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b back to tie the netherlands. up next, portugal. "cnn this morning" starts right now. here is where we begin this hour. we have new cnn reporting this morning on senate minority leader mitch mcconnell, he has fallen more times this year than previously known. this report comes as the 81-year-old republican insists he is fine after he froze mid-sunshine yesterday for 23 seconds. >> we're on a path to finishing the nda this week. there's been good bipartisan cooperation and a string of --

>> are you good, mitch? >> you okay, mitch? anything else you want to say? >> mcconnell's fellow senators, you heard him there checking on him asking if he was all right. he it eventually return to the podium. >> could you address what happened at the start of the press conference, and was it related to your injury from earlier this year where you suffered a concussion? >> i'm fine. >> you're fine? you're fully able to do your job? >> yeah, yeah. >> so this is just the latest incident this year. in february he tripped and fell in helsinki while getting out of a car. that was just days before he fell in march, that happened at d.c.'s waldorf astoria hotel where he slammed his head s

suffering a concussion. du during a press conference in june he had trouble hearing reporters. >> what are your concerns as it relates to ai? >> repeat that again. >> on ai, are you concerned at all about artificial intelligence, and what are your concerns related to that? how should congress address it? >> what is my concern about? >> artificial intelligence. >> artificial intelligence. >> about what? i had a hard time hearing your voice. sorry. >> on artificial intelligence. >> ai? >> yeah, well, i think everybody's concerned about ai. >> earlier this month, mcconnell tripped and fell at reagan national airport in washington, d.c., while getting off a plane. yesterday as you saw he abruptly stopped speaking mid-sentence while at the podium. let's get to cnn congressional

correspondent lauren fox, obviously everyone first wants to know how his health is, how he's doing, and then there's the question that manu posed to him, are you able to do your job, to continue like this? >> he said repeatedly yesterday he was fine. he also said that later in the day as left his office. it had been several hours since the incident and as he departed for part of the day he was telling reporters that he got sandbagged trying to make a joke saying that the current president called him actually to check on him. here's mcconnell. >> the president called to check on me. i told him i got sandbagged. >> oh, nice, how are you feeling? >> any idea what happened? >> i'm fine. >> dehydrated. got to watch those sandbags. >> and all we know about what happened yesterday is what his office is telling us that he got

lightheaded, that he had to step away for a moment. when he came back, his office points out he was able to answer a series of questions very succinctly, able to continue with the press conference. he took a series of questions not just on his health but also on the impact impeachment, on the country and on the republican party. their point is that he's totally fine. as you point out, there have been a number of incidences over the last several months. he has been asked about his political future. our colleague manu raju back in may sat down with him for a story on the u.s. senate map, and he tried to sort of push mcconnell at that time about what his political future was. mcconnell didn't want to get into it. didn't want to answer the question, saying that this is not an interview about his political future. obviously there are a lot of questions about what happened yesterday. he did not answer repeated questions about whether he saw a

physician. his office did not answer those questions. we just are going to continue pressing to get more information on how the senator is doing, what his health status is and of course that larger looming question of does this affect his ability to do the job? >> i find it so interesting that his office will not confirm whether he saw a doctor to you, lauren. that is fascinating. that has been the number one concern you've seen from people, you'll also be pressing for that reaction on the hill. are people concerned about his role and whether he'll be able to carry it out. what have you heard so far? >> yeah, erica, if you talk to republicans who are very close with mcconnell, they will tell you that they have full trust in his ability to carry out his job. they say that, you know, they trust mcconnell to make decisions ability his own health, that they believe that he is making the best decisions that he can. but obviously it was a scary moment yesterday, and you saw in that video that as he's sort of

having this moment of freezing, there are colleagues who are checking on him, john borasso says mitch do you have anything else to say? are you okay? that is a moment where you can see sort of larger concern within his leadership team about that incident particularly. if you talk to them they say they believe in their leader. they say it is up to him to make decisions about his health and his future. >> lauren, appreciate the reporting. thank you. this morning hunter biden's legal fate is in serious question. this is after his plea deal collapsed at the last minute in this remarkable, really unprecedented court hearing yesterday. the federal judge put it on hold as the president's son was preparing to plead guilty to tax crimes to avoid prosecution on a felony gun charge. this hearing was supposed to be quick, 30 minutes, just a formality. it turned into an hours' long ordeal as the judge raised questions about this deal. >> she called it unusual, at one point asking if it was even

