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bergdahl is thrown out, the just citing scathing comments about bergdahl made by donald trump. and a terrifying scene right outside our office window, a huge crane collapse set off by a five-alarm fire. look at that. this happened just a short time ago. we have new developments coming in, including on how many injuries or whether anyone was hurt. sara and kate are off today, i'm john berman with rahel solomon. this is "cnn news central." ♪ well, happening next hour, hunter biden will be in federal court in delaware. he is expected to plead guilty to two misdemeanors for not paying taxes on time. pit roaden's son also struck a deal with federal prosecutors to resolve a felony gun charge. the plea agreement is a major step toward the conclusion of
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the justice department's investigation into hunter biden's finances. a probe that began in 2018. now, over the course of the probe investigators examined allegations of money laundering, foreign lobbying and other potential charges. let's bring in cnn's kara scannell she is outside the courthouse. good morning. what can we expect to happen today? >> reporter: good morning, rahel. we expect hunter biden to arrive this hour, we just saw one of his attorneys abi lowell enter the courthouse. once this hearing gets under way around 10:00 a.m. we expect hunter biden will plead guilty to two tax misdemeanor charges for failing to pay taxes or more than $1.5 million in income in 2017 and 2018. he is also resolve a charge related to gun possession, that is a felony for possessing a gun while addicted to a controlled substance and biden has been very public about his addiction problems. so as this hearing gets under way we expect the judge and the prosecutors to lay out what this
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case is about, what the alleged crime is that hunter biden is pleading guilty to, and then the judge will have the opportunity to ask hunter biden questions. that's a pretty formulaic part of this process but we don't know exactly what hunter biden will say in response to those questions but she will want to make sure that he knows that he is pleading guilty to these charges and what he is pleading guilty to. now, we also expect to learn more about this plea agreement. our sources tell us that as part of the tax misdemeanor charges prosecutors have agreed to recommend probation, that is a no prison sentence. each of those misdemeanors carry as much as 12 months in prison and the gun felony charge could have as much as ten years in prison. because of the program if hunter biden agrees to the terms of it he will not have any prison time. we will learn more details about just what this plea agreement s this is a first in a year of firsts, it's the first time an american president's son is pleading guilty to any crimes while he is in office. there's been a twist overnight,
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the judge talking about possibly sanctioning hunter biden's lawyers, we expect that to be address this had morning as well. that has come up because the house ways and means committee wanted to file an amicus brief and said one of hunter biden's attorneys had the clerk remove a document from the docket. hunter biden's team says that this was a misunderstanding, there was no misrepresentation, their lawyer was not saying she was part of the house team. this is something that the judge has said she's questioned whether there should be sanctions against biden's team. that willed addressed at the hearing that gets under way in an hour. >> a lot of ground to cover in this hearing. we will check back with you in the 10:00 hour. kara scannell, thank you. with us now former assistant manhattan district attorney daniel horowitz. thank you so much for being with us, counselor. this is a plea agreement hunter biden can walk into that courtroom or courthouse very shortly, but for it to go through the judge has to agree to it. >> that's right. >> how often does a judge not agree to it? >> it's very rare.
