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and so, watching charlie was something that came naturally just because there was an association there. >> so the name may be changed? >> who knows. that's up to what mr. harris wants, what the ownership group wants and what they can get worked out. >> what does coach want? >> i want the name that fits this team to be the best. >> appreciate the time with him. we're going to have a lot more of our sitdown interview. we talked about a whole lot that's coming up soon. >> i'm looking forward to more of that. there's been so much interest in this team. but also exciting to see them move into this new -- i guess, this new chapter. >> totally new chapter. >> with these new owners what that could mean for the team. >> he's a remarkable leader. more coming up. >> "cnn this morning" continues right now. ♪ another oval office meeting. this time donald trump bragged about election security months
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before attacking election security. >> the special counsel was given thousands of pages of documents related to giuliani. >> winning the election is his legal defense. the campaign is the defense. >> i think it's a just fiable case a righteous case, but it's not an easy case. the international atomic agencydiscovered mines at the zaporizhzhia power plant. >> this one nuclear power plant is being drawn into the heart of the conflict. ♪ the doj is suing the state othe over the float bug wi wall. >> the texas governor says it is ready for a fight in federal court. >> he's not moving forward in good faith. >> political stunts in inhumane way. protests in israel turning violent. israeli lawmakers voted to overhaul the justice system.
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a move critics say is pushing israel towards dictatorship. >> one to restore a measure of balance between authorities. >> they believe it's so important for them to stay out here right now and voice their anger. >> that's not good for israel. it's not good for the united states. frankly, it's not good for the middle east. ♪ a new world weather report says the recent extreme heat would have been, quote, virtually impovl possible without human-induced climate change. >> it's now almost certain that july will be the warmest month that this planet has seen in recorded history. wow. we'll get to the heat, the historic, deadly, dangerous heat in a moment. we have a lot to get to. we're glad with you're with us on this tuesday morning. >> a lot of focus on washington, d.c. the federal grand jury investigating donald trump's efforts to overturn the election is set to meet just hours from now. anticipation is building as the former president faces another
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potential indictment. we're also learning exclusive details about another oval office meeting that has become a focus for special counsel jack smith in this investigation. sources telling cnn witnesses are being asked about that meeting. it happened in february of 2020 where the former president praised election security improvements. even going so far to suggest doing a news conference so the fbi and the department of homeland security could take credit and tout just how secure things would be. >> right. what changes just weeks after celebrating election security behind closed doors in the oval office, trump started spreading baseless claims about voter fraud. >> the mail ballots, they cheat. people cheat. mail ballots is a very dangerous thing for this country. the election will be the most rigged election in history. the only way we're going to lose this election is if the election is rigged. remember that. this is being done on purpose. they know it's no good. they know it will be fraudulent. there will be fraud all over the place. who is getting the ballots?
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who is sending the ballots. >> let's bring in katelyn polantz. good morning to you. this is the latest indication the special counsel is seeking testimony about trump's state of mind, what he knew when he said those thing. how big a deal is that meeting? >> reporter: right now we don't know how it would fit into what the grand jury is weighing. we do expect that federal grand jury that's been looking at january 6th in the case that special counsel jack smith is bringing together where donald trump is the target. we do expect them to meet today. we won't know if they actually are convening or what they're doing until they do it because grand jury proceedings are extremely confidential until there is an indictment that would emerge. but in this story that last night was broken by sean lingis and others here at cnn, it is capturing just an aspect of what happened even before the election, even just a month or two before donald trump was out
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there saying that people may be cheating in the 2020 election. he was being told by senior intelligence, national security officials that the election was going to be very secure. that they were very confident in that. the confidence kept up among the intel community, among homeland security through the election. it was ultimately a very secure election with no widespread fraud. but donald trump was briefed on this in february of 2020. it is something the special counsel understands that this briefing happened. that donald trump was receptive to this information, that he was encouraging of the officials. but then there are other questions that the special counsel asked not just about what happened at this meeting but also there is a piece of this investigation about how trump retaliated apparently against some of the officials that were telling him that the election was secure, there were people that were fired in the administration, people who resigned in protest near the end. and so, all of that and how it
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fits into what the grand jury is looking at, we don't exactly know yet but it is another aspect that the special counsel's office pulled in as they build a case. >> more crumbs to follow here. the special counsel also we learned obtained key documents from rudy giuliani's team. just a couple days ago from that team that was trying to find election fraud. what's in those documents? >> a lot of documents actually, erica and poppy. there's hundreds of pages. and some of them are reports that the team around rudy giuliani were circulating about officials at dominion voting systems, the group they were accusing of switching votes with no evidence of that. they also had communications, many communications on the giuliani squad. so rudy julianmy was working for the trump campaign after the election trying to undermine the vote. there were people working with him, one of them was bernie karrick. a close friend of giuliani.
