a serious health scare on the basketball court. broni james, the son of lebron

james, goes into cardiac arrest, collapsing during practice at usc. reaction is now pouring in. we have the lauts on his kpn. and a grand jury investigating former president trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election, is expected to reconvene today. we are following the latest movements on that, plus stop the block. hundreds of military spouses are calling on senators to end the impasse over military promotions. now the man at the center of this controversy, senator tommy tubberville is responding. we're covering these major developing stories and many more all coming in to "cnn news central." . we begin this afternoon with a major health scare involving lebron james son, bronny.

he suffered cardiac arrest during basketball practice at the university of southern california. this happened yesterday morning, but details are coming out just now. the 18-year-old was hospitalized and his family released a statement saying in part, quote, medical staff was able to treat brony and take him to the hospital. he's now in stable condition and no longer in icu. the family is asking for privacy and promising to update the media. according to tmz, bronny was unconscious when he was taken by ambulance to the hospital. we're joined now by cnn sports anchor, andy scholes, and cnn chief medical correspondent, dr. sanjay gupta. andy, first to you, what are we learning about what happened in that practice session? >> well, boris, we're not really getting a lot of details as of yet. we don't know if bronny collapsed on his own or took some sort of hit to the chest area, similar to what we saw with the bills' damar hamlin during last nfl season. we're still waiting to see what those details are. the good news is that in less

than a day, bronny was out of icu and in stable condition, according to the family. and amazingly, this is the second time this has happened to the u sc basketball program in the past year. last summer during workouts, vince awugaku also went into cardiac arrest while practicing there at usc. he was taken to the hospital and ended up returning to the trojans program 191 days after going into cardiac arrest. what was great news for him and his situation. we're still learning about what's going on with bronny right now and his condition. and i'm dr. sanjay gupta can talk more about what's next for bronny but the good news is for the james family, is that he is in stable condition and is still, of course, hoping to continue his basketball career at some point. of course, the good news here is that health wise, he seems to be doing okay, as of now. >> andy scholes, thank you so much. let's turn to dr. sanjay gupta

now. doctor, how common is this sort of thing among younger people. he's only 18 years old. >> well, thankfully, it's pretty rare among people that age. we're talking a few thousand people a year, 6,000 to 7,000 that might actually suffer a sudden cardiac arrest outside of the hospital. often times for them, it is the first time that they've had any indication there's something wrong. there's not sort of like an earlier symptoms or something that would have served as some sort of warning. this is the first time they've had any kind of issue at all when it comes specifically to sports, it's more common. sports involved in about 39 to 40% of people under the age of 18. when you get older, there are other considerations beside sports that become more common. but basketball players, more common, men, more common. and again, thankfully, it's rare, but 6,000 to 7,000 times a year it could happen, and many times it unfolds just the way we're hearing about it with

bronny james. >> and sanjay, there is an important distinction between cardiac arrest and heart attack. walk us through the difference. >> so, simply put, sudden cardiac arrest, that means your heart has stopped. it just stops beating. and that can be for a variety of reasons. someone will lose consciousness, they're not getting blood flow to their brain. they oftentimes may need a defibrillator to restore the electrical rhythm to the heart. with a heart attack, because of a blockage in some of the blood vessels that give blood to the heart, the heart muscle itself is not getting enough blood flow, and that heart muscle can begin to die. that can lead to a cardiac arrest, so ultimately, it can lead to the same sort of thing, but there may be very different causes for one versus the other. sudden cardiac arrest, again, more common. you'll see that in younger people. so, for example, over the age of 35, if someone has a cardiac arrest. it's typically more likely due to a heart attack under the age

of 35. there is no predominant reason. it could be due to an electrical problem in the heart, it could be due to some sort of anatomical problem, that has not yet been diagnosed. there can be a variety of things, but those are the major distinctions, boris. >> and sanjay, as andy alluded to, there have previously been basketball players that have been in similar situations with cardiac arrest. many of them have been able to get back on the court, so what does the recovery look like now for bronny? >> well, they've got to sort out what happened here. so, as andy was talking about, i think one of the big headlines, obviously, other than the fact that bronny had this sudden cardiac arrest is that he is already out of the intensive care unit. that's really important piece of information, because as you may remember with damar hamlin, it was a few days. with other players, it's often been a few days before they get out of the intensive care unit there's still this period of instability, where they're not sure if the heart is going to go

into another cardiac arrest. they felt confident enough, it sounds like to say, look, whatever happened, we've still got to figure that out, but he is stable enough to not require intensive care. so now they're going to sort of sort out what happened here that might involve putting an ultrasound on his chest and actually looking at his heart, seeing if there's some sort of anatomical abnormality, boris. what's already likely happened is electrodes set up to measure the electrical patterns of his heart. the electrical patterns of his heart might be normal most of the time, but over a day or so, they may see these abnormalities, which they hadn't seen before and that might be some indication as to what happened here. it is possible that they never figure it out, they never understand exactly what caused the sudden cardiac arrest. but unlikely for that to be the case. you remember with damar hamlin, it took some time before they were definitively saying this was due to that sudden blow to the chest wall.

