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painful legacy of emmett till. the commander in teeth, the first dog commander is accused in a new round of biting. sara and kate have the day off. i'm john berman with rahel solomon. this is cnn "news central." well, as soon as today, former president donald trump could face yet another indictment. the grand jury that would ultimately vote on that, and they are expected to meet today, and all of that is as we learn that jack smith has new documents to pour over, and they are new papers from rudy giuliani's team, and that is the same team that tried to find fraud after the election. it appears to include documents for widespread irregularities,

and fraudulent activities. i want the bring in paula reid. and so it seems that jack smith has more documents to review, and what does it tell us perhaps about a potential indictment time line? >> well, they can certainly indict someone, and then continue with the investigation, and that is what they did with the mar-a-lago investigation. they indicted donald trump and walt nauta, and then continued to investigate. so we know that the grand jury usually meets on tuesdays and thursdays, but our producer, casey gannon, she is over there on the court. she has covered it for months, and she knows all of the players over there, and familiar with how it works. at this point, she has not seen the grand jury to come in today, and that is suggestioning coming in later today, but look, even

if the prosecutors are working on more documents, they have more new documents, because in the last few hours they have received thousands of documents from the legal team head by rudy giuliani to try to find alleged fraud. these documents came from former new york police commissioner bernie keric. cnn obtained many of the documents last night, and a team of us went through them, and rahel, after reviewing them, it does not appear that this is the type of the evidence that wow would have to complete a review with before speaking to former president trump. and in addition to the documents they have three witness interviews over the next three weeks. >> thank you, paula reid.

we will check back in with you. john? >> we have breaking news. it is involving bronny james, the 19-year-old son of the four-time nba champion lebron james. we are learning that bronny james who is going to be a freshman basketball player at usc suffered cardiac arrest while at a practice yesterday. t me read a statement that was just provided to us by the family. yesterday whe practicing, bronny james suffered a cardiac arrest, and medical staff was able to treat bronny and take him to the hospital. he is now in stae condition and no longeinhe icu. we ask for respect and privacy for the james family, and we will update the media when there is more information, and lebron and savannah, the parents of bronny, wish to send the deepest thanks to the usc staff for incredible work and dedication to the safety of their athletes.

so cardiac arrest at practice yesterday. and crucially, resting comfortably and no longer in the icu. dr. sanjay gupta is with us, and andy scholes as well, and now, you give us a statement of what this means to you. >> well, so, he is 18 years old, and sounds like he had a sudden cardiac arrest, and there was a very fast it sounds like resuscitation. taken to the hospital. but, as you are points out given that he was in the intensive care unit, and able to leave the intensive care unit, and go to the general floor, and this is the important headline there, and the cardiac arrest and what triggereded that is what the doctors will be investigating over the next several days. this is rare. we know that a few thousand

people who are young athletes do suffer sudden cardiac arrest every year, and so many different reasons that can happen, and abnormalities of the electric impulses of the heart. and with lamar hamlin, it was kermosho's we was a sud sen blow to the heart. and we don't know at this point, but electrical issue with the heart that was unrecognized until now. and we will get those details, but the important thing is that he was resuscitated successfully. in terms of how the doctor are looking at him now, and they believe he is stable enough now to not believe he is needing intensive care at this point,

and that is good news. >> and andy, i want to bring you into the conversation and bronny is an athlete who had just committed to usc. >> and yes, bronny who is the son of lebron, and he had started at sierra canyon and mcdonald's all-american, and he competed in the slam dunk contest. and you know that bronny james has played hundreds of thousands of minutes of basketball and at a very high level in high school, and going to usc to be a freshman and if it went well at the freshman year there at the trojans that he could make the jump to the nba, and lebron has said it is one of his dreams to play with bronny in the final season, and now we have the wait to see if that would happen anyways, but at this point, we