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he was holding back these documents from everybody who had been seeking them, not just the special counsel's office. but also house investigators. no one had gotten access to them and then karrick is saying they can have access to them. we'll see how that factors in and even more investigation to be done now that the special counsel's office has indicated they're near the end of their -- what they're looking at. >> appreciate the reporting as always. thank you. let's bring in cnn legal analyst, former federal prosecutor, elliott williams. good morning. >> good morning. >> this is so interesting because your mind can change. i know you were a federal prosecutor, but if you're trump's defense counsel, okay. he thought that then. tha . >> let's talk why intent matters in the first place. prosecutors will establish what was in the defendant's head at the time that he committed the thing that he's accused of doing. and here, it appears that jack smith, the special counsel's
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office, is investigating the former president's conspiracy to defraud the united states. that's -- that requires using an act of deceit to impede a government process, right? so if he knew that he had lost the election but still was pushing these claims, they're more likely to get evidence against him and you have to prove his intent and meetings like this can get to that. >> to poppy's point, couldn't this also point to maybe there was that intent there, but that's because listen, my client had been given all of these facts, in quotes, right? he had been told it was true. it's not really his fault. he believed it. >> sure. this is a pretty easy claim to rebut from the part of the former president. i'm the president of the united states. i get briefings all the time. it's my job to take in a plot of information from all sides. between february when this briefing came and april when i hit the campaign trail and sasa saying sa
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saying sa saying sa saying actively my mind changed. >> trump says the target letter came to him from the special counsel nine days ago. many people expected if he was going to be indicted it was going to happen soon. it's been nine days. and the grand jury is meeting again and seeing more witnesses today. more witnesses scheduled than a few weeks from now. what does that mean? >> if i had a mustache i would be twirling it now. trump had until last thursday before he had to appear in front of the grand jury. it's only been three or four days since then. in prosecutor terms this is not a long amount of time. even if he's charged within weeks that's still imminent at least to prosecutor. >> i would love to get your take, too, what's happening in texas. >> ah. >> i sense the excitement here which is good. so the governor said i'm not giving up. go ahead file your lawsuit. the doj did. >> yep. >> where does this all stand? governor abbott said i'm going
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to fight this all the way up to the supreme court if i have to. interesting the lawsuit from the department of justice is not specifically about immigration. that's important. >> yes. and like freud would say, sometimes a lawsuit against ill grags isn't a lawsuit against immigration. what the justice department was very careful to do was file this lawsuit on environmental grounds because of the fact that american law gives the federal government sole discretion over waterways of the united states. there are treaties with mexico governing how the rio grande is to be managed. when you put big buoys up the middle of the rio grande, you're violating a national waters law. it they said this is merely for violating the sovereignty of the united states and that's why they're suing. >> will it be successful? >> i think they have a strong argument there if you don't make it about the moral immigration stuff. >> there's the big if. appreciate it. thank you. a truck driver who attacked a police officer during the january 6th capitol riots has
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been sentenced to 52 months behind bars. 44-year-old peter stayinger of arkansas was captured on video beating officer blake miller with a flag pole after he was dragged by the mob and left lying face down. he is one of nine men charged with assaulting miller and two other officers. prosecutors said he was caught on video pointing to the capitol building and saying, quote, every single one of those capitol law enforcement officer's death is the remedy. this morning, new report says the extreme heat waves being felt around the world would be virtually impossible without human-induced climate change. wild fires are raging out of control across the globe. some images from italy, greece, algeria. record-breaking temperatures, also destroying crops and livestock and helping to trigger those wild fires and ultimately deaths as we know. cnn meteorologist derek van dam joining us now with more. so, couldn't have happened, right, without everything that we have done as humans.