it doesn't sound like that's what happened here, obviously, but there is a reason, and it's likely they're going to figure that out. >> we're glad it sounds like bronny is doing better, and we hope to see him on the hard wood again soon. dr. sanjay gupta, thanks so much for your expertise. we appreciate it. jim? a big question in washington, will today, could today be the day the federal grand jury examining former president trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election is expected to meet today. we are watching this meeting closely, because the grand jury could vote at any time on whether to indict the former president. this comes as special counsel, jack smith, continues to make moves in what appears to be the late stages of such an investigation. he just received a trove of documents from former new york city police commissioner, bernie kerik. kerik along side former trump attorney, rudy giuliani, led the trump campaign's probe into false claims of election fraud. for months, kerik withheld the documents, claiming they were privileged, but now he has handed them over just weeks

ahead of his own scheduled sit-down with federal prosecutors. cnn has also learned the special counsel is interested in particular in a february 2020 oval office meeting where sources tell cnn trump actually praised u.s. election security. cnn's senior legal affairs correspondent, paula reid, joins me now to discuss. a lot to get to. first, we're not going to know until we know, right? >> exactly. >> but why the particular focus on today's grand jury meeting? >> the grand jury that's been hearing evidence in the january 6th case typically meets on tuesdays and thursdays. now, that schedule can be amended as needed, but we have a producer at the courthouse, casey begannan, she's been there for months. she knows the grand jury, she knows all the players. >> she knows where to get coffee. >> or the lobster bisque, which they talk about a lot as well, but she hasn't seen the grand jury come in today. if kacey hasn't seen it, it's unlike that they're actually there. that doesn't mean they can't come in later today. but even if they don't come in

today and we're looking again on thursday or seeing them tomorrow, the special counsel has plenty of work to do. they've just received in the past 48 hours thousands of documents. and we obtained many of those documents last night, a team of us went through them. and look, jim, after reviewing many of these, these documents do not seem like something you have to review before possibly pursuing an indictment again former president trump. there's just not a lot of "there" there in the documents. they're still withholding some, but we know they also have upcoming interviews with people, including bernie kerik, the former new york police commissioner who handed these over. they have as of now at least three more interviews scheduled in august. what we're trying to figure out how is will they indict the former president and then continue their work, which is what we saw in the mar-a-lago investigation, or will they wait until they complete this phase before moving ahead with a possible indictment? >> and given that kerik led that effort to find fraud that wasn't really there, sounds like he would be essential to the special counsel's final

conclusion on this. >> you would think, but it's also possible that they don't think that he's at the heart of their case against the former president. it's something that we're trying to reconcile right now in our reporting. >> understood. >> okay, we also have michael moore with us right now. of course, with a tremendous amount of experience in cases such as this, as a lawyer, it's our understanding, michael, that the special counsel is scrutinizing among other things a february 2020 meeting where trump praised u.s. election security. why would that potentially be central to the special counsel's investigation? >> yeah, well i'm glad, juim, t be with all of you. it's always a benefit for a prosecutor to be able to get inside the head of a potential defendant. you want to get in there and figure out what they were thinking, when they were thinking it, when their motivation was, why they may have taken this act versus that act. and so to hear about the meeting, to learn about the meeting, the special counsel will be sort of trying to figure out where trump was on the line.

