that firm. >> he had a really strong handshake? >> i get that firm handshake to show confidence, you know what i mean? but his was like -- >> like aggressive >> like aggressive grip, you know what i mean. other than a seemed normal.

he told me first of all when we sat down, i said hi, it's nice to meet you, my real name is nikki. and he just said rex. he didn't give me a last name or anything. we sat down, he seemed perfectly normal at first. they seem like your typical guy who was bored with his life, and wanted some kind of excitement. you know what i mean? it didn't get weird until he asked if i was a true crime fan. >> he asked me if i was a ture crime fan? >> and i am. i am a serial killer buff. i won't even lie. it was when he said, well do you know about the gilgo beach murders? >> he actually brought? a. >> yes, he asked me if do you know about the gilgo beach murders? yeah from what i know, everyone from long island knows about the mean or any?

and that's when he started talking about it. but here's the thing. when he brought it up, his whole demeanor changed. he sat up straighter, he had a smirk on his face, he seemed almost like too excited to talk about it, and then once he did start talking about it, it didn't seem like a true crime fan who just knows information you just in a tv or read, it seem like somebody was reliving it. one thing i remember specifically was he said to me, how do you think they get rid of the bodies without going unnoticed? i said, i have no clue, i've never been to gilgo beach, i don't know the access plans, i couldn't tell you anything about it i couldn't tell you.

what if they drug them through the marsh with the burlap sacks, you would never see them? he said it's, a very dark and desolate area. >> what happened that day? you decide at some point this is not a good idea? >> so, after he started talking about everything he ended it with saying, oh i live by gilgo beach. >> are you kidding? >> i am not. after telling me all this, he's just telling me you live near gilgo beach and it's dark and it's desolate. so that weird. >> and that's where he wanted you to go? near gilgo beach? >> one, i wouldn't go with him, that's where he started seeing visually very agitated, almost like a put in all this work, i came out to suffolk, i took it a dinner, why are you not going back with me? like almost i owed it to him, and that's when even always seemed agitated, he used his weight and size to try to intimidate me even more. >> thank goodness you didn't. >> i was terrified. i called someone to meet me in the parking lot to make sure i

got to my car okay. >> when you saw the news break, and you saw his picture -- >> i am immediately texted my little sister told her to go look at the news. and said i, was right, i knew it. because after that dinner, for years, i am telling you, years, i told everybody, i'm telling you i went to dinner with the gilgo beach killer. i know it's him, i went to dinner with him. i mean, when he got arrested, my sister recognized him. but not on that, it's hard to forget someone who's six foot six, 300 pounds, who's an architect in manhattan, and lives in massapequa. those are very specific details. >> when he saw his image that once the news broke, you are like 1000 percent, that is the guy? >> i am so sure, i could sit across from him today and i would be like i know you remember me.

and if he tries to say you don't, you're lying. i know he knows who i am. this is important. >> this is, important barely life is changed a lot since then. >> yes, that's why i came out. i don't want to drag my whole history through the mud, but everybody knows i'm a former escort or i suffered from addiction or this and that. i want people to realize that i am a mom and a hairstylist and makeup artist, and that i was able to change my life. and these girls weren't. they didn't get the opportunity to get out of that situation. and most people in that situation are vulnerable and desperate and have no other means or outlet or ways to go. >> and that's one reason perhaps he was targeting you? >> yeah. i think he targeted women that were less likely to go to the police, and it's another reason i'm coming forward, because i feel like there are women out there who probably had a lot more of a dangerous encounter within that i did, and got away,

who are too scared to talk about it. >> nikki, i wish you the best, thank you so much for talking. >> thank you for having me welcome. >> still ahead tonight. texas will see you in court, those words today from the governor to the justice department, after texas put floating barriers in the rio grande river to try to deter migrants from crossing the border. we talk to one property owner who says she's impacted by it all.

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like new developments in a legal fight between texas and the justice department. the doj is now suing the state after texas governor grab that refused to remove floating barriers from the rio grande. he says that they determinants from crossing over the state but the department of justice alleges that it's violating federal law. we spoke with the property owner who's been impacted by the states efforts to ward off migrants. rosa flores has the report. >> we are at the south end of our property driving along the river >> she owns an orchard in eagle pass, texas and says her property used to be beautiful. >> my husband and i would come out fishing, in this area it's really pretty >> but she says the state of texas installed concertina wire blocking actors to own property with piles of

metal and dirt. >> historically it's been a prop popular migrant crossing because a wall of the rio grande are low. and most recently texas is employed a floating border barrier without obtaining permits by the federal government. the buoys are four feet in diameter and anchored to the bottom of the rio grande. >> it surprised me that they did it just in front of my property. >> properties need del rio border patrol sector, the busiest sector on the border last month, with more than 24,000 migrant crossings. after mexico's top diplomat met complain about the buoys -- and they urged president biden to take legal action against texas. >> it's barbaric treatment, extreme cruelty. >> the justice department did just that. >> they deny them water. >> they say these two pregnant migrants who do not wish to see the show their faces told cnn they were initially denied water by texas national guard matters as they tried to turn themselves into authorities. >> she said that they were denied water, and then afterwards they did give them a