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i guess the question is what can we do now if anything to reverse some of this damage? >> well, let me put it this way, erica, if we don't stop burning fossil fuels rapidly, our summer of heat hell will be considered a cool summer in the future. now, scientists for decades have been able to attribute weather events like coastal flooding, heavy rain events as well as these extreme heat events to climate change. but now the world weather attribution initiative, the report we're talking about has the ability to compare our current climate, which is 1.2 degrees celsius above post industrial averages to that of the past. what it's finding is the role of climate change is absolutely overwhelming. take, for instance, the current heat wave this month of july across north america with man-made climate change and actually 2 degrees sels rouse warmer than what it would be without these heat-trapping gases that we release into the atmosphere and they're becoming
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more frequent every five to 15 years. if we continue to burn fossil fuels we'll see the frequency become two to three years for these extreme heat events. what you and i consider to be extreme heat, 95 degrees, is becoming easily more achievable. not only becoming more frequent but we're seeing these extremes become even more extreme yet. take, for instance, the entire globe, the average temperature we have set records since july 3rd. we're on 20 something day streak of breaking this global average temperature record across the entire planet. and we're recording temperatures that we have never seen before. take, for instance, china. as these heat domes continue to propagate across the northern hemisphere throughout our summer months, it is making these heat waves, like i said, and what this report states, virtually impossible without the effects of man made climate change. erica? >> sobering indeed, derek. really appreciate it. thank you. senator mitt romney in a "wall street journal" op-ed calling on long shot republican
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♪ welcome back. well, senator mitt romney is out with a clear message to republican mega donors and influencers. quote, don't fund a trump pleuroalty. romney acknowledges the apparent inevitability of donald trump's nomination and suggests all hope is not lost for a potential alternative, that is he says if the republican field narrows to a two-person race before trump's nomination is lock in. that's where donors me in. their job according to romney, get candidates what he calls a slim chance of winng to, quote, agree to withdraw if and when their path to nominatio are effectively closed. and to do it, by february th of next year. according to a recent quinnipiac unersity poll republican and
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republican-leaning voters trump is way ahead with 54%. desantis in at 25%. remaining candidates in the single digits including new jersey governor chris christie who told new hampshire voters last night he's not worried. >> i will never be in front in one poll in this race until election night. and then when election night happens, and i win, all of a sudden you're going to become the smartest people in the world. and the momentum that new hampshire will give me will make me the republican nominee. and i will guarantee you if i am the republican nominee, joe biden doesn't stand a chance to get re-elected. >> joining us now is former new jersey governor chris christie. governor, good morning. welcome to "cnn this morning." we're so happy to have you. is mitt romney right? >> yeah.
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look, i don't disagree with mitt. i think especially given the date that he put on it. i think there will be a lot of narrowing, even before iowa. i think there will be narrowing that will be created by the debates and people's performances in the debates that starts the end of the month. if you get through the first four contests and haven't made real progress and look like the person that's ready to take on whoever the front-runner is at the time whether it's donald trump or somebody else, well then it makes sense for you to go home. look, after i lost in new hampshire eight years ago, poppy, i got out. >> yeah. >> and i think i wouldn't feel comfortable asking donors for more money or voters for their vote if i didn't see a realistic path to victory. so i don't disagree with mitt. >> you're betting a lot on new hampshire. that's clear. looking at the most recent new hampshire polling you're behind trump, desantis but also behind senator tim scott at 6%. he's at 8%. and he's got a really high favorability rating and you're fighting a -- the highest
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unfavorability rating in the state. why should people vote for you, governor, and not just against trump? why you? >> well, first off, poppy, it's -- every different poll that you look at we're at 10% in another poll in new hampshire and ahead of tim scott and two other ones. so which ever one you use, you're going to see a bit of a different result. but look, the reason is because when we had the problems in this country that we had back in the late '70s, it looks very much like today. energy crisis. problems overseas that are not being dealt with appropriately. run away inflation. and what the country did and our party and the republican party did was turn to a conservative governor from a blue state named ronald reagan who understood how to get things done. the trump agenda is not worth anything to republicans if trump is the one trying to execute it because he's proven he didn't know how to get things done. he didn't know how to build the wall.