was he -- one end of the election security was bad, on the other end saying it was good, or where was he, somewhere in between? it just gives him a way to sort of gauge his reactions. then he'll try to use, i suspect, whatever evidence and information he gets to argue against potential defenses from trump that this was a legitimate legal challenge. that they have real belief in the fraud, that how could he be at fault for this, because he had this evidence or that evidence. he could then turn around and say, well, wait a minute, at this meeting, you were saying that that wasn't sew and this was the best election lead up in history. of course, it was early on. the election hadn't happened, but it will be something that will be of interest to. >> you and i have talked about this before, but for folks at home, it gets too intense. and i asked paula reid this question yesterday, can wishful thinking be a defense for the former president? you know, just to say, yeah, i kind of thought there was enough fraud for me to win over, you know, to actually win this

thing. what degree of confidence do you have to have to be protected from legal issues? >> i don't know that i would put any stock in a wishful thinking defense than a wishful thinking not guilty from a jury that may hear the case. what they'll have to prove is that he had a reasonable belief. that there was some some -- that's why i say "they," that they had reasonable belief. he has no burden of proof, but the government will have to get by that and say, look, his beliefs could not have been reasonable. there's nothing to case that there was fraud. he knew there wasn't fraud. he was told this. but remember, there's nothing inherently illegal about talking to your lawyers, about being creative about possible defenses, about looking for ways to may be challenge something in

court or an administrative proceeding, that's all fine. and you cross the rubicon when you get to place where you start talking about doing unlawful and illegal acts like unconstitutionally seizing voting machines and this type of things that makes it a criminal act. it's going to be getting across the hill, and i think these meetings and other things that he did and talk about them will push the special counsel to believe that he has no reason to believe that there was any fraud in this election, this was simply a power grad by trump and his team. >> or to see fake electorates, for instance. michael moore, pretty sure we'll be talking you again about that. thanks so much for joining us. >> great to be with you all. thank you. explosive mines at nuclear power plant. u.n. inspectors say they found those mines at the site of europe's largest nuclear plant which is in ukraine, but under russian control. what officials are now saying about the danger. plus, his most direct threat

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prisoner swap. cnn's natasha bertrand has been covering from the pentagon. natasha, do we know the severity of reid's injuries? >> reporter: jim, we don't yet know trevor reid's status at this point. what his condition actually is. all we know at this point is that he was injured fighting in ukraine and he was transported to a hospital in kyiv and since then, he has actually been medically evacuated out and into germany. we still don't know just what condition he is in, but remember, trevor reid was released from russian custody in april of 2022, so he has been out for about a year now after being wrongfully detained in russia for nearly three years. he was arrested in russia in 2019 and the russians actually made him spend or said he was going to spend nine years in prison before the u.s. engaged in a prisoner swap with the russians for a convicted drug smuggler, konstantin urashenco.

he was tweeting just about as recently as a month ago. it is unclear when he went to ukraine, but we are told that he was, again, injured there. don't know just how badly he was injured, but that he has been evacuated to germany at this point, jim. >> and among a number of former american service members who volunteered to go there to fight as well as from other countries. natasha bertrand at the pentagon, thanks so much. boris? u.n. atomic inspectors say they found explosive mines at the site of europe's largest nuclear plant, which is under russian control. the u.n. team says the mines were in a buffer zone on the periphery of the zaporizhzhia plant and facing away from the site. meantime, ukraine is reporting small gains on the battlefield near the city of bakhmut, where intense fighting has dragged on for months. but the small gains there could reap big rewards. cnn's alex marquardt is in the black sea port city of odessa. alex, how worrisome is this

report about mines near the zaporizhzhia plant? >> well, boris, we're getting this information from the iaea, the international atomic energy agency. and they're saying if there were to be detonations or explosions from these mines, that it would likely not affect the nuclear safety or the security of this plant. so that is good news. of course, you never like to hear the word "explosives" or mines alongside a nuclear power plant. this is the biggest nuclear power plant in europe and it has been in russian-controlled territory since almost the very beginning of this war. what this does really speak to is russia building up its fortifications. russia really entrenching itself in and around this plant. the iaea was aware of other explosives inside and outside the plant, they say. what we understand what these are that were spotted by aeae experts over the weekend are directional anti-personnel mines that are points outwards away from the plant.

they're designed to hurt, maim, or kill humans. so they would not be expected to harm the plant itself, of course, should they go off. now, the experts who were there on the ground, they were told by people who were working in the facility, and these are still, you know, nuclear experts. these are people who have been working in the plant for some time, despite this russian occupation, that this was a military decision. that this is an area controlled by the russian military. and then we heard also, in this statement from the iaea, an understatement, if you will, boris, that these explosives are inconsistent with safety standards and nuclear security guidance, just a nice way of saying that we would much rather that explosives and mines were not near the biggest nuclear power plant in europe. boris? >> an understatement, indeed. alex, what can you tell us about the small gains that ukraine has made in bakhmut?

