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indictment watch. for the former president of the united states is in full effect. today, donald trump's attorneys met face-to-face with special counsel jack smith. we're told the former president's lawyers were aiming to delay a potential indictment in smith's probe of trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election. which he lost. that wasn't the only high-stakes meeting in the case today. the grand jury also convened for the first time this week, of course, the grand jury is the one considering this. still a lot of news to get to. we're covering the story only the way cnn can with full team coverage. senior justice correspondent evan perez and legal analyst norm eisen. and lauren fox on capitol hill. and kristen holmes not far from

bedminster, new jersey, were donald trump spends a chunk of his summer. evan, first to you, what was discussed, what was not? >> we know this is a meeting that went about an hour, kaitlan collins was told by sources that the goal here was for the trump team to argue the effect that an indictment like this would have on the country. the argument, the larger argument here, being that this would be, obviously, detrimental, obviously given the campaign. this is something you've heard from the president, the former president, already, on the campaign trail. the larger goal here, though, was to try to find a way to delay this. their view was, you know, try to not have it happen today. and then perhaps by some additional weeks, have the special counsel at least wait a few more weeks. now, we all know that the strategy, the legal and political strategy of the former president has been the delay tactic. right. and certainly, you push this forward a few more weeks, you know, close to the first

republican debate. and, of course, you're looking at a trial at a future date when probably the first republican primary voters are going to be having their say, and you have this -- you know, you have this juxtaposition of joe biden's justice department, right, the justice department that he appointed prosecuting the former president, his chief rival at the time when voters are already getting to have their say. so, that's part of the political and legal strategy that's at work here. we don't know in the end whether this is going to be successful. we know that the trump team left with no assurances that there would be an indictment or not an indictment. they were told either way. >> look, it's already a fact he has been indicted by this justice department for the alleged mishandling of classified materials. the truth social posting today, norm eisen, i believe we have it, he mentions in that truth

social posting that he had lawyers around him. rs he said it was a productive meeting with the doj. you see that there, i was advised by many hoyers, ben ginsberg, gop lawyer, said in the last hour, he reads into that if you want to call that, indict my lawyers, not me. do you read that similarly? >> i do and obsessing beyond delay and beyond the country of divisive prosecution in the midst of a political season, there's technical arguments that we know were made today. i practiced law for years. criminal defense with john laurel who was one of the trump lawyers in the room today. for sure, john and the other trump lawyers and you saw that in the truth social posting are arguing advice of counsel. and that can be a very potent defense in a case of this kind, where trump is going to say i had the best layers in the

country. john eastman was a very conservative and reputational expert. he told me this was okay. i relied upon rudy giuliani. other lawyers were involved. lawyers were on the call that i had, the very controversial call to brad raffensperger on january 2nd. another very prominent, very conservative election lawyer was on that, cleta mitchell. that's not going to work, though, jim. and neither are the other arguments that were likely advanced today. there's very substantial rejoinders on advice of counsel. the answer is, you can't use a lawyer to advance something that you know, or reasonably should know was a crime. and so many other lawyers told trump you can't do this. and it's already been adju adjudicated in a federal court in a different context by eastman. i don't think that's go to work or immunity or defiance.

>> by the way, white house counsel advised against it. we do want to get more of your thoughts about john laurel, you worked with him for some time, the newly minted trump attorney. first to kristen holmes, trump repeatedly said he didn't want this meeting to take place, now he says it was a productive discussion? >> reporter: yeah, that's right, boris, he didn't want this to take place because he felt that this indictment was already a done deal given the fact he had received that target letter. so today, he's on social media taking control of that narrative. he wants to be the one who sets the tone for what he's going through. he's the one who announced that he received a target letter in many of these cases. he's the one who said he was indicted. he does not want this to come from the media. there's a lot coming out from the media, he wants to take control of the narrative putting out there there was a productive

meeting. and also talking about how his lawyered advised the justice department that he shouldn't be charged. that he's destroying this country. that's something that we heard as well. i know evan mentioned what is happening in the meeting. the thing we're hearing now, this is what is so interesting, i'm getting texts from the trump advisers senting me tweets, asking me what is going on with the legal stuff. are we hearing anything on timing. that just goes to show you they're very uncertain what exactly the next steps are. and we should make no mistake that they do believe that the former president is likely, more than likely, to be indicted in the case. he received the target letter. but they do not know what it looks for in terms of timing. and they did not leave notification of any indictment, something that trump confirmed in that truth social post. right now, they're asking questions could this happen today, could this happen this week. is this something we're going to