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he didn't repeal to replace obamacare. added $6 trillion to the national debt after he said he was going to balance the budget in four years. i balance the budget in new jersey every year for eight year and got things done with a democratic legislature. i think the american people are so down on politics because they look at washington and see nothing getting done. i know how to do it because i did with a democratic legislature in new jersey and preserve the values i agree on. >> inflation has been cooling 12-straight months, dramatic cooling last month. there has been some improvement there. >> yeah. >> what about tim scott's gaining of momentum, governor? you worried about that? are you going to start going after him? >> i don't worry about anybody, poppy, except for the person in front. and if you want to win this primary, you're going to have to prove to republican primary voters why donald trump should not be renominated. he shouldn't be renominated for a whole variety of reasons. but most importantly because he can't beat joe biden and already proven that.
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look, i like tim scott. i think he's a good guy. we have known each other for a decade. and we see eye to eye on a lot of different things. but the point is, that i'm someone who had the experience of getting things done at the executive level in government and one of the hardest states to govern in this country. >> you clearly think donald trump is a danger to this country. do you think he's more dangerous to this country with a second term than a joe biden second term? >> look, i think they're both wrong for the country. by the way 70% of the country agrees with me, poppy. they don't want a trump versus biden race. >> who is worse? >> poppy, that's like flipping a coin. >> you said that in your town hall. >> they're both bad for our town hall. >> you're so candid when you're talking about trump. >> i did say -- i am answering the question, poppy. i think they're both awful. you're trying to get me to pick between two awful alternatives. here is something i'm completely
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committed to. i intend to beat both of them. i intend to beat joe biden after i beat donald trump. what people know about inflation is that prices are 17% higher now than they were when joe biden took the oath of office. >> i'm not arguing inflation is not a problem. i'm not arguing it's not a problem. it's a huge problem. trust me, we ask the biden administration about them. we're seeing improvement and morgan stanley came out and credited biden and their economic strategy for a big boost in economic growth ahead. let me ask you about what you would do though as president. you were governor. executive of the state of new jersey. you were also a federal prosecutor. right now texas governor greg abbott is going head to head in court. he says he'll go to the supreme court with the department of justice who says he is clearly breaking a federal statute with these buoys in the water and the barriers in the rio grande. you're a former federal prosecutor. do you think texas has the
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authority to do what they're doing and would you do it if you were governor in that state? >> i think they do have the authority to do it. i think this is another overreach by the biden administration. they've been smacked down by federal courts and most particularly the supreme court on a number of overreaches of authority. and i think they do have the authority to do it in texas. and if i were greg abbott, the governor of our largest border state, i would be doing everything within reason that i could to be able to slow down -- >> where is -- >> what's going on at the border. >> where is that border when title 3 of u.s. code section 403 creation of obstruction not affirmatively -- the text is very clear and you have the supremacy clause of the constitution. >> and it's very clear, poppy, texas state law that they have the absolute right to protect their borders and there's no question. >> they do, but not while
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breaking federal laws. could you have built a dam in the hudson? >> there were days that i really wanted to, poppy. >> but you didn't. could you have really? >> stuff going on in new york. a dam in the hudson river was not something that was going to be regarding the sanctity of new jersey's borders. this is different. and by the way, the supremacy clause does apply but not when the federal government has absolutely disappeared from doing what needs to be done to secure the border. you can't regulate something but then vacate the field and not do your job. if you're not doing the job, the states have the right to do it. he has the right to do it not only under state law. let me finish. not only under state law but also because the argument i guarantee will be made in federal court that the biden administration has abandoned their role in securing the border and the states had no alternative. that's the key factual argument.
