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there are a lot of young, dynamic people in this country that need to come into those leadership positions. so we should all question people who are not able to lead this country in the fashion that we needed to be led. the competition with china, the globalization, climate change, our education system, mental health, veteran suicides. there are so many complicated issues that we cannot have people who are confused. it is sad to say, and we should have humanity here and compassion, but at the same time we need generational change in our government. >> congressman tim ryan, thank you very much for joining me tonight. >> thank you for having. we >> thank you for joining me tonight on cnn prime time, i'm abby phillips. cnn tonight with alison camerota starts right now. >> hey abby, great to see you. good evening everyone, i'm alison camerota welcome to cnn tonight. a new charges against donald trump in the classified
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documents case, prosecutors allege that trump obstructed two of his employees, walt nauta and carlos, to delete security camera footage to -- page 29 of the superseding indictment out tonight reads, quote, the oliveira than insisted to trump employee number for that, quote, the boss wanted the server to lead it and asked what are we going to do? and, you will remember that audiotape that cnn obtained that captured donald trump apparently showing secret documents to a group of people who did not have security clearances. we now know that the special counsel knows exactly what was on that secret document. just to remind, you here is how donald trump described it then. >> these are bad, sick people. >> that was your coup. against you. >> when millions talking about -- they were trying to do that
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before you are even sworn in. you're trying to overthrow. >> with milley, let me see that, also you need to ample. he said i wanted to attack iran, isn't that amazing how. this was a. they presented me this, it's off-the-record. they presented me this. this was him, this was the defense department and him. we looked at -- this was not done by me, this was him. all sorts of stuff. let's see here. [laughter] isn't that amazing? this totally wins my case, except it is highly confidential and secret. but look at this. >> hillary would print that out all the time.
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>> she tended to anthony weiner. by the way isn't that incredible? he said that he wanted to attack iran. this was done by the military and given to me. i think we can probably -- we will have to see. as president i could have declassified it, but now i can't. isn't that interesting? it is so cool. and you probably almost didn't believe me, but now you believe me. it's incredible. bring some coax and, please? >> let's get right to cnn's zachary cohen in washington. zak, that was just amazing to hear that all again. so tell us how these new charges relate to that audio.
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>> a. do relate to this audio recording that you just listen to that scene and broke a month ago that relates to in iran military attack where trump, as you heard for yourself, there was showing off to people in his office and talking about milley and the document. the document was notably absent in the first indictment, which had 31 classified documents, but today's indictment included one additional one that he had a 32. we now know that that document relates to the iran attack plan that was mentioned in that recording. look, this really does go a long way in contradicting it trump's subsequent denial that when he's talking about in the reporting that even a document at all. he's come up with various excuses saying that maybe they are press clippings, or whatever. but it's clear in this indictment that prosecutors feel they have enough to charge this document specifically as a 32nd classified document that trump willfully retain after he left office.