continue waiting for. and they simply don't know the answer right now. >> david chalian joining us right now. david, as you know, many republicans publicly criticized trump for his actions on january 6. before and after, mitch mcconnell at the time, the senate leader, still today, on the floor, during the second impeachmentcoriating the former president. >> with the speech. >> with the actions and responsibility. so my question is if the former president is indicted on his actions around january 6 is it still appropriate politically for republicans to criticize him to special counsel? >> i think the answer, it's not for them to do so. we saw lot of republicans who criticized in the aftermath of january 6. some of them like kevin mccarthy went down to mar-a-lago thereafter to beg for his --

>> we saw that, less than a month. >> so i don't think it's so difficult for them to take a different position if it serves what they believe will serve them politically. >> imagine that, david chalian have you heard that before? let's get perspective from capitol hill, our lauren fox is there. lauren, it's notable because a lot of these lawmakers were at risk on january 6. many of them have talked about their fears of those rioters getting close to them and the danger they were in. >> reporter: yeah, obviously, this is very different from the lawmakers and the documents case. this is the dynamics. we should paint this picture for you, the house of representatives right now is on its last vote before a month's long recess. so the expectation, of course, many of them probably wouldn't be in town if an indictment would come down anytime soon. that gives you the defense on capitol hill, lawmakers are finishing up their work in the house and then they're going to

head home. you can expect the playbook is going to look similar to what we have seen in the past. you're going to have allies of former president trump coming out defending him if he were to be indicted but you're also going to have republicans questioning the justice department, the organization of the justice department. and that is a playbook that we have seen time and time again. and it's something that's going to play out in the months ahead. because if you remember, house republicans and democrats are going to have to pass spending bills in order to fund the government by the end of the month. there's no big power that congress has than the power of the court. expect there's a lot more to unfold in the next weeks and months. >> norm eisen, there's a number of potential charges that the former president could be indicted on here, including conspiracy, attempts to disrupt an official proceeding, et cetera. based on the evidence you've seen presented so far, by the way, i should acknowledge, not a mebl member of the grand jury, so there's evidence that they would

have heard, certainly, you would not, based on what you've seen on the outside, what is most likely? >> well, we know from reporting on the target letter that there are three charges that special counsel jack smith is focusing on, 18usc-271, conspiracy to defraud the united states because donald trump alleged role in getting things like fake elector certificates that's no different than counterfeit cash. 1 18ufc -- >> i hate to interrupt you, but we did get news, confirmation officially that there will be no news of an indictment today from the grand jury. so, it may take a bit longer, but, norm, is this inevitable now that we're going to see an indictment, a third indictment of the former president, this one over trying to overturn the 2020 election? >> it is inevitable, boris. i mean, there's always a

theoretical prospect that you talk the prosecutors out of an indictment in a meeting like you had today, here, given the overwhelming nature of the evidence, over those statutes we were talking about -- the third statute, 18 usc-271 in that letter. civil rights conspiracy because donald trump was allegedly trying to take away 81 million votes for biden, substitute himself. with that law being strong and the publicly known evidence being so strong an indictment is a sh certainty here. once the meeting happens we're in the countdown. >> attorneys are anticipating that the tactic is to delay it. >> that's a frequent trump tactic through the years that we've seen through legal proceedings, the significance, our understanding we will not see a decision today, and we don't know what that is, but we

will not see that today. does that follow past practices even going back to the documents case? >> nothing, really. there's no playbook, right. that's the first thing. here's what we know, according to a court official, there won't be any indictments handed down today. there was none today. and we don't expect one -- we don't know what that means. we do know that the grand jury was in. we know that they spent most of the day there. i think they're about to leave right now. so the question of what this portends, you know, i don't know. the fact remains that the former president is still very likely to be indicted. but there's a lot of things that -- that could be at play here, including the fact that the simple thing of taking a meeting with his legal team, norm and i were talking about this just before we went on air. you know, there is this sensitivity about is it appropriate to do an indictment when you've just done a meeting.