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it really doesn't happen very often because you're talking about experienced prosecutors and experienced defense lawyers and there's a great deal of deference and discretion that's paid under these circumstances to their abilities to work out a just resolution, and that's exactly what you have here. you have david wise the u.s. attorney appointed by donald trump, you have abi lowell one of the preeminent white collar defense attorneys in the country and they have worked out an agreement which is not uncommon in a tax case where somebody has failed to file tax returns for a year or two. i don't think we are going to see any fireworks, at least with respect to the putting aside, if you would, of the plea agreement. >> how unusual is it for a third party, say, the congress of the united states, to file a brief saying, hey, don't do this? >> well, that's where the rubber hits the road. that doesn't happen. in our system of law what we
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have is we have an opportunity for victims of crimes to speak, and as far as i can tell the house ways and means committee is not a victim. so that's completely out of what's called regular order. i also think that whatever they filed, and i understand there's been a kerfuffle about what happened when somebody called the chambers to deal with this, but papers that were apparently filed by the house ways and means committee may have had information in them that was confidential and that should not have been filed. so i think that just sort of adds to sort of the politicization of this process today. >> for the judge not to agree to the plea deal, what would have to happen? how big of a mix up would there have to be? >> i don't think it's -- you know, the issue that a judge would have to face is, you know, is this a fair and just resolution? is there some sort of unusual --
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had highly nushl irregularity about the terms of the agreement and there are just none of those factors that are present here. >> all right. probation, what does that mean exactly? if hunter biden is going to get probation, maybe two years, what does that entail? >> that means he's going to be reporting, people will be watching over his shoulder. it means if he engages in any kind of foot fall he may end up back in front of the court and it may be that the judge has to resent tens them. and, you know, for a lot of people, everybody is talking about, gee, it's a misdemeanor, it's a criminal conviction. this is something that this man is going to have to carry with him for the rest of his life, it's obviously very public given who he is. there are oversight requirements and i can guarantee you that those who are watching in the audience would tell you if you are given the choice between a felony and a misdemeanor, you know, would you be happy with any kind of criminal conviction, and the answer of course is no. >> it bears repeating, what we're about to see has never
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been seen before, which is the child of a president of the united states is going to walk into a courtroom and plead guilty to a crime. happening very shortly. daniel, don't go anywhere, we are going to talk to you in a few minutes about another legal happening, but first back to rahel. former trump attorney rudy giuliani conceding in a court filing that he defamatory statements about two georgia election workers after the 2020 presidential election. the concession is connected to a lawsuit that was filed against giuliani by ruby freeman and shane moss. they say giuliani made false allegations against them in an effort to undermine how votes were counted in georgia. in a light night filing giuliani says that he does not deny lawson and free man's allegations that he smeared them after the election but we should note that giuliani is refuse to go concede that his statements caused damage to the mother and daughter. the filing goes on to say that giuliani wants the ability to argue that his statements about voter fraud were protected speech. now, the timing of all of this is extremely important because
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right now giuliani's actions are under scrutiny in a separate federal investigation, and it's all tied to special counsel jack smith's grand jury investigation into former president trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election results. clearly a lot in this filing, so let's get to cnn senior crime and justice reporter katelyn polantz. it was a short filing, about two pages, but what else did giuliani say? >> rahel, this was pretty jaw dropping to see this morning and also pretty tricky to understand from a legal perspective. so what giuliani is trying to do here is to put to bed some of the risk that he faces for things he said after the 2020 election. he's being sued in a lot of different ways, he has this situation where he has spoken to the special counsel criminal investigator in a separate situation, totally from this lawsuit, but in this lawsuit he's now conceding that he was making false statements about these two election workers in
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georgia, these two women shaye moss and ruby freeman who say that they faced a significant amount of fear, harassment, after giuliani was publicly out there accusing them of taking part in a voting fraud scheme. here is just a reminder of some of the things that rudy giuliani was saying about them. here is a video from him in june of 2022. >> ruby freeman and shea freeman moss and one other gentleman quite obviously surreptitiously passing around usb ports as if they are vials of heroin or cocaine. i mean, it's outstanding -- it's obvious to anyone who is criminal investigator or prosecutor, they are engaged in surreptitious illegal activity, again, that day. >> reporter: so after he said things like that, these two women, shaye moss, ruby freeman sued him for defamation and that case has been moving forward. giuliani has been accused of not