>> obviously positive momentum, but they are modest gains. bakhmut is one of the most fiercely fought-over cities since the beginning of this war. russia does control it, but ukraine is trying to encircle it, not doing so well on the northern part of the city, but they say that they are pushing around to the south, which could eventually cut off russia's efforts to resupply the city and take higher ground. and then in the south, which is arguably the bigger priority in this counteroffensive, we understand that they have made some gains on two different axes, as they try to push down towards the sea of asoff, which planned mass that connects russian-controlled crimea with russian-controlled donbas. they have managed to push forward, but they have had to dig in. this is an extremely tough fight. we've been there and spoken with the soldiers.

it is a very densely mined area and those forces are facing a fierce artillery from the russian side, but they are making some small gains here, boris. >> alex marquardt reporting from odessa. jim? >> retired major general "spider" marks here with me now. if you put a bunch of mines and explosives close to the largest nuclear power plant in europe, was that in a deliberate attempt, preparations by russia to create well the possibility of a radiological attack there? >> i don't think that. i think what the russians were doing or saying, we yoen this and we have no intent of giving it up. it also restricts, when you look where zaporizhzhia is relative to crimea and the new land bridge, if you will, that's connected donetsk and the donbas region to crimea, it limits the maneuverability for the ukrainian forces and for the russians. it gives them -- the russians a good defensive position and it limits maneuverability for the ukrainians in that area, if you're trying to isolate either north or to the south and west. >> understood, but you're not

concerned about the nuclear proliferation? >> no. >> there have been talk and concern, you heard this from ukrainian officials, about russia laying the groundwork for a false flag attack, which they have tried to do multiple times in other categories to do something truly dangerous like that, but blame ukraine. >> i really don't see that. there is nothing but losers across the board, if that were the case. i think it would be catastrophic, it truly would, and it wouldn't be able to be mitigated in any particular way. i don't see that as a risk to zaporizhzhia. >> fair enough. let's go on to the progress of the war. ukrainians are reporting some small territorial gains around bakhmut. but in the larger picture,he counteroenve has not been as fast as expected. did some reporting on this a number of weeks ago, how concerned are you about that, and do you believe that ukrainians have the ability to turn that around? >> several thinlgs here, jim. attacking through these offensive barriers that the russians have put in place is going to be very difficult. it's slow maneuvering. you have to have really good

intelligence, you have to reach out and know where you want to go, but it takes a lot of firepower, once you can identify a gap and you have to exploit that. these kinds of operations take time. so i don't know what the pace is supposed to look like. many would label this as a desultory pace, it's very slow. i'm not concerned that this is offkilter or offpace. the ukrainians are doing it at a tempo that they can sustain. >> and by the way, as i understand it, you need three-to-one advantage to attack defended positions. the ukrainian president just last week attached some blame for this on the slow delivery of weapons systems from the west and made the point that you get those systems, and you have to train ukrainian forces up on them. and that gave russia time to dig in further. do you think that's a fair criticism? >> i don't. i don't. look, let's just state, president zelenskyy is a churchillian kind of leader. that's great.

i think what you have to realize, you look at this ukrainian military. it's getting the support from the west. and each one of these enablers provides an advantage, but you have to synchronize all of that together. you have to conduct operational art, maneuver, keachieving tactical objectives, tying them together. you have to do that if a three-dimensional space. command the air, command cyber, have great intelligence, have long-range fires, all of that has to be synchronized. and i don't think they have the numbers of those enablers in order to achieve that level of operational success. >> understood. well, listen, there's still time. we'll be watching closely. general sp"spider" marks, thank so much. boris? is that a threat? house speaker mccarthy didn't just crack the door on pursuing a biden impeachment, he's now appearing to throw it wide open, a shift from just a few weeks ago. a live report from capitol hill when we come back.

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this just in. a federal judge has just dealt a major blow to the biden administration's asylum policy, blocking a portion of that policy recently instituted. cnn's priscilla alvarez has more on this now. and priscilla, this relates to the biden policy that blocked folks from crossing the border, as i understand it, who traveled through another country, right? i mean, for folks watching at

home, this is key, is it not, because this had helped reduce or the impression was, this had helped reduce the flows. >> jim, this is one of the measures that administration officials have cited for driving down border crossings, because what it does is it largely bars migrants who transit through other countries from seeki ing asylum at the u.s./mexico border if they didn't first try to seek refuge in other countries. and as you know, jim, migrants that do come to the u.s./mexico boater have often passed through other countries like mexico or guatemala, or recently, panama. so this is a blow to the administration, which had been using this policy as one of many measures to again drive down those border crossings. and we know that it had some effect. in fact, just last month, the full month, where all of these issues were in place, u.s. border patrol had encountered nearly 100,000 mirgrants. so this is a ruling that could have major ramifications on the