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>> there's a little delay. we'll move on. the biden administration will argue as they did yesterday from the white house, look, illegal boarding crossings at the southern border are down since we implemented these changes. 42% in the last month. i want to move on to the issue of israel and the biggest protests we have seen in the history of the country right now given the law that passed supported by netanyahu that the supreme court now can't be the ultimate check on the government there. again, i wonder if you agree with netanyahu who calls that, governor, the essence of democracy. is it? >> it's not the essence of american democracy, i'll tell you that, poppy. our founders set this up so that all those branchs would be in conflict with each other, be a check and balance on the other. and i think that's why we're the most sustained democracy in the history of the world is because of all those branchs. the legislative branch, the executive branch and the judicial branch. being a check and a balance on
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each other. and i think that, you know, people are protesting in israel because they want to make sure that no one has unchecked power. in a democracy, in a republic like ours or like israel's unchecked power is not good for anyone. and i think those are the biggest reasons why people are expressing this concern in israel and i think it's appropriate to express that concern. >> sounds like you agree with the biden administration on that. let's move on to trump as a former prosecutor, you know all about intent and how that is a key factor in proving a crime. did former president trump know -- i know you have seen our recent reporting overnight about that february 2020 oval office meeting. did former president trump know he lost the election? did he say to you or acknowledge to you that he lost? >> he never acknowledged to me after the fact that he lost, but he certainly expressed to me during the campaign and during preparations for the debates he was very concerned about losing. i have no doubt in my mind,
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poppy, in his heart donald trump knows he lost to joe biden in november of 2020, but he has convinced himself by trying to convince others that the truth is otherwise despite the fact that there is no evidence that the election was stolen in 2020. i've been saying that since election night 2020. i've been demanding to see the evidence and there is none. so he never looked me in the eye and said to me, i know i lost. but he was very concerned beforehand about losing. and so, it doesn't surprise me at all the reporting that you gave overnight. but even more so, this is a guy who put his own self interest ahead of the country's interests. and so me, that's disqualifying for someone who has served as president and who wants to be president again. >> governor, what do you think your greatest weakness is as a leader? >> you know, i think for me at least it is at times placing too much trust in others.
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at times it is relying on people and trusting them a little bit too much. and that's happened to me in the past. i think i've learned from that. but i am a delegator of authority. i like to empower people to -- that i put in charge of things to be able to make decisions that they should be able to make. and there have been a couple of instances in my career where that's created some harm. but i think i've learned from it. >> was trusting trump your biggest mistake in that arena? >> no because trusting trump didn't affect the people that i governed as governor of new jersey. but i will tell you this, i came to the conclusion the night he stood in the east room of the white house behind the seal of the president and told the american people the election was stolen, when he had no evidence to support that, that that was the moment that i could no longer support him as president. and so, my opinion hasn't changed since then. >> governor chris christie, please come back. we enjoy having you on. thank you. >> good to talk to you, poppy.
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thanks for having me. >> erica? >> great, wide-ranging interview there. in israel, this morning lawmakers defying mass protests, passing the law to strip powers from the supreme court. is israeli's minister of defense e joins us next. and checking voicemailil as my activities permit. i'll connenect with you after reconnecting with me. ♪ get 1.9% apr for 36 months plus $1,500 purchase allowance on a 2023 xt5 and xt6 when you finance through cadillac financial. ♪ >> woman: why did we choose safelite? >> vo: for us, driving around is the only way we can get our baby to sleep, so when our windshield cracked, we needed it fixed right. went to safelite.com. there's no one else we'd trust. their experts reaced our windshield, and recalibrated our car's advanced safety system.