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giving them all of the records that he has in his possession about this and so he's trying to shut down some of the legal risk he has there by now making these concessions that these were false statements, but he doesn't want to admit to everything that would cause him to have legal liability here because he wants to say that what he was saying after the 2020 election about them is still constitutionally protected speech and perhaps he may want to argue that he wasn't the one who was damaging them in a way where he should have to pay them a lot of money, as they would very likely ask for if he's found liable in this lawsuit. really complicated legal situation but the big question here now, ra tell, is what is the ripple effect of this? what does the judge say in response to this in this lawsuit? what would ruby freeman and shaye moss say? and then what happens in the situation where giuliani is facing disbarment in new york
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state and washington, d.c. as well as what happens with the special counsel investigators, what do they say his -- one of his political advisers is putting out a statement as well saying that he's not acknowledging that the statements were false, but he's not contesting them, that this is a legal issue, not a factual issue. rahel? >> katelyn polantz, great to have you sort of explain what he was conceding torques what he wasn't conceding to and certainly the implications of all of this. katelyn polantz live in washington. thank you. just moments ago hunter biden did arrive at the courthouse in wilmington, delaware, at federal court. let's take a look at this video. we can see some people right there, somewhere in there there is hunter biden arriving at the courthouse in wilmington, delaware, where he will appear before a federal judge and enter this plea agreement pleading guilty to two misdemeanor tax charges. he is arriving about 45 minutes early. back with us is daniel horowitz. i want to talk about rudy
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giuliani in just a second, but given that hunter biden just arrived, how quick are these proceedings? now that he's there, how quickly can this be taken care of? >> he has a specific time to appear. the sentencing proceeding, the plea proceeding will take probably a couple hours or so. it goes by script. i mean, there are questions that the judge is required to ask and that he's required to answer and it will all go by script, but arriving 45 minutes early, you know, for me as a trial lawyer, if you get there on time at 10:00 you're late. so getting there early is standard course. >> let's talk rudy giuliani. i want to play a little bit more of what he is now no longer contesting that he said and no longer contesting that it was false. let's listen. >> how can they say there's no fraud? look at that woman. look at her taking those ballots out, look at them scurrying around with the ballots. nobody in the room hiding around. they look like -- they look like they're passing out dope, not just ballots. it is quite clear they're
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stealing votes. >> that was what rudy giuliani says and now in a filing overnight he no longer contests that he said it and that it was false. let me just play because i think we have sound also of the victims here, of the people he said that about, because he is saying now also that he may still contest that it had an impact on them basically, right? listen to what they say. >> there is nowhere i feel safe. nowhere. do you know how it feels to have the president of the united states target you? the president of the united states is supposed to represent every american, not to target one. but he targeted me. >> all right. two quick questions. first one on the defamation case, per se. rudy giuliani no longer contests
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that he said it, no longer contests that it was false but says he still may fight the fact that it was somehow defamatory or had an impact on them, how could that be? >> i don't know. i think this is just rearranging deck chairs on the titanic. he's trying to position himself for a settlement and as i think you are alluding to he's trying to say, well, i may have said it but it really didn't hurt them and this video that you just played, this woman is shaking, she's in tears, she fears for her life. it's hard to imagine how a jury would not conclude that there were damages in this case. >> this is a defamation case, it's not a criminal investigation, yet rudy giuliani is now no longer contesting that he said false things. in the filing he makes clear this is only for the purpose of the defamation case, but if you are jack smith's office orphany willis' office on the fulton county how do you not look at this and saying, wait a second, this guy is saying he said false things, shouldn't that play into
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our criminal case? >> of course. what the impetus for this statement was was a threat by the judge that she was going to hold him in contempt or impose sanctions because he didn't turn documents over. what were the documents that he didn't turn over? apparently communications with folks in the trump inner circle about getting this myth out about what happened in the election, which is of course exactly what those two prosecutors are looking at. so what's happening today in the defamation case clearly has a connection to the larger criminal investigations that are still . how much of a connection remains to be seen. we would have to see indictments, which may or may not be coming soon. daniel horowitz, thank you so much. covering a range of legal issues this morning. rahel? john, coming up for us, he walked off a u.s. base in afghanistan, was held captive by the taliban for five years and this morning the judge is tossing out the conviction and dishonorable discharge of former
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their assessment. >> thank you. thank you, chief. department of buildings. as the mayor and the chief said, we're really fortunate this morning, but this is not a mayor who relies on luck, so it's my job and our agency's job to find out exactly what happened here. this is quick moving, don't have a lot of answers or all the answers. we will get them to you in time. we have a building under construction, intended to be a 54-story mixed use building. the general contractor is monodonoc construction. all permits for the building for crane location were pulled, operating those permits. there was a prior unrelated incident early at the site with this contractor when they do an