u.s./mexico border. it is also important to note that the judge put this on hold for 14 days. so that gives the justice department time to file for an appeal and try to stop this ruling from going into effect. now, we should also note that this is a judge who had heard a similar case under the trump administration over a similar policy. and he had also plblocked it th. we assume this was probably the route he was going to take. now the ball really is in the justice department's court, and whether or not they decide to appeal. but certainly, this could cause some anxiety within the biden administration, as it has relied on this policy, among others, again, to try to drive down those border crossings. >> so 14 days, we assume the doj appeals. that will then go to the ninth circuit, though, which had previously reaffirmed this judge's rulings, is that right? in similar cases? >> yes, this was under -- again, that trump administration, when

similar policies were rolled out. so just -- again, we don't know how this is going to play out. we just got this ruling. but the ninth circuit has previously affirmed the lower court when it came to this type of rule. >> priscilla alvarez, thanks so much for covering for us. an impeachment inquiry of president biden is on the table. that's what house speaker kevin mccarthy told fox anchor and trump ally sean hannity, signaling an aggressive new approach as republicans investigate hunter biden. republicans allege that joe biden was linked to his son's business deals, pushing unverified claims of a bribery scheme. biden and the white house have repeatedly denied those claims. let's take you now live to capitol hill with cnn's lauren fox. so lauren, those house republican leadership conversations about impeaching joe biden, they were tabled a few weeks ago, something changed. >> well, this is a divisive issue, boris, even among house republicans, this is an issue

that divides more moderate members, who have to go run for re-election in biden-won districts. and it is also an issue that for some conservatives is an important inflection point for the speaker of the house. yesterday, we heard the strongest comments that we have heard so far from house speaker kevin mccarthy on this issue. here's what he told sean hannity. >> we've only follow idea the information has taken us. but hannity -- rising to the level of impeachment inquiry, which provides congress the strongest power to get the rest of the knowledge and information needed. >> and house republicans have been investigating hunter biden's business dealings for months now and they have yet to provide a direct link of evidence to president joe biden. however, some republicans are arguing that if you open an official impeachment inquiry, what you can get is more information.

now, some republicans have their sights set on other biden administration officials for impeachment, including the secretary of homeland security, alejandra mayorkas, as well as merrick garland, the attorney general. this is part of a broader push from some conservatives within the party, who want to see impeached on the table in the next couple of months. boris? >> yeah, they have threatened to impeach like a half-dozen cabinet officials in the biden administration. we'll see what comes of it. lauren fox, thanks so much. jim? well, we have told you, of course, about the punishing heat waves in the u.s. and in europe. next, a report that says that things could get a lot worse. this is cnn news central. withou? try downy light in-wash freshness boosters. it has long-lasting light scent, no heavy perfumes, and no dyeyes. finally, a light scent ththat lasts all day. downy light! the all-new tempur-pedic breezeze makes sleep feel cool. so, no more sweating all night... ...or blasting the air conditioning. because the tempur-breeze feels up to 10° cooler,

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a climate warming to all of us. the extreme heat wave scorching the u.s. and other countries across three continents right now would be, quote, virtually impossible without human-induced climate change. that conclusion comes from world weather attribution scientists, as temperatures are shattering records, not just for intensity, but also for longevity. the heat destroying crops and livestock, triggering wildfires, exacerbating water shortages and sadly, killing people. heat hell is how one scientist is describing it. meteorologist chad myers is here with details on the report and chad, you and i talk about this all the time. there's been some wild weather. i know weather is not climate, but there are weather patterns that the data shows and has for years are the result of the warming planet.

explain for focus at home in layman's terms what we're seeing now is connected to human-induced climate change. >> we know exactly what climate change is going to do to the earth, pretty much. i know that there is not exactly day-to-day or month-to-month, like you said, that's weather, not climate. but we know that things are going to get more extreme, and we know that there's been extreme heat in the desert southwest the past three or four weeks. we know there's been pretty extreme weather across parts of new hampshire, up through noef sk skok scotia. and those extremes are becoming more normal. now we're going to see this heat, where temperatures in new york city are going to approach 96. the heat wave is in 2023, 3.6 degrees above normal across the west, 4.5, and 1.8 across parts of china. this is what we're talking about when they said, this would virtually be impossible to get