wish to best for bronny, and we hope that he is doing well, because he is a rising star in basketball, and especially in the college ranks, and people are going to be filling the seats there at usc to watch him play. you know, you hate to see something like this happen, and we certainly hope he is going to be okay. >> sanjay, in terms of the actual medical information, it says cardiac arrest, and you mentioned damar hamlin, and that is something specific that happened. and viewers of my age will know hank gathers and reggie lewis, and how does that vastly compare to heart attack or heart failure? >> well, good question. with sudden cardiac arrest, the heart stops beating which is different than a heart attack

where there is a period of time where the heart is not getting enough blood flow, and the result of the lack of blood flow leads to the damaged muscles where it stops beating as well, and sudden cardiac arrest, and there is no clear-cut problem. and one thing is that you have to distinguish between the people who are older, over the age of 35 and younger. and the causes of cardiac arrest are going to be different. over, it is related to the blood vessels to the heart, and with the younger people, there is a condition known as hypertrophic card cardiomyopathy, which means muscles are not beating as efficiently, and there can be a problem with the chambers of the heart to be beating in a coordinated fashion.

if there is a electrical problem in the heart, that can make a difference. again, we don't know what happened in the scene or at the hospital, but doing the defibrillation to essentially restore that electrical pattern to the heart can make all of the difference, and again, we heard that with damar hamlin, and as you are pointing out correctly l with damar, it was a blow to the chest, but no indication that is what happened with bronny james here. but to andy's point, the people who have sudden cardiac arrest, and if they can figure out what happened to cause this, there is a possibility to address this and he can go on the play and play at the level that he was playing before. again, that is speculative at this point. they will have the investigations to do medically to sort that out. but they will do that over the next few days, and we will have clear answers.

>> anything about a workout, dehydration, or exhaustion or overexertion that could contribute to the likelihood of something like this happening in a practice? >> yes. the answer is yes, and in fact, as the news started to break, it tends to happen more in men than women, and athletes who are competing at a higher level. basketball is one of those sports where you will see the sudden cardiac arrests as well, and the more minutes that you are playing, the higher likelihood of it happening. again, this is rare. no one is suggesting that you are going to be tailoring the number of minutes, but built is dehydration, and the heart working harder possibly bringing something like this on. and so there may have been an underlying condition that may not have posed a problem for

someone, taxing the heart or may have elicited something with the muscles of the heart leading to this sudden cardiac arrest. >> help us to understand the treatment for bronny, because we have heard that he is out of the icu and stable, and walk us through the types of things that happen in the hours and days to come. >> if they let him out of the icu and what they are saying and what we can infer from that, they felt that his heart was now stable and beating in a normal pattern and no reason to believe at this point think he would have another sudden cardiac arrest. keeping him in the hospital to do the tests that you would do, and maybe put an ultrasound on the chest wall to looking at the heart, and looking for any structural abnormalities of the heart. what i was talking about is the muscle of one chamber of the heart bigger than it should be or bigger than the muscles of the other chambers of the heart.

they will look at the electrical pattern of the heart, and over a period of time. so, you know, at baseline it is look like it is fine, and oh, look over here, he is having certain spikes and changes in the electrical patterns, and maybe they will have things that are stressing heart. having him go on a treadmill or medication to speed up the heart to see if the electrical patterns of the heart, and this is the investigation of damar hamlin and he was sicker than what it seems that bronny is, and so he was unconscious for a period of time, but with bronny and given the fact that he is out of the icu, a great deal of comfort there in that, but the investigations to what trigerred this, they have to happen. there's a good chance that there

is an answer. there is a chance that when it happens, there is not an answer as to why it happened, but he may find out. >> and this is a prayer for bronny, and prayer emoji, and thank you for being with me during my entire process. >> we will be bringing in andy scholes, but damar hamlin lost consciousness for an extended period of time on the football field when he had his heart incident, and one thing that we do not know yet, and one thing that is important to assess from bronny james is, you know, how long was he out for? did he need to be resuscitated and anything that you can read into the fact that he is already out of the icu. >> yeah, i have been asking the same questions. when somebody says that someone had a sudden cardiac arrest, you know, again, we will get to the