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excavation they hit a con ed wall, but there are no other instances or incidents at this site. there are lots of people who are part of the crane operation, there's an engineer that writes up the plans, essentially a general carter, there is the user. we will be looking at all of those folks and what we intend to do, similar to post and street and garage situation, we are putting in place contracts so that we will have an independent assessment as well. so the folks who are involved in the crane operation, the general contractor of the project, we are looking at all as i'm sure you will be, we are looking at all of their histories to see
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what those stories are. >> can we take any questions? [ inaudible question ] >> crane operator was operating the crane at that point and was lifting 16 tons of concrete, and that crane operator saw the fire started and tried to extinguish it. so we give a lot of credit to the crane operator, but the fire overwhelmed that operator and had to exit the crane. >> was he able to get out? is he safe? >> the crane operator was able to get out and is safe. [ inaudible question ] >> we're extinguishing it with hose lines. [ inaudible question ] >> with hand extinguishers.
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[ inaudible question ] >> yeah, the second building. so our dob structural engineers were en route before we started, they are probably here. we will look at the structural integrity of the building that was hit. we will look at the structural integrity obviously of the building that was worked on. we have a specific cranes and derricks unit, all of the dob personnel is here on en route and when they have a chance to assess it we will have more answers for you. >> it looks like it's a crane from -- a second crane -- [ inaudible ]. >> again, as i said earlier, there is the engineer, we have who the engineer is. there is -- that's steve valhado engineering. you have the crane user which is cross-country and the crane owner which is new york city crane and equipment.
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again, give us some time, we will be looking at all of the parties, their records and we will get you more information, more specifics as quickly as possible. [ inaudible question ] >> part of the review to determine exactly what happened, once we get up there, once we're able to look at it and do an analysis we can find out exactly what's happened. it's preliminary. [ inaudible question ] >> it'550 10th avenue, i believe 555 10th avenue is the building that was hit. [ inaudibl [ inaudible question ] >> the injuries were all minor
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to four civilians which included some of the workers. so they were very fortunate. [ inaudible question ] >> as we know -- as of now from -- they were on the outside when the debris fell. [ inaudible ]. >> whoa. whoa. whoa. [ inaudible question ] >> so i'd like to give you a picture of what was taking place. the crane operates above the roofline and on that above the roofline there is a beam that goes out and that's carrying the weight of concrete and, and that weight of 16 tons is attached by a cable. as the fire heats of cable, the cable weakens to a point where it loses its strength and that's
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where the collapse occurred. >> can you tell us about getting water on it [ inaudible ]. >> the difficulty when you have a fire so high up is to be able to supply water to the building, stretch hose lines from inside the building and across the street. and that takes manpower, firefighters, but also that we're able to search the surrounding buildings and evacuate it. that's why it took so long. >> and so -- and so attached to the boom -- attached to the boom was holding concrete, that's what you see this all over the street because in addition to the boom, you had something that was holding a substantial number of concrete that was moving around made up of these stones. so while we're so lucky is not
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only the boom falling to the street, but all of that concrete could have struck civilians, and this has spread out throughout the area here. so we were -- we were extremely, extremely lucky this morning, but getting this right, as the commissioner stated is not about luck, it's about making sure that people who are above our skyline are doing it correctly and it appears as though at this time all the documentations were in order. [ inaudible question ] >> that's what it appears now. [ inaudible question ] >> we will find out. the investigation will determine that. >> thanks, folks. >> thank you. >> all right. we've just been watching together this press conference from city officials here in new york and from the fire department. a few things we have learned
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after this crane collapsed this morning from this press conference. we heard from mayor eric adams there of course. a few things we learned, that more than 200 firefighters and ems personnel on scene, this is a quite large scene. we know that five people were hurt. officials there saying that those were minor injuries. the crane that apparently set all of this off was apparently holding and carrying 16 tons of concrete. so i want to now bring in cnn national correspondent brynn gingras, she is there for us and she was there listening to the press conference. brynn, a lot of information here. what more did you learn and what should we take away from this? >> reporter: first i just want to get out of the way to week zoom in. you can see past those people and the crane there in the middle of 10th avenue here in new york city. now, listen, i have to be honest it was difficult to hear what was going on in that press conference, but i did talk to a lot of workers here that were actually on the same floor as where this crane was operating and i want to give you some details of what they were telling me.