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>> zachary, i remember, when cnn first obtained that audio we didn't know exactly where that document was or what was on it. now do we? >> that was the big mystery in the first indictment. it was notably absent and now it appears that prosecutors have managed to get a hold of that document that was mentioned on that recording. it's not clear how they managed to do that in what form, but it is very clear that prosecutors have enough evidence to bring criminal charges related to that document specifically as they've as it as the 32nd document that trump kept after he left office. >> what about the new charges surrounding the destruction of video evidence? >> yeah, the indictment is remarkable. it lays out a detailed timeline of how trump allegedly, with these two mar-a-lago employees, sought to delete security footage from mar-a-lago, footage that we know shows two employees moving boxes, allegedly containing classified documents and them. and the indictment includes a
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new codefendant, carlos -- who is not included in the first indictment, obviously, but he is now being d with this attempted destruction of videotape at mar-a-lago. one of the most remarkable things is that after the fbi searched mar-a-lago, and there are text messages reportedly obtained, and they say it shows trump himself and these two mar-a-lago employees were talking about how trump himself who wanted the surveillance video ultimately deleted. so it is really for the first time provide evidence that trump may have been the one who ordered the surveillance video to be destroyed and that's gonna be a big question in the investigation since the very beginning. >> >> zachary, thank you for that reporting. i want to bring in elliott williams, we also have john miller, our chief law enforcement and intelligence analyst and james schultz, who is a trump white house lawyer. gentlemen, it's great to have you tonight. elliott, as though the original allegations of mishandling top secret, classified documents
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weren't enough, these are worse. these alleged attempting to alter, destroy, mutilate, and conceal evidence. am i right that legally these are? worse >> it's bad, and if you look at the timeline that is laid out in the indictment, it's after they received a grudge draft grandeur isa peña. there are notit the feds are looking for information that is at mar-a-lago. it is then at that point that they say, you know what, there is probably incriminating information on our security footage. let's work together and get it deleted. in fact, there is at least one phone call from the president to the head of maintenance, i believe, it was his role at mar-a-lago. they speak on the telephone and then there after a number of employees get together to delete security footage. it is the kind of, literally abbott and costello level of incompetence of individuals who were -- let's back up. what possesses somebody when
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there is word of a federal investigation to say, you know, what it might be a good idea for us to go through the footage of us doing incriminating acts and getting it deleted? it is senseless. >> i don't know, john. what possesses someone to delete video evidence? >> i invoke rosemary woods at this point. the 18 minutes of the nixon tapes that were deleted, this is a sailed technique that we know from history. so it is just amazing that in a case where you might be charged with obstruction of justice for hiding documents and lying about it, that you actually drill down into the very definition of obstruction of justice, which is to take multiple steps to do away with evidence that could prove cases. it is kind of remarkable. >> jim, what are donald trump's attorneys are doing tonight and thinking about tonight?
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>> look, the government's case, they had a very strong case when they brought the indictment in the first place, the case just got better. when you have facts like these with corroborating witnesses, with text messages, telephone calls, you know that is very, very strong evidence and as far as what they're thinking tonight, i have to be thinking that they are reviewing the superseding indictment and trying to come up with some strategy to limit evidence from linking its way before the jury. i'm not sure they get their. >> you can't think of any strategy that would work? >> no, i don't see any pathway, from what we know, and we know some things, but any strategy where they could limit evidence by motions to try to prevent the jury from seeing certain evidence that might have, otherwise be incriminating.
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without limiting evidence, this is a really strong case. >> elliott, here's some of the evidence that the prosecutors are starting in the indictment. all read you a quote about trump employee number four and someone trying to get him to delete this surveillance video. here it is, quote. -- told trump employee number four that the boss wanted the server deleted. trump employee number four responded that he would not kn h to do that and that he did not believe that he would have the right to do that. trump employee number four told de oliveira, who was the chief of maintenance at mar-a-lago, that de oliveira would have to reach out to another employee who is a supervisor security for trump's organization. de oliveira then insisted number for that he asked what are going to do. >> let me put on my defense attorney hat. here's how you poke holes in all of that. in order to bring that evidence in front of a jury you have to have testimony of employee number four. >> it sounds like they do.
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>> well you've got to put him in front of the jury, and that subject is being subject to being cross-examined and having the credibility poked at. do you have an ax to grind, what were you disgruntled in some way, and then you plant that seed in one jurors head. did you vote for john kerry or what other democrats, brock obama, hillary clinton, whoever might it then along the way? are you a registered democrat? all these things could be used to attack the credibility of the witness and all fair game. >> in the timeline that elliott was ordering to before, let's put it up again, ojune 24th, john, the doj emails the -- requiring all surveillance records. at 1:25 pm, trump's attorney speaks with him about the subpoena and then, two hours later, 3:44, walnatale informed that trump wants see him and then, two hours later, walt nauta changes his own travel plans ands to
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palm beach and he meets with de oliveira who is the head of maintenance and contact with the i.t. director. so is that damning evidence, in your mind? >> i think when you look at it, walt nauta is supposed to go to bedminster with donald trump and instead is dispatched back to mar-a-lago where he does two important sayings. first, he reaches out to the head of maintenance and has a series of calls and then a meeting just off the property, which is followed by going to employee number four who, in context could be the head of i.t. services for the videos kept and asked him about leading the entire server. so you'd see a chain there, but you also see something else. elliott knows far better than i do, the prosecution can hang on a witness or hang on a tape, but a good prosecution is elemental, which is, apparently, if they attempt to delete it, as it is written in the indictment, it suggests that they didn't succeed, which could mean two things.