detail s details, but loss of consciousness and likely needed resuscitation, and likely defibrillation at the time, and that is standard of care, and we will hear, and again to your point, we know the outcome already, and what led to the outcome, and the outcome is that he was taken to the hospital, and the icu, and quickly discharged to the icu and what led up to that point, and we know that he was in the icu and the doctors say that we know what happened, and he is stable enough after we put it together to conduct the exams on the general care floor, and that should provide a lot of comfort, because it is a good sign, and it does not mean that he is out of the woods, and again, we have to figure out what happened here, and we will hear that, but it is a good sign that they were able to make that decision so

quickly. >> i want the bring back andy scholes, and we have talked about this, for lebron, one of the goals was to be a professional basketball player alongside his son on the same team, and talk to us about bronny james the player and individual, and 18 years old going into usc now. >> well, you know, it is so hard to live up to the expectations when your dad is lebron james, right? we rarely see the superstar athlete and the kids follow in their footsteps. at this point, bronny at every single level was reaching that threshold. he started at sierra canyon, and mcdonald's all-american, and competed in the dunk contest, and when lebron says that my dream is to one day play with my son, and people thought that it was farfetched to have those expectations to believe that your son is going to make it into the nba and you to still if

be there, and it was a possibility, because bronny is a four-star prospect, and his dad could still attend all of the games, and as sanjay mentioned, the prospects, and a star player for the florida gators, the player collapsed there, and in a game, and medically induced coma for a few days and before he got out of the coma, the doctors were like, to like sanjay said he ended up transferring to kansas and won a championship, and then the hope is, john and rahel, bronny will have a similar path of keonte johnson, and he will have the similar path, and get back on the basketball court and perform

like he is used to. >> i am so glad that andy scholes brought up that case, because my mind went to hank gathers and reggie lewis who passed away. >> and in stable condition according to his family. >> andy scholes and dr. sanjay gupta, thank you. we will follow the story throughout the day. in the meantime, thank you, both. we will be right back.k. versus 1 16 grams in ensure® high protein. boost® high protein. now available in cinnabon® bakery-inspirered flavor. learn more at boosost.com/tv every day,y, more dog people, and more vets are deciding it's time for a fresh approach to pet food. they're quitting the kibble. and cking the cans. and feeding their dogs dog food that's actually well, od. deveped with vets. made from re meat and veggies. portioned for your dog.

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welcome back. the federal grand jury investigating former donald trump's election interference. now, joining us is a prosecutor and defense attorney, and i want to start with this february 2020 meeting, and how does jack smith use this to establish intent, and that trump knew that there was no fraud? >> well, i want to begin i think with a prefatory note that while jack smith will have to prove intent, will have to prove the former president's state of mind, and will have to prove that he knew what he was doing was wrong and that he was perpetrating a fraud, that

doesn't really translate to a requirement that he prove that the former president actually believe that the election was stolen. having said that, it is useful for him to prove that or at least disprove trump's inevitable defense that he believes and continues to believe that the election was rigged and stolen from him. so proof in the months and the weeks and the days before the election, and january 6th that the president was not only aware that this election was as the department of homeland security said the most secure in history, but that he believed that and praised those efforts to the point that he wanted to hold the press conference to take credit for it, and it is going to show that consistent with what most of his advisers and lawyers and campaign aides were telling him

that there in fact was no fraud in that he had lost the election, and so it is all a piece and goes to the issue that is going to have some jury appeal, and it is going to be important for the jury to understand that he knew the whole time that the election was not stolen, and it had in fact gone to president biden and he was just trying to overturn the results so he could stay in power, and one more note there. >> i would just say that if he got in front of the jury, and trump's defense team would say, yeah, maybe he believed that then, but perhaps he changed his mind as he learned more, and help me to understand the defense case here, and put on the defense hat here, and what is the defense? >> that is absolutely correct. okay, in february 2020 he was given this briefing in oval office, and he thought that it looked great, but as the situation unfolded he came the

believe that in fact it was not secure. they can certainly say that, but what is useful for the special counsel is showing a through line that beginning as early as 2020 and going, you know, going throughout as a thread is that the president at time is told that in fact there were no problems or demonstrable thoughts that there was fraud, and it is a pattern that shows early on and shortly when he when he makes claims that there was problems with the election system. >> thank you, dannya perry.

