sara sidner, welcome to cnn tonight. the grand jury investigating donald trump and his allies were -- efforts to up and joe biden's election victory, is expected to meet again tomorrow cnn exclusively learning prosecutors are asking witnesses about a never before revealed oval office meeting in february 2022. what donald trump praised election security protections. then just a few weeks later started spreading false voter fraud conspiracy theory. what else has jack smith learned? and will it lead to trump's third indictment? that's tomorrow's news, tonight. also ahead for you, a momentous time in u.s. history, finally getting its due. president joe biden is expected to sign a proclamation establishing a national honorment to emmett till and his mother, on what would have been his 82nd birthday. he was captured and tortured and

murdered at the age of 14. his death shocked america. it helped fuel the civil rights movement. when his mother insisted on an open casket funeral to let everyone know what hatred and racism can do. what it means to the till family. and driving while black. an unarmed black driver, attacked by a police dog, even though he had his hands up and was surrendering. i want to warn you, the video is disturbing and difficult to watch. >> do not release the dog with his hands up. do not release the dog. with his hands up. don't. do not. do not. get the dog off of him. get the dog off of him.

>> we'll have much more on that disturbing video and what happened ahead. let's begin with tomorrow's news tonight. the grand jury and jack smith's investigation is expected to meet tomorrow, as we learn about the oval office meeting where donald trump praised election security. here to talk about this, former white house lawyer, james schultz and karen. cnn's exclulsive reporting. that trump was praising the election security in that oval office meeting. suggesting the fbi and the department of homeland security hold a press conference and talk about it. what can prosecutors glean from this? he said it was a fraudulent election. >> they are looking for every shred of evidence that can

establish that donald trump believed it was a fair election. and that the claims of the election stolen were bogus. they're going to have meetings before and after the election. documents he may have seen, to lawsuits that may have gone on. they are look at every shred of evidence, that he thought in his mind, that the election were stolen and that he was making up the fact that the election was stolen. >> okay. >> they're looking at all of this evidence. trump did criticize election security in the months that followed. i want people to listen to some of what he said. >> i don't want to be a crooked election. this election will be the most rigged in history. it will be fraudulent.

there is fraud all over the place. i've been complaining about the ballots. the ballots are a disaster. >> that was september 2020, before the election happened. there was an idea, that he was getting people to the fact that this is rigged. after, he went on and on. can trump change his mind? can they argue in the defense? he changed some things and learned some things, and he believes he didn't lose. >> at the end of the day, whether he believed it or not, it will be helpful information. even if he did believe in his mind that he won, despite all of the evidence that i'm sure jack smith will show, even if it says he does believe it. it didn't give him the right to

interfere with election. to disenfranchise 80 million voters who cast a valid vote for joe biden. and trump just didn't like the result. and so s, he doesn't have a rig. that's the foundation of our democracy. you win or lose and accept the consequences of that. what he believed at the end of the day, i think jack smith can prove yonbeyond a reasonable do. >> he believed. we are learning that the special counsel got thousands of docu documents turned over. this was rudy giuliani trying to

find voter fraud. what do you think jack smith is zeroing in on on that part of the case? >> if you recall, they were doing investigations to bring lawsuits, in particular states. states like pennsylvania, my home state,to overturn -- to attempt to overturn the election based on voter fraud. that information, they resulted on the cases getting tossed out almost immediately, for lack of any evidence. that is evidence they can use against the former president in his case, he was trying to overturn the outcome of a valid election. and, two, he knew what he was up to. >> thatti makes sense. there's several people we expect to testify, including bernie

kerik. does that mean we're a month away from whether or not donald trump is indicted? can you continue to do this after indicting him? >> we don't know what is happening. everything that happens by law is secret. the answer is, yes. we don't know if it's a sweeping indictment or not. mark meadows, rudy giuliani, there's lots of people that were part of the conspiracy. jack smith might bring the multiple indictment or the three crimes listed in the target letter. there's multiple investigations going on. it could be a limited discreet indictment for donald trump for the conduct on january 6th and the months before and the

contact after. all of the things we talked about. continuing investigation in the grand jury, for other individuals other crimes. other potential defendants. potentially other charges against donald trump. yes, that doesn't mean we have to wait for an indictment. >> interesting it can continue to go along. you don't know how far it is going. we know rudy giuliani says he has not gotten a target letter. no one else has gotten a target letter. what does that tell you? >> they were putting the former president on notice. they were zeroing in on him, in this kacase. we don't know if anyone has received a target better. those folks may be cooperating.