>> right. >> should you give it at least some time to talk about it right. and discuss it. it is a slap in the face if you needily go straight from the meeting to an indictment. >> i'm assuming. just procedural, it does not have to be unanimous decision in the grand jury, is that right? >> no, it doesn't. but here's the thing. the grand jury votes and hands out the indictment. presents it -- the prosecutors presented to the judge. and the judge signs off on it. that's the procedure. >> yeah. >> that does not -- again, that did not happen today. but it doesn't mean that the justice department -- you know, we don't know if they asked for it and got rejected. there's a lot of different possibilities. >> yeah. >> we cannot speculate on that. the issue does remain, though, we had people in the courtroom today and were watching very closely for what happened. what we know, they did not even get to that close. >> let's go live to one of those

reporters at the courthouse, katelyn polantz has been watching people coming in and out of black suvs all day, walking in and out of doors. what's the latest you hear, katelyn, about the news we're not going to get an indictment today? >> reporter: yeah, so what we are hearing today just that there was a grand jury in. we know that, we know that there was special counsel's office prosecutors right here in the courthouse in secret proceedings. they hadn't been in earlier this week. they had a flurry of witnesses last week. as the afternoon wore on, typically in the afternoons, that's when the grand juries meeting here on a daily basis looking at cases make their returns. they have approved indictments, and those indictments go to a judge for sign off and get into the court system. there were no indictments handed out today from the grand jury to any judge in the courthouse. and there are none expected to happen today.

that is something that was told to us by a court official who was inside the building and came out, was waiting to see if that proceeding happened. and then came out and told myself and several other members of the press that was indeed what was happening here. so, we just don't know what this means. you know, one of the things about the grand jury and court is that it can be very unpredictable. that is because grand jury proceedings are confidential. who is on the grand jury is confidential. the witnesses that they hear from are confidential unless we're able to get some reporting that we bring to you around that. but a lot of the time, what is being brought into the grand jury, what the grand jury is doing. what they're asked to be doing, especially on a day-to-day basis is quite a secret proceeding. so that is in this place we are now, where we know that there's a grand jury that had convened. we know that there is the possibility of an indictment against the former president, being brought through the judicial system because he was

informed he was so very likely to be charged by the special counsel's office here. but we just do not have something that has emerged from the federal courthouse and the grand jury's work today. >> there's a reason it's secret. it's a good one. but we know you're going to continue to stay on top of it. everyone, thanks so much to help walking us through this. i'm sure you'll be back again. ahead this hour on "cnn news central," a curious picture of yevgeny prigozhin, the mercenary leader who launched a mutiny against putin almost all the way to moscow last month. not only has been spotted in russia, but in the very same city as vladimir putin, the leader he tried to over throw. what exactly is he up to? and the latest heat wave, and the power grid declares an emergency a warning sign as it's expected to get hotter in coming days. and then after suddenly freezing during a press

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learn more and view important safety information at inspiresleep.com we're following a couple of major developments in russia. and it's inprovoked war in ukraine. kyiv is now ramping up its counteroffensive after months of making slow progress. one u.s. official says ukraine is now committing the main bulk of its forces to the counteroffensive. as a surprising twist, yevgeny prigozhin has reportedly been spotted in russia. remember him? it's the first time since the wagner mercenary fighters launched a failed mutiny last month. in an added twist, prigozhin is said to have appeared in the same russian city as vladimir putin. the target of his armed rebellion. cnn's nic robertson is in london.

it's stunning, not only that prigozhin is alive, he's being photographed in the same city as vladimir putin. >> reporter: and he's being photographed with one of the -- appears to be because of the lanyard around his neck, delegates to the conference that president putin is holding there. it flies in the face of what a lot of people expected, that uprising, that mutiny, putin accused prigozhin of treachery, in essence, saying there could be scomevere consequences. and a deal we don't know the details of where prigozhin and wagner mercenaries were going to be sent out to belarus. and they're no longer fighting on the front lines in ukraine. you but prigozhin has this sort of cod up his sleeve if you will, a trade that he can do with putin it appears, because prigozhin had the wagner

mercenary group, they were in african, they were helping the kremlin, helping putin cement deals with african leaders in mali and mozambique and sudan and other countries. part of those deals meant there was gold, diamonds in russia, and it's not clear what happened to that. prigozhin had deals in africa wrapped up intrinsically tied to the kremlin's interests. this is what appears to be playing out he's on the margins of this big africa conference. still reportedly meeting with key players in deals he's made. he's on the record saying wagner is still working in africa. so, is this some part of a deal? it just seems bizarre. putin threatened severe consequences. it doesn't look very severe at the moment. >> and notably, only 17 of 43 nations that were invited to this conference actually showed up, something that our sources indicate has infuriated the