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rooms, nor the city of jerusalem due to the on going protests there. at least 19 people have been arrested after demonstrators took to the streets, blocking highways, clashing with police. joining us now is the israeli minister of strategic affairs. good to have you with us this morning. you advised the prime minister back in march not to proceed here. i know your role in many ways was to drum up the support, to find the consensus here. didn't seem to be there. the national security adviser among those advising against it. why do you believe the prime minister didn't listen to you here? >> well, i don't think he didn't listen to me. we tried, the prime minister
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tried and authorized my to go into discussions with the israeli president and members of the opposition to try to reach consensus and compromise. unfortunately those talks did not bear fruit. so what the prime minister decided to do he can't give a veto power to the political opposition of any step forward in judicial reform. so what he decided to do was to choose the least controversial subject, which is what past just the other day. this sort of reasonableness standard, which the judges in israel used to strike down all sorts of decisions made by both the executive and the legislative branch. and that was this issue of the reasonableness clause was something members of the opposition supported reforming in the past. took the least controversial issue and said we're going to move forward with the least controversial aspect of this reform and after that is passed he called on the opposition to now sit down at the table, to get serious about finding compromise. that's what he said yesterday. he's given four months now in
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order to find that compromise. believe me, air erica, can't ge compromise in four months we can't get it in four year. he would like to make these reforms together with the opposition, which is rare in democracies. usually that does not happen. the people that were elected turned to the other side and said let's do these reforms together. >> we'll see what happens in that four months. as you know, you talk directly about this clause. there's no constitution in israel. this was the one form of check and balance, right, was the supreme court being able to say, hey, this doesn't work to the legislative and executive branch. that is now gone. that is what a major part of the concern was not just in the country but outside of the country as well. we heard it from the president here. i'm curious, did president biden directly ask the prime minister to stomp down on this legislation? >> no. and let me also just clarify something. there are many checks that the supreme court has on the executive and legislative branchs in government that maybe a lot of people are not aware
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of. there's all check and no balance. that's the problem that we've had in israel over the last 30 years. you've had one of the most activist judiciaries in the world. we used to have three very strong branchs of government. today we have a very big judicial branch of government and two twigs the executive and legislative branch. and the focus of this reform is to try to restore the balance between the branchs of government. on what was passed yesterday, it's important for you and your listeners to understand, there are many checks that the supreme court has on executive decisions and legislative branch decisions in israel. the reasonableness standard was one of the arrows in the quiver of the judiciary. the problem with that standard is entirely subjective. you're basically substituting the views of 15 in israel, unelected judges for the views of the 120 members of the israeli parliament or the government. and it's an entirely subjective standard that doesn't exist to this extent in any western
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democracy. the british have a very narrow standard where they only use arbitrary and capricious. >> speaking of the british, i will point out the foreign minister saying -- urging the country this morning to preserve its system of checks and balances. you talk about the limited voices. let's talk about the voices who are very vocal not just last night into today but for months who have been concerned about this potential legislation and certainly after it passed we see the protests. you have the medical association on a 24-hour strike. we have thousands of reservists who say they will not report for duty. nearly all former idf chiefs of staffs and security officials are concerned about this. why rush this at this point given all of these concerns both domestically and internationally? >> well, i don't agree that it was rushed. it took a couple of months to pass this -- the most minor part of the reform. we've been dealing with this thing for seven months. the prime minister just said we're going to give another four months for compromise.
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look, erica, israel is a democracy. as you know in all democracies around the world, when you have issues that are controversial issues, you have protesters on the other side. see in france and united states and democracies around the world. all it means is that israel's democracy is very vibrant. i think there are fears that the opposition and many of the protesters have. i personally think those fears are unfounded and they're going to see as we move forward with this reform that many of the concerns they have are not going to happen. all of the fears they have of what this reform is going to do, somehow be the end of israeli democracy. they'll realize, no, it will strengthen israel's democracy. it is a democracy and will continue to be a democracy. we have a judicial system -- again, i will say it, most activist in the world. you have issues right now and clearly defined united states executive legislative and judicial branchs and you have tensions between your branchs of government. >> indeed we do. let me ask you because we're
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almost out of time. i do want to ask you specifically in israel, if the supreme court does, in fact, strike down this legislation, will the government heed that ruling? >> well, listen, israel is run by the rule of law. i have no idea whether or not the supreme court would make such a decision. it would seem to me a very strange decision for the supreme court to make to put it in american terms, imagine that -- >> we're almost out of time, sir. so would the government heed that ruling, yes or no? >> the government will always obey and abide by the rule of law in israel because we're -- we have in israel the rule of law. what we don't have is the rule of judges. we have the rule of law. >> ron dermer, appreciate your time. thank you. >> that was such a fascinating conversation. and that last question i think still remains. >> it does. it does. we'll be watching and see what happens in the next four months, but certainly not the last time that we'll be talking about this. >> really good interview.