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one, that they deleted it, so they thought, and the fbi was able to recover it from the bottom of those servers and bring it back. that has happened in many cases where they recover information that people believed they deleted. either way, the indictment described going down the tunnel, de oliveira and walt natale with flashlights, towards the storage room, putting out the cameras. it's highly suggestive that they have the videotapes. in the original indictment there is references to videotapes and boxes being moved. so any stirring all that together, the change of travel plans, going down the tunnel with a flashlights, talking to the i.t. people, asking for deletions's, and when he says i don't know how to do that, i don't have the right to do that in technical speak. you that means probably, i don't think i have the administrative rights on the system to delete the entire server, i'm going the next level up to talk to the head of
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security. so there is a lot there. >> jim, remember when president trump spoke to brett bexar about these classified documents? he referred to them as, in that audiotape that we heard, as top secret. and he spoke to bryant bear about what he was doing with them and why he was showing them to people without security clearances, so here's that moment. >> there was no document, that was a massive amount of papers and everything else, talking about iran and other things. and it may have been held up or may not have been, but it was not a document. i did have a document per se, there is nothing to declassify. these are newspaper stories, magazine stories, and articles. >> jim, do you think that that causes him trouble at trial because it is so different than what we hear on the audiotape and what the prosecutors reportedly have in their possession? >> well, they reportedly have the document now, that 32nd
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document. and there were people in the room that likely saw that document. those folks were likely interviewed and testified before the grand jury and likely corroborated that that was the document that was put before them. so it's all of that happened, it is a big problem for donald trump no doubt about it. it all comes back to the moving of the boxes, the attempted leading of the videotape. or the argument at the beginning was that i can just declassify all these documents. well, if you just declassified documents, why go to all the steps. it's certainly troubling for him, and now they actually have the document that we had been looking for at the time of the last >> on that idea to be here and say now i can declassify these but now i can. so that also seems to be problematic. are, we have much more info on this developing story. next we will speak to a watergate prosecutor about what
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>> i want trump facing new charges tonight in his mishandling of top secret documents. we have learned of a new codefendant in the case. with me now is jon sale, worked as an assistant prosecutor on a legal team investigating watergate. john is also the former assistant u.s. attorney in the southern district of new york. john, it's great to see you. so john, prosecutors say that donald trump asked his personal aide walt nauta and his head of maintenance oliveira to delete security camera footage at his florida home in an attempt to keep them out of the hands of investigators. you of course were a prosecutor in watergate, does any of that ring a bell? the >> one of the lessons of watergate is that the cover-up is worse than the crime. his story could've had a whole different ending. and this involves a former president.
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that is what makes it different. but the issues here are, we face them every day, those of us in this kind of a practice. you get a subpoena, the first thing we tell inclined is we don't always say don't delete, we say don't take every precaution cancer that there is not even an inadvertent deletion. and then gather everything, to not go around like elliot said why keystone cops go around leading every time. produce everything and if that had happened, we wouldn't be here, we wouldn't be talking about this tonight. and if there are things you stink you shouldn't produce. so the presidential records, act which doesn't apply. but if you want to say, does summit is called a lock to the drug. and you litigate that. and none of this would have happened, but here we are. and you asked if john or somebody was the trump lawyer, what would you do tonight. besides telling my hair out. i would say mister president, please do not go on television and talk about the leading servers and surveillance footage.