kremlin. vladimir putin is also commenting upon the ukrainian counteroffensive today. what is he saying? >> reporter: yeah, he's got his own counternarrative, i guess no surprise in that. even russian generals and journalists with the generals on the russian side have said that the ukrainians have stepped up their attack. they're using up to 100 armored vehicles and tanks on the front lines, and they've actually made one gain. they've taken a village over the front line. that is not insignificant. putin has this complete counternarrative. he says 50 vehicles. and we destroyed 26 tanks and 1300 armored vehicles and the losses ten times higher than ours. that flies in the face of all of the other information we're getting. the ukrainians have made these gains. putin says that they haven't. the losses have been typically on the russian side. so, how significant is this push? i think we need to see it play

out more. but the fact as you say the ukrainians have now committed the bulk of their forces to the front line and this push. and increase in artillery barrages over the past few days indicates there is a new push by the ukrainians and can they make it work, that's the key right now. >> that would not be the first time the russians fudged the numbers or reality of facts on the ground. nic robertson, thank you so much. jim. well, just sweltering heat, unrelenting triple-digit temperatures. if you're feeling like this is the hottest month you've ever experienced, you're right. any of us. scientists say july is set to become the warmest month ever recorded in history. nearly half the population is now under heat advisories and the nation's largest power grid just put out an emergency alert as it tries to keep up with unprecedented demand. "the new york times." writer and author of uninhabited

life of earth afterwarming, david wells. thank you for being here. >> nice to be here. >> if you had spoken to climate scientists ten years ago, about what the world would look like now, what we're experiencing is at.bad end of the spectrum what will they were thinking about the effects of climate change. you can put that in context for us? is it so bad now? is it going to get worse? >> well, unvariably it's going to get worse because the planet is going to keep warming and burning fossil fuels. we have an industrial revolution with the noble power unfolding around the world. we still barely made a dent in use of fossil fuels globally which means we're still roughly in a peak for global carbon emissions. that means we're going to have more heat, hotter years to come.

we're going to be honestly surprised in many of these years the intensity of extremes that we see. my memorable conversation a years ago with one of the lead authors of u.s. climate assessment he said there's good news, we're going to end up in this century 2 1/2 degrees plummeting to where we were a few years ago. we're also learning much more when the dramatic impacts are happening. those are happening at lower intensity levels which means we're seeing temperature levels like we're seeing today. unfortunately, that's going to continue. and it's going to keep getting hotter and we're going to keep dealing with the consequences. >> is there a vicious cycle aspect those? you of course know this better than me, things like it's temperature rising, the ice melts, and those accelerate the effects of things. in other words, if the ice is going to melt quicker. you know, the currents are going

to change more quickly. and that's going to cause quicker changes to the weather and temperatures we experience every day. >> well, you know, most residents would say that we should worry about those tipping points and those feedbacks, we should worry about if we trigger those in the climate system. we're probably not at the brink of triggering them at a rapid pace at the moment. we might have to worry about some of those thing -- there was a paper this week suggesting that some of the ocean circulation patterns may be disrupted as soon as the middle of the century, or even sooner. there are worries about some of the ice melting and that affects how much sun is absorbed in the higher latitude oceans, how much will be reflected back. that can make a difference in heating the planet up faster. but generally speaking, i would say the conventionalism, at this moment, 1.2, 1.3 degrees celsius

warming, the main driver in the atmosphere that mean our hands are still on that lever in controlling that temperature rise. in the future, we've had past points where we were less in control, but at the moment, the main driver, not natural systems that are spiraling out of control. that said, we're already seeing -- if they're not quite off the charts events they're up in the 95 percentile kind of events on a more local level. the particular heat waves and particular floods are coming in more intensely than expected even if the system as a whole is performing inline perhaps to high end of expectations. >> i'm going to take what you said there, that little bit of hope what we do now matters and can make a difference. i hope people are listening to that as well. last thing we want to do is give up. david wallace-wells, thanks so much. >> thank you. >> boris. one day an senate minority leader mitch mcconnell froze during a press conference, at