constitutional. so the judge said she would not be a rubber stamp there. the deal began to unravel when the judge asked if it gave hunter biden broad immunity for other possible crimes. when a prosecutor responded no, hunter biden's lawyer snapped back that in that case the deal would be null and void. let's bring in sara murray. i think a lot of people in reaction are wondering how did they even get to that point? >> this is not the day that anyone expected to have in court. hunter biden walked into that federal courthouse in delaware prepared to plead guilty to two misdemeanor tax charges and strike a deal to complete a program that would allow him to avoid a felony gun charge. as the judge was sort of pressing about what the scope of this deal encompassed, things began to fall apart, and "politico" obtained a copy of a version of this plea deal. cnn has not verified it's the fil rsion. i want to read you part it.

it gets into the scopef what this deal was supposed to encompass. it says the united states agrees not to criminally prosecutor bi reement for any federal crimes encompassed by the statement of facts. this agreement does not provide any protection against prosecution for any future conduct by biden or by any of his affiliated businesses. so as the judge is running through this, making sure hunter biden knows what he's pleading to. she says is this an ongoing investigation, and prosecutors confirm it is, and the judge says, so you know, you can't bring maybe charges against him for tax crimes, but could you bring charges against him for foreign lobbying, and the prosecutors say, yes, we could, and that is the point when the deal begins to fall apart. hunter biden's attorneys say that's not our understanding. they take a recess. they come to an agreement again about this deal, the prosecution and the defense. they say okay, we've reached a deal where prosecutors won't prosecute hunter biden for tax

crimes, they're not going to prosecute him for drug offenses and firearms offense. that is the scope of it. as the judge continues to look this over, she essentially says i'm not going to reject or accept it, but i want more information. she has given both sides 30 days to answer some of her questions and concerns about this plea deal. >> you've reported on this so closely for so many months, there's a world in which a plea deal does not come together, right, and where this could go to trial. >> there is of course a world, the way we saw yesterday play out, the way this deal fell apart, came back together, there's always the chance that this kind of thing goes to trial, which i don't think is necessarily what prosecutors want na nin this case. obviously it seems like hunter biden would like to avoid a

trial. i think what's most likely is both sides are going to go back and try to craft a plea agreement that they think is going to satisfy the judge, maybe make tweaks to the one they have or at least be able to answer the judge's questions more efficiently. you can't rule out the possibility this could be something that goes to tryial. again, because hunter biden was not able to get the deal signed off on, he did this pro forma move of pleading not guilty. >> let's bring in senior legal ana analyst, when you look at this, how do you get to the point where you show up in front of a judge and you have the doj and hunter biden's attorneys who have such a different view of what the agreement is they awe you wi -- all agreed to. >> it was a failure by lawyering, it was a failure by the donlj and hunter biden's

lawyer. the key language says hunter biden will not be further prosecuted for anything laid out in the statement of facts. if you look at that document, there is a statement of facts. it's about four pages and it lays out hunter biden's business history making millions of dollars from chinese companies and ukrainian companies and his drug use history. now, this is where the legalese comes in. there's play on this. doj apparently reads that to mean only the tax stuff that's talked about in the actual text. hunter biden's lawyers said, well we sort of understood it to mean anything in the periphery, anything that might touch on any of his foreign dealings at all. when the judge identified that, she said you don't have a deal. >> yeah. the judge here, meticulous in her questioning, a former patent attorney. it was really interesting to just hear as kara was coming out of the court and reporting that as this was going step by step. the question was ambiguity and how ambiguous this language is, and then the issue of potential

charges came up. can you explain what that is? >> i think the judge was the only person in the courtroom who did her job properly. when the judge was trying to explore this disconnect, what is he covered for, what is he not. the judge said would he be covered for the foreign agents registration act. if you are lobbying the u.s. government on behalf of a foreign government you have to register with doj. hunter biden had not registered. and doj said he's not covered for that, and hunter biden's team went, whoa, that's a problem, and that is crucial. is he still chargeable for this under their agreement or not, and when the judge identified that, she said, you all need to go back to the drawing board. >> can i just ask you why wouldn't they think that was possible. why wouldn't hunter biden's team think? this is anything but a normal case and that letter from david weiss said the investigation was ongoing. >> i think the answer is undue