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really interesting. the fed about to kick off its two day meeting today. will it raise interest rates after hitting pause in june? congress about to hear first-hand testimony from witnesses who say they have seen ufos, one of those witnesses joins us live next. visuals that inspire pride district-wide. ♪ fastsigns. make your statatement. the first time you connected your godaddy website and your store was also the first time you realized...
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♪ this just into cnn, china's foreign minister has been suddenly removed from his position, replaced by his predecessor. surprise shakeup in chinese leadership is especially significant because he's been missing now from the public eye for a month without information or explanation. cnn's mark stewart joining us now from tokyo with these details. so the government said at one point, oh, we don't have any information. we don't know what happened. but he had been very close to president xi. what more do we know this morning?
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>> reporter: indeed, erica. one of president xi jinping's most trusted advisers. but as you mentioned, for the last month there has been a lot of questions about his whereabouts. in fact, today during a ministry of foreign affairs briefing, a spokeswoman was asked about his whereabouts and how business is being conducted. and to quote, no information to provide is the line that was given and that business was continuing as usual. well, fast forward several hours and about just within the last hour we learned that qin gang has been removed as foreign minister. this is a very high profile job. this is the man who rebuked the united states and made strong comments after the incident involving the spy balloon and the shootdown and the response. this is a man who has also served as ambassador to the united states. very visible yet suddenly out of the public view. he's the person who helped facilitate some of the recent conversations with secretary of
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state anthony blinken. when there are key visits by u.s. officials, such as secretary of treasury janet yellen as well as john kerry, he was out of public view. so, as to what happened, no clear narrative at this point. but, this is a very bold change in the foreign policy force, if you will, for china, erica. >> yeah, certainly is. mark stewart, appreciate it. good to see you this morning. stock is doing well. dow hit its longest winning streak in six years after it closed higher yesterday. the rally comes as federal reserve kicks off two day meeting. they expect the fed will raise rates once again after pausing in june. christine romans is here, our chief business correspondent. what will happen? >> probably 25 bases points. the fed has really watched inflation cool but still too high for the fed's 2% target is still at 3%. so we think they're going to do another one here. when you just look at the extent of all these rate hikes it's
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been amazing. what's also been amazing is the resilience of e u.s. economy in the face of that. look at the stock market. the stock market you mentioned longest winning streak for the dow in more th s years. look at the market performance this year, you guys. just take in those numbers. last year waa disaster for investors. this year you're seeing a really strong bounce back. one of the reasons is more and more people are looking at stronger than expected corporate earnings, cooling inflation, still resilient job market and saying maybe we can get that soft landing in the economy. in fact, mgan stanley recently upgraded gdp forecast for this year to 1.3% from 0.6% which would suggest we will avoid a recession. and morgan stanley specifically saying that bidenomics and some of the biden industrial policy is helping here as well. so really at the beginning of the year people were saying when and not if there will be a recession. today they're saying, maybe we'll get past it. and that's certainly what the markets are saying.
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>> wouldn't that be amazing? >> yeah. just remarkable. but, you know, i'm always waiting for the next shoe to drop. as a business reporter, always waiting for the next shoe to drop. it's been a remarkable year in terms of the resilience of the u.s. economy and the consumer and job market. >> what a tight rope to walk. thank you, christine. >> talk soon. house sub committee is set to hold a hearing on ufos tomorrow. our next guest a pilot who says he saw them on a near daily basis over a two-year period. ♪ >> announcer: money y this morng is brought to you by jp morgan chase. celebrating the peopople who uplift community. jp morgagan chase is here to ma it happen. peoplele of all abilities. you've made something that people find invaluable. it fuels you to keep making a better impac with your business. i don't ha to think about the pathway to the ocean, i just know i'm going to be able to surf ain. that's why we're here... help make it happen.