there's a lot of things we don't know because of the secrecy of the grand jury. it's plausible. they didn't have the facts locked down. we saw the compelling indictment. the former president caught on type. those are the things you need to bring a case like this against a former sitting president. >> it could be huge. if it is a big case, it could take a long time to try, could it not? >> yes. absolutely. it probably would not happen before the election, if this is the big, sweeping, huge case.

every defendant has the motion they want to make. some issues apply to one and notteers. we might see a limited, discreet case and charges coming down. >> can they keep it limited and say the grand jury also found this, this? >> it depends. yes, can same conduct and the same incidents should be brought together. >> karen, jim, thank you both so much for your analysis here. it is very interesting, as tomorrow, the grand jury meets again, as we understand it. let's talk about this with senior political commentator, scott jennings.

and mark mckinnon. i'm going to start with you. the grand jury is expected to meet. howdy. it's eight day since donald trump got his target letter from the special counsel. and trump's rivals are not going for the jugular, expect for chris christie. how does it help them in the primaries? >> it doesn't. they are afraid of turning off trump's base. add it up any way you want to. but it's a significant part of the voters. their fear is they will turn off the voters that elect for them in the primary. >> as strong as he is, a lot of this is about defending their

guy. as soon as we see enough public polling overtime, they will see he will be a loser as the nominee. >> scott, do you agree? >> i do, actually. what the other candidates are hoping for, is eventually, the weight of this drags trump down to where voters say, i love the guy, i love everything he did. i don't want to do it again. they think not alienatiing trump's voters today, they can do that. this is a lot of hope and prayers that things fall your way that you don't have control over. we know indictments may come

some time. we haven't seen the charges. we don't have the evidence. on the documents case, some got out there. they had to roll back what they initially said. my advice to a campaign will be to keep your powder as dry as possible before you see what's in there. if you're running a presidential campaign, you don't want to comment on something. >> last night, trump lashed out again. writing, we're in the middle of a campaign for president of the united states. why did they bring the ridiculous charges years before? why did they wait to bring them now? a vinrtually unheard of disconduct. we've seen that before.

what do you think about this? is this him doing the thing he does? fight back no matter what the evidence is against him. >> this is the first time i've heard anybody, including donald trump, suggesting this has been slow-rolled. we have four different prosecutors going after him. this is a unique view that donald trump laid out there, because of polling is affecting the timing on this. you know, i would say that prior to this, the criticism has been there's been too much prosecution, too soon. >> scott, i wonder if donald trump has a point in that, he knows that the timing of it is really important.

because it needs to be before the election. is that how he is trying to spin this? >> as long as this is fragmented and you have half of the party that doesn't want to do trump again, this is the glue that keeps them together. winning the election is his legal defense. the campaign is the defense. ooze long as there's no consolidation in the field, getting his group to peel off of him, and there's no evidence there are. mitt romney has an op-ed i"t

wall street journal," where he says, there's so many people in the field, they will make it so it is impossible for anyone to win but trump. that's the gist of what you're seeing on your screen. is he correct? we'll start with you, mark. >> he is correct theoretically but wrong. it will never happen. >> he's right. getting a bunch of rich donors to agree on anything, virtual impossible. he's right, but man. >> thank you for that robust conversation. appreciate you. >> thank you. the israeli government passed a controversial law that's dividing the country and flooding the streets with protesters. we'll have a report from jerusalem as to what is going on. art bed is now only $899.