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essentially one of the workers as you just heard officials describe said that the crane was bringing up heavy concrete that was needing to be poured on this high-rise as they continue construction when they believe there was some sort of mechanical fire. this person describes it to me as they saw the cab of the crane start to smoke and actually fill up with smoke. frank, you can go up and show where that crane did collapse. they said the cab started to smoke, filled up with smoke and he said once he saw the crane operator evacuate that cab, that's when he knew it was not a good sign. so he said that's when the building started to quickly evacuate of all of those workers who are now all standing on the streets here around me. one of the workers described to me that actually as they were trying to escape that building, they could feel the rumble of that crane swinging, as you see in that dramatic video, hitting that opposite side building and then eventually collapsing. i was told again from these workers that because there are spotters on the ground they were
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able to get everyone out of the way. and that may be actually what helped prevent so many injuries on the ground after this crane collapsed. you heard from the mayor, you heard from those officials that this could have been a lot worse. so it does seem that five people were injured, including some firefighters responding here to the scene. doesn't sound like there were any violations with this construction that was going on at this particular building, but certainly there's a lot of questions about what went wrong. it does appear to the workers, though, it was some sort of mechanical issue as they were loading that heavy concrete to bring up to one of those top floors where the crane was operating. again, five injuries and we will continue to figure out exactly what's going to happen here on the scene. k imagine the traffic around here is incredibly horrible for people who are trying to get to work in this midtown area, but most of these streets are cleared from people and it's just emergency vehicles and onlookers of this incredible incident that happened here in midtown manhattan. >> to that end we should say for folks who are not necessarily
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this morning bronny james the eldest son of lebron james is out of the icu and in stable condition after suffering cardiac arrest during basketball practice at usc. james was considered one of the top high school players in the country when he was recruited by usc. cnn chief medical correspondent dr. sanjay gupta is with us now. sanjay, you were with us yesterday when this was breaking. we now know not terribly much more about this case, specifically, but we have had a chance to look deeper into this phenomenon. i mean, how common is it for younger people to suffer something like this? >> you know, yeah, so if you look at what are called out of hospital sudden cardiac arrests, and specifically look at this age group of people, what you find is that this is data based back in 2015-2016 time frame, 6,000 to 7,000 of these sudden
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cardiac arrests occur roughly every year, about 39%, 40% are related to sports in some ways. we know it's more common in men, we know it's more common in sports and basketball is the sport that it's most closely associated with. as you get older sports become less of a factor and once you get over the age of 35 or so what is called a myocardial infarction or heart attack, blockage of blood vessels in the arteries that lead to the heart that becomes a more common cause of these heart problems. so sudden cardiac arrest in younger players, of,000 to 7,000, most closely aligned with sports but it changes as you get older. >> and the difference between cardiac arrest and a heart attack, because some people use the interchangeably. >> it's a good point and good question. sudden cardiac arrest think of that more like an electrical problem. if you look at the heart you
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have electrical -- electricity that's moving through the heart, that actually gets the chambers of the heart to coordinate pumping on time. pumping in a specific rhythm. that is like an electrical abnormality, it can cause a sudden problem, somebody might actually just lose consciousness, lose their pulse. they're just not responsive. that's a sort of thing where defibrillation, cpr is so critically important. which sounds like happened here, happened really quickly, which makes a big difference in terms of overall recovery. a heart attack, think of that more like a plumbing or circulation problem where you have these blood vessels on top of the heart, the coronary blood vessels, and one of them may become blocked or occluded, a plaque or blood clot, something can do that and cause a heart attack where parts of the muscle tissue die. now, when you have a heart attack on a myocardial infarction that can lead to a cardiac arrest but not all cardiac arrests are due to heart