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the breaking news. bronny james, the 18-year-old son of lebron james, went into cardiac arrest while working out in usc.

he was rushed to the hospital, and now he is out of icu and the james family is asking for privacy. and now, the gop investigation which delved into the biden dealings while he was vice president and all focused on when he was involved with foreign issues, and what else did speaker kevin mccarthy say about impeachment threats. >> yes, this is what he said to sean hannity. >> this is what would allows us

to get the rest of the knowledge needed. >> in the house oversight and judiciary committees have been investigating hunter biden and his businesses for months, and they don't have direct ties to joe biden, but what you are hearing from kevin mccarthy, perhaps they would get more information if this was part of the official impeachment inquiry, and we should note that the house republicans have been talking for months and have the sights of impeaching other members of the biden administration such as merrick garland and alejandro mayorkis, and also when he told donald trump at the time that he needed to talk to his conference about doing that, but there is a stark difference of how he is handling this biden issue, and how he

talked to the former president. >> thank you, lauren fox live on capitol hill. and now, former missouri congressman and majority leader dick gephardt, and thank you for being with us, and than you for your patience as we handled some breaking news. and you know the house of representatives as well as anyone alive and when you are hearing the house speaker is floating the idea of an impeachment inquiry into president biden because of the connections possibly as he says to hunter biden's business dealings, what is your reaction? >> well, the only problem that i have is that the american people want congress to deal with their problems and not go on wild goose chases to investigate everybody under the sun. we have a lot of problems in the country, and we need bipartisan

action, and i don't know what they are doing, and why they are doing it, and they can do what they want, but i think they would be better advised to deal with the problems that we have right now. >> and you been in the news lately, because you are dealing a bipartisan effort to lead a third-party group to lead a candidate of this no labels group to get someone on the ballot in every state is a bad idea. why do you think it is a bad idea? >> well, if these were normal times, we would have no problem with this, and anybody can run for president, and any party can put up a candidate. these are not normal times. in 2020 we barely missed having a broken election for the first time in american history by a

whisker. only because vice president pence and five or six election officials all republicans out in the swing states stood up against tremendous pressure to do the right thing. they put country over party and country over self. now, the person who instigated the whole questioning of the election's validity donald trump is running for a second term. he tried to overthrow the federal government, overthrow our electoral process in order to assert something that everybody knew was not true. as liz cheney said, he cannot be allowed back into the white house again. if the third party, and if no labels puts a candidate up, and if biden and trump are the candidates, it will elect donald

trump to a second term. so if donald trump is the candidate and no labels say they do not want to be a spoiler, they don't want to elect donald trump, then why don't they say that they won't put up a third party candidate if donald trump is on the ballot as the republican candidate. >> you raise the possibility of the two nominees could be joe biden and donald trump, and two men one of whom will be 80 and one who will be pushing 80, and what do you say to those who say that voters deserve different generational choice, and is it healthy for the american people to have as their options two people who are getting on. >> john, we have a democracy and freedom, and anybody can run for president who wants to run for president. if joe manchin wants to run for president, and i like him a lot, he should run in democratic

primary, and there are nine candidates in the republican primary, and the people decide on those candidates. we will have primary elections for the republican party and the democratic party starting next winter in all of the states. so the people make the decision. nobody tells you to run for president or not to run for president. i ran for president twice, and nobody asked me to run or told me i couldn't run. let the process go forward and it has been going for 240 year, and it works. so don't try to muck it up by putting back into office somebody who tried to overthrow the federal government. >> and quickly, you reminded me that you ran against joe biden in the democratic primary in 1988, and if people want to read about it for the best campaign

advice at a bookstore near you, and what do you believe it takes to win against him today? >> well, look, nobody perfect has ever assumed the office. we all want the perfect human being. none of sus perfect. i know joe biden. i served with him. some of the things he has done i like. some of the things he has dope, i don't like. that is okay. that is fine. but let's not muck up our electoral process. look, john, if the american people no longer trust our election process, the democracy is done. it is the bedrock of our democracy. that is what we are on the threshold of doing in 2024. >> former house majority leader dick gephardt, and thank you for