optimism. i think they were hoping he would be covered. clearly they never had a direct conversation about this with prosecutors, which is not good practice by defense. a plea agreement is an agreement. it's a contract. it's the most important contract you will ever -- not you two, but one will ever -- >> i hope we never have a plea agreement, poppy. >> i hope. >> you never know. >> it's the most important contract one will ever in inteinenter into. the judge has to do her job, what you are buying here you have to fully understand. >> elie, appreciate it. we'll be checking in with you. >> i'll be back. >> yes, up. >> elie gets no breaks here. more than a third of the entire united states population under heat alerts. record smashing heat wave spreads from coast to coast. we'll take you live to south florida for the latest and this. ♪ nothing compares, nothing

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same city as putin. our nic robertson following it all. not exile in belarus? >> reporter: no, we know that cia director bill burns has said that he believed prigozhin had been in belarus, but was moving around including in russia. this is the first time we've seen per frigozhin in public. it appears to be a meeting with what appears to be a leader or member of african delegation in st. petersburg right now. 17 leaders and -- more than almost 50 different countries represented. who prigozhin is meeting there and he's looking very relaxed and smiling and that leader is looking relaxed and smiling, we don't know yet, we're working on that of course. but what we do know is just this week, prigozhin was speaking to an african media outlet and

telling them on a voice note that wagner, his mercenary company is still in business in africa. any company that is starting to do business will continue. wagner tied up with putin's interests in africa, and gold mining, central african republic, mali, mozambique, libya to name but just a couple, that prigozhin has been working for the kremlin essentially in these african states. here it is again, it appears as if he is very much still in business as he was telling this african media outlet earlier this week, making good, it seems with certain african leaders and potentially extending and still having an involvement in the kremlin's interests there. interesting in those comments prigozhin made was the only limit for wagner at the moment

was, and this is super interesting, is that they cannot do anything that contravenes the national interests of russia. is that the totality of the rap on the knuckles he got for that rebellion. >> keep your friends close, your enemies closer maybe. nic robertson, thank you ch. this brutal heat wave continues to smother the u.s. >> and this is probably the worst july we ever had. >> oh, my gosh, this is hell on earth i guess, it's just that hot. >> this is hell. we want heaven. >> this is unreal. day, night, never seen anything like it. >> you may be feeling exactly the same way as those folks and there are going to be more people feeling it today. 140 million americans under heat alerts, and there's also an emergency alert declared for the nation's largest power grid. that could impact electricity for 65 million people across 13 states and in washington, d.c. also new this morning, we've

learned president biden will meet with the mayors of phoenix and san antonio to talk about those soaring temperatures and also now some new measures to protect workers from extreme temperatures. the threat there is real. we probably don't have to tell you that, but take a look at some of this. in arizona a 25-year-old farm worker and father of two lost consciousness while working and later died. neighboring maricopa county said 25 people have died as a result of the heat so far. the county does encompass phoenix where temperatures reached 118 degrees yesterday. derek van dam is joining us live this morning from key biscayne, florida, we've been talking so much about the heat of the water even in florida. as this heat spreads, how much worse is it going to get? >> reporter: it is all about the heat, and people who thought that they were protected from this summer heat wave, well, it's coming for you, and i'm looking at you new york city, d.c., philadelphia. today is going to be an absolute

scorcher, dangerous heat. but we're in key biscayne, in miami specifically because of how that heat has transpired into our oceans directly behind us. we're following up on a very important story, a crucial environmental unfortunately catastrophe that is unfolding right before our eyes, the bleaching and eventual mortality of coral reefs, within this area. we'll highlight that in just one moment. did you know that 90% of excess greenhouse warming is actually stored within our oceans, and it was so apparent this week with temperatures skyrocketing over 100 degrees in the waters behind me. let's talk about the heat wave across the u.s. you mentioned phoenix, this is amazing, just three hours ago temperatures there dropped below 90 degrees fahrenheit for the first time in 16 days. they have never done that. think about what that means for your body, no opportunity to actually get cool overnight when your body anticipates that relief, right? look at this, excessive heat