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talk about political stuff please, i beg. you can only make matters worse. >> we will see if he takes that. advice, john as we were just talking about, at first we are talking about mishandling of top secret documents, which is bad enough. but now things have changed to talking about destroying or trying to destroy evidence. so does that change the timeline in your mind of being able to go to trial ten months from now. it was set for may. >> it should not. the only thing it potentially could is that you have a new defendant. and a new defendant has to get counsel and they are going to come out and say hey, i haven't even been arraigned yet so i need more time to prepare. which would play into the trump delay playbook. but this new defendant, who oliveira. i don't know his name. but tomorrow he will be a household world all over the country. he is unideal cooperator. he is somebody who the government, they could use him and when they put in the
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indictment that trump said we will get you a, lawyer don't weigh about, it's something like that. third party, is what we call it. that innovates off is okay. but if he has an honest lawyer, unethical lawyer. he's going to say hey, carlos, do what is best for you. do what's best for your family. if you want to go to trial, that is your absolute right because in watergate, top aides for richard nixon went to trial, went for jail for him. but if these guys, either one of them want to cooperate. would make a strong case even stronger. the prosecution. >> john, you have a sense of why this info, which is sounding very fundamental and critical to the case was not part of the first indictment on june 8th about corruptly concealing national security info? >> well they probably didn't have enough information to charge carlos oliveira. they were continuing the investigation. and he is the head of maintenance. my god. this is a relatively low level person. i read somewhere that he was
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parking cars a year ago. so this is somebody who they probably were reluctant to charge. they probably reached out. tim said, look if you cooperate you will have a lot less of any exposure. and they gave him a chance, they didn't. so they had no choice but to supersede and include him because he was culpable. jon sale, it's always great to get your opinion and expertise on this, thank you very much. >> thank you alison, nice to see you. >> let's bring in our guests, we are back with elliott williams, john miller and jim schultz. do you elliott think this will change the timeline. can i still go to trial on may. they can go to trial in may to begin with. that was a date the judge had put on the calendar. which is common for judges to do. i think many people, myself included would have expected would have slipped at some point. once those motions start to come in and start contesting evidence in so long i would take more time. in addition, now you have an additional defendant and more charges. this case is not going to trial and. >> okay, so how long is it
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extended by? i will not even try to predict, it's going to be a long time. i know that the big million dollar question does not happen for the 2024 election. i cannot make that prediction but the classified documents cases, while they can be brought in several months often they tend to take well more than a year to contra. >> john, in terms of preparing for the trial, the government wants donald trump and his lawyers to have to go into a secured room to talk about these highly classified top secret documents and tonight his attorneys are making the case, can't we just do at his house because it's more convenient, your thoughts on the? >> it's a little ironic, the heart of the case is that these documents were in and unprotected, unsecured environment. and they are putting their best put forward in saying that we would like to keep them in this unsecured environment and talk about them out loud in a place that has not been swept for bugs, that is not a lead lined room. these are extraordinarily high classifications, secret, no
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foreign distribution. top secret. sap special access programs. these are things that only people with the highest clearances are supposed to even see. and they can only be kept, stored or discussed in a secured environment. so the idea of kind of casting that all to the side for the sake of convenience is a little tone deaf. >> there is tremendous irony in the fact that often president attorneys, general national security people have scifs at their houses. they will build these secured facilities in the residences of people who have to handle this information. again, it is not clear that there is one at mar-a-lago. even if there is, he is a criminal defendant and it would be truly remarkable to put evidence in his hands. that's just how works. >> jim, let's talk of the other case that the special counsel jack smith is investigated. january 6th. today we understand donald trump's lawyers met with jack smith in do you have a sense of
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what they were hoping for with this meeting? >> so, we heard today. where they came out that they went in and they did not talk about facts and the law. that they went in and talked about the impact that this would have on the country. i do not think that will move jack smith one bit. and prosecutors typically when you go in and have these discussions, they do a lot of listening. no i love talking. and that is probably what happened in this instance. they were given the opportunity to make their pitch, they pitch i think indictment is comingnd soon. >> jim, one more follow-up to you. because you raised it. trump apparently, well this was in a truth social post. he says my attorneys had a productive meeting with the doj nothing wrong.xplaining i did and was advised by many lawyers and an indictment would only further destroy our country. so i understand that the destroy our country part probably will not move the special counsel but what about i was advised by many lawyers
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is that a good defense? if his lawyers told them he could keep the classified documents, would that be a good defense? >> well i think this was in the context of the january 6th case. the context of discussing the over turning of the outcome of a valid election. and discussions that were had, and information he was getting from his lawyers. and he is going to try to rely upon that. the problem is that he got a lot of information from a lot of folks. and we do not know what they have, expect that there will be a very voluminous speaking indictment here. that is going to go chapter and verse about people who had talked to him about the results of the election. the actual results of the election. and it will come into play as to whether or not he believed he had won or lost that election and whether it is reasonable he will lead to be won or lost that election. i think we can all agree it's not reasonable.
