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judgmental in this particular instance. but just to say, whether it is senator feinstein, or mitch mcconnell, we need generational change. and there are a lot of young, dynamic people in this country that need to come into those leadership additions. and so, we should all question people who are not able to lead this country in the fashion that we needed to be led in. the competition with china, globalization, climate change, our education system, mental health, veteran suicide -- there's so many complicated. issues we can't have people that are confused. and it's sad to say, we should have some humanity here and some compassion.
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>> with milley -- let me see that. i will show you an example. he said that i wanted to attack -- isn't it amazing -- a big pile of -- this was him. they presented me -- this is off the record. this was him. this was the defense department and him. and this was him this was -- all sorts of stuff. paige is wrong. -- let's see here. >> yeah -- >> i just felt -- isn't that amazing? this totally wins my case, you know? except it is highly --
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>> [laughter] -- >> this is secretive. but look at this. >> hillary would print that out all the time. and -- anthony weiner. the pervert -- by the way, isn't that incredible? >> yeah. >> i was just saying -- he wanted to attack iran. he said -- this once done by the military and given to me. i think we can probably -- try to -- >> try to de-figure -- >> -- now i
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>> then she broke her silence, why am i the defendant here? is defense in the january 6th case is going to be, i had a bunch of lawyers telling me i was on solid ground, we had people doing investigations, we brought it to dozens of courts, yes, we got thrown out of all of those courts without court papers but on technical grounds, not on evidence. we were doing this by the book. because you have facts that are more black and white, here. did you have the documents, were they classified?
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did you try to hide them? did you take affirmative steps to obstruct justice when people came looking for them? it may be the lesser offense than something that led to near insurrection on the steps of the capitol, but it is the clearer of the cases. >> he can say that i was the candidate, i was running, free, protected speech, there are four more legal avenues he has for the january 6th stuff, did you possess it and know you have it can did you obstruct justice, did you know there was an investigation, if you get it to trial, it'll take a while, it's pretty straightforward. >> thank you very much, really appreciate the help with this. republican senators react to the mounting charges against donald trump, what they're saying now.
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>> i actually think that these indictments drive more people to donald trump's side then they do the other way around. >> the strategy to dig back as far as you can and trumped up charges against him is just backfiring. >> that the public and lawmakers on capitol hill today arguing that the work for donald trump only grows with another potential indictment. let's discuss with cnn senior political commentator scott jennings and in and political commentator dan judge. great to have you here. , though senators are not wrong if you look at the polls in terms of republican support. the latest quinnipiac poll out this week, out this week, it shows that in terms of republican voters in debray,
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donald trump's support was 42%, this month it's 54%. your thoughts on that? >> it's tribalism. in other words, i know my guy is wrong, but you're not going to make him right. i'll be with my guy against your guy, regardless. that's where we are, and i think that that's going to be true for a while. i think that democrats and progressives have this belief, if more people just knew how bad donald trump was, then they'd suddenly start acting really. i think people know how bad he is, some people like how bad he is, some people like the antihero, they like the rogue, the lawbreaker, the rule breaker. and obviously, that's his only strategy is to dribble down, and that's what you're seeing. >> scott, if you were advising any of donald trump's competitors, republican competitors, would you tell them to lean into this or avoided?
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>> it may not matter what you do. look at the polling you just cited. over a little half of the party wants to do trump again, and it wouldn't matter whether any of his competitors said he's being persecuted, or he's an idiot. it wouldn't matter, because their views are not going to impact republican voters. they're just not. republican voters, most of them, want them to defend drunk, but how does that help you when a primary mark it doesn't. this is not the right question, of course republicans are rallying around trump your the correct question is what do voters who decide the general election think about it, i think i know what independent voters think about it, i know what swing voters and arizona, georgia, pennsylvania, wisconsin probably think about it here we found out in the last election what they thought about it. that's the right question, and i know why republican senators have to say what they have to say, >> they are already elected. >> these republicans, with
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their constituents, they're servicing what they think their constituents want to hear. it's just that, look at the election results from georgia, where we lost, look at the election results from pennsylvania and arizona, this is where the race is going to be decided here among non-hard- core republican ters. >> in terms of a general election matchup is another quinnipiac poll, shows biden right now has 49% and drum has 44%. to your point, i suppose. >> i think that donald trump, making of that, is a triple slump scenario, a three slump gives you trump your the first slump would be, these numbers are the way they are but they will be different tomorrow and the next day. there's an economic slump next year, that helps trump. if there's a serious health or performance slump from biden, it's undeniable, that helps trump. that could lead to a turnout slump for democrats.