warnings now issued for new york city. it has been 710 days since the last time that you've experienced heat just like this. this is certainly the hottest temperatures you have felt this summer so far. so prepare yourself, hydrate. you know the drill. it's all about the heat dome. it is moving eastward. places getting some relief, min minimal, but now the heat is going to impact places like st. louis, the eastern seaboard. if you look at the heat indices, this is what it feels like on your skin as you step outside. over 100 degrees for the entire atlantic seaboard. atlanta all the way to the big apple today. that is what we're concerned about and the reason i'm here is the water temperatures. don't forget about the thunderstorms today along the east coast. could bring a few tornados. it's the water temperatures, we're going to follow up with the coral reef experts today. find out if this coral bleaching is underway.

find out what's happening. it is a major environmental story for this area that has impacts far reaching not only protecting our coastlines from hurricanes but also the tourism industry in florida to say the least. >> tourism, fishing broad environmental and economic impacts. tributes pouring in for irish singer sinead o'connor, after her family announced she had died at the age of 56. ireland's public broadcaster released a statement from her family. they said they are devastated. o'connor rose to fame with her cover of prince's "nothing compares 2 u" ♪ nothing compares, nothing compares to you ♪ >> so many stars reacting to her death, singer melissa ethridge called it a tragedy and added that o'connor was haunted all her life. rem front man michael stiep said there are no words, and jamie lee curtis remembered her as a

warrior and a rebel. chloe melas is covering it all. what a life she led. >> not just the voice but the fact that she spoke truth to power. she was not afraid to speak up for what she believed in. let's go back to that infamous moment in the '90s, i believe in 1 1992 on "saturday night live" when she ripped up the photo of pope john paul ii that you see right there, and she told "the new york times" in 2021 it was bril brilliant. i don't regret it. and so she was speaking out about, you know, the sex abuse in the catholic church and these issues long before others, and she faced widespread criticism all over the world, but i also want to talk to you guys about this really tough past year for her. we're all moms, everybody out there has a loved one, right? last year she lost one of her children to suicide, and she spoke about it on twitter. she talked even recently on a twitter account that's unverified but, you know, it

appears to be her saying that she's lost her way, lost the meaning to live, and she was hospitalized after the suicide of her 17-year-old son shane, canceled her shows, but on her facebook page it appeared that she did want to get back out there this year, start touring and that she wanted to reconnect with her fans and that she had sort of found this reenergized part of her life, and also, she had just done a documentary with an incredible filmmaker that actually won many awards and debuted this past year. you guys can watch that on paramount and hulu and other places, and they're actually streaming it overseas this weekend. a really hard year for her. so we don't know the cause of death or the circumstances right now, but we know based on the statement from her family that they are asking for prayers and that this is a very tragic loss for them right now and that they

need prprivacy. >> yeah, and she had talked so openly about her own struggles, about the child abuse that she endured, about what she struggled with in terms of mental health. a lot more to get into. just sad overall for so many people. chloe, thanks. >> yeah. robert f. kennedy jr. was just grilled on capitol hill for spreading vaccine misinformation. so why is presidential candidate ron desantis now floating the name of rfk jr. to lead the country's most important health agencies? his reasoning. and a rematch of the 2019 world cup finale ended in a draw, but what a draw it was. we'll break down the highlights of the u.s. women's national match against the netherlands with two-time fifa women's world cup champ julie foudy.