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the oldest black u.s. fraternity in the nation is now pulling its 2025 convention from orlando, florida. alpha phi alpha incorporated blame the, quote, harmless, racist and insensitive against the black community from governor ron desantis. the fraternity specifically noted the recent decision by the florida board of education to mandate that educators teach the benefits of american slavery. you heard that right. that slaves learned useful skills somehow. alpha phi alpha has more than 720 alumni chapters and is currenting holding its convention in dallas. joining me is willis lonzo iii. dr. lonzo, since you lodged this decision here. i wonder what the response has been? >> i've seen a lot of -- and thank you, jim, for having me on your program this afternoon. we heard a lot of favorable

support from the community around our decision to pull out of orlando, florida. the black community, the marginalized communitied around the world of black and brown peoples are not just going to accept these types of racist rhetoric and policies. and they applauded our decisions to make an economic impact. >> dr. lonzer, can you help folks understand exactly what the change is in how aspects of slavery will be taught in florida schools? just so folks who may not have followed this closely understand exactly what the change in language was. >> well, the summary of this curriculum change is that to suggest that those who were enslaved benefits from being in slavery, as if they came into this chattel slavery system, without any skills or any type

of labor perception. and that's quite the opposite. we know that people came from the mother continent, through the chattel slavery system here in the united states with skills that they garnered there on the mother continent some the various countries that they came from. the implication here with that policy is absolutely ignorant or divisive or both. not to suggest that people benefitted from such a level of chattel slavery system. and more importantly, a brutalized existence as if to suggest that they benefited from it, when it's quite the opposite. it was oppressive, it was divisive, and it broke a number of families up as a part of their whole systemic operation. >> for centuries, right? it seems to be in attempt to soften the brutality. >> absolutely. >> brutality of it all. now, when you have contested

this decision with florida education officials, how have they responded? how have do they defend it? >> well, as we've heard through various press releases, the understanding is they seem to be cooperating with the governor. perhapsal biding within thperha abiding in their political environment in getting along with governor desantis. but it's not an acceptable decision. individuals must employ the appropriate courage to stand up for what is right and what is historically accurate that african americans, black people, people from the caribbean, came to this nation through chattel slavery and helped to build it. any other depiction is just absolutely and utterly false. and i think that there is a narrative that exists that is

truthful, that shows that the reality is, that this suggestion that there was a benefit is absolutely absurd. >> yeah. all you got to do is read the history books, dr. lonzer, alpha phi alpha, thank you for joining us today. >> thank you, thank you, jim. we appreciate the time. >> always welcome. so, anheuser-busch is laying off hundreds of employees as it grapples with slumping of bud light sales. the beermaker will eliminate 2% of its workforce over a marketing campaign that teacher transact that visit dylan mcveinny and touts bud light as the top selling beer in the united states. cnn's vanessa yurkevich joins us now. vanessa, what more do we know about the layoffs? >> well, anheuser-busch announcing 2% of the company is

being laid out, 380 or show employees in a company that employs 19,000 people. anheuser-busch says it's only affecting people on the corporate side, not front line workers, those faux in the breweries, drivers and field sales staff. the company says they're doing this to streamline the company and do awawith any reduncies. as you mentioned this comes after slumping sales. e mpany is saying that is not in fact the reason however we do know the sales at the week of july 15 is down 29%. and year to date, bud light sales down 13.6%. as you mentioned this comes after bud light sent a customized bud light can to transgender activist dylan mcveinny who posted on social

media. conservatives were enraged about this, and the lgbtq community felt that bud light did not come to the defense of what they did giving her this bottle of bud light. one analyst telling us, boris, it is not looking pretty for bud light and anheuser-busch ahead. >> hundreds of workers now jobless because of this, vanessa yurkevich, thank you very much. jim. just ahead on "cnn news central," will a teen age school shooter be sentence as an adult. the judge is deciding that right now. we'll l take you live to michig. the all-new tempur-pedic breeze makes sleep feel cool. so, no more sweating all night... ...or blasting the air conditioning. because the teur-breeze feels up to 10° cooler, all night long. for a limited time, save $500 on all-new tempubreeze

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one of the senate's top-ranking republicans dodging an important question, whether mitch mcconnell should run for leadership again. this comes after the republican leader froze in front of reporters yesterday for nearly 30 seconds, the 81-year-old senator did not speak. he was barely blinking. and after taking a short break, he later on said that he was fine. and answered reporters' questions. well, today, he's showing no signs of slowing down his commitments including this photo op with the italian prime minister taken a short time ago. cnn has learned that mcconnell fell multiple times this year. on top of the widely reported fall in march. fracturing a rib and hitting his head, suffering a concussion.