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attacks or mis, myocardial infarctions. >> and what does recovery look like, sanjay? >> well, you knew, it's speculative at this point. i think the best news that we heard yesterday was that he was in the icu for a short period of time and then was released from the icu, which means the doctors thought he was stable, did not need any kind of intensive care anymore. that's a really good sign. you remember damar hamlin, for example, was in the icu for a few days. but what caused this? that's still the big question. that's what they're investigating now. they will look for these electrical problems in the heart. they will look to see if there was some sort of structural abnormality of the heart that to have caused this. that can take some time. depending on what it is, that will give a good chance of recovery for his overall heart but also the likelihood whether or not he will play again. >> dr. sanjay gupta, great to see you. thank you for all of this information. ra rahel? john, coming up for us, they've been described as a potential national security
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of the justice department's investigations into hunter biden's finances. so in just a few minutes a highly anticipated hearing that is being watched all around the world and maybe beyond. it is about ufos, unidentified flying objects, though they are now called uaps which used to mean unidentified aerial phenomena but now apparently means unidentified anonymous phenomena, but i dee guess. the committee holding the hearings calls ufos or uaps a potential national security threat. as of may the defense department said it was tracking more than 800 cases of unidentified uaps. shortly this house oversight subcommittee will hearing from three witnesses who served in the military. cnn has received a preview from one of the opening statements. one of the things they said was the uap we encountered and tracked on multiple sensors behaved in ways that surface
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passed our technology. i have no explanation for this. with us now is democratic congressman andre carson from indiana who held ground breaking hearings about uaps last year. congressman, thank you for being with us. there is a suggestion by the people holding this committee, the members holding this committee this morning that there is information being withheld from the american people, startling information, including perhaps the presence of alien spaceships in defense department custody. what evidence have you seen that information is being withheld from the american people? >> well, i want to say that i'm very happy that more public attention is focused on the issue of uaps this time on the house oversight committee, however, i would advise my republican friends leading this effort to do a lot more listening and not jumping to unfounded conclusions. though we understand the importance this have issue, i've been sounding the alarm for
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years, i held the first hearing in 50 years since project blue book, but we have to be careful about the kinds of questions that are raised. we shouldn't attempt to gain political points because our adversaries are listening. our adversaries and opponents are watching. they're looking for context clues to put together things in terms of where we're placing assets globally. so we have to be very careful because our national security is at risk. >> is information being withheld from the american people? >> well, you know, i'm -- am i certain that all of these sightings are aliens? of course not. but i do believe unidentified aerial phenomenon around our top secret military bases is a possible threat that they have to take seriously. i'd like to think that the information we provided to the public at our hearing inspired more people to take this issue
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very seriously. >> neil degrasse tyson who i would call a ufo skeptic, but is -- you know, i think he's someone who would very much like there to be proof of life out there, he says, do you know how many smartphones there are? there are like 6 billion smartphones in a world, each has a high resolution camera and video system. we're crowd sourcing an alien invasion were to one ever occur. i'm not convinced it's aliens but it's a fun mystery. if you are abducted you could stream that. then he tweeted cute cat videos go viral instantly. imagine video of an extra tres recent ship landing with aliens disembarking i'm thinking that would go viral, too. basically he's saying if there are visitations and spaceships and the like don't you think we would get a better look than the grainy video we're showing up on the wall? >> i'm a big fan of his work and he's certainly on to something. to add on to that, we have over