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u.s. captain lindsey ran scoring a header in tlast nights world cup match against the

netherlands to tie the game. this highly anticipated matchup between defending champs, u.s. women's national team and the netherlands is a rematch of the 2019 world cup final. after a little bit of a rocky start, the u.s. rallied in the second half to pull off that tie. joining us now to take us through some of the highlights, tnt soccer analyst and two-time fifa world cup champion julie foudy. i was watching highlights this morning since it was a little past my bedtime, what a game but also it was a little bit of a struggle in the first half it seems. >> yeah, it was a lot of a struggle in the first half, actually. it was very clunky. and we haven't really seen the best of the u.s. team yet in this tournament, and so we saw this in the first half, typically against better teams the u.s. does better, but they struggled a little bit in the first half. came out in that second half and had a brighter start in it, saw that goal by lindsey horan actually gave them the big lift. but overall, it still wasn't a great performance for the united

states, and they thought coming into this game they had a win in their first game so they were sitting on three points. another win against the netherlands would have clicnche the group for sure. now they find themselves in a more precarious position. >> do you think this motivates them against -- it's portugal, right, next? or tdoes the clunkiness affect them and make them more clunky? >> hopefully no, hopefully they come out and have a really good performance against portugal. the thing is they know -- they really -- they have to win or tie. if they lose against portugal, they are out of it. portugal sits at 3 points, the u.s. is at 4 points. it's in their hands still, of course, but thaey've got to geta win or a draw out of it. they were hoping that came into this last game in probably a

better position. they'll be a bit disappointed in that. they just couldn't get that three points. it's still in their hands there's still a lot to be optimistic about. they could get through easily against portugal. this is their first tournament, first time at a world cup. i'm not going all negative. >> no, no, no, we're definitely looking glass half full here. definitely not done yet. as you mentioned, there are a lot of players on this team for whom this is their first world cup. what do you think those conversations are, especially from some of the more seasoned players as they move towards that next match? >> yeah, well, you have 14 players on this roster of 23 who are in their first world cup. but you also have the likes of megan rapinoe who didn't see time on the field today, and kelley o'hara and alex morgan who played today. you do have a lot of good veteran players. those three alone have played in four world cups. this is their fourth world cups. so they are having a lot of conversations right now saying,

hey, look, not the performance we wanted but we're going to be fine. we're going to be fien. they're talking, you know, in the locker room and hallways and in hotel rooms about the fact that this is what this u.s. team does. they're resilient, they come back. i think you will see a very resilient fighting group in this last match against portugal. >> i'd put the smart money on them. thank you very much. hunter biden's plea deal now on hold. does it also provide another opening for republican lawmakers who slammed the agreement. we're going to take a look at that how it's playing politically scott jennings and john avlon here in the studio with us next. the all-new tempur-pedic breeze makes sleep feel cool. so, no more sweating all night... ...or blasting the air conditioning. because the teur-breeze feels up to 10° cooler, all night long.

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so this morning something t that -- 24 hours hunter biden does not have a plea deal, and is no closer to putting his legal woes in the rearview mirror. while his legal team scrambles to find a fix after yesterday's hearing essentially fell apart, republicans are pouncing. it is giving the party to cry foul over an alleged sweetheart deal. listen to this. >> i think it's all driven by the whistle-blowers and just how credible those individuals are and the fact that their testimony has not wavered. >> it collapsed because it was a sweetheart deal from a family

that was being protected. >> hunter biden is getting a sweetheart deal that no other american who wasn't rich and had the father as a president would ever get. >> if you believe the whistle-blowers and what they're saying know this was a sweetheart deal. it was corrupt in terms of how it was handled. >> one of those whistle-blowers is going to join us on the program later. in court nothing came up about the whistle-blower allegations. all three parties, the judge, the prosecutors and the defense counsel all agree this judge and court and hearing had no say or power to reinvestigate given those allegations by the whistle-blowers. okay. let's discuss what we know from this court hearing. john avlon, scott jennings. he spoke with the minority leaderpodium, we're going to talk to him about that in a moment. but first to hunter biden.