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what are we learning? >> and a number of people are sending is out prayers to the james family and one of those damar hamlin who says sending prayers just like you were there for me. and the good news is that bronny james is no longer in icu and he is in good stable condition, and that is what we heard from dr. sanjayupta, and the james mily explain what happened that yesterday while practicing, bronny james suffered a cardiac arrest and the medical staff treated bronny a he is in stable condition and no longer in icu, and they are asking for respect and privacy and thank the people there to tend to him in the medical emergency as he was in cardiac arrest. he is a four-star prospect in sierra canyon there in the los angeles area, and he was going

to pack the seats there for the trojans as many people wanted to see him as he aspires to be an nba player to follow in his father's footsteps. we have heard lebron say many times that the dream is to one day play with his son, and here is hoping that bronny has a full recovery, and he can continue his basketball career at some point. >> yes, andy, talk to us more about that, and lebron james is going to go down as one of the greatest of all time, and bronny was an incredible athlete, and young man, and 18 years old, and walk us through the athleticism, and all that bronny represented. >> yeah, you know, we rarely see, and we see sons are following in their father's footsteps often, and the super high and super star father, and with all of the games of sierra

canyon, he turned into one of the biggest stars in the areas, and he ended up going to usc, and he got the name, image and likeness to pull in the dollars to play, and hopefully they will diagnose this, and continue his career. and we saw with it. keonte johnson who had the same thing happen, and he went on to have a run with kansas state, and then drafted in the nba, and here we are hoping that he can follow in the steps of keonte johnson. >> and great to point out that reference as we know what happened to bronny, he could potentially play again, and a lot of questions. andy scholes, thank you. john? no baby on the side of the

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new research finds that china was likely behind a series of protests in washington, d.c. last year. china used a network of 70 fake news websites to promote positive content online. some of the demonstrations had only a handful of people, but the protesters had no idea they were being enlisted in a

pro-china influence campaign. the sexual assault trial of kevin spacey is in the lands of a jury. he faces nine charges of offenses against four men. he denies the charges and has pleaded not guilty. iran banned a film festival after a poster showed an actress not wearing a hijab. the minister deemed it inappropriate. after a 22-year-old woman died in the custody of the morality police. she had been detained for not wearing a hijab, that was according to government standards. now to a new twist this morning in the case of an alabama woman who appeared to go missing after calling 911 about a toddler on the highway. police now say they received a letter from her lawyer saying she lied to 911 dispatchers and was actually never missing. ryan young is with us now. there was so many questions about this one. what does the letter tell us? what are we learning? >> so many questions about this.

the internet has really taken this on their own. so many people wanting to know what happened to carly russell. you have to think about canine units. there was a drone. there was a helicopter. this was put up to find the missing woman. in the end, she's telling police that this was a hoax. she when when you think about the fallout for this, think about all the people across the country who tried to rattle ily behind this community and figure out what happened, when you think back to it, there was a 911 call, a toddler on the side of the road. things spiralled out of control. take a listen to the police chief yesterday talking about this hoax. >> there was no kidnap ping on thursday, july 13th, 2023. my client did not see a baby on the side of a road. it was identified as the missing person. my client did not have any help in this incident, but this was a

single act done by herself. a man with orange hair kidnapped her and escaped several times before being able to return home. something we'll all be looking into. >> before i let you go and unfortunately, has she said why? >> that's the big question right now. no one has said why is and we're not sure if she'll face any charges. >> ryan young for us, thank you. >> that's a great question though. why? why do you do this? why do you send law enforcement down this road and concern anyone who might care about you like that. >> certainly, a lot of questions. glad she's okay, but still so many questions. ryan yung, thank you. thank you all for joining us. thank you for being here. it was great to have you. this has been "cnn news central." "inside politics" is up next. ♪ at morgan stanley, old school hard work

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