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back in my day, it was scary stories and flashlights. we don't get scared. oh, really? mom can see your search history. that's what i thought. introducing the next generation 10g network. only from xfinity. we may, just may, get one step closer to learning the throughout about the government knows about ufos. the government called them unified anomalous phenomena, or uaps. today a committee will hear testimony from people who say they witnessed these uaps and they defy physics.
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our next guest will testify before the committee, a former navy fighter pilot who says he witnessed the uaps, quote, every day for at least aup of years. >> whoa, got it! >> the founders for american safe aerospace. it became very eserious for you part of your training as a fighter pilot is to identify objects in the sky. do you have any idea what that was? >> we don't. and to your point, being able to identify what's in the sky is a key part of being a fighter
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pilot. we are looking to identify who is operating off our coast and when we can't ascertain what -- who the owner is of a particular object, that's a big national security concern for us. >> a big national security concern. also something that hasn't gotten as much attention, you know, around the chinese spy balloon. you said it was not the same level of public and official attention that we saw with that, for example, that we will see with reports of uaps or ufos as folks call them at home. why do you think there is not the same level of interest or concern even? >> well, i think stigma has played a large role in minimizing the topic. when you hear ufo and even uap to some extent your mind goes to the cultural conversation about aliens and things of that nature. we don't have enough information to say where the objects are originating from. we are trying to take a hard look at data to determine if
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there are national security concerns that pop out. as we saw, if there is a part of the sky that we are not paying that much attention to, our adversaries will take advantage of that. >> you mention reluctance in some cases to come forward i would think both in the military and in the private sector. pilots right. people need their jobs. oh, aliens, and people sort of make fun of you. is there also a concern that could negatively impact your employment. >> absolutely. we are seeing that with the military aviation community acknowledging that this is a real safety risk all the way to the point of us actually shooting down unknown objects over the continental united states a couple months for the first time in history. even still, commercial airline pilots have no mechanisms to report this. if they see a optional, their instruction if they should like to report it is to funnel that information to local law enforcement or some uap ufo
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organizations out in the public sector. we don't have a formal process to look at this and that's a domain awareness gap. >> this will be the third congressional hearing on uaps. are you sensing there is more of a willingness among lawmakers to not only learn about what's happening but potentially have some action, maybe make it easier to report this? >> i think so. i think we are seeing the start of that, if you will, uap caucus start to form. bottom line, once people take a look at the data, it's hard to reach other conclusions. so we have seen a lot of support from those who had the opportunity to view what myself and other pilots and other military folks have seen and i think that support will continue to grow post-hearing tomorrow. >> chuck schumer introduced bipartisan legislation which suggest the u.s. government or private contractors may possess recovered ufos and biological evidence of living or deceased non-human intelligence. one of the witnesses tomorrow who is a whistleblower is
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expected to testify to that. do you believe there so be some sort of a cover-up here on the part of the government? >> well, that would be what mr. rush is implying. he did that as part of the uap task force put in place to investigate what we were seeing off the coast. so i remain skeptical, as i think many do in the united states and elsewhere. but the fact of the matter is with such claims the only way to get to the bottom and believe those is for the frtransparency are from the government. by going before congress and sharing our experiences i think that will bring a lot of people in the conversation and put the onus on congress to be transparent. >> thank you. we will be watching that testimony. special counsel jack smith zeroing in on a trump meeting in the oval office. details coming up. an infant rescued from this car in the middle of sweltering
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♪ good morning. we are so glad you are with us. 8:00 a.m. on the east coast. that happened fast, actually. >> yeah. flown by. >> you make it fly by. eric can hill, thank you. we are keeping a closeoy on the nation's capitol. january 6th grand jury will meet again today the third indictment looms over donald trump. we are also learning about an oval office meeting that has become a key focus of the special counsel's probe. the justice department is now suing the governor of texas after he refused to remove a floating border wall that the doj says is cruel to migrants. live to the rio grande as that escalates. shoplifting has become so bad in san francisco, stores are locking up frozen food, coffee, even mustard. we will have
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