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democrats may be so discouraged by a bad economy and a poorly performing president that they don't come out to vote. in a triple slump scenario, you wind up with trump, then he could say, none of that stuff matters. if it comes down to what the district attorney or federal prosecutors said about me, maybe i lose, but i think, if you're donald trump, i think that's not going to matter as much as the economy, and the bad things i can point out about joe biden. back to the republicans for one moment, the other thing that's going on with them, i know you're going to say this is crazy, but let me tell you what the average republican is looking at this week. one day, the department of justice shows up in a courtroom and tries to give blanket immunity to hunter biden, the president son and that chief rival of donald trump in the white house, the next day to continue to pile on donald trump. i recognize there is no real linkage between these cases, but in the minds of the african average republican or trump supporter, they see doj going soft on biden and hard on trump
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back with scott jennings and dan jones. hunter biden. scott was just making the point that basically, it two tiers of justice, because hunter biden seems to be getting a sweetheart deal, now donald trump is not. is that how you see it, dan? >> i don't see it that way, but here's what i know. i know that when somebody is on your team, and they get in trouble, you may have heard of o.j. simpson. [ laughing ] tennessee rallied around even the most terrible
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people. >> but do you think there was something fishy with the hunter biden deal, with the doj, and his defense, he was going to get blanket immunity, but donald trump is not. you know republicans feel that way very strongly. >> i'll let the republicans a speak for the republicans. here's what i know. if you are a little bit richer and a little bit more famous and maybe a little bit paler, you did get better treatment from prosecutors. that's just the facts. so, did hunter biden get a better deal than the average person going to the federal court system? he did get a better deal. but did he get a deal that is commensurate with what he did? a gun charge that he didn't use, first-time offense, he should get diversion for that. >> i think they were discussing it is getting a better deal than donald trump. >> all cases should be judged on their own merit. in this particular case, if you knowingly failed to pay millions of dollars in taxes on
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income that you derived from peddling your father's name to overseas actors, if you believe you would be sitting here tonight, or somewhere else? >> if you had hundreds of top secret classified document at your house that you are refusing to give back would you be sitting here tonight or somewhere else? can we use that same set up? >> and that's the problem that we have, is there are republicans who genuinely will say there's a two tier system of justice. there is. and donald trump is the beneficiary of that, because if ilhan omar had sent 10 million muslims on a joint session of congress, she be undergoing guantanamo right now. the fact that donald trump is wondering around is proof, yes, there's two tiers, but he's benefiting from it, he's not being persecuted by it. >> if my last name were biden, i'm, i'm getting you a window into how the average republican is reading this news.
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>> i get it. >> the doj doesn't care appear to care about joe biden's documents, >> he gave them back. but i don't want to go too far down the rabbit hole. i appreciate you articulating, because i've heard so many republicans say that, >> none of this makes what donald trump is doing okay. this is weapons grade buffoonery, if you read his indictment, what they're doing, it doesn't make any of it okay, but you can see how a reasonable person might look at the whole thing and go, okay, this seems weird to me. >> thank you, gentlemen, great to see you. meanwhile, lebron james son suffered cardiac arrest earlier this week that we have an update on his condition, next.
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ronnie james was released from the hospital today after suffering cardiac arrest during basketball practice on monday. in a statement, doctors say that they are hopeful for his continued progress, and are encouraged by his response. earlier today, lebron james tweeted about his son, saying in part, i want to thank the countless people sending my family love and prayers. we feel you, and i'm so grateful. everyone is doing great. let's bring in dr. jonathan reinert, always great to see you. it is alarming to hear doctors say that ronnie james had recently, a couple months ago, had a cardiac screening and an ekg and they both came back with normal results. why do you think this happened to him? >> it's hard to know. the specific cardiac screening that he had a few months ago, including an echocardiogram, was designed to identify the most common cause of cardiac arrest in athletes, called
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hypertrophic cardiomyopathy, a thickening of the heart muscle. that only accounts for 40% of the cardiac arrests in young athletes. so, there's still a big basket of potential causes, including primary cardiac arrhythmia, things like long qt syndrome, and much of that still has yet to be teased out. >> do you think you'll be able to play basketball? >> it's really hard to know without knowing the specific cause of the event. most of these ideologies for cardiac arrest in young athletes are lifelong problems. unlikely event that demar hamlin had, which was a one-off traumatic injury to the chest, resulting in arrhythmia. these other kinds of abnormalities that cause sudden cardiac arrest are lifelong problems. and the risk will continue. so, it's hard to know.
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right now, i think the best news for bronny james is that he was resuscitated very quickly, he left the hospital in rocket fast time, three days, and apparently is feeling well. he should do well going forward, i placed his basketball career in bar second place to that. i hope he can play, but i'm glad that he's alive. >> how are they going to monitor him, now? >> there are various tests that one can do to determine his risk going forward, first of all, there are genetic tests that can be performed, there are implantable heart rhythm monitors that can detect, in real time, whether he is having any abnormalities. many people who survive a cardiac arrest will have an implantable defibrillator plate, we don't know whether that happened, leaving the hospital in three days, i doubt he was fitted with one of
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those. and it would be superhard to play in the nba with an implanted defibrillator. but, the details will be sorted out in the coming weeks, about what happened to him, and what they could do going forward. >> thanks so much for being with us tonight. >> my pleasure. >> thanks to all of you for watching cnn tonight. our coverage continues, now. te control of your symptoms - with vraylar. some medicines only treat the lows or highs. vraylar treats depressive, acute manic, and mixed episodes of bipolar 1 in adults. proven, full-spectrum relief for all bipolar 1 symptoms. and in vraylar clinical studies, most saw no substantial impact on weight. elderly dementia patients have increased risk of death or stroke. call your doctor about unusual changes in behavior or suicidal thoughts. antidepressants can increase these in children and young adults. report fever, stiff muscles or confusion which may mean a life-threatening reaction,
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