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that he would have said he won the election. but you know i think that is how that will play out. and i think that is going to be important. they will be important facts that will play out throughout the indictment. >> when you think that the luminous indictment is going to happen all? yet >> while they are scheduled i believe to be back in session on tuesday. >> and they have to be in session to handed down the indictment. >> because they have to vote on the draft indictment prosecutors provided. so as long as the grand jury's inception, they can do. it looked, the former president relieved water but we can have go indicating he was about to be charged with a crime. usually an indictment follows from that pretty soon. >> indicating he was a target. one, indicating let me be clear that he was a target. it is incredibly unlikely anyone who receives a target letter does not eventually get charged with a crime in a relatively short order. >> and an invitation to testify on his own behalf in the grand jury. without immunity. all of this spells out, we are wrapping up here, we are about to ring the bell. this is your chance to come in and tell your story.
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and it's interesting, because mr. shultz was saying, the trump defense in the manhattan d.a. case is going to be essentially stormy daniels shook me down for money. i paid her for her silence, and she broke her silence, why am i the defendant here? >> his defense in the january 6th case is going to be, i had a bunch of lawyers telling me i was on solid ground. we had people doing investigations, we brought it to dozens of courts. yes, we got thrown out of all of those courts with our court papers but on technical grounds, not our evidence. and we were doing this by the book. this just makes the documents case more important from a prosecutorial standpoint. because you have facts that are more black and white here. if you have the documents, where the classified? did you try to hide them? did you take affirmative steps to obstruct justice from people who came looking for them? it may be the lesser offense then something that led to near insurrection on the steps of the capital. but, it is the clear of the
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case. that is a margin. >> right, you can say i was a candid, i was running. this was free protected speech. there are far more legal avenues he has. for the january 6th stuff. did you possession, no you haven't or not. did you obstruct justice or not? did you notice the investigation? if you get a trial, it will take a while like i said, it's pre-straightforward. >> gentlemen, thank you very much, really appreciate all of the help with. this all, right republican senators react to the mounting charges against donald trump. what they are now saying.