they know what happened in court. they know that the whistle-blower's allegations were not at all part of why this fell apart. but they're saying it anyways. >> well, i think fundamentally republicans believe there's so much more there with hunter biden that this plea agreement as it had been reported was simply not sufficient. >> that's fine, but that's not why the judge questioned it. >> sure. but to them i mean, look, they're not here to give you a legal analysis. they're here to give you the best political spin on this, and the political spin for them is true. hunter biden was involved in a lot of issues involving foreign entities, a lot of money changed hands. there's been a lot of allegations about who knew what, why were they getting this money, foreign entanglements so for them to continue to talk about this, they think there's a direct link to joe biden. and so i suspect it's going to be an ongoing topic for the republicans. i'm glad z the judge stood up f herself on this and didn't get

pot steam rolled. this foreign lobbying issue, it's a real issue, there are legitimate questions about whether he skirted that one. >> there are also questions this is still an ongoing investigation which is part of why it fell apart. shan wu pointed out there was sort of a little win. the fact this is an ongoing investigation, that may make it harder for republicans to get some of the information they're after. >> that may be the case. it really illustrates the mislawyering that occurred. the hunter biden defense team thought everything was going to be covered with very little basis. and this plea agreement essentially was about taxes and guns and they thought it would cover everything, and there was very little reason for them to believe that, especially given that as you pointed out earlier, david weiss, the prosecutor appointed by the trump administration originally said there was an ongoing investigation. they apparently hadn't clarified

that. republicans will look for political gain. there may be reasons to investigate the larger questions of money further, but this was a fundamental lawyering with a lot of political implicationisimpli. don't expect republicans to have -- to the fact of the case over the narrative they're trying to pursue. >> they would say the facts of the case haven't been fully given to the public. republicans on capitol hill think there's a lot of information being hidden from the public. that's why they had the whistle-blowers come to ko congress. >> joseph ziegler will be here in the 8:00 a.m. hour. >> for as long as this has been going on republicans have believed a lot of things are being hidden from the public to are protect joe biden and so more facts are coming out, and that's a good thing. transparency here for joe biden. he's the president. it's deserved. >> can -- you talked to mitch mcconnell yesterday, even is worried because he froze for 23 seconds at the podium, and this

comes after several falls and a concussion. is he okay? >> he's okay. i talked to him yesterday evening. you know, after he had his moment at the podium, he went back to the press conference and answered several questions. he was telling me about his schedule yesterday, after the press conference he met with kevin mccarthy, then he had several meetings. then he called me. late last night he went down to the floor and they had some votes on ndaa. he was down there for a while. he did more yesterday than i did after his moment. i've spent a fair amount of time with him. i talk to him and communicate with him fairly often. he sounded fine on the phone. he was telling me about all the things he was going to get done this week. i didn't detect anything other than normal mitch mcconnell. >> anyone else in his orbit raising concerns to you? >> anytime you see somebody that you care about have a moment, of course you have concerns. i've known this man since i was 16 years old and care about him very much. of course you have concerns, but i had the benefit of actually getting a chance to talk to him

and hear his voice and listen to him talk about what he was doing with himself yesterday and over the next few days, and he didn't sound like somebody who was any different to me than i've known him for the last several months. i've spent some time with him since his fall and he sounded like a guy who was very focused on his job. >> look, this is the kind of thing that should be understood by americans to be well beyond par partisan politics. it was hard to watch. i think all folks should wish him well and recovery and good health. i think that's the kind of spirit we need to see more of in politics. >> we heard that from chuck schumer yesterday as well. thank you both very, very much. we'll continue to follow that. also happening, some pretty out of this world statements being made during a house hearing on ufos. >> biologics came with some of these recoveries, yeah. >> were they i guess human or non-human biologics?

>> non-human. >> non-human. that's what a former u.s. intelligence official said about what the government may know, may have in its possession. a lot of talk about what we call ufos, the real term, uaps. we're going to get into all of that just ahead. (energetic music plays) there he is! it's right there! ♪ oh, he's straight ahahead. he's straight ahead. straight ahead. go go go. ♪ cover more ground in the kia sportage turbo-hybrid. kia. movement that inspires. ♪ ♪ ♪ voltaren. the joy of movement. ♪