to these numbers, because we are so far above the records in breaking records day after day. so we should have heat waves about every 1 to 15 years here just like this. but with global warming going on, that may change a lot, because this is where normal used to be. now we know that normal is farther to the right. the bell curve has changed, the standard deviation has changed. we'll now see three times more likelihood than those type of flash floods, those type of heat waves, because where we are now in this globally warming planet. we have been above the old record since 2016. so we're actually going to break july's records, there's no question about that. china has been over 50 degrees. we've never had a number ever, ever recorded. places are hot. 25 degrees in a row where the high temperature in phoenix has been over 110. patterns are stuck. if these things moved and we get two to three days like this,

okay. but when patterns get stuck, which is when it's dangerous. >> watch the data, if you don't believe that, watch your thermometer. chad myers, thank you for breaking it down for us. boris? military families slamming tubberville's quote, inappropriate and unpatriotic hold on military nominations, delivering a letter with a clear message, do not use us as political leverage. now the alabama republican is responding, we'll break it down when we come back. (man) mm, hey, honey.

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♪ alabama republican senator tommy tuberville is responding to a support group for military spouses that demanded he end his hold on military leadership promotions. the nonpartisan secured families initiative hand delivered a petition to tuberville with signatures of more than 500 active duty military spouses and called on him to end his bloc because they say ijeopardized e lives of servicers andsrupts their families. the petition said in part, quote, no matter yr political beliefs, you must age that service members and military families will not be used as political leverage. it's time to end this political showmanship and recommit to respect the service and sacrifice of those who pledge to

defend this nation. tuberville has blocked 300 nominations including roles for chairman of the joint chiefs of staff and e commander of marine corps he's doing it to p pentagon policies on uctive health care. a spokesperson defending his position say this, coach honors and is grateful for the service of our heros in uniform. that is why he's working to get politics out of the military, using the times he has as a united states senator including his hold. let's get perspective from sarah streator, she's the executive director of the family initial and a military spouse herself. thank you for all of the effort families put into defending our nation. what is your response to senator tuberville's response your name? >> unfortunately, it reminds me of the kind of platitude i think

military families are all too used to. folks say that they honor our service and sacrifice, while simultaneously pushing for policies that undermine that service and that sacrifice. you know, if i got the chance to speak to the senator in person which unfortunately, we were unable to do yesterday as he was at a fund-raiser. what i would have explained this is affecting every single one of us with a loved one in uniform. it's like pulling the football coach in the biggest game of the season to not affect the players on the field. please stop this. >> so, sarah, how has this impacted you personally and perhaps other military families that you're hearing from? >> so, we're in direct contact with some of the folks whose promotions have been blocked. we've heard from folks who have kids whose schooling is now in limbo. they may not get to the next duty station in time to start trying out for fall sports or music teams. we've heard from spouses who

have already quit their old jobs and can't move and get the new job so they're in some financial limbo as well. but i think the most alarming stories are from families who have military kids who about to turn 18 who are taking one look at military games played with the military and considering not joining because they don't want to put their careers at risk. those the stories i want to pay close attention this is ramification are for recruitment retention. >> that's something because there are issues in the force. i wonder, sarah, what you make of the senator's argument that he's trying to do this to get politics out of the military. that he wants the military not have anything to do with the debate over productive rights? >> well, first of all, i think it's a fundamental misunderstanding of the policy at play. the dod has posited what is essentially a travel and leave policy to allow service members who do not have control over

where they get stationed or where they live to access health care. but what's most important is the underlying tactic that the senator is using. this is more politicizing of the military than any other policies he's debating and we would rather he stop attacking 300 families who have nothing to do with the policy in the first place. and process this agreement with the dod through the regular legislative channels. >> and, sarah, what happens if the hold drags on, if this continues? >> well, by the end of the summer, we're going to have half of the joints of chief staff to be open. that's no way to run the country. does the senator expect the military to run without making decisions. this is going to be terrible for international security, which is why we're trying to encourage the senator, withdraw his hold, resolve the days agreement through normal appropriate channels so we can move forward and be fully staffed for what

comes next. >> sarah streyder, we appreciate the time, please keep us posted in your efforts to have a one-on-one with senator tuberville. >> thanks, boris. >> jim. coming up on "cnn news central," we have a deal, u.p.s. and teamsters reach a compromise on what could have been a crippling strike. we'll hahave the latest, just ahead. okay everyone, our mission is complete balanced nutrition. together we provide nutrients to support immune, muscle, bone, and heart health. yaaay! woo hoo! enre with 25 vitamins and minerals and sure complete with 30 grams of protein. ♪

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