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his numbers go up. >> these indictments drive more people to donald trump's side then enter the other way around. >> the strategy is to dig back as far as you can. trump upped some charges against him. it's just backfired. >> that was republican lawmakers on capitol hill today arguing that support for donald trump only grows with another potential indictment. let's discuss with cnn senior political commentator scott jennings and cnn political commentator van jones. gentlemen, it's great to have you here. those senators are not wrong if you look at the polls in terms of republican support. the latest poll out this week. it shows that in terms of republican voters, in february donald tmp support was 42%. this month it is 54%. your thoughts on that? >> well it is tribalism. in other words, i know my guy
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is wrong but you are not going to make him right. i will be with my guy regardless. so that is where we are. and i think that will be true for a while. and i think that democrats and progressive leaders have a belief that if more people would just know how bad donald trump was then they would suddenly start to be different. i think people know about he is. i think some people actually like how bad he is. some people like the anti here. they like the robe, they like the lawbreaker. the rule breaker. that's who he is appealing to. obviously his only strategy is to triple down on land. that's what you are seeing. >> scott, if you were advising any of donald trump's competitors. the republican competitors, what do you tell them to lean into this or to avoid it? >> it may not matter what you do. look at the polling you just cited. a little over half of the party wants to do trump again. and it would not matter whether any of his competitors said, he's being persecuted or he's
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an idiot. like it wouldn't matter. because the views are not going to impact republican voters. they're just not. i think republican voters, most of them want to defendant trump. but has that help you win a primary? it really doesn't. this is not the right question by the. way of course republicans are rallying around trump. the quick question is, what do voters who will decide the general election think about it? i think i know what independent voters think about it. i think i know what swing voters and arizona, georgia, pennsylvania, wisconsin probably think about it. we found it in the last election what they thought about it. so that is the right question. and i know why these republican senators have to say what they have to say. >> why, they were already elected were. >> because the republicans with their constituents, they are service and what they think their constituents want to hear. it's just that, look at the election results from georgia where we lost. look at the election results from pennsylvania and arizona
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where we lost. this is where the race will be decided. among non, hard-corelican voters. >> here is the general, in terms of a general election mahup, this is another poll this week. biden right now has 49% and trump has 44%. so to your point i suppose. >> i think donald trump is making a bet, when i travel slump scenario. three slumps could be trump. the first slump would be, because these numbers are where they are but they will be different. if there is an economic slump next year, that helps trump. if there is a real serious health or performance slump from biden, that is really undeniable, that helps trump. and then that could lead to a turnout slum for democrats. democrats are never going to vote for trump, they might be so discouraged by about economy and political form president they don't come out to vote. so a triple slump scenario, he would then wind up with trump and he could say none of this stuff matters. if it comes down to what some
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district attorney or federal prosecutor says about me, maybe i lose. but i think if you are donald trump, he's going to say that's not going to matter as much as the economy and the bad things i can say about joe biden. >> back to the country when, the other thing going on with him and i know you are going to say that this is crazy but let me just tell you what the average republican is looking at this week. one day the department of justice shows up in a courtroom and tries to get blanket media today to hunter biden, the president son and chief ravel of the white house. and next today shopping continue to pile on donald trump. i recognize that there is no real linkage between these cases but in the minds of the average republican or trump supporter, they see doj going soft on biden and hard on trump and in rages them. >> i'm interested in, this i do want to talk about this. want to hear your thoughts on this in the second. hold your thought, we'll be right back we have a lot to talk about.