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so what you're about to hear may sound more like it's something from the x files, remember that tv show? it has nothing to do with hollywood or tv. this is being said on capitol hill, at a house oversight subcommittee hearing which was held yesterday, testimony from three former military officials there talking about uaps, unidentified aerial phenomena. we may call them ufos. one of the people who testified is david grush, a former u.s. intelligence official who worked on the pentagon's task force that's been looking into uaps. he claimed under oath that he has been told the government is not only in possession of a non-human spacecraft but also what he referred to as non-human biologics. >> we have the bodies of the pilots who piloted this craft. >> as i've stated publicly already in my news nation iolog

some of these recoveries. >> were they i guess human or non-human biologics? >> not human and that was the assessment of people with direct knowledge that are currently st the program. >> have you seen any of the bodies? >> that's something i've not witnessed myself. >> in a statement, a pentagon spokeswoman said the task force has, quote, not discovered any verifiable information to substantiate those claims. let's bring in professor ofs a tro physics at the university of rochester, he's also the author of "the little book of aliens" that explores the age old question of whether we are alone in this universe or not. thank you for being here. i wonder what you make his testimony? >> well, first of all, it's great that people are interested in the stuff i study as a scientist, you know, in terms of life in the universe, but the real question is does any of

what we heard yesterday from a scientific point of view point to life in the universe outside of earth, and the answer is no in terms of hard data. you know, the groesh testimony, if you look at the history of ufos this is a rvery old. even in the 1950s, the military commander who was in charge of that a year later, two years later after he retired published a book that there was a top secret document, this is not new of people saying, oh, i've heard from somebody who heard from somebody, but there's never any evidence. it's great they have these hearings. i think it's great that we try and get, you know, below the government, your h know, whatev is going on with government when it comes to this. i think it's quite possible in 70 years we're going to still

have hearings and there will sf still be tho spaceship. >> you want to show me the spaceship, show me the science. we spoek with one of the fighter f pilots. he wants not even greater transparency, but he wants it to be easier for folks to come forward when they see something. how important is it that they see an avenue that does not come with some form of retaliation, which is a fear for many people? >> you know, i want to distinguish between the grosh testimony which says we have alien spaceships in somebody's garage and the pilots. i think the pilots were very courageous for coming forward. the only way you're going to be able to figure out what these things are, it's much more likely about national defense than life on another planet, is by having these kinds of open conversations. you know, when science looked at these, when that nasa panel looked at that one you're showing right now, when it came out, that video people are like

oh, my god, what is this thing? it traveled so fast. you do a little science and it turns out to be going 40 miles per hour, that's a pretty weak alien if that's what that is. the pilot testimony i think is so important. when we look at these kinds of events, we find that only 6% are unexplainable, right? the other 94% are explainable. it's the kind of they thinks the pilots talked about yesterday, those kinds of sightings lie in that 6%. the only way to solve this is to have open, transparent science, a and that's the way we'll figure out what these things are. it shouldn't detract from what's going on in science right now, which is where using the james webb space telescope we're at the verge of being able to find life on distant alien planet where is you expect alien life to be. >> do you think this hearing was beneficial for the american people? >> excuse me? i'm sorry, i didn't hear that. >> do you think this hearing was beneficial for the american

people yesterday? >> yeah, i think it's good that people talk about this. there's been so much obfuscation, the whole history of ufos, there's pretty crazy stuff going on with that. i think it's great this comes out. i think it's great for people with the nasa panel to see how science works. that's the most important part of this. for people to understand how science reaches its conclusions because, look, science is why airplanes don't fall out of the sky and why your medicines don't kill you, and so this most important question, people have been arguing about life in the universe for 2,500 years, and you know, we don't want to believe, we want kto know. this opens up for people understanding how the science works and how we'll reach that conclusion, which will probably be through telescopes not through looking at the sky. i think it's great.ican public understand how science works so we don't have more science denial. >> thank you very much for joining us. look forward to reading the little book of aliens.

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hanging in limbo, raising new questions about where this leaves the president's son and his legal team. she says she wasn't sure it was constitutional. >> the whole point of plea agreements is to ensure that the defendants' rights are protected. >> the only thing the judge decided is this is not a deal. questions about the health of senate minority leader mitch mcconnell, after he stopped talking mid-sentence and froze during a news conference. >> the president called to check on me, i told him i got sandbagged. >> this is not the first health scare. >> time really does matter in terms of preventing this from happening in the future. president biden will meet with the mayors of phoenix and san antonio about the brutal heat as more than 140 million americans are under heat alerts. >> this is hell, we want heaven. >> i can't imagine being out for more than ten minute s. >> this is going to be the most extreme heat we've experienced certainly in recent memory. i would estima