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major developments out of israel tonight. a newly passed law is sparking outrage throughout the country, with tens of thousands to take to the streets to protest for and against the legislation that curtails the supreme court's power to block government decisions and check netanyahu's power, as well. let's go to fred pleitgen, who was living in jerusalem. i don't remember seeing crowds this large standing out and standing up for what they believe in.

especially against the israeli government. what is this all about? what are you expecting tomorrow? >> you're right. there's a lot of israelis who believe that democracy is in country is under a threat. they think the law passed today and the flurry of other laws that the government wants to pass, as well. it is supposed to curtail the powers of the supreme court. and then make it easier for the government to change the makeup of the supreme court in this country, as well. they believe that goes to the mo fundamentals of the democracy. we saw tens of thousands turning out.

they say they feel they could be in trouble. for a lot of people, this goes to the core of what israel is. >> it's an unusual moment in israel's history. you're saying that 10,000 refuse to serve in the military. men and women are required to serve as israelis. how can that have an impact on israeli security? >> massive impact. this is a dangerous detail for israel's readiness. he said, of course, if there's a big war and israel is attacked,

everyone will show up. in the same way, are people coming out to defend a country that they don't feel is right. that's an issue. the service members were hrippe into my netanyahu and other politicians are calling on people to show up for service. today at the protest, the lot of the military, some of them getting in fights with police officers. israelis have been protesting for six months now. why is this happening? what does it mean for the ordinary israeli? >> it could have massive

implications. and moving this country to the right is concerned. many people are concerned that the government of the day, the government in power, could make fundamental changes here in this country, that could impact all of society. one of the things that people need to realize is that israel does not have a written constitution. the security in many ways was the keeper of what this country should be about and the fundamentals. the law passed today is a law that will make it impossible for the supreme court to stop a lot of the legislative measures that the government wants to push there. right now, you have benjamin netanyahu, with prime ministers that will do things that will be detrimental.

>> thank you for breaking that down for us. appreciate your time. thank you to the crew, as well. president biden signed a proclamation establishing a national monument honoring emmett till.

this week, as we saw loud outcry, that the history of slavery is being whitewashed in florida. a claim denied by florida officials and the governor.

there's a move to recognize the impact that one black family had on our world. the president is going to announce a national mon monument to emmett till. two people marched him out of his home, after a woman accused him of rape. when it kachl time for the funeral, mhis mother said she wanted america to see what race iflt hate had done to her son. that was a sipivotal moment tha sparked the civil rights union. un unijoining me now is the president of the foundation, deborah watts. >> thank you for having me.

>> i know you remember this. it was a chance meeting after a weeks' long protest of george floyd by a police officer. can you tell me what this means when you hear there will be reck nation of public spaces of this momentous importance of the tills family and tragedy. >> it's an exciting time. it's one that i think is well overdue. we've been in our own spaces, with cousins and family and people are aware. now, at this level, the highest level of our country. the leader in this country, has decided that these are places

that can be recognized and preserved and protected. that's what's really important. we have nothing but joy, gratitude, towards all of the hard work that's gone in to starting with my family and others. and these organizations are going to make sure this happens. 6 we're excited because we know it's time we have a seat at the table. that our family has a seat at the table. the truth is not retold in a way that it removes the sacrifice of what happened there. we don't want that repeated. we want to make sure we have the

opportunity to sit with those that are making the decisions. there's so many others, too. we'll be traveling to this august on the 68th anniversary of emmitt's murder, to make sure people understand what the places mean on that journey he took. >> you mentioned something, deborah, that is salient for the time we're in now. there's discussion of what's happening with florida's school board. what do you worry about now and in the context of the fact that now, your cousin will be recognized for what happened doing -- even to this day. the march towards civil rights.

we have always understood that that march needs to continue. it's important to have the more authentic voices telling those stories. the witnesses and those that are part of the family and mothers, that's important. we know we'll have to continue doing all of the hard work that we've done before. there's a resistance to the truth. we know the struggle continues. we can't ignore the resistance.

we have the energy behind us. >> can you tell me what you remember? what do you remember about her? all of the things that the family went through. what did you go through? i believe, our family is in awe of her dignity, her courage, and it was her story to tell. i believe she laid this blueprint for all of us to catch. to watch her stand through crowds of people and tell her truth. and moving forward, to justice

for emmet till. i believe, thr a lot of other people, as well, particularly those in the emmett till generation. i think she made some decisions that woke up america. you cannot deny her decision to have an open-casket funeral. being in awe of her. and also, just understanding that her faith pushed her through, as well. and the village provided the opportunities for her to take the platforms and stand in her truth. >> i've seen the mother's pain. any mother can understand what that is. she did it with grace.

also, was a heavywieght for the family so long. thank you fors ss by discussing this with us. i'm sure you will be there. we'll dismuss that when that happens. >> okay. thank you very much. >> thank you so much. now, the disturbing account between a 23-year-old truck driver in ohio and the police canine. what happened when the truck driver dropped with his hands on. hi, i'm sharon, and i lost 52 pounds on golo. on other diets, i could barely lose 10-15 pounds. thanks to golo, i've lost 27% of my body weight, and it was easy.