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>> i am back with scott jennings and van jones. hunter biden. so scott was just making the point that basically it is to tears of justice because hunter biden seems to be getting a sweetheart deal and now donald trump is not. is that how you see it then? >> i don't see it that way. but here is what i know. i know that when somebody is on your team. and they get in trouble. you may have heard of oj simpson. okay? there is a tendency to start rallying around even the most
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nefarious horrible people. >> i understand it's travel. but do you think that there was something fishy with the hunter biden deal? with the doj, and his defense getting blanket immunity but donald trump is not. republicans feel very strongly. i'll let the republican speak for republicans. but here's what i know. if you are a little bit richer and a little bit more famous, maybe a little bit paler, you do get better treatment from prosecutors. that is just the facts. so did hunter biden get a better deal than the average person going through the federal court system? he did get a better deal. but did he get a deal that is commiserate with what he did? a gun charge, that he didn't use. first time offense. you should get diversion from the. that's one. >> i think scott is saying he's getting a better deal than donald trump. >> look, i think all cases should be judged on their own merit. but in this particular case, if you knowingly to pay millions
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of dollars in taxes on income that you derived from peddling your father's name to oversee actors. do you believe he would be sitting here tonight or somewhere else? >> i understand, but can't you say if you had hundreds of top secret classified documents at your house and you refuse to give them, back you'd be sitting here tonight or somewhere else? can't use that same setup for donald trump? >> that is the problem we have. i think there are republicans who legitimately would say, there is a two tiered system of justice. there is. donald trump is the beneficiary of. that because of ilhan omar had 6 to 10,000 muslims on joint session of congress, should be under guantánamo right now. so the fact only trump is wandering around this earth, having done what he does is proof. that yes, there is two years. but he's benefiting from, it is not being persecuted by. >> if-mile-an-hour, biden yeah, i guess i would be sitting. because they did get. look, i'm giving you a window
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into how the average republican is reading this news. and saying wait a minute, the doj does not appear to care about joe biden's documents. they appear to think it's okay. >> he gave them. back >> i don't go too far down the rabbit hole. i appreciate you articulating because i have heard so many republicans say that. drawing that equivalence. >> none of this is what makes donald trump is doing okay. i mean this is weapons grade buffoon every. if you read the indictment what they're doing, it doesn't make any of it okay. but you can see how a reasonable person might look at the whole thing and go. okay, it seems weird to me. >> thank you gentlemen, it's great to see you. all right, meanwhile lebron james's son suffered cardiac arrest earlier this week. we have an update on his condition next. what
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from the hospital toy ter suffering cardiac arrest during basketball practice on monday. and, statement doctor said quote that they are hopeful for his continued progress and are encouraged by his response. earlier today, lebron james tweeted about his son saying in part, i want to ank the countless people sending my family love and prayers. we feel, you and i am so grateful everyone is doing great. let us bring in cnn medical analyst. dr. reiner. it's always great to see. alarming to hear doctors say that bronny james had recently, a couple months ago had a cardiac screening and ekg and they'll come back with normal results. what do you think this happened? >> well it's hard to know. the specific cardiac screening that bronny james had a few months ago included echo cardiogram. which is really designed to identify the most common cause of cardiac arrest in athletes
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which is called hypo traffic cardiomyopathy. a thickening of the heart muscle. but that only accounts for 40% of the cardiac arrests in young athletes. like brawny. so this means there's still a big basket of potential causes including primary cardiac arrhythmias. things like long cutie syndrome. and much of that still has yet to be eased out. do >> you think he'll be able to play basketball? >> it's hard to know without knowing the specifics cause of the event. most of the ideologies for cardiac arrest in young athletes are lifelong problems unlike the event that damar hamlin had, which was a one-off traumatic injury to the chest resulting in the north mia, these other kinds of abnormalities that cause sudden cardiac arrest are lifelong problems. the risk will continue. so it's hard to know.
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right now i think the best news for bronny james is that he was resuscitated very quickly. he left the hospital and really rocky fast time is apparently feeling well. so he should do well going forward. i would place his basketball career in far second place to that. so i hope he can play but i am glad that he is alive. >> how will they monitor him now? >> well there are various tests one can do to determine his risk going forward. first, there are genetic tests that can be performed. there are implantable heart rhythm monitors that can detect in what if he is having abnormalities. we don't know if it happened. leaving the hospital in three days, i doubt he was fitted
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with one of those. and it would be hard to play in the nba with a implanted different religion but the details will arise and sorted out in the coming weeks about what happened to him and what to do going forward. >> dr. jonathan, reiner thank you for being with us tonight. >> my pleasure. >> thank story for watching cnn, today our coverage continues now. and road-test evaluations... and the results are inin. subaru is the 2023 best mainststream automotive brand, according to consumer reports. and subaru has seven consumer reports recommended models. outback, forester, solterra, crosstrek, ascent, impreza, and legacy. it's easy to love a brand you can trust. it's easy to love a subaru. with the freestyle libre 2 system know your glucose level and where it's headed without fingersticks. manage your diabetes with more confidence and lower yo a1c.
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