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4,000 satellites orbiting the earth, certainly if not from our footage some other country would have caught a ufo entering the earth's atmosphere, but the greater question is could these sightings be inter dimensional? we don't know. stay tuned. >> could they are inter dimensional, stay tuned. that's where i get hung up because if these seatings are legit why is it in our d block? how come congress is holdings any hearings on post office appropriations? wouldn't this be everything you are doing? >> hello. i mean, i'm in agreement. certainly when i think about indianapolis and my district we're thinking about jobs, the economy and growing our tech sector and eliminating food deserts. i'm interested in new information that may come out of this hearing plus more conversations in the future. hopefully it continues to receive the thoughtful bipartisan analysis it certainly deserves. >>
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us, as we all know from molder and scully, the truth is out there. >> john berman, i hope you never change. great interview. coming up next, the first post-partem depression pill and what researchers found and what it could mean for new mothers. researchers have found new evidence and a lot of it in the gilgo beach murder case after searching the suspect's home for days. we'll have the latest. all night long. for a limited time, sasave $500 on all-new tempur-breeze mattresses. we all need fiber for our digestive health, but less than 10% of us get enough each day. good thing metamucil gummies are an easy way to get prebiotic plant-based fiber. with the same amount of fiber as 2ups of broccoli. metamucil gummies the sy way to get your daily fiber.
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smothered with melty provolone cheese and served with hot au jus for dipping. try the roast beef or pastrami french dips today only at togo's soon the fda can approve a new post-partem drug that can help moms. the drug's makers are hoping to help the one in eight women who the cdc says report symptoms of depression after giving birth. post-partem depression can last up to a year after birth, but a recent trial shows this new drug is safe and effective for new moms. i want to bring in jacqueline howard. this can help a lot of people. what did the researchers find in the latest trial?
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>> yeah, rahel. this study not only showed that the drug was safe and effective, but it showed it works for some patients within three days which is much faster than the most commonly used antidepressants that some post-partem depression patients have described. what the study did is it looked at 190 women with post-partem depression. amonthe who took this drug for one day -- it was a daily pill for 14 days, by day 1557% of the women who took the ily pill saw a high improvement in their depressive symptoms and an improvement of 50% or more. among the women who took a placebo, only 38% saw that high improvement in their depressive symptoms and what this tell us rahel, if this pill if approved by the fda it lle the first drug specifically indicated for postpartum depression that's
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administered as an oral treatment and a daily pill that you can take at home and it would be the second medication approved specifically for postpartum depression and the first medication is zareso and that's administered as an iv infusion. this is a big step for postpartum depression treatment. all eyes are on the fda decision which is expected on august 5th. >> a lot to watch there. jacqueline howard, thank you. john? >> minuteses from now hunter bn expected in court expected to plead guilty to tax charges. a judge must agree to that agreement. this is developing now and an investigation now under way into the mysterious deaths of three marines. what we know after they were found in the same car in north found in the same car in north carolina. ♪ it takes two to make it outta sight ♪ ♪ one, two, get loose now ♪ ♪ it takes two to make a..... ♪ stay two nights and get a a $ 50 best western gift car. book now at bestwestern.com.m.
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♪ welcome back. we have some breaking news just in to cnn. a jury in the uk has reached a verdict in actor kevin spacey's sexual assault trial. he has been found not guilty on all counts of sexual assault. i want to bring in salma abdelaziz. this verdict coming out a short time ago. what else are you learning? >> just moments ago, rahel, and this has been a riveting case that has taken the jury nearly four weeks to hear what has been astounding evidence with kevin spacey defending himself against 12 charges that were brought forward by four men. those were later dropped down to nine offenses. i'm speaking about very serious charges here. three cowunts of indecent assault, one count of sexual assault and one count of

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