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tonight, there's growing outrage after the police of body camera footage of a traffic stop that led to a police canine attacking a driver in ohio. i need to warn you this footage is disturbing. it shows an unarmed black driver being mauled by a police dog after dropping to his knees with his hands up. shorts mulled over this truck driver, on july 4th, after a lengthy police cheese, that began with a missing mud flap. he said he thought police were going to kill him. he was slow to pull over. yu hear a man telling the officer not to release the dog. >> i was about to comply with

them. but for whatever reason. >> a newly released 911 call, made by a truck driver, during a lengthy police chase, reveals why he wouldn't exit the vehicle. >> i don't know why they are trying to kill me? >> they aren't trying to kill you. >> they are. >> reporter: officers tried to stop the 23-year-old in a commercial semi truck because of a missing mud flap. >> it's like 20 police cars behind me and i don't feel safe. >> reporter: rose did initially pull over but didn't get out of the truck. instead, continued back on the highway. eventually, rose pulls over. you can hear contradictory verbal commands from the officers. >> come to me. >> on the ground.

>> a trooper is instructing the canine officer. >> do not release the dog with his hands up. >> reporter: despite repeated warnings, the dog is released. and runs towards the officers before turning to rose and attacking him. it's not clear if the canine officer could hear the warning. >> get the dog off him. >> reporter: rose cries out. he's later seen treated by the officers. he was taken to the hospital and released by police. a use of force review board was convened immediate. the president of the naacp columbus branch calls the officers' behavior, barbaric. >> the young people that don't understand the meaning of a dog

being unleashed on a black person. it is history. they were marching for rights in this one. >> reporter: the prosecutor's office tells cnn that rose was released from custody on july 7th. the office is working and to determine whether to move forward with the charge against rose. that charge is failure to comply by an order or signal by a police officer. sara? >> thank you. you heard darius rose he wasn't pulling over because he didn't feel safe. his fears were realized. e want to know what this tells you. we'll get an answer from the both of you after the break. baby, only on game nights. you know you are retired right?

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reason. i don't know why. >> you need to pull over. >> i don't know why they're trying to kill me. >> they are not trying to kill you. >> yes, they are. i don't feel safe with stopping. this was over a mud flap. he may not have known what he was being pulled over. does the dispatcher tell the officers on the ground, this guy is worried he's going to be killed. do they get that? >> they may get some of that. we haven't heard that part. we've arrived in the middle of a bad judgment convention. someone is driving an 18-wheeler, getting pulled over for a mud flap. instead of pulling over, he continues for 35 minutes, at

speeds of 70 something miles per hour. before we start at the end, which is the dog is released and bites him, you have to find out what is going through their minds. when he stops, he takes off again. when we throw down spike strips and disable him, he's slow to follow commands. their minds are racing for what's really going on here? as he is comcomplying, the cani officer releases the dog. and you see somebody saying, don't relesioase the dog. we're hearing him on the body camera. those officers are screaming

different commands at him. there's not one person who has command and control. >> no unwith is in charge. everyone is in charge. it's a mess. as a defense attorney, is there a case for this gentleman, you can hear it all. >> i don't think there's a question there's a case. it's a mud flap. he's not leaving the scene of a crime. i understand, it informs the judgment. at the end of the day, they get compliance. and him calling the police on the police. he did not trust the police officers. what does that say about the state of play right your?

when you have a person that is comp compliant, that he is going to justification for unleashing the dog. you have to justify what you're doing. does it make sense? does it make sense from a common sense perspective? does it make sense at all? i think not. when you have a situation when it's a mud flap. when you have a situation when hands are up. and when you have a person that's not a danger, and other police officers are saying don't do it, it should not have happened. needs to be accountability here. >> something awry. john miller, thank you. >> did i just lose a case to joey jackson at midnight? >> i think you kind of did. >> john miller doesn't lose cases. >> they will not pursue the prosecution -- this is what joey jackson would do. they could not pursue the

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