lot of but as one bottle of water 4 to 3 people. >> law enforcement in airboats circling knocking them over after showing them handcuffs for requesting water, the other migrants said. the texas national guard did not respond to cnn's request for comment. these accounts come after a texas gps trooper blew the whistle last week saying texas have been treating migrants inhumanely, when troopers were ordered to push matters back into the river and deny them water. texas dps announcing the trooper misunderstood. orders >> never does an authority tell them to push back migrants. what it means to verbally tell them to go back to a port of entry. the bill >> the billions of dollars texas is spending on two -- >> i have people seen die from heatstroke on the property. >> while the e u.s. doj and mexico duke it out in cork. >> it's very frustrating. >> migrants and property owners

are caught in the middle. >> rosa flores joins us now from eagle pass, texas. so she doesn't have access to a property. does it impact her or is there a wider effect? >> there is a wider effect, but let me set the scene for you anderson, because her property is where these buoys are. you can see, take a look, they have a beginning and an end. but the short strip of buoys and, they are just in front of her property. now if we pan back over, you will see that there are gates like this one, like the one you see here. they are all barricaded. she is 352 acres of land, and they're all barricaded like this. so there is concertina water wire, there's also dirt, you can tell that is just barricaded. she has no access to her property. but here where is where the wider impact kicks in. she's actually leasing her property to u.s. customs and border protection. take a look behind, we'll see that there's cool equipment that has been deployed. it's handwashing stations, porta-potties, tense, they were

used to provide first aid, to provide water to migrants. now in that story anderson, we have learned that this is the busiest border patrol sector right now, and you don't see anybody around me. why is? that that's because u.s. border and customs protection also does not access to this property, so they don't have access to the equipment that they have here to make sure that migrants are processed any humane way. anderson? >> rosa flores, thanks very much. coming up, how the movies oppenheimer and barbie shatter box office expectations this weekend. harry enten breaks down the numbers. network... ...with smarter, more efficient routes... ...so you can deliver more value to your customers. fast. reliable. perfectly orchestrated. the united states postal service.

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big opening week at the mob box office with oppenheimer, a combined $244 million worth of fox office.com. big confidence booster theaters which had been suffering since the pandemic. barbie came in first with 100 and $62 million.

the fantasy comedy focuses on the iconic met tell doll, it's been a long day, the mattel doll back in 1959, films from warner bros. pictures filmed by the parent company they've in full disclosure, i'm one of the few people have not seen ethan. the other big draw oppenheimer earned the father of the atomic bomb. harry enten is here with us. compare this opening weekends this was a better was about the fourth biggest? >> i'm just surprised you haven't seen barbie, i'm very disappointed in you. >> i haven't gone to the theater in a long-time. >> we're gonna work on that. yes, it's the fourth largest ever opening weekend domestic wise. >> that's. huge >> absolutely fantastic. >> the theaters are desperate. >> here is a desperate. pre-pandemic were sold about 20% we, need weekends like this to bring folks back. >> you say we, are you a

theater owner? >> no i'm not a theater owner, iowa and into easiest. maybe one day things i want to potentially achieve is opening up my own seat, only then you would come to see the movie. but even more than that, it's the number one box office weekend when you take away those films like the avengers and star wars, basically these franchises, what's amazing here is these are really a mate original films that were able to get the box office going, and what's more barbies in the number one movie ever opening directed by a woman. we are breaking ground and a lot of different ways here. >> you also, you are part of the people breaking into. you are a ground breaker >> what's really interesting, there has been this map that's been making its way around social media, and i looked, up and it's actually. true favre researches -- relative to oppenheimer, are actually states that look an awful bit like the electoral map from 2020, with barbie

having its highest searches in red states, relative to blue, 20 of the top 25 states were actually states that donald trump, one and i wonder why this is occurring? i have 2 theories of the case. one it could be they are surprisingly a lot of barbie fans in red states, magic mike, back from last, decade which i don't think a lot of republicans liked, actually performed best in red states. the other thing i note is that, maybe it's the fact that this backlash, a lot of republicans are looking at up in red -- states. >> what has been the verdict on each one in terms of which one of them was the greatest? >> you can't lose anderson. you cannot lose. >> i heard both were really good. >> they were both really, good both rotten tomatoes as 90%, plus fantastic, movies maybe you and i should, see it and you can break your, street and maybe even have a little carb on the side with popcorn. >> maybe, so thank you so much. we'll be right back.

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