let's go to melanie zanona. how are fellow senators reacting to what they saw? >> reporter: of course, there's initial alarm after the incident. most senators say they are not concerned about mitch mcconnell's long-term health and fulfilling his duties but some senators say maybe there should be more transparency about his health especially given that mcconnell is the top republican in the senate. all they've told the press publicly that he felt light-headed and he needed to step away for a moment. they would not say whether he plans to see a doctor and what may have caused this episode yesterday. let's take a listen to what other senators are saying. >> once you become a leader, your concern is with other constituents, at least in this case, 48 of his friends. so is that probably does call for -- i say calls for more

transparency than it were for someone else. >> 48 colleagues, what happens? >> he should tell us, whatever he tells me i'll trust to be true. >> do you think that senator mcconnell should run for leader in the new congress? >> well, i mean, the new congress is 18 months away. i'm trying to figure out how we can get the authorization bill off the floor today. >> reporter: now, that last comment you heard there was senator john thune, he's a member of the gop leadership. and he's also seen as a potential successor to mitch mcconnell whether he does step aside. so this latest health incident now raising new questions about mitch mcconnell's future. he is 81 years old. he will be up for re-election again in but so far mitch mcclaunl slotting down any questions or notions he'll step aside in the near future. >> mel 19 zanona, thanks so

much. >> after month of sprawling protests israeli lawmakers approved a sweeping measure that overhauls the judiciary there, limits the authority of the supreme court in government matters. the widely controversial reforms pushed through by prime minister benjamin netanyahu. cnn's wolf blitzer sat down with netanyahu for a one-on-one interview. >> we're not trying to weaken the supreme court. we're trying to bring balance between the three branches of government, which is the essence of democracy. and israel over the last 20, 30 years the supreme court arrogated a lot of the powers of the judiciary and executive. they can basically nullify any decision made. that doesn't happen anywhere on the planet, and so we're trying to bring it back in line. and we don't want a subservient court. we want an independent court but not an all-powerful court, and that's the corrections we're doing. i think a lot of the things that you described are -- you know,

are in the choir of people. when i spoke out against iran, the entire world -- >> there prime minister, let me interrupt with all due respect. you, of course, control the executive in israel. your coalition controls the parliament. you're weakening the supreme court. where are the checks and balances? >> well, in israel we have -- the supreme court has a lot of checks but there are no balances. for example, on the decision that we passed on reasonableness, understand what that is. it's like the court can nullify a decision, any decision by the government, by the executive by saying it's unreasonable.

not because it's illegal, not because they're using other checks they have, plenty of things they do, they can nullify. like the supreme court would be able to nullify an appointment by president biden not by saying there's a conflict of interest that exists today in israel, that there's undue process. that exists in israel. but just by saying we don't think this appointment is reasonable. that doesn't exist in america and most democracies not to this scope. and that's the minor correction we made that is now called the end of democracy. if that's the end of democracy, there are no democracies because none of them have this. >> you can see the interview with the prime minister on the situation room in a couple hours. stay with cnn news cenentral.

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right now, a judge is deciding whether michigan high school shooter ethan crumly will be sentenced as an adult for a crime he carried out when he was 15 years old. crumly pleaded guilty last year to multiple charges including four of first degree murder. if he's sentenced as an adult he'll spend the rest of his life in prison with no chance of parole. gene, prosecutors are trying to prove -- prosecute rather the now 17-year-old as an adult for a crime he committed when he was 15. >> reporter: and of course the defense wants the possibility of parole in his life. boris, we're in the prosecution's case right now. the courtroom is filled, and there are so many family members of victims, and they have that

emotion in that courtroom because of what was played today for the first time, the videotape of the actual shooting done by ethan crumbly was played in court. there's a camera in the courtroom, but that did not go out because it's just too violent. it was during the lunch hour and he's in the bathroom, putting toilet paper in his ears so his ears are shielded. he walks out with his gun and right there are a lot of students walking down the hallway. and he begins to shoot them one after the other. family members of the victims start crying. they're holding each other so tightly in court. the prosecution is crying. the emotion was so strong. they also played a videotape, only here the audio of ethan crumbly the night he carried out that shooting. take a listen. >> my name is ethan crumbly, age

15 and i'm going to be a school shooter. >> reporter: he said he researched for weeks before the shooting if michigan had the death penalty because he did not want to die. boris? >> wow. jean casarez reporting from pontiac, michigan, thanks so much. >> always sad to see the pictures of the children -- >> and the families who have to relive a lot of that in court. a lot of news we covered today. >> we did. and certainly keep covering. "the lead" with jake tapper starts right now. donald trump's lawyers seeking out the special counsel.